Ukraine: The Avoidable War
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NATO Expansion
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www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-...
The Far Right
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"what did biden know 25 years ago that he doesn't know now?"
well basically everything
"what did biden know 25 years ago that he doesn't know now?" How to speak English
reports say he just finished relearning his abc's for the fifth time
"I was SUGGESTING that we bomb belgrade!" he knew that i guess.
@@stepinside6579 new update- he can't move properly anymore
@@ali1774 I think he won't be learning his vowels anytime soon
Or anytime at all
As a pole I am sure there is a reason why eastern europe like baltic states or Poland joined NATO and for some even more mysterious reason why it is because of russia.
yeah but hes a huge tankie so ofc he simps for putin (a far right autocrat) lmao.
Nnaaaaaah dude, have you considered america bad? None of those countries have any autonomy because uuuuhh.. muh western imperialism and stuff. Poor little Russia was forced into this position, obviously.
@@kite9629
Moldova: "Oh boy I sure do hope to be a flourishing democracy some day'
Russia: "Oh would you look at that! You now have a permanent separatist enclave, what a shame..."
And as we all know, Moldova was a very SPOOKY AND SCARY threat to Russia 🤭
So eastern imperialism is better????????? Learn a little more about how our friendly Russian liberators amended the first Polish constitution in Stalin's office. In 1999, we decided to join this terrible Western imperialism. The US is a superpower and it is understandable that it wants to maintain power in NATO to prevent its collapse. But it's the governments job to figure it out. As a person living in my country, I am happy that I am not in the Russian sphere of influence because my parents and grandparents remember how terrible it was.@@kite9629
yeah, i watched this to get a take on these guys and man the misrepresentation of history is fucking palpable.
Yes, expanding NATO was provoking towards Russia but the world is more than just the US and Russia. Maybe put into consideration the smaller Eastern European countries who had to suffer through decades of Russian oppression and exploitation and ask them if they’d rather be safe from that or not because of „politics“. The idea that few big countries make all the descisions and don’t even ask the smaller countries that are affected is wrong, whoever does it, China, Russia or the US but if a country like Estonia just wants to be safe from its unpredictable and potentially dangerous neighbor, their safety is more important than appeasing Russia.
American imperialism doesn't care how many die.
i'm a leftist myself, but i can't understand other leftists that are so eager to attack america, but look for every excuse in the book to not make when russia or china, or any american rival does the same exact thing
Eastern European countries that had to suffer decades of Russian oppression and exploitation? The Russian Empire existed a long time ago way before socialism liberated the people, albeit temporarily, since it was overthrown by the same fascists that are invading Ukraine today, but this invasion was inevitable since Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.
@@user-ze1ej5zb6z You mean the Russian empire that first conquered all these independent countries and established a terrible racist oppressive absolute monarchy?
You mean the socialism that "liberated" the newly independent states from things like democracy or self determination? That killed 12-20 Million political enemies (twice the amount of jews killed by the Nazis (equally horrible but shows the scale))?
And lastly, capitalism doesn't have a lot to do with the stuff russia is doing. It's just the same cycle of violence, authoritarianism and internal racism against non-russians (like Chechens for example) that was already present under the Zar and that has plagued russia for most of its existence. Russia has always been imperialistic: under the Zars, who conquered and oppressed other people, under the soviets who did pretty much the same but had some socialism going on and now under the fallen democracy that has morphed into an authoritarian dictatorship.
@@user-ze1ej5zb6zEven if (very big if) we grant that the Soviet Union was not a continuation of the Russian Empire, would it not still be reasonable for Poles, Lithuanians, Estonians and Latvians to be worried about a resurging Russia, with similar geopolitical imperatives to the tzardom of old? There's a lot of criticisms to be made of NATO, but one I've never heard before is that it oppresses its own members the way the empire did.
To be fair, the image of the sending the KKK to Afghanistan, not with any actual armaments, just sending them to get slaughtered by the thousands by the Taliban, is pretty hilarious.
I’d much rather they did that then gave them the vote and a red hat
its gonna be like that scene in Django Unchained
bro why AREN'T they sending the kkk to afghanistan now that i think about it
Should be sending antifa and blm as well!
@@lukemurphy7917 in the first 90 seconds of this video, you will see 2 clips of your president directly and totally contradicting himself. "a vote and a red hat", you're rather psychotically comparing people who had concerns over that kind of behavior to an organized lynch mob. if the united states has a problem with "toxic" people who can't be trusted to live in normal society without causing problems, you're at the top of the list. from what i understand, you're also on the side of that argument that doesn't own guns or join the military.
I think the sponsor-thing is a great idea. The only thing is that they track how much their product sells through your channel (via the special links that is) and if we don't buy it, the company stops sponsoring you. So long term I don't know how well it'll work, but this sounds pretty funny!
Crappy Mobile games like Cassino legends does not care aboth that
just clicking the links up their numbers so we might just need to click the link and then fuck off
I wonder if they truly track sponsorships by how many sales they make, or if they take their data from some other indicator, such as the number of clicks they get, or how many people put in a code, etc. Maybe we could fool them by, for example putting in all of the information, confirming it, and then cancelling the order just before submitting. Or, if they offer refunds, maybe they would be fooled by making lots of sales which immediately get refunded. I have no idea how it's actually tracked, and I'm sure that either way, they would catch on eventually. I'm just throwing ideas out there.
@@MichaelDavis-zu2ko I'm pretty sure they have analytics enabled to figure that out, but the most important metric is the amount of people that actually pushed through with payment
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I wonder why every nation in the Warsaw Pact except for Russia wanted to join NATO, to the point that Poland blackmailed the Democrat party to do so.
Russia wanted to join NATO too
@@Boy_Boy Russia never formally applied to join NATO, the closest you can get to a formal application is a verbal agreement between The US and the USSR (Not Russia) - which is irrelevant as not only does the USSR no longer exist but a single member can not negotiate on NATO’s behalf - and an expression of interest in 2000.
Even if Russia did formally apply in 2000, it would’ve required several ex-Warsaw Pact nations to agree on it (fat chance) and also a majority of Russia’s population to vote on entry (unlikely).
Again, there’s a reason all of the ex-Warsaw pact countries aswell as the Baltic States were desperate to join NATO and made it a foreign policy objective of theirs.
the leftist takes on russia-ukraine are killing its credibility. please learn about it. if you need to i have provided the content in youtube video form so that you may be able to digest it czcams.com/video/7OFyn_KSy80/video.html@@Boy_Boy
Nice, you believe Tucker too? Russia never applied to join NATO.@@Boy_Boy
@@Boy_Boy You're only excusing Putin's justifications for invading countries of the former USSR because admitting that Russia's actions were inexcusable would force you to admit that your home country Serbia's actions against former members of Yugoslavia were also inexcusable, which would justify NATO's 1999 intervention that shaped your entire childhood worldview and sense of identity.
I sympathise that it sucks to be caught on the receiving end of a US led bombing campaign but allowing your childhood trauma to dictate your victim blaming onto the Ukrainians for having the Russians invade them just because they wanted to join the rest of Europe in peace and prosperity is a REALLY bad take and one that helps nobody, not least yourself. Even the Russians here in the comment section are calling you out ffs.
"a drunk guy called Boris" is the funniest thing ever said in a geopolitical analysis of the war-profit machine.
Life of Boris Boris or ...?
@@xanmontes8715though I love life of Boris, his gaming and cooking videos are great, this is not the same boris, this video is talking about Boris Yeltson
Could also be boris johnson
@@xanmontes8715 yeees Boris, **plays cheeki breeki hardbass**
Not much about this video is a geopolitical analysis, he is clearly biased and therefore skipping important parts and blowing up others that actually have less relevance but fit his narrative. Watch actual political scientists if you want a genuine geopolitical analysis
A large amount of the comments I saw were about the sponsors not the actual video which feels odd.
Agreed
Yeah, I find this weird too. Botted?
@@ErikUden maybe, I mean you’d expect a video like this to have politically split comments everywhere
@@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw I mean, it does, but I've also noticed the disproportionately large amount of people talking about the sponsor.
I haven't watched the self-promotion section of the video, because I have CZcams Vanced, a free CZcams app that skips all ads, even inside of Videos, so I didn't see it. Maybe they asked a question in there so that people would answer to it?
Seriously, all the comments are either critical comments with about 10 likes or comments talking about sponsors with about 3000 likes. wtf
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That's crazy how eastern Europe was invaded by NATO. Oh? What's that? They begged and fought to be in NATO? huh. I WONDER WHY
Putin is NATOs best salesman
@@jakereynolds8897 For real
I’m sick of this as an argument by people who are otherwise reasonably intelligent. Blaming NATO or simply saying Ukraine should agree to never join them or the EU is the equivalent of Australia leaving the ANZUS treaty because it upsets China or Indonesia. Russia has no right to govern Ukraines foreign policy and it’s a weak and ignorant excuse.
Russia is literally cucked in the 90s and Putin even fucking wanted to join Nato in the very early 2000s.
Russia is still being slightly antagonized after the collapse of the USSR. Imagine if Nato allow Russia to join Nato when Putin asked for it.
Ukraine wouldn't be shit fest and Putin will still be a pro west mf.
NATO membership for Ukraine can only work as a cover to give the far right loons permanent control over the foreign policy there, just as it has in Poland, the Baltics and now Finland.
At the end of the cold war we had a chance to trade the US for a much weaker, more cooperative and more economically valuable partner in Russia. It would have helped Russia democratise too. Instead we're left tied to the sinking ship of that grotesque US empire and Russia is stuck as a fortified, paranoid tyrrany.
NATO's continued existence past 1991 is absolutely the most to blame for this.
As Ukrainian, I just want to say that. We are free people who want to live in a free country in peace, but how does history shows there is no peace without fighting for it, and we will fight.
Ukraine literally means border 💀.
@@tomgu2285Tom literally means twin 💀
Whats your point?
@@tomgu2285 millenial leftists will immediately endorse colonialism the second they learn one stupid little factoid like this 😆
Long live independent free and democratic Ukraine. Free Syrians are with you. Fck Russia and Putler.
Dude... the most likely (99% chance) outcome of the conflict in the Ukraine is that one half will be owned by US/EU corporations and the other half by Moscow. Before you were ruled by awful oligarchs. The fighting over there is not noble and "for freedom", it's an unnecessary tragedy that could have been avoided.
I watched that 1997 Biden speech, and he seemed to be arguing for the expansion of NATO throughout. Prior to the clip he says "the prospects for [NATO expansion into] the Baltics are real, but more distant." And immediately after the clip you played he says "I believe time, time meaning the next several years, will solve this. The degree to which Russia becomes comfortable with, and it is demonstrated that, expanding NATO is beneficial to their stability... Meaning within this century or early in the next, the Baltics will be admitted into NATO."
I'm not saying NATO and the US demonstrated this at all, but I think leaving the rest of this quote out is a bit misleading.
This video is unfortunately rife with statements out of context. Given the pacing it almost reads as Russian propaganda, if not for careful consideration of the arguments
@@zacablaster I wondered how long that lazy characterisation would take to be used.
@@TalynStormcrow No I agree with that, much of the video does feel exhaustingly pro-Russian. I fact checked a LOT of what they said. They didn't outright lie anywhere, but they certainly misrepresented a lot in the dime way they misrepresented this Biden quote.
For example: they grossly over-represented the power that any nazi party had in Ukraine, among many other simplifications or places where the facts were left out.
I mean, the whole video is misleading and ignores a lot of stuff that happened, the order in which it happened, how much time passed between when each thing happened, and details about why each thing happened. Then it implies that the United States has been spending the past three decades carefully maneuvering Russia to make it invade Ukraine for the enrichment of the US somehow... when the Russian invasion is very much bad for US interests. There's a lot of deliberate misinformation and there's a lot of ascribing malice to that which would be better explained by incompetence.
@@gamera5160 absolutely. Your take is the most based so far, anyone who would ignore the impact of Russian meddling on western democracy is an asshat. Sure, on the face of things, it would seem like the US wanted any of this to happen because they made a shit load of money. But the US does not like humanitarian crises, they are very bad for business. There was much more money to be made, but the Russian people could not handle a fair trade society and it collapsed. Anybody who blames the US for stopping evil with a gun™ is basically just as culpable as the asshat. You have a better policy that will accomplish your goals and not kill civilians? Why haven't I ever heard of you, or it, before?
The ultimate irony here is Australians, who share America's geographic security but not its resource riches making thier case for what a larger, more powerful nation should do. Cool take, fortunately we don't need to listen to you because you don't have any ability to enforce yourself globally. Don't even have the economic capacity to engage in tacit discontent. Maybe if Aussies weren't owned by China we would hear a different story, but they aren't and we don't.
well the thing is that NATO and Russia never signed anything to clarify NATO wont expand but the thing is that Ex Soviet and Warsaw pact nations wanted to join NATO because they knew that they are not safe with Russia
This is a big lie. The political campaigns to join NATO were sponsored by arms industry lobby groups, who were looking to profit from converting Eastern European armies to NATO equipment. This is well documented in Western media.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Come on, do you really think it would be just that simple? I'm sure that what you're describing was a relevant factor, but far from the only reason. russia's actions towards its neighbours, namely Georgia, probably played a really big role in it too.
russia messes with its neighbours, if it can get away with doing so. Joining NATO is, clearly, a really good way to make sure russia does not mess with you. It's a means to an end for most of the smaller countries bordering russia.
ps. the 70% of people wanted the USSR back was total BS, only the Russian boomers wanted it back but most of the post soviet states are happy being a free country
And when they join the other side, they’ll find that the other guy somehow cares even less about you and they just want for your position and resources. It really sucks to be a Ukrainian, they’re basically stuck between joining imperialist exploitative piece of shit alliance number one and imperialist exploitative piece of shit alliance number two.
@@GotYa the OSCE and UN concluded that Georgia was the aggressor in South Ossetia. You were also lied to about that conflict.
I think one important thing to note about the Euromaidan protests that ultimately led to Yanukovych getting removed from office is the fact that the thing that really triggered them was that Yanukovych had allowed russia to pressure him into refusing to sign an agreement between Ukraine and the EU (the agreement was purely diplomatic and economic in nature, mind you, and the EU is not NATO, so this doesn't have anything to do with a NATO expansion), even though that agreement had already received the support of a majority of the ukrainian parliament.
So, it's not exactly surprising that the protests against a head of state choosing to bow to russian demands rather than to the will of the people took a bit of an anti-russian turn, after all that country had actively taken measures to undermine the democratic process.
This take is bullshit propaganda. It was the EU who was pressuring the Ukrainian government into signing the EU "association agreement" under horrifically catastrophic and lopsided terms that didn't even give them full EU membership or any of the main benefits thereof but would have required them to implement far reaching neoliberal "reforms" like privatize vast swathes of their remaining publicly owned enterprises, infrastructure, and agricultural land, gut their funding for social services, kneecap the labor unions, and most crucially to cut virtually all of their extensive trade relations with Russia and become an exclusive economic vassal of the US and EU, all of which would have destroyed Ukraine's economy and further impoverished the vast majority of its population just like the same neoliberal economic policies have done in the US and all of its other satellite states around the world. Russia's proposed trade agreement had no such strings attached, and when EU negotiators introduced these new demands the choice became obvious for anyone whose brain hadn't been rotted by ultra-nationalist and Western neoliberal propaganda. Russia's government had previously even supported the EU association agreement plans for Ukraine because it would have helped both countries before it became obvious that it was just intended to drive a wedge between Ukraine and Russia for the sake of Western economic and geopolitical interests.
Especially when you consider that russia poisend presidential canidates
@@sticy5399You need to learn English before writing lies!
The original agreement of the 1991 was for the Ukraine not joining NATO. There was no EU then so if there was EU the same would had been concerning that. The agreement of 1991 had to bee followed by Ukraine because the majority of the territories before the Ukrainian Soviet Republic has been announced had belonged to Russia. So, who was trying to break the agreement - Russia or Ukraine?
Part of the issue was that the European Association Agreement (the one in question here) had reduced tariffs as one of its terms. This would allow Ukraine access to Western goods for a reduced price in exchange for Ukrainian resources.
That's all well and good. The issue arises when you consider that Russia and Ukraine already had such an agreement in place.
So if Ukraine joins both, Russia's domestic market could be undercut by a flood of cheap European goods coming through Ukraine.
Ukraine could not be party to both treaties without complications. Hence the political-economic pressure.
Russia ultimately offered the better deal short term, hence Yanukovich's backing out.
Generally the war can be characterized by russia choosing to rather attack and invade a country rather than letting it slip from his influence. Countries freely making a decision not to align with russia, or even just thinking about it, is not grounds for invasion. This is not a shades of grey situation. Lots of countries have done shady shit, the US is way up there with the shadiest of them, those actions in no way justify or diminish the horrific actions of russia.
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Exactly, I'm a bit disappointed in the one-sided take of the video. Refreshing to see some points, quotes etc not seen in more Ukraine-positive coverage, sure, but so many conclusions with a clear lack of evidence. Ukraine has neo-nazis gets blown up to really support the Russian narrative of them being full-on nazis - though it is a point that has yet to really be fully cleared up as they did make a battalion out of it with obvious nazi symbolism...
Dead wrong, its not about influence its about Russias security and future. If Russia does not intervene Ukraine commits genocide in Donetsk region killing all the ethnic Russians there. Ukraine blows up Crimean bridge and takes Crimea cause Russia no longer has land connection to it and cant supply the region. After Ukraine invites US fleet in place of Russia's Black Sea Fleet. Aaaand then you orchestrate coup d'etat in Belarus, and hell even take some Russian territory, Zelensky just signed a document with "historic lands that belong to Ukraine" listing there Russian border regions.
you're over simplifying it. there are many Russians living there and people who choose Russia over EU in the east of the country. It began as a civil war before Russia invaded
@@VEKSTBARABANCHIK A civil war that got initiated by very Ukrainian people like Igor Girkin who had the very ukrainian job of being a FSB-Agent.
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@@aaronwilson9261 I'd actually love to see a sponsorship for a hardcore doomsday prep shop
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Also I wonder why half the comments are talking about the sponsorship/patron issue which constitutes less than 5 minutes of the video rather than what the topic the video us made on
because that is what he asked us for our thoughts about
I have a strong feeling that they are deleting comments. We all know that there are a lot of ppl who can't wait to share their political views on even videos that have nothing to do with politics but suddenly when there's a whole video on it, they're nowhere to be found...weird.
It’s almost like he’s deleting negative comments that call him out on being a Russian propagandist…
@@matthewharper866 I'm sorry, what?
@@matthewharper866 It's almost like you're a casual conspiracy theorist 'murican who thinks everything is pro-russian and shit if they're not with you.
This war is incredibly preventable; putin could've not of done it
Why was most of the former eastern block so hellbent on joining NATO? Talvisota.....
Apparently it's because NATO pressured them, and not because they have a militaristic imperialist neighbor that doesn't respect country's borders.
@@zacharychristy8928 The same reason my country joined the EU. Pressured into it, people couldn't vote on that either. Bum fucked so they have more nations to control and steal from. Keeping us poor is their main objective so they can control us. And now we couldn't vote on taking the Euro in instead of our own currency. No one wants it but "democracy" didn't let us vote and we will be fucked in 2024 onwards.
they wanted handouts from the USA
They're next to the United States?@@zacharychristy8928
Almost like centuries of living under russian rule has taught them a thing or two about their "brotherly" neighbor.
Fun fact, the Putin boyfriend song is actually a satire. And it continues soaring above heads-from east to west-to this day.
@@goluboi_tramwhychiksadly it is
@@moma8518 okay, it is, I forgot what "satire" means 😭
@@goluboi_tramwhychik Satire was banned by North Korea, it no longer exists. Just saw it on one of their previous videos
Robocop used to be satire
@@Parallelwurlds Robocop is so awesome. One of the few movies I consider to be basically perfect. The political subtext is even more relevant today.
I believe in that clip, Biden was actually talking about NATO expansion into the Baltics. That happened 2002-2004 and still wasn't enough to trigger an open war. Russia was actually more hesitant to respond with war than Biden's (and others') predictions.
The game of chicken just never stopped I guess.
Because back then Russia was even trying to join NATO.
Because 'NATO's expansion' it's an excuse and not a reason. Putin was preparing this invasion for years now, and would proceeded anyway, Ukraine was never really considered to be part of NATO - because everyone knows that Russia wants it for itself and so Ukraine is too risky to be included in the pact. can we stop repeating that expanding nato has anything to do with this brutal and imperialistic attack of Russia please?
@@jazy3091 why didn't he do it in say 2014-2015 then? Ukraine would not be able to put up any resistance back then. But no, he invades now, when Ukraine has been pumped full of weapons by the NATO. But nah, they are not expanding, it's not threatening at all.
@@user-pt1lv7mh5x umm, dude 2014 was actually first step of invasion. You know Russia carved large chunks of Ukraine in this year right? You know that after doing so Russia left that exact part to degrade under warlords rule. Since then Putin strengthened his worldwide propaganda, meddling in politics of so many countries, preparing for this moment. It all went so catastrophically bad for him bc he didn't take few factors into account, he truly believed he's well prepared for the invasion. Luckily he was wrong.
leaving out the countries' desire to join nato is misleading
This dude is just a Russian and Chinese asset
because that is not what the video is about. it's about Russia's point-of-view, not NATO's
@@swoqix2892 To overlook the fact that NATO membership is a threat of encroachment to Russia shows your willingness to cherry pick and lack of knowledge regarding the discussion at hand.
From Russia's POV, it was a choice of invade when they did, or concede ground to their arch nemesis' (NATO). Their decision wasn't so much of a choice as it was them having their hand pushed by the US. Inb4 "This dude is just a Russian and Chinese asset" again. The US would do nearly the exact same thing as Russia is doing now if they were put in the same position as Russia. It's a matter of national security for Russia.
You want proof the US would carry itself the same way? Maybe try looking into pretty much every conflict they have ever had with any country involving territorial disputes. The only difference is they usually fund proxy wars instead of fighting for their own interests. They would be sending in prisoners too if they knew they could get away with it.
There are plenty of reasons to criticize Russia. The aforementioned prisoners in Wagner PMC fighting for freedom, the autocratic government and violations of human rights, and plenty more; but their reason for entering the war is as valid as it gets. The US wants you to believe otherwise because they are the ones that pushed Russia into this corner by threatening them with further NATO encroachment.
@@swoqix2892 so literal fascist imperialist apologia? Kinda cringe video then.
@@zacharychristy8928 talking about imperialist apologia, how's the neonazi propaganda you're spreading going?
I like the channel, but totally disagree with some things here: the hyperinflation happened in 1992-1993 as soon as the prices were liberalized, several years before the oligarchs got control of the main assets and had nothing in common with that. It was a direct consequence of late soviet period, when on each stable rouble there were goods for only 10 kopecks. I remember those times as a child, I was always taken to the queues for basic products like milk and eggs, as there were limits of on piece to one hands, and the kids' hands were also counted. You just had nowhere to spend most of your money and people saved them thinking that they have a lot of money. But they had just a lot of paper as there were no goods that you can get for these papers. After the fixed prices were liberalized, we could have seen what was hidden before - the real price of rouble. Then, neo-nazi. Azov battalion appeared in 2014 in Maidan chaos among other people's militia units as a response on Russian attempts to invade Donbass and Charkiv right after Russia annexed Crimea with no resistance from Ukrainian officials. Yes, during that time Azov was a real nazi unit and did bad shit. But after the active war actions dramatically decreased in 2015, Azov has been incorporated into Ukrainian army, and as for me this is a good solution, how a state can handle an uncontrolled armed force while having a war with a bigger country. Putin recently tried to do the same with Vagner and we all saw what happened.
As for me, the only reason for this war is that no one ever needs to have that much power as Putin. It almost always ends up with madness, tyranny and war. Telling that someone else is guilty for this war is like telling that not only raper is guilty for a rape, the victim might have been dressed less sexy and that other guy shouldn't have tried to court the lady, because he made the raper jealous. Putin is a maniac, and Russia is very sick now, having stepped again on the same rake, having lost all the international opportunities, having squeezed out of the country the best of it's human capital, having made the rest of the people either brainless zombies with no reflection or intimidated people who are afraid of their own shadows, and having killed a lot of random people. I bet, the exact day Putin dies or be arrested, the war will stop, because no one in the world besides this lame bustard wants it. I'm telling this as a Russian
Um grupo nazista incorporado ao exército é uma boa ideia? Você, como eslavo, e descendente dos verdadeiros vencedores da grande guerra patriótica, deveria ter vergonha de dizer isso. Pelo menos 27 milhões de eslavos morreram por culpa dos nazistas, você deveria ter vergonha.
Very well said. I'm unaware of the russiam inflation in the 90s and how it was caused (did not learn that in school, at most only like the date the USSR fell, coming from an American). And thank you for pointing out the history of Azov and the comparative paramilitary unit Wagner. In war it's best not to refuse support even from bad parties, while I wouldn't call them heroes they did fight well for Ukraine which Zelensky truthfully recognized, incorporating them gave them some repsect as a reward and probably helped with coordination on the batrlefield for when a war would start like what is going on. Plus, it was only one unit and not the whole country. As some comments pointed out here neo nazism tends to be the culminatiom of ultra nationalism, which affects all countries, some manifest it unfortunately through political parties and others with paramilitaries. And Russia has its own neo nazis too especially in Wagner, it was a bs claim to invade Ukraine for.
Honestly you being so honest about the ads is so refreshing to hear, I'd say do it, everyone skips ads anyway so it's literally a win win
Agreed
true that
it honestly made me fall in love with this channel, the best content
Couldn't agree more with everything steamthewolf said
Being honest doesnt change the fact that he’s a layman with superficial to incorrect knowledge on the topic. While I absolutely agree that the war was unnecessary, the asshole to blame is 100% putin who is a fascist imperialist and cant accept that former soviet states doesnt want to be ruled by his shitstate and trash economy.
My favourite is when creators add 'chapters' to the timeline, to help you skip past the ads
that's a genius idea!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
@@Boy_Boy As long as the advertiser does not explicitly forbid it, you can add an on screen annotation which skips past the sponsored segment or a similar mechanism for users to avoid seeing the ad. You would think advertisers would have learned to require this in their contracts. You would think...
@@zacablaster
He's paid by Putin anyway so the ads don't matter.
And straight to the ruSSian propaganda
Please note the intentional misinformation when he says “26 million Russians died”. He means 26 million Soviets, 7 million of those being Ukrainians.
I like how you clearly think everyone in the buffer zone were subhumans without agency and that we got somehow annexed by NATO...
Not really. Superpowers themselves still take advantage of these relationships of necessity to empower themselves. None of this is the "fault" of Georgians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Baltic states, eastern Germans, Poles, but being forced into relying on someone for security by someone else at the most means one is aggressive, its not a blanket excuse for the country opposing them.
By the way this video isn't great but the only way you could come to this conclusion is by being massively dishonest and believing that somehow the previously mentioned states are some kind of perfect representation of some kind of national consciousness or spirit which could never, ever be manipulated or misinterpreted or mislead in any way whatsoever, pure incorruptible democracy. Ok. Maybe they in fact, did not mean that people in Eastern Europe - of which one of the guys who produces this channel shares ethnic background - are subhumans. Just fuckin maybe dude.
its deranged logic, like the video comes to the conclusion "just because 1 diplomat said offhandedly that nato wouldnt expand further east, that means russia is ENTITLED to everyone west of moscow and east of berlin being in their sphere and they have the RIGHT to invade those countries otherwise"
@@goose9515 said nobody. Engage with the actual argument and not the manufactured one. The agency of nations that are subject to Russian hostilities is greatly reduced - you do not exactly have much choice when you need security guarantees and your neighbour is untrustworthy. The actual allegation is that the USA has placed its own economic power and foreign policy projects above seeking peaceful coexistence in the long term, not in the past few years. There is very little to be done to avoid the war by the time 2022 or even 2016 came along, but history doesn't start then, and if anyone knows that then it is the Balkan, Baltic and Central European states. Putin and the Russian Federation government have utterly destroyed so much for so little - even in the interest of countering US global ambitions, they have done little more than murder tens to hundreds of thousands in a bloodier repeat of any imperial conquest enacted by it's Rivals. The point is not that eastern Europeans are subhumans and it is a fantasy to suggest that is a serious argument outside of the Russian media or Nazi forums - the argument is that the war was avoidable, and both Russia and the USA are willing and active participants in a cold war that has killed directly or indirectly tens of millions of people over many decades. It is in their interests to push nations into active dependance on them, by their hand or someone else's.
@@goose9515Did we watch the same video or are you just blinded by dogma?
@@silvio2603I believe that it's you who ate up this bullshit video at face value.
It completely misrepresents Russian and Ukrainian history.
It shows Boris almost falling over and trying to hit a bus, while all of that happened near the end of his SECOND term when he was already quite sick for a long time. And that is presented as if he was stupid drunkard who's been controlled by US.
The parliament "decided to return Russia back to normal" was a coupé attempt by communists. Despite it happening more than 30 years ago there's tons of footage of civilians that went to the streets that were trying to oppose being dragged back into communist dystopia. There were street gun fights, because "parliament" had armed radicals backing them up. Main tv broadcaster station was expecting insurrectors to break in at any moment, luckily they either bogged down fighting on the streets or were too stupid to head there.
I can go on and dismantle this video piece by piece, starting from idiotic claims that Boris is to blame for economic downfall, to nationalists ruling in Ukraine (despite having the least seats in any legislative body).
90% of the video is bullshit mixed with facts that had their reasons turned upside down.
Hey Boy Boy, it would be great if you could list your sources in political videos such as these, since it is hard to verify if what you are saying is true. Just saying that with such a political topic, this would be highly advisable, at least thats what I think. But anyway, great video!
Yeah the “eastward” comment in regards to NATO was in reference to Germany and he failed to mention the far right of Russia, or that the independent nations in the east of Ukraine had state broadcasters calling out Ukraine for being in the hand of Zionism and Jewish money…
Forgets that Ukraine was independent as a Socialist nation during the civil war till the Soviets took over… like god the lack of research here is astounding, just made a video for the views it seems ngl
@@raquetdude Also ignoring the sole reason why eastern european countries want to be in NATO - Russia's constant threats and meddling in internal politics. Even now, Russia has been threatening Finland and Sweden with military action.
@@raquetdude I agree with your criticism, but you also got to remember, that this is one dude, who does this in his free time. I don't think that it is just for the views, or at least the views aren't the main objective here, but rather a tool to spread the idea, that this isn't a conflict between good (US) and bad (Russia). Still I agree that with such a topic it is nearly mandatory to do a better research, even if you are alone, because of the claims and "accusations". I also asked them to put their sources in the description.
@@hex_1733 ... Yeah and threatening because why? Because Finland is about to drop a NATO application. Thinking is allowed.
@@rintsi5689 Do you think threatening an independent nation that your country has already tried to invade twice will make them more or less likely to want to join the strongest military alliance in the world.
I think you’re wrong about blaming the nato expansion into the east only on the US and the old NATO members.
The countries of Eastern Europe wanted to get into NATO because they wanted to save themselves from Russian influence. And judging from the events in Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine they were damn right about this.
I live in Eastern Europe and know how it works. Usa corrupt local goverment to do things they want. For example to create hate against local russians and Russia itself. They were hateful to Russia long before war in Ukraine here. For no particular reason. It all artificially made conflicts by Intelegent services and gready corporations owners
I don't think he or "pro-Russians" have the position that Poland or the Baltics states have no right to get away from Russia. The problem we have is that it's awful for Westerners to pretend (or being extremely ignorant about) Russia having no reason to be gravely concerned by having a death-worshipping piece of filth empire like the US move their military power closer to Moscow and Saint Petersburg.
You have to remember that the decision makers in Moscow, however bad they are themselves, have to deal with the reality of the real US and NATO that manipulate and destroy foreign countries every couple of years in the Middle East or other places, and they might be next someday. Not your at-odds-with-data abstractions about the US and NATO being knights on white horses defending the weak against evils like Russia and China (and whoever US decisionmakers don't like). In the case of Ukraine that place was very politically and culturally split in a West and East side. They would not join NATO in one piece independently is what I'm saying. I don't know why you guys have a hard time accepting that the current Ukrainian state is a violently installed junta by the West that has been suppressing pro-Russian voices in the Ukraine since 2014 and the whole place is extremely corrupt and terrible. Despite the fact that the US has been doing that a hundred times around the world during and after the Cold War.
The kavkaz was Russias 9/11 moment. Russias war on terror is unrelated to the NATO question. The NATO expansion was unprovoked. Not letting Russia in was proof this expansion was a hostile attack. Russia never started a war, fascists funded by America did however now twice.
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 Not letting Russia in was proof that they didn't meet the criteria
@@JJosszz but they did
You have some real inaccuracies in this one.
he just like
left out everything that had something to do with "hey, we would actually like to join nato"
@@Ikiloo_ average westerner who doesn't have a clue repeat this narrative
@Ikiloo_ The problem is, not all the population supported it, just the ones in government at the time. In the case of Ukraine, the Yanukovych government that decided against a path to NATO was just as legitimate as the government of Yushenko before that favoured it. Only the US didn't want to leave Ukrainian democracy swinging forever between pro-US and pro-Russia, so they forced the issue and have spent every moment since promoting propaganda that Ukraine was united behind the pro-NATO idea - which it manifestly wasn't, right up until Russia's invasion.
This kind of division has existed to varying degrees across all the old Soviet union. In the baltics, they just ran roughshod over the russian-supporting population.
And it has the effect of empowering far-right, anti-soviet nationalists who like to falsify history and erase their own countries' endemic left-wing movements.
They are scum of the same cut as Putin and NATO absolutely enables them.
@@ilmari1452
The yanukovych government didn't decide against nato. it decided against EU.
You also have to understand that the protests did not only spark cuz of yanukovychs withdrawal from the trade agreement but also because of draconian laws that were being put in to place regarding freedom of speech and freedom of protest. The US had absolutley nothing to do with that, and they did not remove anyone from government.
and since you are mentioning the far right in ukraine.
it is completley false to assume that they had any political relevance before the full scale invasion of ukraine.
there was no institutional falsefication of history. i would argue that there has been done way to little to effectivley process ukrainian history and soviet history and rather stay in that soviet nostalgia for a while longer.
you have to understand that there would have been no future for ukrainian democracy under yanukovych. it would have turned out like belarus.
Americans did a lot to apease russia in ukraine and it would be foolish to assume that they deliberatley snatched away power from the ukrainian people or something.
@@automatedrussianbot8043speaking as a Lithuanian citizen, please enlitghten us esterner 😊
i would love to see a boyboy video on how the cold war affected countries in the global south. i think most people in the west only know about the vietnam war, but not many knows about the effects of the cold war in other south east asian countries and south america
and how america would manipulate basicaly a whole continent and still kindof does to this day
Yes, this! Indonesia is right to your north, a video on that history (thinking of the book The Jakarta Method) would be super interesting and I'd trust y'all could do it justice.
Or in Africa, for that matter. There were multiple Marxist-Leninist regimes on the continent that literally never get talked about in mainstream historical discussion I feel like
mostly dictatorships and concentration camps my mother almost got desapeared she was 8
@@obsessivefanboy We only learned about Angola in this context iirc
I’d have no problem seeing some sponsorships as long as we’re all in it to scam the big corporations!
The clever part is we can't *all* be in on it. And then the devious thing about ads is that they are form of psychological manipulation, after certain amount of exposure to a thing people become accustomed to it.
So even if 90% of people who watch now or would watch this channel sometime in the future agree to this "scheme" - the corps still win. Or stop money. Or they might stop money but still win in a long run.
I disagree
It all relies on you fighting every urge to buy a stupid product!
@@Makujah_ I can't buy their subscriptions if I'm forever too poor to afford them! Take that corpos! Can't take money I don't have!
wait
Sponsored by Putin and RT
Can you guys compile your research in every video and provide sources in the descriptions or on a separate website? Being able to see and use this research would be useful.
Full of fake news, god seems like kremlin Propaganda repacked
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@Chickent_Nug @miks_w when he wrote the comment it wasn't there but now it is
@@gamingastronaut517 oh gotcha
Genuine question, do you still stand by everything you say in this video now?
well, do you still stand by this comment now?
@@anyldrm5663 Yes
@@Sam-hm5yc What about now?
@@kyetokace1199 Yes, it’s still a legitimate question. Doubly so as the world has seen the Russian military’s actions in Ukraine and Putin’s historical reasoning for the invasion.
@@anyldrm5663 are you implying fascist imperialism is cool now? Kinda cringe bro.
Simping for Putin has to be a new low 😂😂😂
He dunks on Putin in this very video...
this is just tankies whole ideology, basically america bad, that's it
@@stefmyt5062 Ah yes the old support an enemy of the US just to take a stab at the US and end with the "by the way I also don't like those guys either".
Trying to understand a simple video like this with the small brain you have, will be a life high for you.
I like how everyone can agree that we all hate politicians more than politics.
Politics are among the most interesting subject in the world.. A shame no politician is ever interested in them
What we hate is capitalism. It's the power of capital held by the oligharcs that decide who are the ruling politicians. Politicians are merely puppets. What's behind them is the interest of capital. All capital wants is expanding itself through profit.
I wonder who funds these evil politicians
@@JuT11Politics is like the NFL and politicians are the players. It doesn't matters who wins or who loses and the players get paid very well regardless. None of this crap really matters, politics is a job and they're all power and money-crazy narcissists.
The average man or woman is more interested in politics than the politician
I have quarrels with this video's over emphasis on Neo-Nazis and the media.
Yes, it is true that right-wing and far-right did had a presence in government after 2014 Euromaidan, like the Svoboda or the National Front, but make no mistake, Poroshenko was in charge the whole time, not the far-right. Governments under Poroshenko were either majority from his party (European Solidarity, which is not far-right nor right-wing mind you) and non far-right small coalition parties, or short-live in the case of the first government after Euromaidan that was dominated by far-right parties, but it lasted less than a year. And after Zelenskyy and the 2019 Rada election, practically all far-right or right-wing MPs were voted out, and Zelenskyy's government has next to no right-wing nor far-right members. People that you mentioned in the video who're far-right, Andriy Biletsky (first commander of Azov battalion), Oleh Makhnitskyi (he was in government for less than a year), Oleksandr Sych (also in government for less than a year), they weren't in government after 2019. Do you know who's still in office? Vitali Klitschko, the boxer you mentioned, who's the mayor of Kyiv since 2014 and stayed in the city throughout the Russian invasion and bombing, especially when they're mere miles from the city center, and he actively promoted the situation on the ground to us Westerners. Saying Ukraine's government is or imply it's Neo-fascist is not only wrong, as it never had majority nor significant power, but it is completely false after 2019, so it's outdated information. Plus not saying the far-right had loss their footing in Parliament plays into Putin's fallacy that he's de-nazifying Ukraine, which is just a lie.
In the case of the far-right militia, Kyiv government had nothing to do with this. They were self-organized militia groups that went to or established themselves in Ukraine after Russia first invaded in 2014, Ukraine made no effort to set up these groups. And it's not Ukraine's fault that far-right militias are in Ukraine, Russia invaded Ukraine which created battlefields, conditions that attracted these people. And what else could they do?? Groups like the Azov Battalion did help in the War in the Donbas, Kyiv could kick them out or disband them (hard to do since most of them are Ukrainian and they organized themselves without government initiative) and allow further encroachment by Putin, which is the worst case scenario, or to semi-organize them so they could keep holding Russia at bay while having some leverage over them as they're now part of the chain of command (at least on paper), which is what they did by incorporating these militias into voluntary battalions, which is part of the National Guard. And you didn't mention that they weren't the star of the show in the War in Donbas, they might be eye-catching with their flags, salutes and Neo-Nazi stands, but it was the Ukrainian Army and the backbone of the National Guard that did the hard work in the Donbas.
In the case of media, you also forgot to mention that Ukrainian media today is still dominated by oligarchs. In fact, that article you used in the video, "How Zelensky’s administration moves to dismantle press freedom in Ukraine" by Kyiv Independent mentioned this exact fact. And Zelenskyy did more than just "attack" the press, he also passed a law to have a public registry of oligarchs and ban them from owning media groups. With this info in mind, you can say that Zelenskyy is either attacking an "independent" media (independent as in not owned by the government but owned by private oligarchs), or he's trying to make this oligarch-dominated Ukraine media more independent from oligarchs.
this video is hilarious because the Ukrainian military straight up mutinied against the police force in Kiev arming the protestors to fight the oppressive police. I cannot imagine how this guy took that information and somehow concocted it to be that the Nazi's were behind it all and the west's cabal of world leaders sanctioned Neo-nazi groups. This is straight up Russian propaganda.
A fellow Ukrainian? Edit. Nvm see you refered to yourself as westerner. I had the exact same thoughts as you in your comment, thanks for saving me time writing it out haha.
To add to this, the emphasis that was put on the leaked ambassador call which could also be interpreted as trying to mediate the situation to stabilize the country versus nothing said about for example who owned the media channels Zelensky shut down, or the WAY more obvious and significant Russian meddling in our politics compared to US.
And yes the Azov situation is complicated but I think it has been handled in the best way possible: admit them into the military to take control (which many people stupidly equate to government supporting those groups), allow them to fight to both save the country at the time of military weakness and also to weed down the very ranks of hardcore nationalists.
@@Petricpwnz I find it weird how fixated pro Russia people are on the AZOV battalion when at its MAX it had 3K personnel in the battalion. Literally 3% of Ukraine's entire military was a far right Neo Nazi organization and now suddenly the whole military is Neo Nazi somehow. Makes no fucking sense.
@@Voraciouscommentary Mostly because Russian propaganda keeps working with this angle like there is no tomorrow since it's basically the only moral jusrification they can sell to their own population so it gets talked about unreasonably much. Even near the start of Azov's existence they self-reported as consisting of about 15-20% real nazis, nowadays with integration into the military it's likely considerably less due to more filtering on new recruits etc. There are even actual russians fighting in Azov because they feel it's the most effective way they can use their abilities to directly combat Putin's regime.
Overall anyone with a braincell or two can look at the factual evidence of existence or absence of popular support of nazism: far right representation in the parliament. And it's practically non-existent. In the end it all amounts to shouting loud about a nazi minority and those exist in every nation.
The one thing Russians are doing right now hovewer is breeding more NEW extremist nationalists by invading, and this time they have not just ideology they picked up somewhere, but ideology molded by having their family blown to pieces by a Russian artillery strike.
Wall of text larger than Trump's wall rip also tl;dr
13:03 Russia has also nationalistic formations, like „Rusich” or „Kolovrat”
Did you even listen to what he was saying? Every country has those formations, but only one has them in their military
@@a55man a lot of far right formations are being officially integrated into the Russian army, they announced the integration of seperatist forces months ago
@@zebra1327 Can you please link me the source of that info or just say where can I find that? All I could find is that they cooperated with the PMC and not the government. Also separatist doesn't mean nationalist.
@@a55man You can use google, quit being a lazy dense idiot. Also, while you're at it, look up "Sparta Batallion"
Yes, Russians have them, but they don't hate Ukrainians because they are "untermench"
I get that criticising the US where most people don’t from a western point of view is a narrative which is not talked about enough. And of course there is a plan behind any foreign action the US commits to. But that doesn’t justify to pick out what you need to present a point of view which is questionable and one-sided at best.
Could've also been avoidable if russia would keep theur promises. Like not invading ukraine in exchange for the soviet era nukes?
the argument of one side avoiding the war goes both ways, like is America stood by their treaty and didn't expand NATO any further east. I think that the best outcome of this video is to realise that everyone in power sucks; russian, american and ukrainian.
@@jackeddowell728 AFAIK America said they wouldn't do it. Russia had an actually contractual aggreement for the nukes.
disregard this comment idk what i was thinking guys 💀
Who intervened who first? As always in middle east, NATO had supported greatly the protesters. They tried the same in Belarus and even Russia, but failed miserably. Ukraine was 50/50 shot, so we have what we have. A situation similar like in Syria, but it just closer to West, so it hurts more, i guess. It's fine when brown people die and conflict is far far away, right, Westerners???? :(..
@@meskiszwhat?
Woah the NATO expanded cause Russia's neighbours got scared of Russia after Chechnya and Georgia! Who would've thought?
@@pavelgrigortsuk2489 purely defensive bro trust me
*Created to destroy the USSR and funds genocide*
Who would have thought the breakup of the soviet union was something literally no one wanted
@@Commielover69 ye, except all of the states that wanted independence
@@27augis all the people that was part of the ussr want the union back
@@Commielover69 im from one of those countries and nobody wants that. No- bo- dy
You get a lot wrong.
1) In the phone call Nuland suggests keeping Klitschko out of government, while letting Yatsenyuk in, to make sure Tyahnybok, the ultranationalist, isn't the sole face of the street movement -- but her proposed reconciliation deal was REJECTED by Ukrainians who weren't ready to accede to Yanukovich and so the street movement continued on.
2) Yanukovich fled because he ordered protestors shot and his guard defected. There was no far-right violent charge into his office to try to unseat him or whatever else you're trying to imply.
3) The eastern regions of Ukraine are not "Russian regions". Every region of Ukraine is majority ethnic Ukrainian and language is not national identity (just ask Ireland). Even the supposed division between Ukrainian speakers and Russian speakers is almost completely overblown. Many people in Ukraine are bilingual and the political class for pretty much the entire last 30 years has been native Russian speakers. Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker. The eastern battalions are mostly majority native Russian speakers. Some of the greatest Ukrainian patriots are native Russian speakers. Supposed suppression of Russian speakers is nonsense. The language law passed was quite milquetoast and aimed at preserving the Ukrainian language, and other EU official languages, and contained mainly just things like if a radio broadcast was in Russian it must also have a sister broadcast in Ukrainian. This is quite on par with language laws in, say, some EU countries or in Quebec.
4) Biletskiy hasn't led Azov since 2015. Azov is nothing like a "neo-Nazi militia" today. The questionable iconography has to some degree been left but that doesn't represent the ideology. (Azov is almost entirely native Russian speakers, by the way.) The far-right has never had even 10% of the national parliament and since 2014 hasn't even had 2 PERCENT of the national parliament -- better than Germany, France, or Italy. (EDIT: You eventually mention the election results.)
On point number 2 literally the day before he defected there were militia batallions of the right wing saying that if he doesnt defect by the next day then they will start shooting. This is on top of the snipers being said by people who were there to becoming from the Maidan occupied buildings and not the police
for 3 whatever the case for the language situation was clearly the Russian speakers in the East were feeling suppressed. You kinda suggest that people go into open rebellion just for fun.
for 4 look at literally any Azov video and you will see people with swastikas or any other kind of neo-nazi symbolism. They were made to keep it slightly hidden when the war started but still you don't have to look far to see it. Maybe you don't think they are neo-nazis but the Jewish people don't seem to agree with you
Agree.
3) Some Russian western regions include a large part of native Ukrainians, for example, the cities of Belgorod and Krasnodar.
4) Neo-nazi Bullshit cames from russian propaganda. Every Ukrainians okay with any nation or race, unless it touch russia. And this like was far far before russia invassion, soviet unions, and even russian empire. Because every life in Ukraine have at least one lost relatives because of russia or however it called.
>Azov is nothing like a "neo-Nazi militia" today
HHAHAHAHAHHAHHA
i hope they're paying you for this nonsense
@hehmda Cool story, bro. Do you have any evidence of super spooky Azov rapaciously doing hate crimes, or really anything wrong to anyone since 2015? Or are you just soying out at random images you saw and decided to pick apart with a toothpick?
This video is bad, and you should feel bad.
Pretty incredible that despite being an incredibly politically charged video every single comment is just about sponsorships hmmmmmm... 🤔
A video with controversial opinions on a charged topic, yet the comments are mostly devoid of any controversial discussion (read: giant argumentative comment chains) about it? That just doesn't happen, which leaves me with the conclusion that most opinions going against the video are just being deleted.
@@ska042 Yes - order the comments by Newest first and you’ll see the incoming comments that haven’t been deleted yet.
@@Pbairsoftman it hasn't aged at all, what the fuck are you talking about
yeah like, the soviets did narrative astroturfing around fascism like no one else. this is the continuation of that brazen attitude with some sides swapped, if moscow is fash today like they have been for centuries why wouldn't they plant the narrative ooh but ukraine are the real fascists! when mislabeling them as fascists if dissenting and russian if docile was stalins thing.
extremely sus
Errr, I don’t get your jump from „Russia getting sold off“ to „Russia needs a military buffer zone“.
Any country who faces genocide at the hands of the Amerikkkan regime needs a military buffer zone or else they end up like Libya or North Korea
Sure, let's assume that USA buying themselves into every government or supporting coups that they later then fight against like ISIS(keeping the war machine running nice and away from their own territory, literally making trillions from people dying abroad) is somehow not at all relevant to the whole story of the country getting sold out, the Americans being directly responsible for the economic state of russian people for decades until now.
It's clear that America wants to have their puppet hands up every politician's ass in places they have should be blocked off from for good. They went over everyone's will and then will talk about 'democracy' meanwhile they topple every government they can that's not fond of USA's fucking over the whole world for their own benefit.
It happened so many times that the USA as a country constitutes to be on par with Nazi Germany and the likes for killing millions of people to push their agenda through their sleazy backdoor deals with the opposition in countries they should have fuck all to say.
But it keeps happening, even in Ukraine, where a good portion is russian and they went on to support the nazi militias that became part of the actual army just to fuck over the government that wasn't bending over to get used by the Americans as they please.
Why would anyone in their right mind not see that as an attack on their own people who would then be at the mercy of some proper neonazis in a country virtually part of the US military industrial complex?
I will say though that the NATO expansion argument has one particularly dishonest element. NATO expansion wasn't just a thing that happened, it's something that the new countries on the edge to a hostile military superpower willingly went into because they knew that Russia wouldn't respect international laws if they weren't backed by Western guns. What can ya do?
Edit: Saying Ukraine was last independent because of the Nazis makes my blood kinda boil. Ukrainians fought and died bravely to protect the Soviet Union from the Nazis, and they sure as hell weren't "independent" under them. Their country was destroyed by the Nazi invasion, and then again by the Soviet counterinvasion.
It should make your blood boil.
It's true that the majority of Ukrainians joined the red army to fight the Nazis, they're amazing people that made an enormous sacrifice and the world is indebted to them. But the post-Maidan government spent so much energy tearing down monuments to those brave Ukrainians and rehabilitating all these gross rightwing OUN figures. When I say "last time they were independent" it's a tongue-in-cheek reference to the dominant nationalist narrative pushed by the rightwing.
@@Boy_BoyThe Pre-Maidan government was a pro-Russian sell out
@@Boy_BoyWhile it is terrible that those statues exist, it's rather disningenuous to blame them on the "post maidan government" as in the last elections in 2019, the most prominent far-right party called "svoboda" only got 1,6% of the votes, while 70% of Ukrainians ended up voting for Zelenskyy, a jew. It's perfectly okay to criticise that, but i think it's important to remark that the far right's influence in ukraine is waning, as per the 2019 election's results.
Also, it strikes me as a bit one sided to put that much blame on the US and NATO, as it's the russians who started it all in the first place. Igor girkin (a russian who commanded rebel forces in Crimea and then Donbas) himself admitted he started the war in the east of Ukraine, where the little green men also made an appearence to support him. So i think the fears of the eastern european countries turned out to be justified.
All in all, Russia shouldn't have started all of this just because Ukraine was going to step out of its sphere of influence. I believe countries should be able to freely decide who they want to ally themselves with. So i believe it is right to help Ukraine push the russians out of their country.
@@yoelmio533 Very true, the reason in this is not relevant, Russia invaded Ukraine, Russia and Putin has never seen Ukraine as a independent country, they have always regarded Ukraine as theirs to control, google "kievan rus" and when you have done so google "putins manifesto on Ukraine" and lastly google "ruski mir" Putin wants to create a legacy, he wants to be "the father of Russia" to be celebrated as such for eternity, he has lost his mind because of power, but it is not an easy thing for an Australian to know.
But as a citizen of a country neighbouring Moscow, we are painfully aware, we know them, our army is built on fighting russia and no one else, it has been so for 73 years, for good reason, our fighters "JAS 39 Gripen" are designed for warfare against russia on nordic soil, soldiers are trained against a russian threat, our navy is setup for a war with russia. When I was young we rutinely trained on what to do when the russians comes, we used to have a plan for exactly everything and if the signal came, EVERYONE knew what to do, everyone had a role, this is just a matter of time.
@@yoelmio533 I just want to add, that racism and nationalism works in both sides. White people, who hate black people are racists, so the other way around. Germans, that killed jews were nazis, but if jews were
doing the same to germans, they would be nazis too. And I completely don't understand argument "Their president is jew, so they are not nazis".
when you are so anti war you start blaming the victim
Are you saying that the US is the victim? Because in no way does this video blame Ukraine. The video literally explains how both Russia and the West have fucked Ukraine over
@@noa9125 yes it does, pay attention. in practice the video explains nothing, it misinforms and outright lies about some things.
the only time the US and Europe fucked Ukraine over was in 2014 when they refused to react in any meaningful way to the annexation of Crimea.
“But Ukraine asked for this war by wanting to decide their own destiny instead of being a Russian client state like Belarus. You see war is bad, and Ukraine should have done whatever Russia wanted to avoid the war.”
Stupid line of thinking
there was no war from the time the soviet union collapsed until the maidan when the west tried to overthrow yanukovich. this retarded reasoning of "countries deciding their own destiny and can do whatever they want with no consequences" has no place in international relations. by that logic, russia decided its own destiny, to attack ukraine for antagonizing russia.@@kyrieelite
Ukraine is the only victim who can let the far right commit a slaughter for a decade and then not deserve the consequences. As an Ukrainian you westerners are played like fools. But you have no choice in this conflict, Ukraine will be saved from Hitler again.
I have to say this feels like finding the facts that fit your narrative. “Preventable” suggests Putin had no other options which is absurd.
literally baited by america to go to war and putin took the bait
@@arx48 Hasan’s take isn’t it?
@Khaotik_99 nato expansion. People outside the US agree with this. People in India I have spoken too said the same. US flew too close to the sun with nato and the Ukrainian people suffer for it
@@sethivaltas619 oh no are you one of those hate watchers?
@@Curry_Communist what?
I'm so fucking sick "NATO expansion Oh my god so bad!"
Every former eastern block state who is in NATO today has more than enough reason to be there.
White supremacy?
@@jamesrowlands8971 More like Soviet imperialism.
Boy, I live near the border in Russia and there are f*cking rockets hitting cities in my area, and I don't want this shit happening anywhere else . It's better to let ukrainian blood flow then my own or my fellow russians.
@@Burkutace27 the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore. Are you just doing the Judeo-Bolshevism thing?
@@jamesrowlands8971 If you'd bothered reading for context, I meant Soviet imperialism is the reason (among many) the eastern block nation flocked to NATO. The Red Army didn't liberate eastern Europe, they conquered it.
11:45 Russian stopped being official language even when Ukranian SSR existed, to be exact in 1989
This video is chock full of one-sided, biased information. At times its obvious they didnt research a topic past the headline on the first article
@@razvanefros411Cope and seethe Nazis
Russian speaking people weren't terrorized in 1989, that's the difference. And Russian wasn't banned from the public
@@ZORGINyou arwnt banned from speaking russian lol. Where did you get this info? RT?
@@Monke1312_ “Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy signed into law a ban on the commercial import of books from Russia.” This is how you make a language die out. And additionally, we also had far right neo nazis killing civilians for a long time.
As a Person from Slovakia (neighbour of Ukraine, we had our experience with invasion from USSR) I do not agree with few of your points which to me are trying in a way too much putting more weigh on NATO being the root cause of this invasion rather than imperialism of Putins government
To be fair, both can be true. Putin is an imperialist prick, but NATO has the same ambitions, they just dress them up a bit better.
i don't think they are trying to put away weight from putin's government in this - they are just showing us another perspective. both of them can be true at the same time. this is an important perspective to bring up though since media won't do it.
@@GoldnDusty yeah the alliance that is voluntary has imperal ambitions
@@noa9125 It doesn't matter what they were trying to do. They have made excuses for a fascist government, most often by parroting it's lies. "The Media" has been bringing up this perspective for the last decade before the war, or did you not read the sources list? They repeat blatant lies, such as Russia losing 26 million people in WW2, Ukraine being overrun by Neo-nazi's, and Maidan being a CIA coup. In reality, the Soviet Union lost 26 million people, of which 5 million were Ukrainian, and millions more were from other republics. As any look at what actually happens in Ukrainian politics will tell you, there were extremely small numbers of neo-nazi's in Ukraine, especially in their government, and the sketchy battalions that were merged, were merged AFTER Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, and the most nazi people were removed. That's before you look at Russian side of the equation, in which a Private Military Company that has done a lot of the fighting, including some anti-Moscow rebelling, was founded by a guy with SS tattoos. I wonder what he believes? Maidan was the response to the breaking of the promise that got Yanukovych elected; EU cooperation till eventual membership. Ukraine voted in Yanukovych to get them into the EU. He walked out on that with no warning and no reason. It would be more concerning if they didn't protest. Then there's plenty of other things, like how it was RUSSIAN troops that were the original fighting force in the Donbass, not Ukrainian protestors, and no Western media outlet except Vox admitted this. Then there's the argument of "NATO expansion" made in complete and total contempt for the people who suffered under the iron curtain and Russian imperialism in the latter half of the 20th century, and their sovereingty to protect themselves. Russia has not invaded a country whilst it was in NATO, and that is why every single non-USSR Warsaw pact member joined. They knew the only guarantee against Russian aggression was article 5, so they took it. There's a reason Boy Boy has no Ukrainian or Eastern European sources. Because if you look at things from the perspective of the people it actually affects, not the propaganda Putin waves at the world, it's pretty clear who's in the wrong. And if you look at what Russian propaganda says to Russia, it's obvious the fascists are not the Ukrainians. But that would go against Alex's simplistic "America bad" worldview and would take understanding Ukraine, Russia, and Eastern Europe, something he's too egotistical to do.
@@nabicx Do you think that multiple nations being involved in an alliance of strength prevents imperialism? Have you read any history book of Europe? Hell, you don’t even have to go back too far; both the Axis and the Allies were alliances founded on imperialism of different stripes. Churchill’s initial and abiding view of Hitler was a concern for the establishment of a new Reich, not that the Reich was fascist.
Any new variation on that view, now that a year has passed?
13:00 "the only country in the world which has full-blown Neo-Nazi formations" - Wagner group isn't coincidentially named so, but took the name from one of their founders Utkin- a Neonazi who adopted the name of Hitler's favorite composer as his nom-de-guerre. Another co-founder, Miltschakow, is a committed Neonazi, open admirer of Adolf Hitler, and known for cutting swastikas into his victims (and not in the sense of Inglorious Bastards, where the cut person is supposedly marked for the rest of their life - he marks the dead bodies, as a signature). They all know each other from, and filled their ranks with other fighters from previous Neonazi-themed ethnically motived PMCs, such as "Slavic Corps", "Russian Imperial League", and other groups which in all regularity openly display Neonazi symbols, doing group hitler salutes and so on, and were running wide net of contact to european Neonazi groups (including martial arts tournaments and so on).
What can be said is that in the post-soviet collapse, a whole lot of soviet military people jumped into the ship of hyper-nationalism, which is why you see these tendencies openly on both sides; but it can be said that proper nazism always goes together best with historic revisionism - a supposedly large and powerful political entity feeling humiliated by a loss of territory, and longing back for their "rightful place" in the world by means of expansion and military aggression. Which, you have to admit, sounds a lot more like Russia than Ukraine, who basically just want out, want to have a new future.
I find it most telling that in the country I live in, Austria, parliamentarians from the most right-wing party (FPÖ), some who actually personally took place in commemorative celebrations of the fallen SS soldiers, or were previously convicted for Hitler-saluting etc.; proper Neonazis from Hitler's birthplace so to speak, walked out on the jewish president Zelensky during a video conference, because he was supposedly representing a Neonazi government and they wanted to "stay neutral" in this conflict. Only makes one laugh at that point. On the other side, a whole number of party members stay not so neutral towards Russia - they were downright comically eager to receive russian money and support, leading to the downfall of the government they got involved in - when the vice-chancellor agreed to meet with a supposed oligarch's daughter to do shady deals, including selling off the state-run construction contracts, as well as throwing away the legal hurdles for that oligarch to create a media empire within Austria - in a private villa in Ibiza, where the whole thing got filmed as the oligarch's daughter was fake and the villa was prepped (marvellous thing, I guess you'd have loved it!). Russia in general is well-established as a supporter for basically all major right-wing and extremist groups in Europe such as Front Nationale, Lega Nord...
You have to admit, from that background, the Nazi claim doesn't quite stick so well.
Absolutely. The implication that Ukraine has more violent, racist, homophobic nationalists fighting for it than russia is complete horseshit. Even then it still wouldn't justify invading that country and killing, raping, and kidnapping tens of thousands of people. Just an insane misrepresentation of the conflict.
Dude in West Ukraine (actual Ukraine) they openly consider Stepan Bandera their national hero... There's nothing equivalent to that in Russia. The worst you can consider in Russia would be their slight rehabilitation of Stalin, but Stalin wasn't exactly some Russian supremacist, he was a cynical, murderous Bolshevik who didn't shy away from throwing many Russians in prison or worse as well.
I agree that calling your opponent Nazis was weak from the Kremlin's side, it's ironically insulting to the old Nazis to compare the Ukrainian far right losers who like to roleplay to actual competent monsters. However the threat to the population in Crimea and Donetsk where the vast majority don't want to be "liberated" by the Ukrainian Army is real and the only thing stopping them from doing that was the Russian Army.
@@uncleadi I'll sum that up: let's ignore what is actually happening and go for cheap pseudo-historic symbolism. None of this conflict was caused by Bandera nationalists, and right wing symbols like this are othwrwise entirely accepted by Russia - show me one other example where they are oh so disgusted by similiar ultranationalists. In Hungary? In Serbia? In Germany? Austria? France? Italy? Within their own army? Within their own government ministers? They always get along exceptionally well with that sort of group - just not in Ukraine. Therefore "nazis" are not the actual problem that created this conflict in 2014. And please check your chronology if you want to claim that the 2014 election caused any sort of reaction - it was a proactive russian intervention through and through, with Russia sending unmarked troops and arming separatists before the rightfully elected pro-western government had even taken office.
Please tell me this: In this conflict, which side is representing the aggressive revisionist ideology, who's breaking all international laws and regularly acts in bad faith to restore their former position of power? Which side has literally been following Hitler's Czechoslovakia 1938 playbook to the letter, and expected a Chamberlain response?
You have omitted one word in your quote of Aleksa. The actual quote is "Ukraine is the only country in the world that (!!!) openly (!!!) has full-blown Neo-Nazi formations in it's military". Here's some facts:
1 - Wagner is a Private Military Company, and PMCs are officially banned in Russia's law, same as mercenary work is criminalized in general [vs] Azov is an official battalion of Ukraine's National Guard.
2 - Wagner's leaders were recently killed in Russia after an attempted "coup" under mysterious circumstances [vs] Azov's leader POWs are actively being negotiated for and returned to Ukraine from Turkey.
So yes, now that a year has passed (and Wagner is pretty much dissolved at this point) it's even clearer that while Russia (as well as other countries, as Aleksa says) does have a bunch Neo-Nazis in their military forces (probably more than most, tbh), at least on paper they have always pretended and keep pretending that those are not official. Ukraine does not.
P.S. Disclaimer - do not judge on whose side I am based on this comment, I'm just presenting facts about a relatively small part of a much bigger and complicated conflict.
Also I feel like the same disclaimer can be applied to Aleksa's video in general, except he presents much more facts about much more parts of the war.
@@tonyhouse8500 i have to add, the Wagner rebellion happened after my post here, at the time of writing it was a perfectly accepted and propagandistically celebrated part of the russian war effort - I mean, they followed Prigoshin around on russian TV to do recruiting for his PMC inside russian prisons, for christ's sake. Therefore, as to regards of Russia "prohibiting" mercennary groups, I have to ask: is that the same kind of legal "prohibition" that they have regarding terrorist groups, meaning "it's illegal, yes, but only if it hurts our interest" (their official position regarding Hamas and other islamist extremist groups way before this recent escalation)?
12:56 2nd Mistake. Russia has the Wagner group and Sparta battalion who are open neo nazis
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Im sure people would absolutely love to see a follow up about this video
this video is a load of horse shit
@@tarotakras6409I guess if you’re inclined to the worldview of America bad then sure? Otherwise it’s a pretty terrible explanation.
@firebird4491 I've come to my own conclusions after studying several wars that America is bad, and on top of that they have a fuckton of influence through pop culture I also question heavily. So no, I'm not goosefed "America bad", I am from a country that's one of USAs biggest supporters, and due to that I've also had my own encounter with the American military visiting, on friendly terms... absolutely fucking up my day... so yeah fuck the USA... on my own terms
america bad is a correct take my guy. @@firebird4491
@@tarotakras6409 I doubt you've spent any time on understanding the war since this is one of the most ahistorical explanation
It's a bit to simple to say Jeltsin sold away Russia. Gorbatsjov started with that long before after ending the cold war. But Jeltsin made an art out of it.
very true!
Putin didn't do anything for the economy , he was lucky gas prices doubled when he started his presidency.
Truly an art 😂😂
Come on, Yeltsin't times corruption was a joke comparing to what is going the 23 years of Putin's reign. Tens of thousands of Russian officials of different levels live the life of Saudi Princes and show it off in instagram with no fear. The largest amount of money in all world offshores are associated with Russians, they just pump oil, gas, peoples souls and lives out of the country and save all abroad.
Holy hell its not the only misrepresentation in this video. Wow.
Holy shit this video just keeps getting the same comments over and over, its pretty funny and weird. "hey great sponsorship idea bro" or "wtf this is Russian propaganda"
Has to be botted or something. Weirdest comment section I've ever seen. Also a video with 500K views and 8K comments? Wtf.
Yeah it's extremely suspicious that nearly every comment is talking about the ads/sponsorship versus the boatloads of content which is packed into this video.
Maybe all the "nato bad" comments get removed
Because it actually is a strict russian propaganda. I don’t know where he did his research, but is is everything that Russia wants you to hear. A ton of information that he stated is out of context, a lot of important information and details are missing, and there are some straight up lies through the video.
I didn’t expect it from Alexa, as I really enjoy what he is doing. But if he made a video about war, that is a really serious topic, and he straight up did it by a Russian book. What a dumbass.
@@Vajrapani108 no they don't, they get debunked by Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans who actually have experience with Russian imperialism and chose NATO. Hopefully one day Indians will get enough empathy to realise it's still imperialism when it's not happening to them.
us did sign an agreement to protect Ukraine for giving up their nukes. Is the precedent we want to set that if you get nukes never give them up? Otherwise your boarder aren’t secure. Seems to me it would be beneficial if the international community was able to fallow thru on this promise in particular.
Ukraine never had nukes - all the buttons were always in Moscow. Ukraine only had some nujes on its territory but no actual control, that's why they gave it away. I don't think any country would actually give their nuke out.
@@zacnieprawisz9171I understand what your saying, but if you have nukes in your territory and you do not officially act as a vassel state for those nukes. Sooner or later you have those nukes because you have the technology to reproduce them if nothing else which seems to be half the battle
You know who else signed that agreement to protect Ukraine? Russia, what an irony
you are talking about the budapest memorandum? They just agreed to not attack or interfere and not to defend.
@@zacnieprawisz9171eh look at that Saudi and Iran just started a proxy war in Israel over nukes, called it.
This video is twitter brain.
13:00 Divisions of the Wagner Group have fascist symbols as their markings, so that satement is false. The head of Wagner also openly has an SS tattooed on his skin.
Where ? Evegeny prigozin has? Show some proofs pls only accusations
@@noone7692 I got confused, it's not prigozin, it's the founder of Wagner, Dmitry Utkin.
@@noone7692 his SS tattoo is on his shoulders, near his neck.
@@Bonedagi i have seen 3 hrs interview of him with an interview with war gonzo and i didnt see
Any tattoos on neck nor anyone with credibility claiming he is a nazi
When you realize both sides are using Neo-Nazis for their interests, its just that one invaded the other and annexed territories.
As a Russian, this video didn’t really felt right for me - probably because we exist in different infospaces and I’m way more exposed to Russian propaganda & I see how they use those points to instigate and excuse the invasion.
I understand that getting your points through is important and we shouldn’t overlook the West’ responsibility for the entire situation but this video would be way more fitting for the world before the 24th of February rather than for the world that we live now - with the Crimea’s annexation and proxy republics of DPR & LPR. And I actually used a lot of them myself in my conversations with foreigners who weren’t really aware of how complicated that system was. When the army at the border still looked like a bluff and Russia wasn’t demolishing entire cities for nonsensical reasons.
At this point though, overestimating the influence that neo-Nazis had on Ukraine in the past, sadly, works to reinforce Putin’s baseless claims that Russia needed to free Ukraine from the Nazi rule (you can simply compare the amount of far-right in the government in 2014 and 2022 to realize that this claim has nothing to do with reality).
A few of your points were also poorly researched. Do look up the document where NATO was discussing it expansion on the East - and the almost instant rebuttal of that point that they’ve made after releasing that statement (the original one was only talking about Germany).
The cancellation of the Russian language in Ukraine is also not a thing, it’s an alarmist bs that have been pushed through by RT & the likes for years. More so, most of the cities that have been hit by the war the most were still majorly Russian-speaking - I’m talking Mariupol, Kharkiv etc. Although I would imagine that Russian language will hardly be spoken in Ukraine after this war ends.
I know that you’ve mentioned that Putin is a maniac and Russia is an aggressor but the video in general shifts the blame a bit too much. And yeah, US imperialism is a problem that we should tackle and we shouldn’t forget about their own military invasions in, like, half of the entire world, but at this moment in time we should focus on stopping Putin first and foremost.
Fascinating
Hi, i'm half-russian, half-italian, i speak both languages and lived in both countries (but mainly in Italy), and i hope i can help mutual comprehension between comrades.
It's very difficult for russians to understand how things work in the west, and probably it's even more difficult for westeners to understand how things go in Russia. In particular, there are some similarities and differences that people don't realize. Talking of differences: a very big difference is the meaning of "fascism". In Russia, the 2nd world war was a very big collective trauma, as you know better than me. My russian grandfather had PTSD for his whole life and died at a relatively young age for complications related to wounds reported during the Leningrad's siege. Almost every russian family has a similar story, and fascism was, for the generation that fought and for the next ones, a very precise thing, with precise symbols. Defending yourself against the invasion was primarly about defending your homes and your country, your motherland, and only secondary about ideology (freedom, socialism and so on). In the west, it was very different. In Italy's resistance, for instance, the patriotic element was present but secondary to the ideological one. The resistence was mainly organized by communists who were fighting not only against german "aliens", but also against italians with a differrent ideological position: it was also a CIVIL war, and not just a war against an external enemy. Even for the USA, the ideological element was dominant: they didn't fight for their homes, which were distant and safe. The soldiers fought instead in the name of abstract concepts like "freedom" (which obviously were also hiding the economic interests of the U.S. elite, but that's not relevant to my point now).
Also, the numbers were very different: in terms of deaths and destruction, the clash with fascism was a bigger trauma for the USSR than for every other country in the world.
In Italy, but also in Spain (i lived there too), if you fly the national flag of those countries, many people will immediately suspect you of being a fascist sympatizer, or at least a rightist. In the USSR, instead, the national flag meant the exact opposite of fascism: it was the country that defeated the nazis, and soviet patriotism wasn't incompatible with anti-fascism (while patriotism in western countries frequently associates with fascism).
This means that the concept of fascism in the West is much less about historical fascism and symbols and much more about ideological stances like nationalism, while in Russia many people (expecially the elder ones) can sincerly consider themselves anti-fascists while still having nationalist ideas, and attribute a stronger meaning and specificity to historical fascist symbols (like for instance the swastika) than average westerners.
This means that Putin's invasion is really justified by the presence of organized and powerful fascist groups in Ukraine? OBVIOUSLY NO, at least by my opinion.
But this means that the excuse for the invasion "there are fascist there, let's invade the country" sounds much more common-sense for a average russian than for an average westerer (and, in fact, the majority of russians seem to support the war right now). This also means that the EU and the U.S.A., by financing the nazi groups in Ukraine for their dirty interests through NATO, not only did an horrible thing "per se", but also gave Putin a very functioning internal consense weapon to support his bloody war.
The fascist's power in Ukraine isn't secondary to all the horrible things that are happening, even if is not a moral justification to invade a country, and for the cultural reasons i explained (different concepts of fascism) westerners often have huge difficulty understanding this.
Obviously, in Russia the first priority is to make people understand that the presence of fascists is not enough to bomb a country, but in the west, were this already seems obvious to most people, the priority is reversed: we have to make western citizens understand that NATO financing of fascist groups actually contibuted to the escalation and that it is a relevant element, not to underestimate.
This video, i think, is made from westerners who are against the western ruling class and is directed to a western audience, and for this reason it has certain priorities.
I began thinking about all of this when i noticed that, after 2014, most leftist organizations in Italy (even relatively "moderate" ones) began supporting the LPR and the DPR, while in Russia even hard left groups like the Левый Фронт had a stance of neutrality about the civil war in Ukraine. Since my political activity has been primarly in Italy, i was quite shocked discovering that the Левый Фронт was neutral: i thought "how is this possible? don't they see the EU and USA imperialism? don't they see the nazis? don't they see the spontaneus rebellion of the miners?". Then, i realized that they had a bigger problem out there in Russia: Putin was using the war to create consense around himself, and being Putin and the russian government their N°1 enemy they could not support the DPR and LPR beacause it would have meant to indirectly support Putin, in the context they operated. For us, in Italy, that wasn't a problem: our government tried to say that nostalgic soviet patriotism and ukrainian banderist nationalism were the exact same thing, they fully supported the EU imperialism, they falsely attributed the Odessa's massacre where the pro-russian leftist died to the pro-russian leftist themselves (!) switching victims and executioners in the mass media version of the story, our weapon industry made a lot of dirty money on the blood of innocent Donbass civilians (and media didn't talk about it), they opposed in a fake way western inexistent "democracy" and russian "autocracy" (our countries are much more similar about repression than both their citizens think: in Russia the state is more repressive because the opposition is stronger, but in the few cases were opposition is strong in the western countries, like the NO TAV movement in Val di Susa or the Gilet Jaunes movement in France, the horrible repression is almost the same). In this context for us in Italy not openly supporting DPR and LPR meant indirectly supporting our criminal governments and saying more or less the same things of the mass media: that meant that we, Italy's revolutionaries, had to support them. In Russia, the exact same thing (indirectly supporting government) would have happened by doing the exact opposite: for this reasons, Russia's sincere revolutionaries had to declare themselves neutral.
Sorry for the very long comment, but knowing to a certain extent both countries i often think i can be useful. In general, the main idea is that political positions are always developed in a specific context. In different contextes, different positions about the same thing can be useful and meaningful to the same objective (be it just the end of this terrible war, or be it a communist revolution). This video is aimed at westerners, so it is normal that it seems uncomplete or unjust to a Russian in some ways. It is because of cultural differences and contextes: different propaganda requires different counterpropaganda.
@@savosia499 Thank you for this comment and thank you for sharing your initial thoughts in your comment, OP. As an American I was not aware of much of this despite trying to be informed, so both this video and your comments are extremely helpful.
Think about it... If it feels weird to me as a German and it feels weird to you as a Russian there might actually be something to it xD
I was personally bothered by the fact that past American and British aggression in this video was labeled as "nato" aggression. The alliance is fairly simple, if a member state is attacked, the other member states come to its aid. However there was nothing in the treaties that compelled member states to join the UK and America in the middle east, Africa or the Falklands, to name a few. Nato aggression has never existed, only the imperialist ambitions of individual members.
I very much dislike this political realism. Does Russia have a say in whether Ukraine gets to join the EU or NATO? Is it insignificant what these sovereign countries decide?
Russia invaded Georgia and everyone in the east saw the writing on the wall that Russia can't be trusted.
The point is that the Ukrainians did not have a say in their own political affairs. Yanukovich was overthrown by a US funded and coordinated revolution (look up Nuland-Pyatt phone convo). Zelensky campaigned on a Donbas peace platform, basically promising to sign the Minsk accords, yet then the US intervened and vetoed the signing. In fact there are indications that the US even actively supported and funded the Neo-Nazi battalions fighting in Donbas. Btw western sources report over 6000 ethnic Russian deaths in Donbas since 2014.
Even when Ukraine was actively deciding its own fate, zelensky was about to sign the Istanbul peace talks mediated by Erdogan. The west sent Boris Johnson to turkey to dissuade and prohibit the signing (you can look this up, multiple sources have confirmed this, even Erdogan himself). So my question is: Where is the self determination here?
As a ukrainian I would say that you should not take this video seriously. In case you didn't understand that from first seconds of the video.
Você como ucraniano deveria estudar mais sua própria história, o véu da sua ideologia atrapalha sua visão.
@@herbert6407 I see we have a history smartass over here.
I think for sure you got some points totally fair, it's been a huge batallion between Russian and US's global influence for a long time, and Ukraine was definitely a tool for both at different points of history. But the nazis taking power inside Ukraine bit is kinda overexaggerated in my opinion. As a Ukrainian myself, I definitely saw the rise of nationalism at the time of 2014 revolution, but actual far right nazis never gained any major power inside Ukraine. Azov batallion is a paramilitary group, that has a vocal minority of hard on neo nazis, but they do not represent neither the government or the military of our country. I think that this point about Azov is very overblown in a lot of media right now, discrediting our whole military, as if 90% of them are nazis. Putin also makes this a major point in the reasoning for invasion, pushing this message on their state media.
Another point to remember is that Ukrainian nationalism and resistance to russian culture is natural due to the historical context of Russian influence on Ukraine, especially during USSR, when Ukrainian culture, alongside multiple others, was plundered, our dictionaries were burnt, our people were persuaded, sent to concentration camps and killed. I rarely see anybody mention holodomor, which was a man-made famine manufactured by the USSR in 1932. Nowadays russians themselves often claim they're a superior nation, and that all the murders they commit in neighboring countries are "in defense of russian speaking population" (Funny how exactly all eastern Ukraine, which now are bearing most civilian losses are mostly russian speaking). There can be a ton of discussion on this topic.
One last thing I find factually wrong in your video is the course for NATO membership. Ukrainian government added NATO membership as one of it's major steps of development into constitution three months before Zelensky stepped into office, while Poroshenko was still president. And pretty sure most of the time Minsk ceasefire agreement was violated by both sides, and Ukrainian military had mostly opened fire back as response, as they were pressured not to open fire (Zelensky asked them not to even defend for the sake of the ceasefire, true), while Russia constantly accused our side for the violations and from time to time even denying presence in the region at all. (Which I think makes no sense, why sign a ceasefire in a region you're saying you're not even present at??).
That pretty much sums up my thoughts. Thank you for sharing your perspective
But is there any nazis in Azov?
I don't think i heard anything about any nazis in Ukraine whatsoever
This video really is just a hot take that has veered straight into Russian apologist propaganda.
While I absolutely respect the time and effort he puts into creating these videos and not to say there weren't any honest points being made, this one was a complete miss in my book.
I'm not a Ukranian, but still an Estonian with Ukranian grandparents. This is not to get pity points, but to show that I know what the people on the eastern front think of Russia; not only what they're currently doing but what they've done in the past.
This video really is, like the previous reply also mentioned, sad Russian apologist propaganda - nitpicking irrelevant points just to justify this war is a bit of a stretch. The fact that people are so high from their noble farts that they find reasons to disagree with not only the world, but countless Russians who are crying out to their government and their literal fascist leader to stop the bloodshed says more than I ever could.
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@@Nicolas_Cage525 There are a few nazis, but that shouldn't completely discredit the whole batallion, and especially not the whole country. Plus I'm afraid certain symbolics are seen as nazi, while in reality those symbols existed long before nazi germany used them to idealize their horrible crimes, and had different meanings. But yeah, some media outlets 100% overexaggerate the nazi presence in Ukraine, and I'm oh so tired of that.
@@gregiboi I do agree with you mostly, but I also think he doesn't support nor justify this invasion, just the emphasis makes it seem like that. His words really seem to completely devalue Ukraine, and some points are straight out of Russian propaganda, but then still he calls out Russian government for corruption, murders, illegal detentions, etc. Idk. Maybe this vid is supposed to be viewed with a bit more salt. But in times like these, it truly becomes a 100% validating propaganda for some, and a tone deaf piece of garbage for others.
Ukrainian civilians are effected so much more than anyone else in this :(
They have gotten the shit end of the stick for far to long. 😔
Two evil empires fighting over their country :(
@@patrickkirby6580 one evil empire
Ukraine isn't an evil empire
@@gorbachevspizzahut2809 American
This is a prime example where anti US Colonialism legitimizes Russian Colonialism. Just because the opposition is corrupt will not make Russias federation any better.
I just clicked a funny video about a guy making a .50 cal hammer. How the hell did I ended up here?
the whole video is such oversimplification it lost all resemblance with reality
Leftists like this will always argue that an aggressor like russia is the eternal victim, because they will support any government that opposes the west (even one like russia's, which clearly isn't in line with their beliefs at all). Unfortunate this video got so many upvotes, although they are most likely all from leftists/communists
I would never buy anything you guys promoted, but you would need to watch out for the sponsors influencing or restricting your content, and you'd probably end up on an advertising blacklist if all your sponsors see no purchases through your channel. Worth a try I reckon.
Yeah that's a good point! We wouldn't take on any sponsors if they wanted to change our videos
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
get the money while the getting is good
Have you considered the fact that, the Eastern European countries that joined NATO did so willingly. Almost as if centuries under Russian oppression made them distrustful of their neighbor.
Found Lithuanian.
?? What are you talking about? The americans backed (so meddled) politicians that favoured the americans in these countries. Its the same in ukraine and georgia. Know your history please. They also tried it in belarus. But luhkashenko wasnt to be triffled with and got support from russia as russia and putin where at this point and time regaining control of the situation... cause well.. isnt it strange that ukraine wanted to join nato even though 1/4 of their country turned against them once they rolled out anti russian policies? Idk.. like crimea and the donbass etc. Do these people just fight back just beceause?
Have you listened to the video at all?
@@evobsm2328 I'm Latvian, I know the history of my country, only the Russians tried to meddle in our politics. Most latvians are very pro-NATO, anti-Russia. Stop reading Kremlin propaganda.
@@evobsm2328as if russia literally didnt do the same thing in the middle east and africa, supporting dictators and their regimes. you are so out of touch with reality bro i live in a post soviet satelite state and of course us is a total shithole conrtolling the world but at least i can say that freely and not end up in prison. this isnt some fucking game look how people live under russia funding dictators and how people live under us i choose this every election so shut the fuck up and go touch grass omg
'Full of stength,' abducting children and murdering countless civilians.
I wonder how many political comments had to be removed for the comment section to look like this lol
very little im guessing, if any
@@dempseyf_5118 Really? I would think that there would be tons of comments talking about the politics of this video (whether agreeing or disagreeing) but everything on top of the most popular comments is just about sponsorships
@@quarkonium3795 Yeah there is clearly a semi censorship on the comment section.
Where are your sources? I want to know where I can find the info you used in here.
Watch Richard Medhurst and Scott Ritter for analysis. Patrick Lancaster, Anne-Laure Bonnel, Eva Bertlett for ground reports. Hope this helps!
You can find it in russian propaganda, and a bit of memes.
I'll pop the sources in the description
@@lemonbrother2700 everything challenging the western mainstream narrative is evil russian propaganda
@@Boy_Boy 👍
I have good friend fighting over in Ukraine. Hie grandfather was a partisan in ww2 who fought against the soviets and then fought against the nazis when they came in. He was basically one of the guys who didn't care who it was: if you were trying to take over Ukraine, he'd kick your ass
Ok
im sure thats what his grandfather told him.
yeah sure
So he was a Nazi. Right.
Yes and the Israel Hamas war was also avoidable if Iran hadn’t given Palestinians weapons👀
And the war before that would be avoided if israel wasnt forced on palestinian lands
@@DasArtyom you mean if jews werent allowed to purchase land from palestinians causing a palestinian uprising against the jews resulting in the rest?
@@DasArtyomyes but we’re ignoring old context for Ukraine and only blaming the ppl that gave them weapons here so just staying consistent
I mean I get your point but, this seems suspiciously like tankie talking points about the war.
It is. Look at his history and his mentions on social media. Tankies and actual open fashies are his audience.
@@Charagrin Damn, I liked these boys
He's a tankie. In one his videos he tried to justify how North Korean prison labor camps aren't actually that bad, because other countries have prisons
So the flag in the back wasn't your first hint? 😂
Oh yes, everyone I don't like is a tankie. Couldn't be a nuanced take on geo politics ....
I wonder where you got this idea?
Pedo_file Vau$h?
That's odd that top comments focus on sponsorship.
That's very odd yes, I see only comment about those adds plus they gets thousands of likes.
Yeah it’s kinda annoying nobody talks about what happened
political comments probably getting censored by YT
They're probably botting.
Probably z bots
Oh it so nice from you, trying to justify the most brutal war in Europe since ww2
I dont think its wrong for Ukraine and the ex soviet bloc countries to want to join nato.. i mean we abandoned them in WW2 to be swallowed up by Stalin and forced into the ussr for decades, we do kind of owe them, military brinkmanship aside. Putin doesnt HAVE to go rogue. Nato and american imperialism has legions of problems, obviously, that's a different issue haha
Abandoned them? What are you talking about?
33% of the red army was Ukrainian. You'd be killing Ukranians to stop them from being "swallowed up by Stalin".
@@Boy_Boystop pretending like you're interested in protecting Ukrainians after this disgraceful vatnik propaganda laden video
@@Boy_BoyEstonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Belarusians, Hungarians, Slovaks, Romanians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis and others I probably forgot want to have a talk with you.
@@Boy_Boy this is so fun, ignoring the fact you seem to actually believe putin and the oligarchs would somehow not have happened without us interference, you have lied about:
- the iron curtain, it was NOT a "safety buffer", just the demarcation line between those who were invaded by the USSR and those who kept their sovereignty
-NO ONE HAS EVER promised in any official capacity to the soviets that NATO would not expend into eastern Europe, disagree with me? show me the documents no scholar seems to be able to find
- Kennan made those comments at a more hopeful time for russian democracy. russian nationalism was not stoked by the extension of NATO, it has always been there. what are you talking about?
-russia has been trying to join NATO since it's inception, this was not a conciliatory move by putin, merely the continuation of a long standing foreign policy stance that has absolutely nothing to do with keeping peaceful relations with it's neighbors
-is the neo-n@zi situation in Ukraine troubling? yes. are there neo-n@zis in seperatist and russian forces? yes. should ukraine have stopped these people from fighting a war that was forced on them? they did not have a choice. does any of this have anything to do with the fact that putin just needed an excuse for war? no.
-Ukrainians are caught in a war for their right to exist, nothing else.
-those articles of written for the World Socialist Web are not only terribly written, but are clearly talking about measures Zelenskyy took during an escalating civil war to curtail russian influence on a already teetering democracy, ideal? no. context needed? yes.
-Ukraine has been "Beginning talks" on NATO membership for decades now, its a political stunt, not some seismic change that warranted a reaction
-you don't just join NATO and the EU, it takes decades. these are not organisations that you can just join in the midst of a civil war that russian has its hands in. Ukraine was not manipulated into becoming a battlefield, where are you getting this stuff?
i absolutely hate to be a cliche, but you sir, are a tankie
please stick to comparing the us prison system with Korean concentration camps, you were doing such a good job of it.
@@leviosssa5843 how is the counter offensive going on 😂😂😂
This video also overlooks Putin's (and the Russian government's) openly imperialist ambitions.
If he was that hungry for Ukraine, he would've invaded you a long time ago. He wouldn't even bothered to put up a puppet.
This whole shit show started when Zelensky bragged about joining NATO and felt for the yankee trap.
@@dukegremory_antichrist he did invade in 2014
@@rettwat You made the point for me though. Yes he invaded and only took a small piece of Ukraine....AFTER the pro-russian people there begged him for intervening. Your dear fascist friends had the glorious idea to terrorise the east regions.
there's no such thing.
Our country's budget and population already stretched thin over existing territory.
I see what your other comments are “NATO is defensive” yeah right buddy
Wow you just went full tankie
at what point?
@@OfficialIfunny Read some more comments and you will find out.
2:34 what the fuck does a pool and a signature of a Russian president has to do with the breakup of USSR? Boris came into power AFTER the breakup of USSR. Dissolve of the Soviet state was a result of resistance from multiple countries from within USSR, spearheaded by the Baltic states. To put all this under an american 5d chess move and a single signature of a Russian president is insulting.
portions of this video seemingly displayed as fact seem misinformed or disingenuous
Like wtf? Go into your browser and look it up. 6 Months after Boris jelcin got elected the udssr split.
What resistance? Yeltsin became president of russia before the fall and the tiny baltics do not have even the power to collapse the largest country in the world?
You morons, sfsr of russia apart of the ussr had presidents boris yeltsin along with the ukrainian and belarusian dissolved it ignoring the 77% vote.
This is highly missleading. I'd like to see sources for this.
Sources are in the video description, have a look.
I just wish he’d show the full clip of Biden
I don't know what's funnier: watching a bunch of your videos with the absurd, mocking ad reads and then finding out you outright told everyone not to buy the shit in the first place, or seeing that in spite of all the violence etc. this video still didn't get demonetized, yay hahha
Great job as always boys
this video is bullshit misinformation. NATO never promised not to expand "east". that was a reference specifically to EAST GERMANY. propaganda, you've been deceived.
wtf, nazis on the maidan? really ? i was there, that`s a lie.
Yup. It's fact.
"I was there" source: My cousin told me.
I love most of your videos but this is some serious bullshit right here.
I think while your video brilliantly points out how unnecessary this war is and how this should have never happened, it also in some parts is a bit sensational and simplistic, as @Obimike already pointed out. I'd like to add to that because in my opinion your video fails to acknowledge the reason why many Eastern European states joined NATO.
The Russian Federation is not as powerful as its predecessor, the USSR. From Russia's point of view, the collapse of the USSR and the Warsaw pact hast robbed them of their past glory. This revisionist historical understanding paired with their great military force - that never misses out on an opportunity to engage in some saber-rattling along the Russian border - threatens the independence and integrity of countries like Poland, Baltic States and now Ukraine. In a way, Russia pushed its neighboring countries into the arms of NATO with their quest to regain dominance in the region. No matter how the Eastern European countries have been connected to Russia in the past. Their independence is now indisputable, and they have the right to choose their alliances freely and if this alliance is NATO, then so be it.
I don't want to say that NATO and this West in general made no political mistakes in the past. Of course, their actions have played a huge role in creating this mess, and I don't want to play this down. But hey, who could have thought that humiliating and degrading the biggest country in the world with access to thousands of nuclear weapons, a more and more dictatorial structure and a huge wish to regain their former power and glory could lead to such a situation...
They're surrounded by NATO bases, for Russia this is a matter of survival. Doesn't take long looking into the history of NATO and the fact all top positions were manned by previous nazi officers to see what their view of imperialist expansion is. Even now that Russia isn't communist there's enough positive sentiment about the ussr to keep NATO on mission. This video leaves out that Russia annexed a country that democratically voted in favour of it.
@@TalynStormcrow so can you tell me which imperialistic expansions NATO has done?
@@TalynStormcrow Survival? Maybe stop threatening and invading your neighbors and then they won't feel like protecting themselves by aligning with the opposition. Were neighboring states going to invade Russia and massacre thousands and displace millions? Unless that was a 100% certainty, then Russia doing that very thing to Ukraine are not justified.
@@hueban1643 Libya comes to mind also didya forget the worst imperialist of all time - the US is part of NATO?
@@u-will-begin-2-cough-in-3-days lybia was approved by the un security council which at the time both russia and china were veto able permanent members who claim to be opposing us imperialism but did nothing in this case when they could have. Also calling the us "the worst imperialist in history" is pretty uninformed on what that history contains
I don't disagree with you, but you should have a segment about what "expanding NATO" actually means. Officially, a country can only join NATO voluntarily. Unofficially, there's all kinds of political grooming going on behind the scenes but then the Russian Federation does the exact same thing, so really our boy Boris is complaining that his espionage and diplomancy wing isn''t as good as the West's or he's claiming that it isn't fair that his victims don't want to be invaded.
FIrst a country joins the NATO then it can join the EU.
NATO didn't "expand" into our country. We joined it voluntarily so we could have some protection in case the Russians decided to invade again.
@@bacilluscereus1299 6 members of EU are not members of NATO.
@@williamcurtis2145 Russia did not, the U.S, since the U.S started this war in 2014, by putting Poroshenko in power, coup detat'
Countries tend to join NATO so as not to be annexed by Russia. Finland wasn't "aggressively expanded" into NATO. They joined because apparently Russia doesn't give a shit about national sovereignty now.
Classic revisionism. That the transition from the USSR to the Russian Republic sucked big time is historical fact. To blame it all on the US, say that most people wanted to remain in the USSR when the other countries declared independence UNILATERALLY, and blame the US for expanding NATO when it is done on a purely VOLUNTARY BASIS, is simply old style revisionism.
By saying this not only are you rewriting history to cast Russia in a favorable light, but you’re also denying the independence of all of those « buffer states ». If Ukraine wants to join NATO, who ought to stop them? If Lithuania wants to join NATO, who ought to stop them? If they independently decide to join an alliance of nations dedicated to DEFENSE, who ought to stop them? And why were they joining to begin with? Oh yeah that’s right, because of RUSSIA. Because one country has gotten back to threatening its neighbors, funding black flag operations in neighboring regions, and now invading an independent nation.
In 1936, the same rewriting of history that russian chills are doing now was done for a different man. It didn’t turn out well.
I'm surprised this wasn't taken down for "misinformation/ terms of use"
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nah you can find all kinds of sht on youtube@@herbert6407
@@herbert6407lmao
YT probably no longer cares as Ukraine is becoming another conflict of the similar kind (Syria, Lybya, Jordan, Sudan, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan and etc. and etc.). People are already tired of this. It's like COVID19. It goes up, and down. It went full bollocks, when conspiracy theories became the truth :D. And no one believes now what Fauci has to say.
You should definitely do sponsorships! We need more videos, they’re absolutely amazing. This is definitely my favorite channel on youtube and more people need to see this channel.
YES!
Thanks for giving us the bravery to sell out!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
Any other similar yotube channel that you would recommend?
Trogdor you should check out Second Thought. It isn’t as comedic but it’s a good channel and they cover similar topics. And if you haven’t already you should watch contrapoints because she’s great.
Yeah man, I'm with the other leftists here who think you got this one wrong.
Left/right does not matter here, from a European POV. He's just wrong, unless you are a Russian imperialist.
NATO exists to keep The Kremlin from running roughshod over all of their neighboring countries as they have done for hundreds of years. It's a defensive organization. Any country that has been ruled by Moscow in the past wants to avoid it at all costs in the future. This is true to such an extent that we are willing to die to save our countrymen from suffering that fate again.
@@I-0-0-I still telling the people that one side does not get up to the same shenanigans is just wrong
What’s your solution then?
@@harryrichards8972 the side fighting a fascist invasion of their country needs all the support it can get for as long as it needs it. Appeasement never works
@@MightyGachiman That's not what he's doing. He's paying lip service to the idea Russia is bad, and then justifying their invasion with lies. If you want to talk about the crimes of western countries there is plenty of examples.
So your saying its NATO's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine?
the classic domestic abuser catchphrase "look what you made me do"
Let me ask you another question based on your logic Saddam Hussain made USA invade Iraq because he refused to show that he disarmed.
Virtually every nation committing aggression will concoct a narrative that claims their hand was forced.
Do you not remember how long Russia flat out denied it would invade? Only after the invasion took place did we hear all these made-up reasons for the invasions.
Think about it for one second, why did the countries in Eastern Europe want to join NATO ? It's not like American takes rolled into Poland and forced them to join NATO.
Joining NATO for Ukraine was a deeply unpopular idea in Ukraine until Russia invaded 2014. Even after the Maidan revolution which had nothing to do with NATO membership, the new government publicly stated they had no intention of joining NATO but this didn't stop Russia from invading and occupying Crimea and parts of Donbass.
In fact, Ukraine was neutral until December 2014 after roughly 8 months of war in the Donbass.
It was Russian aggression in the form of a full-scale invasion, not NATO expansion, which made previously neutral Finland and Sweden to join on their own volition. Russian aggression is what makes NATO expand.
For example, let's look at the Baltic states as an example, Putin could easily carve out exclave from any of those small countries to create yet another frozen conflict. So why hasn't Putin done it?
Because NATO. Because attacking any of those small three countries means Putin is now at war with 30 countries (now 32)
With one of those countries being the biggest military power on the planet.
That right there is the real reason Putin hates Nato, not because it's a threat but because it limits Putin from intimidating and controlling Russia's neighbour's with military force.
Putin has to treat Estonia like a real sovereign country, which is anathema to the imperialist mindset that dominates Russian society and its leadership.
Putin has created this alternate universe where countries voluntary joining a defensive alliance is imperialist expansion while flat out invading another sovereign country after decades of political intervention and annexing its territory under the justification that it used to be part of your Empire is somehow not imperialist but even portrayed as resisting imperialism/ a defensive action
"Nato is not a threat to Russian security, just Russian imperialism,"
"Think about it for one second, why did the countries in Eastern Europe want to join NATO ? It's not like American takes rolled into Poland and forced them to join NATO"
It's the other way around actually 😅 Poles blackmailed the US to let themselves in.
Exactly! If Nato wanted to attack and destroy Russia, why would they wait for the Russian economy and government to recover after the collapse of the UdSSR. Why wait for Russia to militarize and organise?
You're a great storyteller, man...but I don't believe that Ukraine is the bad guy like you seem to insinuate in this video, and Zelensky's government didn't have any major problems with governing the country before Russia invaded Ukraine. I don't believe you framed this in the right way, but I really can appreciate how well you put everything together
That's fair, I certainly had no intention of portraying Ukraine as the bad guy, they're the most sympathetic actor in the whole conflict. I just don't think they had much of a choice in the struggle between the US and Russia.
@@Boy_Boy that's incredibly dehumanizing.
It's like saying "they're not humans, they're puppets".
@@arthurvyater656 right... It's not the geopolitical superpowers that are dehumanizing smaller countries, it's the person who points that relationship out.
@@Boy_Boy doubling down I see.
I used to like this channel, what a disappointment you are.
@@Boy_Boy I don't agree with you at all about this subject, but it's okay. By the way, you should have made Alex get pinched by the crab, too. That was bullshit that you stepped up to the plate like that to get pinched and he didn't. I was expecting him to be like, okay, since you got pinched it's my turn, but that didn't happen. I'm still pissed from when I saw him break your rib when you were sparring with him. I think he fucked you up in some other way around the same time, too. I get that he's your best mate so you probably never thought much about that and there's no grudges held, of course, but seriously...he should have been pinched
If you're talking about the recent history of Ukraine and you focus on the influence of the US then you can't gloss over the influence of Russia or the foreign policies of European countries.
Doing that makes you appear biased which can backfire very quickly.
The story of Ukraine can not be told by only bringing up Russia and the US.
Yeah the Adam something video critiquing the gravel institute and also the destiny one on being wrong about NATO poke all the holes through the it's NATO idea
Agreed. Trump was conveniently left out of all this...
The world is run by monsters that want your attention.
@@Sx-xy2zi adam something and destiny are liberals
@@freelance_commie Now THAT is something I never imagined to see written in a comment
As a eastern European i though this trough out the entire video. The Russian influence on Warsaw pact countries was horrible. I just don't think this video was done well. I get that he's a communist but taking a side of Russia in this feud is absurd.
How about the Ukrainians that don’t want to be Russian. They weren’t always Russian and should be stuck being Russian just because Putin has a dream to recreate the Soviet days
his video addresses the innocent ukrainians.
@@GraysonDyed in a super biased manner. Mentioned and addressed aren’t the same. His videos are dripping with satire. Just surprised how Pro Russian it is. Ukraine is a sovereign country and they should have to become Russia to avoid a war.
No, he newer said this.
As a sovereign country you should read political situation, like what happens if I invite those guys with big missiles to sit near my other neighbor, who after ww2 has trauma and don't want to have direct border with potential enemies
@@Bob-fs1ie Well, the USSR created this "trauma" and "direct border" by razing the "buffer zone" that was standing between them in the form of a sovereign country. So yeah, it's a "careful what you wish for" type of scenario.
I don't understand why people can't just agree that both Russia and the US are pieces of shit in this situation.
@@Bob-fs1ie poor traumatised Russia, who had less casualties per capita than Ukraine, had less territory as a percentage taken than Ukraine, and suffered under nazi occupation per capita less than Ukraine.
Putin’s request to join NATO came with ridiculous conditions and could not have been accepted. Putin knew this, his intent was not to join NATO, but to paint them as the ones refusing negotiations
I tried searching for those conditions, but couldn't find anything. Do you have sources?
It's not unbelievable what you're saying, but the source on this is needed. It's a good long-term PR trick if the Russians did that if they never intended to stop considering themselves a great empire.
However on the other side Russia was certainly a defeated nation who didn't want to engage in grand geopolitics in 1990-05 factually speaking, it's believable that they wanted good relations with the West and stay away from conflict back then - US imperial and murderous behaviour around the world pushing Russia to become a proactive, ruthless empire again fearing they might become the next Iraq or Libya one day.
As a Ukrainian living in Australia, I feel compelled to clarify some misleading and potentially harmful information presented in this video regarding Ukrainians.
The video distorts the historical context of Ukrainian collaboration with the Nazis. Although it correctly mentions that only "some Ukrainians" collaborated, the narrative misleadingly suggests that such collaboration was widespread and that Nazi ideologies were supported and "celebrated" by Ukrainians at large.
This exaggeration is akin to saying Australia is a communist country because its largest trading partner is China, implying that Australians support modern Chinese concentration camps and the genocide of Uighurs. While Australia does trade with China for national interests, it does not endorse their policies.
During World War II, small group of activists in Ukraine saw collaboration with Nazi Germany as a strategic move to gain independence from Soviet Russia, not as an endorsement of Nazi ideologies. While this still constitutes collaboration, it hardly indicates agreement with Nazi beliefs. Moreover, the Germans rejected the Ukrainian proclamation of independence, and the movement's leader was arrested by the Gestapo.
Neo-Nazism in Ukraine is a separate, modern phenomenon. The video inaccurately portrays it as a major political force, while in reality, it is a fringe movement with views not widely shared by the broader Ukrainian society.
Lastly, the video misrepresents Ukraine as divided between Russians in the East and Ukrainians in the West. All residents are Ukrainian, with the eastern half being Russian-speaking-a result of Soviet colonial policies, similar to French-speaking regions in Canada. To label these regions as "French people parts" would be misleading, just as it is incorrect to label Eastern Ukraine as "Russian."
Thanks, as much as I like BoyBoy's videos, I feel like they often exaggerate (whether on accident or purpose) certain aspects, which can lead to spreading misinformation. This should be pinned if I'm being honest.
@@okarthegreat I hoenstly think its his rhetoric on America that's giving off this weird sort of anti-west sort of thing hes got going on. As much as i love his north korea video i just cant agree with his takes.
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Your bias towards not admitting the large amount of nazis in Ukraine is understandable, but false.
Regardless, it’s not a reason to invade another country. Every EU nation has nazis. Doesnt mean its up for grabs.
@@Facerip no it's not false at all, there are literally no "large amount of nazis" in Ukraine, there are far more in Germany, France and Italy, than in Ukraine
bruh this vid is like political and stuff but the top comments shown are all about "the sponsorship" 💀💀💀💀💀
that's because the average viewer of this channel doesn't care about the reality of politics, they just like a surrogate friend who tells them what they want to hear so they can feel good, this channel is a hugbox like almost every "political" channel on youtube
@@catfacecat2848 what a shame.