Juggernaut vs Hulk
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- The Hulk fights The Juggernaut - An Unstoppable Force vs an Immovable Object!
▸ The Hulk makes War! With his new power granted by Apocalypse, nothing seems capable of stopping Hulk in his tracks! To stop an unstoppable force, you need to find another unstoppable force! Enter the JUGGERNAUT!
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Hulk as a Horseman of War is such a rad idea...and then you see him.
Oh, I thought it was Bane from the really bad Batman film. :3
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YES!
@@jaeusa160keep coping, that trilogy contains ALL THREE of the only good dc films that aren't just longform versions of the justice league cartoon or btas
@@anguishedcarpet I meant Batman & Robin (?), the Uma Therman Poison Ivy one, with the green Bane, and Mr Freezanator.
“Nobody has done this to juggernaut”
Gladiator: You must’ve forgot.
He forgor
Onslaught also says hello from Canada.
Exactly what I was thinking...
Spider-man has entered the chat, my boi😎
He means someone countering Juggernaut's reality warping unstoppable ability, only War Hulk and Thor using the God blast are only two times I can recall something prevented Juggernaut's advance to point his power was counter by something extreme enough to do it. Generally things only slow him down, but never prevent his movement entirely.
Apocalypse is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe unless Marvel wants to show how powerful another character is in which case he becomes a punching bag like what's been done with Galactus repeatedly lately.
I hate how Marvel has done that with Galactus this last decade or so.
Apocalypse isn't the most powerful in the marvel universe he's one of the most powerful on earth not universe
....which is why I'm essentially done with the "new" Marvel
There’s been a focus over the last 20 years or so to make every other character omnipotent or an omega level mutant.
It’s gotta stop.
I’m perfectly fine with characters that need to struggle to overcome an opponent or…..lose from time to time.
@@vegeta201168This
Juggernaut is my favorite and I feel like he has been due for the upgrade of power that EVERYONE gets and to keep it at a high level and not dropped so far that he's cannon fodder for the other brawlers as he is now. Hulk has done so much and i love that Marvel keeps him relavent but we need to keep guys that can somewhat stand a chance against him around.
They can always explore more on Trigon Juggernaut who uses the full power of the gem
@@Eric-lx8hp its strange they opened up Juggernaut to the full power of the gem recently then jobbed him out to ice man and immortal hulk...
@@KingJuggernaut08he only accessed the full power of the gem once .. he became 100 feet tall and was punching thru dimensions
Yeah he's always been my fab Marvel Villain.
How about stop upgrading the powers. Tell a good story instead or bring on new characters that maybe off spring or project induced.
Whenever they need to make a hero look strong, they give my man juggernaut an L
that's sad Juggernaut Lives Matter!!!
plus do UNIVERSE X & PARADISE X
Legit. Writers consistently ignore Juggernauts powerset too. More often than not the L is a BFR though. Lets never forget the quick drying cement too. As if Juggy doesnt shred concrete like wet paper. 🤦♂️
Same with galactus when there's a new universal threat
@@redsledgeblu5234if you encased a Body builder in a block of ice they probably couldn't break out and seeing that momentum is his best weapon holding him still before he gets the chance to get moving should be effective in theory
@@kylonbell123Dude juggernaut can literally walk through the fucking earth and lift 100s of tons. He should be able to walk through cement
There was an old story, decades ago, where Hulk and Juggers escaped from a holding facility, bound together, then they had a fight, still tied together.
I'd love to see a review of that.
Sounds hilarious asf
id love to see a rehash of that tbh sounds awesome
UNIVERSE X, PARADISE X, MALCOM X, YES! YES!
Not sured about being tied together, but I do have an issue, where they breakout of a holding facility together and then end up fighting each other, for the first time.
@@izzy3166 In the one I remember, they had a cable between them, I think by the wrists. It ends with the Hulk spinning Juggers around by his head, the helmet pops off, and Juggers goes flying off into the distance.
It's so funny to me that they felt the need to give him a sword. I wonder if he also has a 9mm just in case being one of the strongest beings in the universe isn't t enough.
Apocalypse is a big fan of presentation and accessories. He gave Wolverine a sword too when Wolvie was a Horseman.
Hulk is definitely a .45 ACP guy
It helps
Perfect timing Rob just sat down for a 15 min drive
Drive safe!
Yes stay safe
Right off a cliff
I love Adam Kubert's art, his run on Wolverine was one of the best ever.
The only other instance I can remember of someone actively "stopping" the Juggernaut was that one chick in recent years, whose power is to leech momentum out of a given system. People will cry at that of course, "how dare they disrespect his powers like that!" and whatever...
But really, it made perfect sense and stayed true to the concept behind his powers:
No external force (short of a being that could threaten Cyttorak in his home dimension probably) can push against the forward momentum the Juggernaut has. Counter-forces simply don't apply against it. However, the girl's powers explicitly bypassed that - instead of pushing back against him, she directly leeches away his momentum. This works because while Cain _is_ pretty strong as Juggernaut, most of his feats rely on his resistance to counter-forces. It takes him a bit to build his momentum - so she's able to leech it off faster than he can create it, stopping him in his tracks.
And it fits with another encounter she has, where she's unable to stop the Hulk. A generic Hulk form won't be able to stop Juggernaut, so why did she have more trouble with him than with Cain? It's just down to how their powers work exactly: Hulk doesn't have any kind of resistance, but it all comes from raw explosive strength. He simply builds momentum faster than that girl's powers can leech it off.
She didn’t stop him, she slowed him down. He still generated more momentum than she could leech. and take in mind this is a weakened Juggernaut.
Thor literally stopped Juggs with a God Blast before. God blast can injure Galactus and Celestials so it's not surprising
Thor stopped him with god blast.
Hulk stopped him in WWH, writer said he did stopped him
@@jonathanbatista6135 It stopped him but didn't scratch him, crazy.
@@darioja2469 The writer saying something happened that didn't even happen in the comic sounds like a Death of the Author situation to me. If the Juggernaut was stopped, this would've been a big deal. But he wasn't, he was just slowed down.
The artist of that issue was a local in Maine. The comic shop he used to go to was the same one I went to. Zimmies. He put the shop name on a street sign in the story. You can even see it in this video.
I remember buying this issue waaay back flbc of this fight. Still have it too and always thought it was cool that Hulk halted Juggernaut. I've always been a Juggernaut fan.
I had this comic back in the day! Great storyline. It was great seeing Wolverine as the horseman of death.
For all those who dont know juggs only can access 30 percent of cytoraks power ...imagine if he had access to 100 percent of cytoraks power
World War Hulk still wins
@marcd2936 U do know in the world war hulk saga he went against juggernaut and he couldn't do anything with juggernaut and juggernaut was only using 30 percent of cytoraks...all he did was divert juggernauts direction while juggernaut was charging at him...he definetly couldn't handle juggernaut at 100 percent
He has before during trion juggernaut and he could punch through and rip dimensions, spacetime and reality
@@vegeta201168 Worldbreaker Hulk would beat him
He has in more recent years juggernaut received full power of cyttorack. That version would slap hulk down easily
Like Galactus, if you job out Juggernaut more often than not, he loses his relevancy.
Juggernaut should've pulled a Hogan and said "Lose to the Hulk? That doesn't work for me, brother"
Most writer can’t be bothered to consider anything beyond their own story. Lazy writers and lazy editorial has ruined American superhero comics
Thanks once more for the amazing content. WIll you ever make a video on crossroads, maybe the best Hulk story out there.
A lot of fun this story is.
I still have the comic today, and you'll won't possibly get another story like this again.
A fantastic read.
🤘🏻😁
do you have EARTH X & PARADISE X?
@@markwalters4710
I do.
Believe it or not,
I've had it in my collection for 5 years and have not read it yet.
Constantly picking up more and more books.
Gotta get to reading those stories.
Juggernaut word comes from hindi word jagannath. Its the name of lord vishnu, one of the main dieties of hinduism. The name comes from the fact that in celebrating jagannath, people gather and walk together. Anyone who comes in front of so many people gets crushed, such a huge number of people.
Thanks for sharing, really interesting
By far one of the most interesting comments I've ever read
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And I thought it was a big lorry. 😂. Just kidding. It’s a ancient Sanskrit word. First used to describe and enormous carriage that carried and image of lord Vishnu. The story was first bought into Europe about five hundred years ago by a Franciscan friar.
Not true
Just like the word God and guardian comes from the same Sanskrit root word Gautham; God or guardian does not equal to Gautham.
Same way with Juggernaut and Jaggernath. Has an English word with Sanskrit root. But not the same.
i had this comic back when i was like 9, had no clue what was going on or why hulk was covered in junk but the hulk tanks the juggernaut, was pretty cool as a kid.
never thought this story would be touched upon.
Back with another banger
Some mutant named D-Cell stopped the Juggernaut because her power is to force something or someone to accelerate or decelerate, using this power although physically taxing D-Cell did bring The Juggernaut to a stop... this took place in The Juggernaut miniseries from couple of years ago. Sady, D-Cell has made no other appearance outside of the miniseries so we don't know the upper limit of her power the flip was also funny when she made The Juggernaut unable to stop because he was moving so fast, D-Cell & The Juggernaut end up being really close friends by the end of miniseries.
I haven't read comics for many years, but I have always wanted to see who would win in a fight:
Hulk vs Apocalypse
Or
Apocalypse vs Juggernaut.
Those fights would be enough to shatter the world.
I still have this comic somewhere :) I remember reading it back in the day and LOVE IT! 🤘😎🤘
I've been waiting for U to cover this Rob. Thanks. How about putting together a MARVEL FOOTBALL TEAM ?
Thanks for covering this Rob Everyone want to see This Hulk vs Juggernaut Match up were someone actually takes out Juggernaut at his best
Let’s goooo, been waiting for this!!!
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Sentry fought World War Hulk, not World Breaker Hulk. World Breaker Hulk didnt manifest until after Banner fought (and beat) Sentry and Meek Confessed about blowing up the ship that killed Hulk's wife. Juggernaut never fought World Breaker Hulk.
Hulk beat Sentry!? Tf.
@@vondervent Yep, Google World War Hulk #5
world war and world breaker hulk are the same character.
he was the World Breaker, but he got that name during the Planet Hulk/World War hulk arch.
@@thatboymeakthey are the same character but World war hulk Holds back a lot
And World Breaker Hulk still Holds back, but not as much as world war hulk
@@haryad492 lol, no. i mean they're literally the same. its just that some people use one and other people use the other.
he was the World Breaker from the start to end.
Love this fight. So epic
Wait, I have questions. So basically Apocalypse didn't actually make Hulk stronger? He just took away a mental block that was essentially holding hulk back? And towards the end, when the more traditional hulk persona started to manifest again, does that essentially mean that even celestial tech has a limited affect on Hulk?
No, the suit was enhancing his strength.
You just proved he made Hulk stronger. By removing his mental blocks... Henceforth making him stronger....
@TopTechTrendsX not really. Not in the sense of what I'm asking at least. Removing a mental block isn't actually making him stronger. He didn't give him more power. It's just allowing him to access more of the strength he already has. Banner cam remove mental blocks himself. Others can too.
Thanks Rob. I know you didn't know but its my b'day today . This kinda made my day so i wanted to say thanks. I appreciate it.
It was probably a bigger deal at the time than now... Originally Juggernaut's powers didn't have to do with momentum I think. Like Jean lifted him and he kept walking on nothing. Either this or Spidey trapping him in concrete was his first stoppage I think? He and Magneto have both been severely hampered by character development, lol.
If Spider-man trapped him in Concrete, then it likely means he was able to catch juggernaut in a moment where he stopped moving. You can hold the Juggernaut in place, because he is unstoppable... once moving, but if he is immobilized before he starts charging in a direction, he can be held in place.
You are correct on, Juggernaut's power didn't have anything to do with momentum. This was added in and has been corny ever since. Him being "unstoppable" originally was in reference to his stregth, not his momentum.
I remember reading this when I was younger and loving the hell out of it 😊
I try not to get it your comments too often because there's some very passinate people that maybe take this a little too seriously?
Or just don't like the fact that you're telling the stories of comics?
I didn't understand it last time I commented.
The coolest thing about comics is that you can write your own story lines and create whatever universe you want with characters that are already present or bake up some new ones, it's the wild wild west of storytelling.
My friend Nehemiah had this . There's a lot more than the fight! Same dude who got me into Xmen around 4/5th grade . We graduated in 1999.
Here's a little nod to all you folks who know that great science-fiction film as well! You might notice a play on names to if you're paying attention.
He always got to be wolverine on the playground. That was the price😂😂😂
So Onslaught is strong enough to overpower Juggernaut easily (landmark issue). Hulk without celestial tech stops onslaught. Yet hulk still need celestial tech to stop juggernaut? Or is it that celestial tech simply got rid of the illusion and allowed him to tap into his own power without the need to get angry ie the reason he has that gamma green hue around him when he stopped juggernaut
So what happened after x men black when juggernaut said he's going to fight cytorak
@@titanhulk702 That's what I already said . The tech did not boost his strength. The green glow /hue is a gamma energy signature meaning it's Hulk's own power.
Onslaught didnt stop cain..the fight happened off panel. All he did was punch him across the US
@@waynehardy2 I read the comic. It is always funny how someone try to explain what I already know. Title of the comic literally says "Who stopped the juggernaut" 😂 beast in the comic says the same thing. During those days you could not beat the juggernaut with any physical means. This was the first time some one did it and it was onslaught. So yes juggernaut was stopped because he was unconscious when he landed in the United States from Canada. That had never happened to Juggernaut before.
@kto0312 he wasnt unconcious actually. He was asleep. He was having a lie down after his long flight and beast woke him up from his nap snd he was grouchy
Rob how do you know exactly what kind of comic I wanna know bout every drop?
I used the War Hulk costume for my Hulk in the Marvel Heroes game, such a badass outfit and such an amazing game.
I really love the story Rob, but it was a little short, but I understand that’s not really her fault. Keep up the good work my friend.
It seems like anytime you suppress Bruce banner persona in the hulk then no one can stop the hulk.
thats some kinda power lvl War Hulk!
Stopping the juggernaut like that is extremely impressive!!
Great video. Short but great. 👍👍👍👍👍
i would ve loved to see the full panels, this close ups reduce the majesty of the comics
Best version ever!!
Hey Rob would you ever cover Venom Vs Juggernaut ? That story would be amazing in your way of storytelling please
Hulk v. Juggernaut
Hulk: “I didn’t lose, I quit”
Still have this issue. Love this one!✊✊✊🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
HELL YEAH!!! Thanks Rob!!
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Hey Rob- I know in the Avengers animated series they did an episode where Absorbing Man took on the properties of Uru after touching Thors Hammer, but I never felt okay with Thor being able to then control Absorbing Man because he commands the Hammer. Idk if I’m just way behind on this topic (if so I apologize), but if Creel took on the properties of Uru, and Thor couldn’t control him, would Creel destroy Thor in a hand-to-hand fight? If so, has this been covered in a storyline or issue?
I’d love thoughts on this from You and anyone else who has an opinion.
Thx
I really need to start reading comics..but these reviews make it so hard lol
When this story came out I remember the eye rolls when hulk stopped juggernaut. No one I knew at the time took it seriously.
LMFAO, I had extreme reservations about clicking on this video...because I assumed that Hulk would somehow get another buff to ensure that he's 'strongest there is' and Juggs would somehow be stopped....I hoped at least there would be a draw or something other than what ended up being exactly what you said, an eye roll lol. 😂
Not sure why? It's Hulk amped by Celestial technology. Sounds perfectly plausible to me. The Juggernaut got knocked out by sonics from fricking Nimrod, knocked out by being punched onslaught and sliced up by shatterstar. His powers are not absolute
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No amp just no mental blocks like when he trashed Onslaught
@@user-ke5op5vg2y - nope it isn't, some people keep saying that but it's not true. Apocalypse literally states its because of the celestial tech.
Love you're videos
Q: So, Apocalypse. What are your super powers
A: Yes.
Could you do a video on one of Marvel’s newest characters, Ghostlight?
Honestly, a fight between Juggernaut vs. The Hulk (ordinary Hulk). It would be a different conclusion.
No lie, if this was like a comic book version of a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT WWE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH, I’d end up watching or reading this matchup ten thousand times over before dying tragically of cancer or any type of accidental death over here! That’s exactly the way I view this storyline right now.
Rob should go back and cover a plethora of 90s comics.
More hulk vids👍plz
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!
I've always wanted to see a
"adamantium, vibranium and Uru" Mix
And see it as a gift to "absorbo" saying
"there's one ring to rule them all"😎
Rob you forgot that during the World War Hulk story the Hulk prevents Juggernaut from moving forward and Professor X remarks if nothing happens they both will destroy the foundation of the Mansion.
I always wanted to read this arc. Cain/Bruce fights are the best (Actually, The Hulk HAS broken free of the Crimson Bands Of Cytorrak once or twice!).
Comics Explained, please cover Maestro World War M, please?
I wonder if war Hulk became a Herald of Galactus, would the power ups stack additively, or multiplicitavely?
Hey Rob, writer of WWH himself said that Hulk stopped Juggernaut in that fight, there is a panel which shows their feet/foots and he did said that was them moment he did it
Doesn’t matter because it’s literally shown that hulk moved out of the when juggernaut charged
Would love to see the opposite some time. Some kinda powered up version of juggernaut vrs a regular hulk.
"...the strongest living creature to walk the face of the earth."
Apocalypse should have made she hulk his horseman, he could remove the memories of her getting cat called sometimes
EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER EVER DESCRIBED BY YOU VIDEO PEOPLE IS THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE FICTIONAL UNIVERSE
Dude is like we have to update our computer files from unstoppable. Lol.
"They destroy a house of WORSHIP hahahaha... I'm not sure how I feel about that"
I can take a wild guess 😏
This will forever be one of my top videos to watch just for the comment of "Rick Jones steps in and for the first time in the story, becomes useful." HAHAHAHa
I remember buying these issues when they came out.
I have this issue. Classic stuff!!
I freaking love you rob
Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)
Great video.
HELL YEAH!!
I spend FAR too much time on the internet and have been doing so since the internet became a thing when I was a teen....
And have NEVER seen that image of Hulk being throttled by Apocalypse...
me neither I want to
Literally any hero who can lift objects with their mind could defeat Hulk. Oh...Hulk slaps his hands to together and breaks their focus! Ear protection!
Should do Gladiator vs Hulk. That's a fight.
In wwh , it still counted stopped (temporary)
Because right after that, been discussed by cain and cyttorak about the event
Juggy got tossed into space by Gladiator who took a full chargeing punch from Juggy and didnt even flinch
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Titans of Power and what can challenge the raw energy of rage is someone with no powers, that is Rick Jones but curiously Rick has some unique qualities and potential due to a higher mental ability to change reality an ability he has demonstrated for a while so is his injury damgeing to his health and could cause his inner mental powers to shut down?
Apocalypse 😮 to affectly alter the Hulks mind, and perhaps his sanity is curious as I thought sometime ago, Dr. Strange tried the samething with magic, and that worked a while and drove the Hulk to mega rage it was only Rick who help to bring the old Hulk back to some normality by talking to him for a brief while of course? Love to see a rematch with these again, possibly World Beater?
It would be awesome to see on the big screen
Fine job sir
Can we also get the 8 day Juggernaut story?
Calling a mosque a house of worship is being really generous
In the Phoenix Saga in the x-men cartoon from the 90's. Gladiator threw Juggernaut into orbit.
Dis is a fight i would luv to see
Inna real gd animation scene
Everyone needs a Rick Jones
Hulk better have a rematch he will wash him now
I grew up collecting everything u cover
I thought Juggernaut was subconsciously holding back until X-Men: Black - Juggernaut Vol 1 1.
Minor correction @5:10: Onslaught didn't punch Juggernaut "across the world," but rather across North America.
to americans that is the world
@@mrfirebass Good point.
Why hasn’t Cytorrak ever tried to manipulate the Hulk into taking the mantle of Juggernaut? You’d think if he wanted an avatar of destruction, he’d find no better candidate than the Hulk infused with infinite momentum.
I would hate that 😢but you are right !!!
Hulk is kinda beyond Cytorrak if you read Immortal Hulk.
@@ExeErdnano he's not
@@ExeErdnaNo tf he isnt😂
Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk, and, the way his magic works, I don't think it is additive strength, but just a set value of it.
Like Titania and She-Hulk, this was a rivalry that could have been much better than what we were given over the years.
Juggernaut is like the Anbu black ops...We hear about how strong he is, but only witness him getting his ass beat to show how strong the person he's fighting is.
Like how he got thrown across the world by Gladiator.
@@MeatSim64 exactly. We all get excited to hear "jugg vs X" and then it turns out to be juggernaut getting his ass beat to prop the next villian/hero up. It's lame and overused
“I’ve” been asking you to cover Alpha Flight for YEARS Rob…… where’s THAT?
Destroys a house of worship. *Rob laughs.* This guy gets me. 😁
Yo Rob can you please cover valiant comics Harbinger
There's one time in the 90s xmen when gladiator first showed up and went flying