Trying to game on the Least Powerful "Video Card" on Amazon

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  • čas přidán 29. 05. 2020
  • #worst #graphicscard #amazon
    I found what I am convinced is the worst "Video card" that you can buy on Amazon.com
    I then tried to game on it.
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  • @ahmedst290
    @ahmedst290 Před 4 lety +3573

    This makes a GT 710 good graphics card.

    • @xbyxenos3200
      @xbyxenos3200 Před 4 lety +311

      *A ultimate beast**

    • @mattc3239
      @mattc3239 Před 4 lety +256

      Gt 710 is a great card. I have one in an emulation machine and it handles old games perfectly

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +377

      I know right. 😂

    • @Rapscallion2009
      @Rapscallion2009 Před 4 lety +187

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff yes - GT 710 isn't "bad" hardware. It's just really basic and cheap. But if you're not gaming and just want a video adaptor, it's ideal. Or if you're retro-gaming, Or just playing low-demand games it's fine.
      It's like arguing the Dacia Sandero shouldn't exist because the BMW 3 series is much better and everyone should just buy one of those.

    • @phaztheaussiebastard
      @phaztheaussiebastard Před 4 lety +27

      it makes my old riva 128zx a beast

  • @Kundalini12
    @Kundalini12 Před 4 lety +3735

    Dawid: *buys worst video card
    Seller: Yay, some idiot bought it.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +525

      Hahaha!! I am sure that is exactly how it goes. 😂

    • @LorenzoPiaggio
      @LorenzoPiaggio Před 4 lety +34

      Nice 69

    • @psychoticgiraffe
      @psychoticgiraffe Před 4 lety +31

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff also, I did actually find a card worse than this on amazon, however, its extremely expensive and comes in the retail box www.amazon.com/MATROX-MGA-MIL-2N-MILLENNIUM-Matrox-MGA-MIL-2N-PCI-Video-Card-C196/dp/B016YK4ZK0/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=2mb+video+card&qid=1591122674&s=pc&sr=1-2
      it looks like it would probably only make sense for a windows 3.1/95 pc, it has 3d acceleration believe it or not

    • @psychoticgiraffe
      @psychoticgiraffe Před 4 lety +10

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff heres a video showing what turok looks like on this extremely early 3d accelerator that amazon somehow still has czcams.com/video/7qgMkWTnf4Y/video.html

    • @nicholasjoseph9062
      @nicholasjoseph9062 Před 4 lety +19

      *starts high fiving each other*

  • @AcidDaBomb
    @AcidDaBomb Před 3 lety +443

    I spent 10 minutes of my life, watching a video on a GPU that I would never buy. Not only would I never buy it, I would never consider it, nor would I even look for it or even know it exists.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety +12

      nothing speaks weak ass video card like a pci slot which no modern day pc comes with those old pos slots anymore

    • @estuaco
      @estuaco Před rokem +11

      I bought it this card, 22 years ago!!!

    • @Just_Robbe
      @Just_Robbe Před rokem +4

      10 mins and ONE SECOND!!

    • @the_motherfucker
      @the_motherfucker Před rokem

      @@raven4k998 That's where you're wrong, PCI may not be as common as it was in the 90's and 2000's but there are still modern motherboards with it

    • @johnnylego807
      @johnnylego807 Před rokem +1

      That’s the whole point….. this video is entertainment

  • @repatch43
    @repatch43 Před rokem +80

    Used to work for ATI many years after this card came out, and found we were still selling tons of them (along with the Rage128). I asked around how this was possible, we had FAR better graphics chipsets at the time (Radeon 9700 and newer), and yet were still fabbing these things.
    The answer was simple: servers. Many servers of the day used these chips as basic graphics chips to drive the local VGA connector.
    I wouldn't be surprised if a not much newer successor was being used even today for VGA out on servers.

    • @TheSliderW
      @TheSliderW Před 5 měsíci +1

      I confirm.
      I worked for a company that had racks of servers with this king of cheapo video card just to get a console to display on an rack monted screen nearby. Some also had vga to rj45 converters, presumably for remote kvm access. Tons of ewaste when they upgraded a few years back.

    • @gregdaweson4657
      @gregdaweson4657 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ltt showed an m.2 gpu for this purpose.

    • @videogamerNattie98
      @videogamerNattie98 Před 5 měsíci

      A modern day commercial equivalent would be a Headless plug Its a plug where there is no cord its just a plug with a video processor so you can out put a digital display that can be sent to a device to moderate it. Of course that's if its a device/server with its own built in GPU, as modern Day Graphics Cards do not have the option to output a digital display on there own. So a plug is needed to. If its not then its going to be a weak economic GPU/A Reclaimed GPU. Where your getting it to drive the server terminals and nothing more in which case any GPU even one pulled from older devices like old/broken laptops, and computers in theory can be wired to stand in to serve that purpose.

    • @masterkamen371
      @masterkamen371 Před 2 měsíci

      But it doesn't make sense even for that purpose anymore. The GT 210 has a D-sub connector and it can be had for like $20 new with a guarantee that it works.
      The old 2D cards are just too old. They cannot even run a modern GUI properly.
      Besides, modern server boards have a very basic onboard SoC that handles the VGA output and all the remote access and what not. So there is no need for a GPU at all in the system.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Před měsícem +1

      Yep, I assume that these are for servers or retrocomputers. The retrocomputers that want the real experience of gaming without the best possible technology of the time.

  • @Techranology
    @Techranology Před 4 lety +1011

    You will be full of “Rage XL” when this gives you low FPS in your games

  • @OzTalksHW
    @OzTalksHW Před 4 lety +910

    9:24 Don't tempt me now 😏

    • @Seatux
      @Seatux Před 4 lety +31

      Temp Phil from Philscomputerlab instead. The card seems to be a fit with a Pentium II or lower system running Win 98.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +112

      I would love to see what you come up with. 😂

    • @marctorres7182
      @marctorres7182 Před 4 lety +4

      What? Not a single S3 Trio or Virge on Amazon?

    • @VSGJOE
      @VSGJOE Před 4 lety +2

      @oztalkshw now buys 10 and ads to an old EMachine and attempts to run Doom.

    • @TheGodOfAllThatWas
      @TheGodOfAllThatWas Před 4 lety +3

      @@marctorres7182 That's what I was thinking, I actually tried to check this! There are a few... But for some reason they're like $100+ which is a surprise to me....

  • @Nareimooncatt
    @Nareimooncatt Před 2 lety +34

    I'm just impressed at the ability to use the VGA cable to support the card as you wave it around.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 3 měsíci

      yes, it can be done but it's not pretty.🤣🤣🤣

  • @bradcr152
    @bradcr152 Před 3 lety +104

    I remember being happy to get this card 😂 it was far better than the S3 Trio64+ we had in the Pentium 166MHz

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem +5

      yeah well amazon does not sell that s3 trio so yeah🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @hakimmohamad6216
      @hakimmohamad6216 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It's probably a killer unit for retro gaming...

  • @gamingbehemothx999
    @gamingbehemothx999 Před 4 lety +257

    CZcams after recommending dozens of 10000$ builds and showing me how bad my pc is
    Here you go you can take a break now

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +42

      That is what I like to do. CZcams is hard on a PC's self-esteem sometimes.

    • @farmerman651
      @farmerman651 Před 2 lety +1

      I dont even have a pc lol

  • @jeffreypaul9428
    @jeffreypaul9428 Před 4 lety +615

    I'm not buying a new motherboard just for this card Dawid.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +167

      You mean an old motherboard. 😋

    • @lko2181cp
      @lko2181cp Před 4 lety +7

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah, that...

    • @ChrisD__
      @ChrisD__ Před 3 lety +3

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff The Optiplex 990 has a PCI slot everything but the front IO is standard.

    • @smeezekitty
      @smeezekitty Před 3 lety +4

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff I have a Haswell motherboard with a PCI slot. Barely old

    • @amvymavy
      @amvymavy Před 3 lety

      I have a PCI slot on my motherboard, it's a motherboard from HP pre-build, Foxconn 17A0

  • @chrisrudi7162
    @chrisrudi7162 Před rokem +14

    This card is not intended for gaming, but for servers and industrial systems. The Matrox G200 is also still being produced and is used in industry and servers. These cards and chips from back then are robust, energy-saving and have proven themselves. So you can still buy them.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 7 měsíci

      Who cares?

    • @lainwired3946
      @lainwired3946 Před 7 měsíci +9

      ​@@everythingponyhe says, in the comments section of a video of a youtube video criticising a video card from the late 90s by 2023 standards 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 Před 24 dny

      This card was intended for games....over 20 years ago...

    • @chrisrudi7162
      @chrisrudi7162 Před 24 dny

      @@drunkhusband6257 The original Rage 128 was already usable for gaming in this era. But not this new replica. Doesn't even work in 5V PCI slots and is therefore useless for many vintage PCs. Unless you modify the graphics card, which will overwhelm most laypeople.

  • @Bigbacon
    @Bigbacon Před 3 lety +11

    my first GPU was a 4mb rage pro....and it turned my gaming world upside down and I never looked back to console. Jedi Knight @ 800x600 (might have been 1024x768) was mind blowing.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 3 měsíci

      I love how the hard drive being faulty is probably why windows xp would not install it was like nope nope I hate that drive.🤣🤣

  • @isaiahpeterson6134
    @isaiahpeterson6134 Před 3 lety +416

    Plays minesweeper with this card, clicks mine, card explodes

  • @eirinym
    @eirinym Před 4 lety +311

    I can't wait to try 1640:320 resolution 👀

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +52

      Oh crap did I make a Typo? 😱

    • @TheGodOfAllThatWas
      @TheGodOfAllThatWas Před 4 lety +26

      Honestly I feel like that might be the res of the apple touchbar thing

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing Před 3 lety +5

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff 14:40 more like a speak-o

    • @pineapplevlogs1267
      @pineapplevlogs1267 Před 3 lety +11

      @@TheGodOfAllThatWas It is 2170x60 lol

    • @TheGodOfAllThatWas
      @TheGodOfAllThatWas Před 3 lety +3

      @@pineapplevlogs1267 So if my math is right about 4 apple touchbars. Or maybe more like 5 in letterbox.

  • @irondragon9775
    @irondragon9775 Před 3 lety +24

    Intel HD graphics: finally an opponent I can beat

    • @KiddyParkerz
      @KiddyParkerz Před 2 lety +3

      Intel hd will be rtx 3090 sli to this

    • @Birdman._.
      @Birdman._. Před 2 lety +2

      HD graphics beat gt 710:) dude

    • @KiddyParkerz
      @KiddyParkerz Před 2 lety

      @@Birdman._. ati rage xl is worse than nvidia first gpu i think lol

    • @the_motherfucker
      @the_motherfucker Před rokem +1

      Because Intel HD is much newer, it was first introduced in the late 2000's while this GPU was released in 1998

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Před měsícem +1

      @@KiddyParkerz I thought he had managed to get his hands on an Intel i740. Those were by far the worst graphics cards ever made. I take it that there were none on Amazon though.

  • @Gonbatfire
    @Gonbatfire Před 3 lety +4

    Omfg i actually had this card back in like 2017 in an old server i found in the trash, i remember searching for W7 drivers and seeing these 10 year old threads (2008) already calling this card old and obsolete lmaoo

  • @Hecor._.
    @Hecor._. Před 3 lety +186

    Me: “Mom can we get graphics card?”
    Mom: “no we have graphics card at home.”
    Graphics card at home:

    • @palashdutta382
      @palashdutta382 Před 3 lety +2

      So ur mom is cruel

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety +3

      @@palashdutta382 could be worse she could get you a brand new pci ATI Rage XL with a whopping 8megs of vram

    • @mleise8292
      @mleise8292 Před rokem +10

      @@raven4k998 Mom: "You said, at least 8 megabytes!" Kid: "No, not megabytes, gigabytes" Mom: "Mega, Giga, what's the difference anyways?"

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem +3

      @@mleise8292 mom there's a huge difference!!!!!!!!

    • @samuellourenco1050
      @samuellourenco1050 Před rokem +1

      Another joke at home.

  • @Felix-ve9hs
    @Felix-ve9hs Před 4 lety +147

    0:24 there is no such GPU as a "GT 210" - only a "GeForce 210" :^)

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +46

      Haha!! GeForce means it's good.

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle Před 3 lety +14

      It's commonly gotten known as GT210, so take it as a colloquial term more than it's actual name

    • @JoEx2k11
      @JoEx2k11 Před 3 lety +12

      Well, I have one and the box says "GeForce G210", so it's half way 😂

    • @Eaglesky1
      @Eaglesky1 Před 3 lety +1

      I had both of them back in the day.. : ) .. Thi GT 710 and this one..

    • @gentuxable
      @gentuxable Před 3 lety +1

      It should be called GTFO 210 TBH edition.

  • @Mrhellacat
    @Mrhellacat Před 2 lety +3

    The rage XL was pretty popular for servers for a long time way into the 2000s and still has a lot of support on many OSes. Id assume that's why its still for sale on major retailers.

  • @gamamew
    @gamamew Před 3 lety +6

    That's the type of video card you get for free on a Choco Krispis cereal box.

  • @Photography_With_Peter
    @Photography_With_Peter Před 3 lety +341

    Litteraly most of the schools:
    "I'll take your entire stock"

    • @rawnakjahan2448
      @rawnakjahan2448 Před 3 lety +6

      I igpu will be cheaper so schools love cheapness

    • @ua7521
      @ua7521 Před 3 lety +8

      @@rawnakjahan2448 rockin the celerons and core 2 duos

    • @Likeusb1
      @Likeusb1 Před 3 lety +1

      Schools don't need gaming systems and they have a budget so they save money here and there

    • @rawnakjahan2448
      @rawnakjahan2448 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ua7521 just like me

    • @gamelover3558
      @gamelover3558 Před 3 lety +1

      Na they won't spoil us with a beast card.

  • @Phoenix_SW20
    @Phoenix_SW20 Před 4 lety +76

    I was cleaning out my attic and found an ATi Mach 64 from 1995. It pretty much had the same purpose as this Rage XL. Just a 2D accelerator. According to Techpowerup it runs on a 600nm process with 1 pixel shader and 1 ROP. Ultimate gaming power!

    • @FusionC6
      @FusionC6 Před 3 lety +7

      Lol, techpowerup is horrible site. The ATi Mach 64 had neither of those things. LOL

    • @youmukonpaku1337
      @youmukonpaku1337 Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@FusionC6techpowerup is fine

    • @FusionC6
      @FusionC6 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@youmukonpaku1337 if you like incorrect information, then sure?

    • @youmukonpaku1337
      @youmukonpaku1337 Před 8 měsíci

      @@FusionC6 show me the incorrect information then :) techpowerup is much more trustable than most review sites, especially with audio

    • @KatMinty
      @KatMinty Před 4 měsíci

      HOLY FUCKING SHIT, DON'T BURN YOUR HANDS!!

  • @PsyJoeTV
    @PsyJoeTV Před 3 lety +1

    I honestly have no idea why I keep fucking binging your videos. But it's honestly the best XD

  • @gentuxable
    @gentuxable Před 3 lety +5

    Nobody in 1998 said: Got my new Rage XL, love the framerate boost in Rogue.

  • @elliothunter2579
    @elliothunter2579 Před 4 lety +109

    The fact that at first i screamed "What, a GT 710" at first was not lost on me lol

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +6

      😁

    • @jamesmiddleton4741
      @jamesmiddleton4741 Před 4 lety +2

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff ibrun a GTX 260 maxcore oc as my card XD and it run my set of games great

    • @jamesmiddleton4741
      @jamesmiddleton4741 Před 4 lety +2

      Like Minecraft

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 3 lety +4

      While mentioning the GT 710 I instantly thought there is the 210 and that thing is worse.... Then the 210 got mentioned. But saying it's even lower I expected something like a Radeon 9200 or Matrox G400 or Geforce 4 MX 440

  • @mrmerlin6287
    @mrmerlin6287 Před 3 lety +115

    Your XP endeavours may have been hindered by the use of SATA drives. You might have needed to check whether your bios chipset instructions were set to IDE mode and not AHCI mode.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety +2

      and you thought you couldn't buy products from 1998 new on amazon you thought wrong kid

    • @xys007
      @xys007 Před 2 lety

      He could have installed Windows XP in virtual machine and then instal drivers.

    • @addyarmstrong5946
      @addyarmstrong5946 Před rokem

      Makes sense

    • @Zerbey
      @Zerbey Před rokem +2

      That, or just not using an SP3 image. SP3 was a little more stable when it came to fancy SATA devices.

    • @randomgamingin144p
      @randomgamingin144p Před rokem

      you need easy2boot dpms if you want to install windows xp with usb on ahci mode. philscomputerlab made a video

  • @j-4dre
    @j-4dre Před 2 lety +1

    This is nostalgia for me. Although i didn't own this particular card model, I have had several ATI cards aimed for 2D work, like hardware video encoding and stuff.

  • @BrokenAtari
    @BrokenAtari Před 2 lety +4

    The trick with Windows XP is running your hdd controller in IDE mode and have 3GB of ram or less connected. Some motherboards have a OS type selection. Putting that to DOS/Linux tends to help on modern boards

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue Před 3 měsíci

      well, that and don't use a faulty hard drive.🤣🤣🤣

  • @Agurri
    @Agurri Před 4 lety +56

    Wait wait.... Half-Life actually came BEFORE Unreal Tournament. Like a whole year before.
    Still love you !

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +13

      Oh crap. My bad. I must have gotten my dates confused. Thanks for the correction. 👍

    • @Agurri
      @Agurri Před 4 lety

      Again no sweat. It seemed more playable on UT anyway

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing Před 3 lety +4

      @@Agurri I think it was original Unreal that came out around the same time.

  • @nticompass
    @nticompass Před 4 lety +105

    Pretty sure for this card, you'd want something like Windows 98 :-)

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +27

      Oh for sure. Somebody was telling me that there is a way to force drivers in Windows 7, so I may try that at some point. :)

    • @Anilocin
      @Anilocin Před 2 lety +7

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff Win Vista and 7 will run XP (XPDM) drivers, Win 8 and 10 require WDDM drivers.

  • @doggodoggo9184
    @doggodoggo9184 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The new ibuypower prebuilts are definitely gonna have this now

  • @tetanosgaming6794
    @tetanosgaming6794 Před 2 lety +1

    2:17 Directx 6 😂😂 I cant stop lauphing

  • @user-le8ul4nr5t
    @user-le8ul4nr5t Před 4 lety +81

    VGA actually has a few tricks up it's sleeve which makes it quite impressive, 1600x1200 16-bit is more of a limitation of the generic driver you are using, though this card might not be able to handle it. But I've managed to get up to 1920x1440i at something like 90hz on VGA, and it looks fantastic on an authentic CRT.

    • @cd7677
      @cd7677 Před 2 lety +2

      Actually impressive, are there videos of people pushibg the limits of dated video cables? Like supervideo or even component

    • @krypton7900
      @krypton7900 Před 2 lety +1

      I managed native resolution on a 1920x1080 monitor using vga before, granted it had a lot of analog noise, but it still worked

    • @uglybad4
      @uglybad4 Před rokem

      @@krypton7900 My 2nd monitor only has VGA input which I feed into my GPU with a VGA to HDMI adapter, no issue hitting 1080p for the good chunk of years I've had it running... is VGA output from a 2080 Super overdoing it?

    • @krypton7900
      @krypton7900 Před rokem

      @@uglybad4 bruh you have a 2080 super yet you can't afford a second monitor with hdmi/displayport? XD wait why does that monitor only have vga despite being 1080p? it should atleast have dvi too

    • @uglybad4
      @uglybad4 Před rokem +1

      @@krypton7900 It's some weird acer monitor, don't remember the exact model, that only has one VGA input and nothing else. My main display is 1440p 144hz over DisplayPort which is what I use 99% of the time; my VGA screen is purely for secondary stuff like Discord or podcasts

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail Před 4 lety +177

    Technically, you can't keep calling this a _GPU_ (or even the ATI term _VPU_ ) as the RAGE series is comparable to nVidia RIVA series, and predates Hardware T&L.

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes can

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 Před 3 lety +1

      @smakfu a gpu

    • @sebaa7308
      @sebaa7308 Před 3 lety +2

      @smakfu a gpu

    • @eternalreign2313
      @eternalreign2313 Před 3 lety +17

      It's barely better than a math coprocessor, which my first PC (386DX) had back in the early 90's.

    • @hansolo631
      @hansolo631 Před 3 lety +25

      Yea I was entertained as always by the video, but he was definitely showing his age here. Old ATI stuff deserves better than being torn apart like this decades later. Who knows, I doubt the RTX 2080ti will be able to run Holograph titles in 2051 so this is a bit unfair

  • @vdochev
    @vdochev Před 8 měsíci

    When I was a student I had an ATi Rage 128, 8MB in my gateway PC. I played The Sims, Monster truck madness 2, StarCraft, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit. Fun times. Then one of the 2MB chips died and it started artefacting in 3D mode. I still keep it to this day, poor thing.

  • @githane
    @githane Před 3 lety +1

    Oh man, that beings me back. Never had the Rage, but had a Matrox Mystique (years earlier) and then a TNT 2. Always wanted one of the Voodoo 2 cards. Weird times then, going from 2d accelerators to 3d.

  • @lennywhere
    @lennywhere Před 4 lety +350

    Still gets more frames than intel graphics

    • @itsaiman342
      @itsaiman342 Před 4 lety +20

      How? My intel graphics is a lot faster than the gpu that was on the video

    • @VaskoG384
      @VaskoG384 Před 4 lety +73

      @@itsaiman342 Firstly, r/woooosh
      Secondly, it's a joke.

    • @itsaiman342
      @itsaiman342 Před 4 lety +25

      @@VaskoG384 oh frick, i fell for the joke. What a dumb2 i am

    • @shadymccain9522
      @shadymccain9522 Před 4 lety +8

      AIMAN26 gaming you sure my laptop has such bad integrated graphics

    • @VolcanicProtectorMan
      @VolcanicProtectorMan Před 3 lety +1

      @@shadymccain9522 I was able to play Dota 2 on a 4 generation old Intel so yea it's better than this.

  • @solarity2991
    @solarity2991 Před 3 lety +17

    GT 210: Finally a worthy GPU, our battle will be legendary!

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety +1

      they bought 3 of them before they figured out the card does not work i am just like😂😂😂😂

  • @___________-yz3jo
    @___________-yz3jo Před 3 měsíci

    The cooler on that pc is kinda sick looking whats it called and do you think they make a intel 1700 socket style for it

  • @kvk2911
    @kvk2911 Před 3 měsíci

    Dawid did you try over-clocking GF 210 and comparing it with HD 630 (7th gen intel cpus igpu)

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord Před 4 lety +20

    Dawid: "1998? This card is almost as old as I am."
    Me: "you'd have to dig a PCB out of a ColecoVision before I could say that about tech hardware."

    • @Aiijuin
      @Aiijuin Před 3 lety

      LOL! Ditto!

    • @heinrichagrippa5681
      @heinrichagrippa5681 Před 2 lety

      For me it would be a 486. So, not quite as far back as you, but still enough to make his statement make me feel uncomfortably old.

    • @tsuyunobradley4439
      @tsuyunobradley4439 Před 2 lety

      It would be a Pentium I machine for me

  • @leightaylor8069
    @leightaylor8069 Před 4 lety +38

    I want to play "Graphics up the butt 9", where can I buy it?

  • @bawnjangles
    @bawnjangles Před rokem

    “Gotta watch Dawids new video”
    *insert an anecdote after every sentence.

  • @Jaaxfo
    @Jaaxfo Před 2 lety

    The title was cut off, and I was excited about the prospect that you might have scored an S3 Virge, my first 3D "accelerator" card

  • @jdlancaster1357
    @jdlancaster1357 Před 3 lety +14

    I purchased this GPU and it served my needs perfectly! I needed a PCI GPU to boot into my NAS' bios (Xeon E3 1230v2 has no integrated graphics, and my mobo didn't have PCI-e). If you read the reviews, you'll see that most people purchase this card for similar reasons.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety

      so your nas is so old it supports 16 bit color?

    • @Gissf1
      @Gissf1 Před 2 lety +8

      @@raven4k998 You obviously have no idea what a Xeon E3 is or how the graphics subsystem works on a PC architecture.

    • @Ciffer-1998
      @Ciffer-1998 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Gissf1still tho that xeon is pretty much a i7 4790 so how the hell does a botherboard from that period have a standard pci

    • @markoshark4697
      @markoshark4697 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Ciffer-1998 Because it is a NAS, and that card is there as a cheap way for Synology/QNAP/other to provide some form of expansion. Not sure when they started putting in PCI-E, but if the nas is 5 years old, then yeah. PCI all the way baby

    • @MrMega200
      @MrMega200 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Ciffer-1998 It's called motherboard dude...

  • @BobM925
    @BobM925 Před 4 lety +12

    I had a card similar to that back in ‘98, paired with a VooDoo for the proper 3D stuff.
    Honestly back in the Win 9x days having a display adapter with an 8 megabyte frame buffer, for 2D/Windows stuff, would’ve been really nice.
    Like you say pre-2000 games it’ll be fine, when installed on period correct hardware. It should play nice with Doom and Duke 3D for example.

  • @flos6754
    @flos6754 Před 2 lety +2

    Well for a server (at least for most use cases), it would do the job, as you just need a video output and nothing more than that. The other thing is, that my server requires a PCI Express video card, so I had to go for the famous GT710.

  • @nickmanhota324
    @nickmanhota324 Před 7 měsíci

    I had a ati rage 8mb with my pentium 3 400mhz and ran gta, quake and unreal tournament, gpolice absolutely fine, this was with windows 98 se, res was 800 x 640, the drivers have to be manually installed for everything 1 by 1 even on XP, would take half a day, a voodoo 2 was added via pci and was amazing.

  • @7_7_5
    @7_7_5 Před 4 lety +35

    i fell of my chair laughing when you showed "it was essentially the gt710 of 1998" with that face

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +6

      When I made that connection I also couldn't stop laughing. 😂

    • @SeverusStudios1980
      @SeverusStudios1980 Před 4 lety +1

      You guys are punks. I used to love Dawid, but since he has made fun constantly of not just my graphics card, but my inability to buy a better one, I hate him! Im on a disability pension. I wish I could afford better! Were not all DAWID who gets his stuff for free cos we all stupidly watch his videos.

    • @7_7_5
      @7_7_5 Před 4 lety +5

      @@SeverusStudios1980 1st off, he doesnt make fun of you if you cant afford a better graphics card. I cant remember a Video where he said something like: haha you cant afford a NEW graphics card. And im Sure he would NOT make fun of somebody because of this.
      2nd: he doesnt get parts for free all the time. So for you to say he gets stuff for free all the time is not correct.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Před 4 lety +3

      @@SeverusStudios1980 Hey Daniel,
      Im sorry to hear that your are offended. I am joking in these videos and I understand that everyone has different access to hardware. All hardware is beautiful and if what you have plays the games that you want to play. Then that's the only thing that matters.

    • @7_7_5
      @7_7_5 Před 4 lety +5

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah, i used to play on a 14 year old laptop with a Single core CPU and no gpu and it was a BAD System, but i had fun, and thats what matters

  • @RichardRaehal
    @RichardRaehal Před 4 lety +5

    That BSOD was a stop 7B. It is an inaccessible boot device. You can get that if you install Windows XP from a USB stick, are in RAID mode, etc... You may just need to find the mobo drivers for SATA and use F6 to load them during Windows setup. You may also want to be sure you have an XP SP3 install disk with those SATA drivers.

  • @thomasmetcalf6620
    @thomasmetcalf6620 Před 8 měsíci

    You can use xp drivers on win 7. Did that many a times back in the day.

  • @KingOfKYA
    @KingOfKYA Před 3 lety +1

    The win xp thing its your sata drivers play with the mode(emulated IDE generally works best) to get it working. The later sp cds will work but they will be harder to find as they were generally just available to businesses or people who mastered a custom cd.

  • @arwahsapi
    @arwahsapi Před 3 lety +7

    Back then there were many gaming VGA manufacturers like S3, 3dfx, ATI, Matrox and more.
    People used mostly 14-15 inch CRT monitors so 8MB video RAM were sufficient.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem

      yeah before 16bit color got ditched by windows 10🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Julcyy
    @Julcyy Před 3 lety +19

    Well... i had an apu that can‘t even handle agario, a 2d circle game .-.

  • @rakly3473
    @rakly3473 Před 2 lety

    Were you using the VGA to HDMI converter while trying to install WinXP?

  • @Pc118Gamer
    @Pc118Gamer Před 6 měsíci

    I remember the 8400 gs (an entry level card from 2006) was still available up until about 2018 or so, it even had lightning deals every year on black Friday

  • @josejuanandrade4439
    @josejuanandrade4439 Před 4 lety +80

    Im feeling a bit disapointed. This is the equivalent to go looking for a 1940's car and then complain is bad.. of course is bad... is a 22 year old card!
    The question is why do they sell it still, and well, the answer is simple: For people with 30 yr old computers that need a video output!
    Back then, the cpus didn't had integrated graphics. The igpu of those days, if it had one, it was part of the motherboard, and some had 1 or 2 mb of memory and they would struggle even playing videos. It wasn't like today that any budget cpu comes with integrated graphics good enough to watch youtube... well almost all of them, you know what i mean. Back then it was common to have both the sound and the video as pci cards. And the 2d video cards, let's call them that, were actualy more common then 3d acelerated graphics cards.
    This card was never meant to play games. It was literaly a video output card so you could use your pc and thats it. I know that realy sound like the gt 210... but is not realy the same... You see... the 210 exists in an age, where dedicated gpus are considered 3d acelerators, and not display outputs... where the basic video output is handled by the integrated gpu INSIDE your cpu and noone would think to buy a dedicated gpu just so they can watch youtube and dvd's. This card in the other hand, existed in a time were you needed to use a video card just to get video out. HELL this card existed in a time where 3D CARDS and video cards were 2 SEPARATED THINGS. You used THIS card along another pci card which function was to render the 3d graphics for your games, and you would plug the vga output of your video card into the 3d acelerator and then use the 3d acelerator output to plug your monitor! IT WAS CRAZY!

    • @devilmanakira
      @devilmanakira Před 4 lety +14

      It's a youtuber doing clickbait.

    • @JW86SH
      @JW86SH Před 4 lety +16

      You're on the right track with your comment, but off on a few points. The 3D Rage was the first 3D accelerator from ati. The Rage XL is a later revision that I believe was based on the Rage Pro and most certainly a 3D accelerator. The DirectX version that this card supports is going to be limited to DirectX 6. As far as XP drivers are concerned, they're built into Windows. It probably would have installed them without any issues if XP had installed. This is a perfect card to pair with older DOS gaming rigs. A video like this is pointless. It'd make more sense coming from someone knowledgeable in these older parts, like Druaga1, LGR, or philscomputerlab.

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle Před 3 lety +1

      There are much better options as simple PCI/AGP video display adapters than this even for systems pre 2000. And well, nah, most people consider the Geforce 210 as a display adapter for systems that come without one integrated, not as a 3D accelerator

    • @NotLemont
      @NotLemont Před 3 lety +5

      Who the hell still has a 30 year old computer, that's almost the same age as my mom

    • @JW86SH
      @JW86SH Před 3 lety +5

      @@NotLemont Me

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming Před 3 lety +7

    I am amazed that Amazon posted this card. I could expect Ebay listings, for vintage hardware is significant today and quite pricey actually. Heck, try to pick up a used, vintage Voodoo graphics card today.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 2 lety

      I am amazed he didn't try crypto currency mining with them for the lulz

  • @pschroeter1
    @pschroeter1 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember sometime in the 90s running a demo of original the Doom in a window the size of a index card on a W95 (W98?) system to get it to run. Still, it was my first 3D game and it seemed like magic. 100s of megawads later I'm still playing Doom.

  • @perry92964
    @perry92964 Před rokem +1

    sometimes there are industrial uses for old hardware like this, i gave away some old stuff to a guy who needed it for an old pc that was used to run a machine with windows 95

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst140 Před 4 lety +3

    The challenges to overcome finding an really old motherboard with pci slot and a monitor with vga..... looking right next to me at my rig, it has both. 😢

  • @AlterSchwedeWieGeil
    @AlterSchwedeWieGeil Před 4 lety +20

    *Rings tech Support*
    Client: My Rage XL Video Card struggles running Windows
    Tech support guy: Did you try turning it 180°?

  • @DeadlyFredXXX
    @DeadlyFredXXX Před 3 lety

    I had an old ATi Rage card similar to that one ages ago, the drivers never worked with it anyhow. Thankfully it was a planned for replacement anyhow but yeah, in the mean time it never even worked properly.

  • @riffypossy
    @riffypossy Před rokem

    this is making my laptop seem like some sort of scrap metal compiled together

  • @eurocrusader1724
    @eurocrusader1724 Před 3 lety +5

    I had a Rage Pro back in the day, with the memory expansion.
    It was my 2d card to my voodoo2

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing Před 3 lety +6

    In the right vintage build this would probably be pretty good. Had some rudimentary 3d acceleration functions, but was basically a 2d card, right?
    Really needs to be attached to a 3DFX. This is 95/98 era tech.

  • @tilburg8683
    @tilburg8683 Před 3 lety +1

    2:49 lol most of mine have one, agp on the other hand is really hard to find, everything is to old, to new, or to in between. Like even 2006 stuff is to new for AGP slots at all.

  • @stonent
    @stonent Před 3 lety +1

    XP drivers will install in Windows 7 32bit. (Vista as well). They may work in Windows 10 32bit but I've not tried it. (You may need to run the OS in unsigned driver mode since XP drivers were not usually signed)

  • @Jaklas1979
    @Jaklas1979 Před 4 lety +5

    9:11 Dawid's next video "I try to SLI 3x Rage XL's"

    • @kitty.x3
      @kitty.x3 Před 2 lety

      Do a x16 sli with These, that might be doing something at least 😂

  • @dhruvgupta6132
    @dhruvgupta6132 Před 3 lety +8

    8:58 I laughed way to hard on this XD

  • @thedeester100
    @thedeester100 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think I used to play Quake III on one of those (1999-2000?) I was still using Win 98 I believe. Was a few more years before GPUs got heatsinks. Then the heatsinks got so big they got little fans on them. Crazy thing is with all the new textures and shadows, I dont think there has ever been a game to surpass QIII Arena for game play. I also spent a ton of time in Urban Terror which was a QIII mod. The original Counter Strike got the Nick name counter cheat. QIII had Punkbuster.....lol.... Im oLd....

  • @outrun4047
    @outrun4047 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice, the perfect card for a slideshow in gaming!

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN Před 3 lety +4

    A Rage XL chip usually used in server motherboards as just a display output. That's kinda the reason it exists at all :D

  • @nathanthecollector429
    @nathanthecollector429 Před 3 lety +5

    “Old monitor with VGA”
    Me: Has VGA on my monitor and uses DVI on my 1680 x 1050 monitor

  • @tux9656
    @tux9656 Před 3 lety +1

    To test older hardware like this, you should use a AMD FX or Opteron system and use virtualization with PCI passthrough. You should be able get Windows 9x and DOS running just fine with that.

  • @MasterVertex
    @MasterVertex Před 3 lety

    The original iMac used to have the ATI Rage II chip built in. It was super disappointing to play Unreal on in 1998.

  • @PileOfEmptyTapes
    @PileOfEmptyTapes Před 3 lety +3

    I'd be willing to bet that the grief with Windows XP was caused by missing AHCI support out of the box. You can integrate this into the install media (easiest) or retroactively enable AHCI after installing in IDE mode (fiddly but doable).

  • @BerryRust.
    @BerryRust. Před 4 lety +3

    How do companies get away with producing such disgustingly low quality parts.

    • @TheOz1999
      @TheOz1999 Před 4 lety

      It's a sad reverse chicken and egg scenario. If you don't make an ultra cheap card, someone else will. And then you don't get any profit from that market segment at all.
      Although personally I agree with you, making ultra cheap parts doesn't make much sense in the long term as it can severely damage your brand image for those who bought one of those crappy parts from you. I would instead set a minimum standard for stuff I sell to help avoid that, nothing crazy but at least better than integrated graphics so that it makes sense to buy it in the first place.

    • @esra9426
      @esra9426 Před 4 lety

      Unregulated free market capitalism

    • @MikhaelAhava
      @MikhaelAhava Před 3 lety

      @butter thus the free market will decide whether it will be sold or not. So not much problem there, no ones forcing you to.

  • @DATWagonator
    @DATWagonator Před 2 lety

    What heatsync is that at the 3minute mark. THing looks sick.

  • @sillytao
    @sillytao Před 3 lety +1

    Which one do you think is more powerful. Intel HD graphics 4000 or the gt 710

  • @anderswanlin8022
    @anderswanlin8022 Před 4 lety +15

    Wait since when did you hit 100k congrats lol

  • @themwithat9636
    @themwithat9636 Před 4 lety +6

    0x0000007b on XP means you have enabled AHCI in BIOS and didn't load drivers. Try enabling IDE mode

  • @stonent
    @stonent Před 3 lety

    My Rage Pro Turbo from 1999 ran the original Unreal (not unreal tournament) pretty well, but I eventually returned it for a Riva 128 card.

  • @Pidalin
    @Pidalin Před 11 měsíci

    I have exactly this Rage XL 8MB PCI version, it was weak already back in 2001, it was probably meant just as something to show picture for people who didn't have integrated graphics or didn't have APG slot.

  • @hunkbol6154
    @hunkbol6154 Před 3 lety +3

    I somehow completed GTA V and Watch DoG 2 on my GT 710
    And also I do 1080p video editing on GT 710

  • @annagramgaming8934
    @annagramgaming8934 Před 3 lety +7

    To use some VERY rough numbers, I found synthetic benchmarks for the Rage XL on Hardware Museum (2.8). I also found a value for the Radeon 7500 (48.3). That's important, because you can find the Radeon 7500 on a more modern benchmark, like Passmark, where it gets a 3. It's worth noting, the $125 RX 570 has a Passmark benchmark of 6967. Using the Radeon 7500 as a scaling benchmark (the Rage XL is 5.8% of the Radeon 7500), that means we can rough out the Rage XL's Passmark at 0.2. This makes the RX 570 (a good value card, but still a value card) almost 35000 times more powerful than the Rage XL. Even the lowly GF 710 gets a Passmark of 621, or 3100 times more powerful, just to give an idea of scale. Not sure why I felt the need to work this out, but I did.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 2 lety

      you cannot compare it like that. sorry to tell you.

    • @annagramgaming8934
      @annagramgaming8934 Před 2 lety

      @@warrax111 As I said, those are VERY rough numbers- a full recognition that benchmarks are not reality. Do you have a better way of modeling the differences between the items in question?

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 Před 2 lety +1

      @@annagramgaming8934 Yes, it's uncomperable. You are trying compare, what cannot be numbered.
      those are different technologies, platforms.
      Newer cards have lots of features, supports higher versions of directX, etc.
      You can compare only cards from about same era, that can be said "this card is 150% faster, this card is 350% faster, etc...).
      But cards from over 10 or 20 years, not.

    • @annagramgaming8934
      @annagramgaming8934 Před 2 lety

      @@warrax111 I guess I have to repeat this because you are incapable of reading. It's a VERY (caps every fucking time) rough comparison. So thank you for observing the obvious about the nature of these kinds of issues. Now for the part you ran away from: Can you offer any kind of way of doing this better? Or are you just looking for a chance to snark about something offered as VERY rough and pretend that wasn't said EVERY time?

  • @bleach_drink_me
    @bleach_drink_me Před 2 lety

    Had one of these back in the day... makes me feel old.
    I think it was paired with an AMD k6.

  • @simonupton-millard
    @simonupton-millard Před 2 lety

    Shown up in my recommendations today, this video adapter was used loads in servers up till 2010s as it could pass the video onto the remote access card for some reason where as newer GPUs carnt, also good if you want to run vms and pass your good gpu to a gaming VM but need a display out for somthing else and dont have onboard video, shows how long they have been arround an ATI Rage 128 was the 1st new graphics card I got with my own money

  • @pleaseuseOdysee
    @pleaseuseOdysee Před 3 lety +8

    "If that's something that you're into"
    LGR Fans: *YES*

  • @machinegunnergaming3906
    @machinegunnergaming3906 Před 4 lety +5

    I just love it when a GPU is older than me

  • @paranoidgenius9164
    @paranoidgenius9164 Před měsícem

    I saw this in the listing on Amazon & I thought it was some kind of joke, great for retro enthusiasts like me, but I wasn't expecting to see something brand new, but so low spec, even I laughed at it!😂

  • @jonathont5570
    @jonathont5570 Před 2 lety

    I bought some similar of these for a retro 2d build I was working on.

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax333 Před 3 lety +3

    hah, i remember the days when one used to buy a graphics card like that,...yeah no fancy coolers needed at that time and it was like the Top. happy days.

  • @caml1230
    @caml1230 Před 3 lety +8

    Mom can we get a pc. Mom : we have a pc at home , the pc at home:

  • @JohnAmanar
    @JohnAmanar Před 3 lety

    Oh, you should have seen those I've tested. 1-4 MB cards for instance, from 1996. :D Great video!

  • @BelongsToJesus
    @BelongsToJesus Před 2 lety +1

    On your Windows XP install did you download the storage controller drivers for your Intel ahci chipset and install them with a floppy drive. Oh yeah USB floppy doesn't work.

  • @rayzen_undogen
    @rayzen_undogen Před 3 lety +8

    Windows XP might not work due to you trying to use AHCI instead of IDE, AHCI wont work if you dont have drivers

    • @tristan6509
      @tristan6509 Před rokem

      Also windows xp doesn't include a built in sata driver, it will absolutely error out if you don't install a sata driver upon setup

  • @galacticgaminghd1859
    @galacticgaminghd1859 Před 3 lety +4

    0:08 I can see the Gpu I am saving up for to put in a pc. (hint: it has a yellow box)

    • @SussyBaka-em9rq
      @SussyBaka-em9rq Před 3 lety +1

      Don't get it trust me. I have the slightly better one (3GB model) and even though I can play some modern games, you would be much bettee off just saving up for an RX5500 XT. I know its a lot cheaper but its not even on a comparable level of performance.

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting. I like the old stuff.

  • @potardo9851
    @potardo9851 Před 2 měsíci

    I can't count how many times one of those ATI Rage XL pci video cards have saved my ass. At one time I had salvaged a small stack of them and they enabled me to build and learn alot about older machines back when I got started. I think I still have one around as my saving grace for whenever I play around with my oldies. Reliable af.