NEW! Meguiar's M888 Ceramic Paint Coating - Is It Better Than The Spray?
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- After a disappointing showing with the Meguiars Spray Ceramic Coating I wasn't sure what to expect of the new M888. Here are my findings...
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A general commentary is that Meguiar’s makes more good products than they do bad ones, while something like Chemical Guys makes a ton ton ton of bad products than they do good ones.
I think that’s a fair statement for sure.
Their Quick detailer spray and Honeydew Snowfoam are like their only good products
Disagree; the ceramic detail wax spray (blue bottle) is great because it allows the user different ways to apply; also the quick detailer is easy to use and the extreme tire shine spray is the best for high gloss. I use the wax/cleaner when needed but their regular waxes do NOT stand up.
@@Gumshoe88 nothing CG makes is better than Meguiars in my findings. CG has become so saturated in marketing their stuff, they act like they invented car detailing products by overcharging for everything.
@@CapoKabar I agree CG is overrated and overpriced; my personal experience is that most of Megs products are good to great but their standard waxes are not up to par.
Not hardening in the applicator is due to newer coating technology that allows them to be flexible as the panels expand and contract from heat, in theory giving them better longevity. In my test, this is one of the better ones initially so it looks promising for sure. I like that you get a big bottle for the price too.
Interesting. Good info. Thanks for sharing.
It just means low solids. Typically a polysilazane coating. I’m not sure I’d say it’s better or worse to be honest. It has pros and cons.
@@chrisbradley3224It's 100% actives, actually.
This coating looks like a nice product Jim. Off topic, I wanted to let you know that I put your Hard as Shell on my wife's van 2 weeks ago. Weather hasn't been terrible here in Chicago but not good either. No washes, daily driven and it still looks great. Probably going to wash next weekend (Mar. 9th-10th 2024) and I am hoping really curious to see how well the hydrophobics hold up. Disclaimer: No, I do not know him, work for him, or are affiliated with him in any way. I paid for his product and giving my honest opinion about it.
I appreciate it! Love to hear that it’s performing as it should. Pls keep us all updated on it after the wash!
I'm so happy to see this review. I was starting to think you weren't gonna do it. My bottle came in this past Monday. I can't wait to apply it to my truck!! Thanks for the great review!
Glad you enjoyed it.
A lot of us have a soft spot for Meguiars and I am happy to see this coating is similar to their aerosol coating. Your acid product looks like a winner too! Thank you for a cool video!
They’ve been the go to forever. Super happy to have this product do good!
I have about 4 cans of fast finish in my garage, kept buying it on sale in winter from walmart for dirt cheap. Might not be the best but like a lot of their stuff, it works, it's affordable, and is it's easy to get,.
I had no problem dropping them after several torture tests. I have some bottles of quick detailer I used to use when drying the car, but outside of that I may use some interior spray from them.
Getting my genesis g90 ready for this coating this weekend. Glad it did well
Great video, thanks Jimbo!
Jimbo, that Meguiar's product looks great! Thanks for doing your tests and your scientific method.
Excellent review. The torture tests proved how resilient the M888 is! With a price point like this, I believe that this will create nice market for weekend warriors to explore DIY at home applications. Looking forward to more of your content. Cheers from Canada 👍
Totally! Thanks for watching
Glad to see you actually gave this one a fair shake.
Given the fact that Meguiar's clearly knows how to make a quality coating, how about doing another video where you record the entire application process for UCC and do it how I explained it to you? Then re-test it and see if maybe was due to improper application and abnormally low temperature.
As I explained to you during multiple phone calls and text messages, UCC is built to be ultra forgiving for first timers, and as a result it has a trade-off of a slower cure that is made even slower by cold (which is also true for real pro coatings, hence IR lamps). You applied and tested UCC when it was under 60 degrees for a week straight AND you also did not work it into the paint like I explained. That is why it didn't perform. It is a real coating, but it was tested like a sealant.
Looking forward to that video.
Someone seems a bit frustrated
I gave UCC a fair shake too. It just underperforms and that’s ok, as long as we know where it stands. Something called a spray coating should last much longer than a wash even if applied in less than completely ideal temperatures. M888 is great UCC is not good.
@@autodetailingpodcast
I guess I will have to agree to disagree on that one. Truly disappointed, and I don't mean in the product.
All told, I spent well an hour on the phone with you and exchanged numerous messages with you. You love to name drop me, but somehow forgot to include ANYTHING we actually discussed about how you improperly applied it and how the cold was a factor. Also quite interesting that you didn't include the application in this video when I know you recorded it because you sent it to me privately and I told you what you did wrong.
Really bummed about how you went about this whole thing, honestly. ESPECIALLY after you go around making videos complaining about the lack of innovation and transparency in the industry post-SEMA, and when I spend over an hour explaining to you how and why UCC is both wildly innovative (more than meets the eye) AND finally an HONEST, REAL true cross-linking spray coating (the only one in retail I am aware of), but you chose to not mention ANY of that.
I also explained in detail how and why this first-of-its-kind formula allowed for incredibly forgiving wipe-off windows that are not found in normal true coatings - you never even mentioned ANY of that.
If nothing else, at least I now know why you wouldn't give me an answer on my offer to come down to the HQ, get a tour and direct access to the lab to discuss the product prior to doing your video.
But if Jim can't apply UCC correctly how can a non-detailer apply it correctly so it last?
@@MarkusKleisit seems Jimbo applied it the same way as the 40 second application video on Meguirs CZcams. I’m not taking sides.
Been waiting on this one review. I pre-ordered this stuff as soon as it was announced and received the bottle back in December. I trust you, Pan, and Apex when it comes to product testing. Now I will go ahead and apply this to my vehicles.
Nice! Good to go from me! Thanks for the trust.
I need to pick it up for my mobile detailing business. I also need to pick up your stuff to and try it. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Definitely looking forward to you trying it!
Happy to see this from Meguiars! Could you do a quick followup to this test with maybe 1-2 days of curetime? I dont think I would ever be able to let it cure for the full 7 days as my car has to be on the road almost every day..
Nice review Jimbo... btw i used Your "HAS" this weekend as an after wash detialer... worked great. easy to apply, slick, no streaks,shiny 💯
Love to hear it! Thanks for the support!!
Outstanding, timely too and will apply it to my 2023 VW Arteon
nice. Enjoy
Super happy that meguiar's have finally created a real durable ceramic coating!, I love the brand, and I can't wait to be able to test it and with the addition of toppers like meguiar's ultimate ceramic coating, meguiar's hybrid ceramic wax, or like any other ceramic coating that I tested we loved Meguiar's M799 pro hybrid ceramic bead booster as topper!
Wow I am impressed with this, wonder how it does on glass and for durability with wipers.
Home run of a video, thank you!
Thanks for watching
Great video. Now we can say there is a coating that can survive harsh chems.
With your honest review just sold me on Your product Thanks .
Great to hear!
I’m pleasantly surprised it made it. When are your products going to be available on Amazon?
I was hoping they would be up by now, but im waiting on amazon to approve some things - so ASAP! Ill def let you know when.
Just ordered your hard as shell product. Excited to try it
Eyyy!! Thanks for the support. You’re gonna love it.
I use waxing red pad to apply coatings. Is big for better coverage and flexible for contours.
I think that’s better than this supplied applicator too.
Hi who's waxing red pad do you use ? What size pad ? Thanks
@tacticalofficer6103 Griots 6.5 inch red waxing pad. You can find them in local part store like autozone, then use sharp razor to cut it as your desired size.
Great video! I’m new to the detailing world and have been enjoying your content. It seems Meguiars has already put a discount on the M888. It’s on sale for $81 now.
Nice! Sometimes the price goes up and down. Looks like the reviews on Amazon aren’t as good so maybe they lowered it because of that.
Awesome review.
Thanks!
Great video. Have you ever tried Nasiol NL272 or what do you think the best cost no object coating is right now? I know yours is still in the works. Enjoying Hard as Shell so far.
Thanks for the support. Not sure on the best because I always assumed they would all pass a torture test. I think Nasiol makes some very good coatings. I’ve been happy with them
I still have about 10 cans of Meguiars Hybrid Paint Coating to go through. I'll check this out in 9 years
LOL
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Any commentary on the UV resistance of it? I live in southern Arizona, so rain is not much of a concern. I have a box that I haven't used yet. Got it on sale a few years ago at a store I used to work at.
@@jimmyqballs hard pill to swallow
The foam will use a lot less product, that’s the only benefit I’ve found . Takes a bit to get used to but I’ve grown to prefer it over microfiber
Glad to see Meguiar's coating is working like it should. I'll likely won't buy it as the local distributor marks everything up too much, but I'm still a fan.
Good job Meguiars. Nice review! I have been waiting for it.
They nailed it on this one.
Daaaaangg, that looks legit!!!!
seems to be legit to me too.
right on, customers should expect a quality product for the money. to be perfectly honest, ive gotten to the point if i am disappointed in a product, or dont feel ive gotten a decent return on my money, im done with the company who sold it, forever. ill take a good product for a fair price all day long, sell me over priced junk once, and its over.
Agreed. I think a lot of people are feeling this way too and some brands are struggling.
i wana know why the cerakote video got taken down, i didnt get to watch it?
Congrats on the product line Jimbo! I'd be interested to see this go head-to-head against the Megs Hybrid Paint Coating. I've seen great results for the hybrid paint coating on CZcams and it's under $30 lol. Would be interesting to see if it's worth it to get this for over triple the price. Love your videos!
It’s worth it - I wouldn’t put my name on it if it wasn’t. Thanks for watching!
@@autodetailingpodcast I'm talking about the new M888 Ceramic coating going head to head with the Megs Hybrid Paint Coating.
Do u know if does matter if u do In sunlight in hot sun is ok or u have to do it in Garage or bust out ez up for it ?
Thanks for sharing. What is that cordless air dryer you're using?
It’s a flex. It kinda sucks for a whole car. Works good for this panel tho
23:30 Hi Jim I am in the UK loving your Chanel, the Meguiars M888 looks absolutely amazing but can’t seem to find it here in the UK even your link to Amazon just comes up with a Meguires wax. Any ideas where I can order it from in the USA or even from yourself thanks. Paul.
hey Paul - not sure, you would need to contact Meg's directly.
Looks like it holds up great! I’d be curious about Undrdog Pro or Pro +. Also, I REALLY want to see Mastersons products just to see if it’s any good. I have my doubts like many, but it’d be for science. lol
I have this video from a long long time ago: czcams.com/video/uCPekgGqHhg/video.htmlsi=7WFMrwObCEVj_T9V
Thx for the video Jimbo. What is the estimated lifespan that Meguiars state?
They only say multi year
Have or can you do a review on "shiny car stuff"?
Value is not only in the price ....good show and thoughts.
Are people really complaining about $100 coating? 50 ml could probably do 3 sedans or two larger SUV’s. As always thanks for the thorough review jimbo!
People will always find something to complain about. IMO this product is a huge win and you’re 100% right. I think you could easily do 3 cars with this.
I want you to test nanoskin g force ceramic graphene coating..
Ok I’ll try to work it in. Thanks for the suggestion.
Nice review!
How long is this coating meant to last?
Meguiars doesnt give specifics on longevity, just says “multi year”
I just placed an order for both your Products Jimbo yesterday ( very excited ) If I was to use this product M888 first.. Let it cure 7 days Should I go over it with Your product Hard as shell for added protection?? Will this make the product last longer?? give it more hydrophobic properties?.. Thankyou!
Hey thanks for the support! Yes this can go right on top and it will make it last longer and enhance the properties of it!
Jimbo, you gotta fix your lighting. You look mighty creepy with the bronze skin tone and your eyes look almost yellowish white. Stuff of nightmares! 😂
Good to see they finally released a coating that looks promising! I do really like their Hybrid Paint Coating too. Amazing 12+ month coating for the price point.
Cc’ing Bryant on here. Haha
So I notice most if not all reviews show the torture test with a water hose and sprayer vs the pressure washer so I’m curious if the pressure washer and a strip soap would make this coating fail. I’m going to try the graphene spray by Adam’s to try it and see how well it works but I did watch your older video.
I just have always used the garden hose for torture test so I try to keep that part of it consistent. Sometimes IMO a pressure washer is too much power and doesn't give an accurate read on the product.
Can we use your Hard As Shell on vinyl wraps? Thanks
Yes
Please shopping in Hungary your products! Thank you!
Hey Jimbo. What do you think about Gtechniq's CSL coating? This coating reminds me of it because csl also doesn't harden on the towels/applicator.
It’s super easy to apply and was a favorite for a little bit. But I’ve never put it in a test. Before the Cerakote attempt at a coating I just assumed they would all pass. So I’ve had to rethink that
@@autodetailingpodcast I actually think it'd be a great video to do! A revisit to well known coating that alot people/Detailers know and love! Also I love your channel and honesty dude!
I agree man - maybe ill work it into the rotation. thanks for the idea. @@samuelm.1895
JB goes full Heisenberg on the hood at 21:07
I can tell he has spent a lot of time in the desert in the RV....just look at his face at 0:19.
If his next video is sponsored by Los Pollos Hermanos, I am out of here!
Just kidding JB, keep up the content. It is helpful to see other coating options and how they apply/perform.
Hahaha!!!
I have a question for you, when you applied it on the test area was it decontaminated and free from other other coatings?
Yes of course. Always stripped and re prepped before every new application of a product
Is this product already out? Or is it that it hasn't made it to MX yet and that's why i don't se anything
Hows this compared to something like Avalon Kings Armor Sheild ix? Granted their product is a little cheaper
Not sure - I’d have to test it against each other
FYI... The M888 has a 20% off clip coupon on Amazon ended up getting it for $70.. Just bought it and will coat this weekend and back it up with the Hard as Shell when it arrives.. hopefully soon!!!
Love to hear it!
Have you tried Meguire's solo 1 M300 yet ? That product is amazing. Kind of made their other products obsolete when it comes to defect removal or polishing ! Now they have this M888 , I think they hit everything out of the park with these products
I haven’t tired it yet. Mainly because they had that product out in about 2008 and I tried it then. It’s good. But I prefer 3D one or even system 51 (csi) - meguairs copied system 51 back in the day with that whole solo stuff and it kinda rubbed me the wrong way
@@autodetailingpodcast this one's new for 2024 solo 1 and it says has si2 the m300 one .. I used it for the first time today it's very smooth. Long working time , No dust , ridiculously easy to wipe off and I live here in Vegas or it's 108° today under a carport with no streaks ! Fyi
@@danjohnson5952 - sounds awesome!! Maybe I’ll have to pick some up
I have a dayli driver truck when they say to let it cure for 7 days does that mean when instal the product i can't drive my truck ?
No I don’t think so. I think it’s just saying that so you don’t wash it within 7 days.
Would it matter if the product came into contact with the black window rubbers/seals
I think it would only make those parts look better.
How is this different from their Polysilazane paint coating that was stellar product?
I’m not sure - I think they said this is all new technology.
So I got the hard as shell do i top this with that after 7 days?
Yup - I would just say you can after your first wash.
So this is a big win? I was going to get the Adams coating
I like it.
Have you tested DIY detail coatings?
I haven’t but I’ve heard really good things about them.
Does the pure magic cleaner work on bugs on glass & paint/plastic after a long drive?
Yes. I’ll add it to my foam cannon to help break stuff down - czcams.com/video/egMJTeEVNm4/video.htmlsi=Tavq-6kMuSBgMvwF
What is the PH? @@autodetailingpodcast
pH is 4
you should try bug remover on it
How does Hard as Shell compare to this?
It’s a spray not a wipe on. So it would be used to maintain a wipe on coating like this. Also, much less prep is required for HAS.
In meguiars video I saw them applying a ceramic bead booster after the coating is that legit?
Yes. You could for sure do that.
@@autodetailingpodcast cool I have a 39 sedan with 20 yr old fixing dents and touch up the owner is having cut the car and buff clearcoat had shrunk back alot
How do you wash the car after using this product? Do you think this is a 2 year product? Thx
They recommend using a meguiars car soap. I think this product easily last two years.
@@autodetailingpodcast TY, great video
That's actually impressive as hell for a coating in today's offerings. Gonna have to give it a shot
I agree. I was impressed.
Where can you get the meguiars coating
Amazon. I put a link in description
7 days to cure.. do it out rains 5 days post application... Do you start over? Or does that just mean no actual washing?
7 day cure is only if you’re going to torture test it. It can get rained on within an hour. So spray wipe and enjoy unless you’re going to spray chemicals on it right away.
@@autodetailingpodcast so for most people in their driveway.. apply .. Wait.. wipe off... Don't wash for 7 days.... And just see how long it lasts?
Yes
Did u test the new formula or old cerakote formula?
the original formual. testing the new stuff now.
Did cerakote fix there latest ceramic coating?
No. I don’t think they know how to.
How was the gloss enhancement?
It looked nice to me.
I recently installed a ceramic coating on my new car, can I apply this on top and have the same durability? Or I need to take all the ceramic coating and install this?
You could do either but they would prob recommend to strip and then apply this if you want maximum benefits. But if you’re not worried about maxing it out you will be fine going over top IMO.
@@autodetailingpodcast thank you, what product do you recommend to wipe out the other coating?
How many years is Meguiars ceramic coding good for?
They don’t put a number on it
It worries me to hear you say that about really slick coatings. I applied Hard as Shell last night and told myself it's the slickest coating I've used. I guess time will tell.
Not to worry about HAS - it’s tried and true. The materials are a little different then they are in solvent based wipe on coatings. Glad you’re enjoying it.
The Amazon watch and wait continues. Have you come up with a release date for your products to drop on Amazon?
You're 20 minutes from me in HB but I prefer the convenience of Amazon.
Great Torture test review for Meguiars!
I’m just waiting for Amazon to approve a trademark. What city are you in? I maybe able to deliver - send me a message and we can chat.
Or use code FIRSTTIMER and it will ship free.
@@autodetailingpodcast I'll use the code. I'm in Huntington Beach but know you have a business to run. Actually across the street from the Westminster Mall off Bolsa.
BTW,what do you use for an interior cleaner on Leather, Plastic etc.?
Oh man! I can totally deliver if you want. I’m in the area all the time
Can I use your new products on a wrapped car?
Yes
Do u go tanning bro
Filters help I guess
50ml is probably full to the brim where they left a little out for shaking it up.
how long does it last
they only say "multi year durability" but as we know how long coatings last will depend on how they are maintained.
I've been using Meguiars polishing products for years. Im very excited they came out with an actual ceramic coating. I'll be ordering this.
Great review as always Jimbo.
I have your Hard as Shell, but it's been snowing and rainging. I cant wait to try it.
Thanks for the support! You’re gonna love it.
How does that compare to there paint coating
This is their paint coating isn’t it?
@@autodetailingpodcast the one in a spray can
Oh gotcha. I think this is more durable.
Bottle can hold 50ml but is probably filled to 40ml.
It's a polysilazane based coating, not SiO2. That's why it doesn't harden
it it worth buying as a mobile detailer?
Yes but CarPeo 3.0 & Gtechniq Serum are great for Mobile detailing.
@@user-lh8io9td5p I'd add Can Coat to that.
I think yes, it's worth it@@garethdavies7564
as to the comments that start at 15:22, in marketing it is the unattainable triad (or triangle): price/quality/convenience (speed). You can't deliver all three better than everyone else for an extended period of time.
100%
Jimbo, I loved your tests, reason for coatings not hardening is that before you needed a PPF coating, a Trim coating and a Paint coating that hardens, now with the same coating you can coat all surfaces with the same bottle. Coatings are still giving thickness, 9H hardness (if that is a thing), gloss, slickness but are flexible enough to be installed on PPF, Trim and Clear Coat. Hope that helps.
How long u had ur 89 speedster
It’s a clients. I just store it. They bought it new in 89 and picked it up in Germany.
cool
Side note. How does water not puddle in your garage
idk, its slightly sloped to drain out the door. and its not super cold where im at, so any water left just dries up.
Looks like a great product but $100 isn’t bad .. but Yeah that applicator is going to be hard to get under door handles
Totally! It’s an easy fix tho.
@@autodetailingpodcast I wonder if you can cut it and if you do would that hurt the structure of the pad
I’m sure it would be fine. That glue is pretty tough
I'm looking at the comments... No one is talking about the 7 DAYS TO CURE!!! I guess this will be applied either by owners DIYers... But if keeping a car 24h was challenging I can't imagine 7days.
If I missed something please let me know. I know that here in FL... It is absolutely Impossible to avoid the car being 100% wet without rain... Just due to morning dew.
You don't have to worry - the 7 day cure is pretty standard. But they do say this is a moisture cure, according to Meguiars.
@@autodetailingpodcast thank you. Meguiars is amazing. Is this available only to business or to public too?
Available to everyone
7 day cure time?! Im not sure this would be good for shop use if you had to tell clients you needed their vehicle for 7 days. Also, its hard for anyone to go 7 days without their car.
Why would anyone apply the $30 coating to their vehicle after prepping it when compared to this?
Idk but the $30 option isn’t available any more.
Nice. I see it priced at $82 now.
7 days cure time.? Thats insane.
7days cure wth so im in Florida it rains a lot here to be waiting 7days full cure
is that little bottle enough to cover an entire car?
Yes
Why dont they tell you how long it lasts other than multi year? A product at that price should have a time stamp like 2 years or 3 years.
not sure - I think brands are trying to get away from claims like that to be different, but it just makes people more confused.
Because it totally depends on how you maintain it, whether it's garaged, etc. If they say 3 years and you maintain it well and it lasts 6 great. But if you never wash it, or if you take it through a high ph touchless car wash every day and never top it with anything and it only lasts 2 years you'll be pissed even though that's good performance.
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What ive sern so far its really good but who want to spend a $100 dollars on it very few