The Games of Sega Technical Institute
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Sega Technical Institute was a unique division of Sega developers and visionaries, tasked with bringing out new software for Sega's consoles. They wouldn't be around for long, but they did create some memorable games in their short and storied run.
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Episode Notes:
1. The story of Sonic Xtreme is brutal. You should look it up and read just how bad things were mishandled and just how petty some of the squabbling was.
2. Greendog is included on the off chance I missed something somewhere about its development. Interactive Designs definitely did the work, I'm just not sure what STI had to do with it.
3. Games captured via the Mega SG.
4. STI had a number of cancelled projects thanks to their Sonic endeavors. Sonic took priority over everything.
5. Yuji Naka was famously difficult to get along with. So vindictive was this dude, he actually threatened to quit Sega if STI was allowed to use the Nights engine for Sonic Xtreme. The fate of the company be damned.
6. Sonic Spinball is without question STI's weakest game IMO. I understand people love it, but man I couldn't stand it.
Man X you’re really covering every possible Sega related topic you can potentially think of and. I like it. I appreciate your creativity. You’re bringing to light games related to divisions of Sega or certain times in their past that people have never heard or have even forgotten about. Thank you!
Yeah very appreciated and happy to see other Sega focused channels now that im really digging into their deeper library and history. More popular gaming history/discussion channels tend to be way too nintendo centric, and i get why but it's tiring and a disservice to the great work of these other companies throughout the years. Now to look for some more channels that dive deeper into Capcom focus lol
I can't hear Greendog without hearing Joe from Game Sack saying it in his, uh, "special" way.
Greeeeendog !
Garreeendawwg!
G A A R E E E N D A A W G !
Gamesack is not the same without Joe.
Glad I’m not alone lol
I love how you manage to do all these videos in so little time!!! Thank you for cheering us up in France where the health situation is critical
Stay safe!
@stephen schneider Wait till you see what "global capitalism" does to the USA 🤣😂
@stephen schneider And what exactly do you mean by that?
Covid is "almost" over... It's monkeypox time now... :)
Gems sound driver defender here. Holler if you here me! Comix Zone and The Ooze have some of the best music/sound combination of the entire era. Kid Chameleon and most of Sonic Spinball's music are sweet. Greendog's music is passable.
The squabbling between Sega of America and Sega of Japan is really just backwards. We could have had the Saturn Eternal Champs game within the first 24 months of Saturns release and I am sure a few more exclusives with STI doing some amazing stuff. Great job, stay safe!
Kid Chameleon was a big surprise for me when I tried it in the Genesis Mini. How well designed it was. It needed more sequels IMO
The Comix Zone Ost isn't just half decent, it's amazing!
For a GEMS-driven soundtrack, sure. Still way too "twangy" to be excellent though. It ain't no Streets of Rage or Shinobi soundtrack, that's for sure.
It definitely was a very of it's time soundtrack.
If you didn't like grunge and that kind of sound you were going to hate that soundtrack.
I personally love it though. There's a special place in my heart for this game.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu is not that the soundtrack is bad, it's the gems sound driver and it's instrument samples that sound terrible, bringing down the overall quality of the soundtrack.
Altima I disagree, this the one and only exception that I know of where Gems actually shines. The heavy grungy 90s guitar works perfectly as it is and I wouldn't prefer any other way. Subjectivity is the case here it seems. A couple of the songs even have some acoustic guitar notes that work surprisingly well.
It makes the horrible GEMS sound driver sound very good. Both Tommy Tallarico and Mark Miller were the only good composers for the program.
Dude, the way you play those Blue Orb stages is absolutely infuriating.
I thought for sure he was doing it on purpose. I had no idea that you could even get all the chaos emeralds without encircling the blue spheres.
I was feeling exactly the same ! XD
I used to play it the exact same way up until about a year ago... Hahaha 😅😂 someone pointed that out to me too... And I never realized I made them SO MUCH harder than I had to after all these years lmaooo
Every time I see that 3D sonic footage I'm convinced not releasing it was for the best.
Sonic Xtreme... It still hurts... :'(
It hurts to look at, glad that tech demo didn't come out.
Man I was looking forward to it too. The weird fish eye thing seemed so cool to me at the time.
@@AltimaNEO It sure looked cool, but I couldn't see how they would make it playable with some speed or just fun to play. Other than being a nice tech demo, releasing a Sonic game with such an engine would have been a huge mistake and a big failure anyway. That said, there were other concept demos that were kind of promising.
@@Shyning77 I think the idea was that the fisheye would let you see farther ahead, but yeah. In the long run, it probably wasnt practical.
I wholeheartedly agree with every sentiment expressed about Sonic spinballs flaws. This is coming from a big Sonic fan I might add!
Your videos have always been incredible but right now they're truly amazing. Just got done with work and need something high quality to watch while having a drink. Perfect timing! Cheers!
Hey when on a Blue Sphere Bonus Stage try to get the spheres around the boarder of the Blue Speres that are 3x3 for example. When you get all around the square like pattern the red and blue spheres will turn to rings!😃👍
Yep, I've never seen anyone collect the spheres as shown on the video. Collect all the spheres around the perimeter!
That part of the video was mildly infuriating
@@eponymous7910 I did for years thinking "Man, this is a slog to get Super Sonic!" and then I saw someone on CZcams just do the outside and I was like "20 yrs of my life...WTF man."
When I was watching I was thinking I guess he doesn't know about the boarder....
I literally never even considered that there was another way than doing the perimeter and getting the rings. Even in Sonic Mania that's how I do it, my mind is blown to find it's not just possible, but there are people who didn't know that the perimeter was an option lol
Honestly I think that Kid Chameleon has quite a decent soundtrack for a game that uses the gems driver.
I sometimes get the opening track stuck In my head. Pretty good, if you like that beat.
Further proof that its not the tool, its the skill of the person using it.
4:59 “Interactive Designs” wow what a very creative and unique name for a game development company. Definitely instills confidence.
love all this new content to watch on my "coronavirus lockdown" here! thanks brother!
"Gaining new powers from wearing different masks.." hmmmm...
Die hard was me and my best friend's go to game at the arcade when it came out. it was a really underrated co-op beat'em up.
That game was epic
@Ben Hill nice!
I always thought Comix Zone and The Ooze were the only games they made.
It’s their only games with their logo prominently displayed.
QWWERTY77 UIOOP Same but just for Comix Zone, CZcams over the years has educated me!
@@SegaLordX Hi X, commenting here , so you see my message. Great video as well! Dick Tracy, perfect game execution and hard at the same time. This year, precisely in October, Super Monaco GP get 30 years old on Sega Genesis/Mega Drive. Do you have any material about this great game, making of, interviews, curiosities....? In a Facebook Community we play Super Monaco GP (1 and 2) Championships, till the present days... Thank you! Nelson
I never really payed attention to the people behind the scenes when i was younger, thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention x. And you are so right about die hard arcade, loved that game. But i was always frustrated by lack of a new streets of rage game for the saturn.
Even though the cover art disagrees, I can't see that thing in Green Dog's head as anything but a hat.
comix zone is the best genesis game i owned growing up HANDS DOWN and by a large margin
Please stay virus free in bad times like these everyone and Sega Lord X
Kid Chameleon is memorable especially because despite being a relatively minor title it was distinguished with its own comic strip in the UK Egmont-Fleetway "Sonic the Comic". Alongside Decap Attack it was perhaps the most obscure title STC picked up. I wrote a follow-up for STC Online years ago and several pages were drawn but editorial decided to scrap it.
Wasn't Decap Attack made by Vic Tokai?
Kid chameleon surprises me. It's not that well known and didn't sell well. But when I was a kid, I remember seeing commercials for it all the time. On TV and in gaming magazines. They also had it playing at the Genesis kiosks at toys r us and Sears.
Starting to think I'm the only person that loved Spinball. I thought it's music was fantastic, if a bit repetitive. Gameplay hasn't held up, but I loved exploring it's section-based boards. Plus that robo snake in the ball pit always ignited my imagination.
I had it for the Master System, and boy did it suck...
I rented it pretty often for a few years
The way you played the blue sphere levels drove me nuts lmao
Dick Tracy is one of my favourite games of all time, and I’ve never even seen the film
kid chameleon is underrated and AWESOME!!!
On the Megadrive Mini you can now save your games so that issue with KC is now fixed and hopefully more people will get to fully enjoy it.
Dude the ooze soundtrack was banging i loved this game i played it in 96 when it got cheap
I didnt discover it until I got one of the small Atgames "single toast-belt buckle" systems, I had to get that cartridge and enjoy the game. It's an amazing game with a dark, but funny story.
As a Nintendo and Super Nintendo fan at the time, I was envious of these Sega games that pushed boundaries a bit, with the apex being Toejam and Earl. Great video, thank you sir.
Great video and they were a loss to the Saturn, it still baffles me why very few Megadrive games came forward to the Saturn in any capacity especially Streets of Rage. As for Sonic, I always felt that the stage in Sonic Jam was actually a good starting point for building a 3D Sonic game for the system. Just imagining a world where the Saturn sold better and thinking what Sega Technical Institute, Sonic Team, Am2 and Team Andromeda could have come up with. Such a missed opportunity
Loved Kid Chameleon, still have it. One of the few games of that era where I still recall so many of the enemies - that game was work for a pre-teen kid!! Rock 'n Roll Racing was probably one of my favourites - Larry Huffman as the announcer just made it amazing - and you could see like a whole foot more of the track than in Micro-Machines..
I don't know HOW you keep coming up with stuff! And I like them all! We don't always agree, but your honesty is what keeps us coming back for more!!
I'm gonna level with you here:
Comix Zone is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time.
Yeah, not just my favorite Genesis game, but one of my top 5 games of all time.
I personally really enjoy Greendog and its music.
Disagree with you on Green Dogs music. I loved it. It's composed very well.
I cannot tell you how much your channel means to me. You were so passionate about retro games I just never met you but I feel like you’re my long lost brother :-) hope you and your family are doing good during this awful time
Dude, me and my brothers or to many hours in to Kid Chameleon along with some other of these games. We grew tired of always having to play the first couple of levels, but once you were able to start warping, we looked to try and find all the different paths. Such a great and challenging have
Stronger sountrack for kid chameleon?. For me it is one of the best ever!!! I love all the songs. The chase level music gives me nightmares until today.
I remember back in the 90s when ever you found out a game was made in the west you better hold on to your receipt and pray your local game store takes returns 😂
When I grow up, I wanna be an awesome content creator like Sega Lord X here. 😀
Great stuff, sir. You've not just reminded me of some brilliant games I'd almost forgotten about, but introduced me to some I'd never heard of. Not only that, I'm now much more aware of the development teams and individuals involved in making some of the stuff that improved my childhood because of your videos. 👍
Also, don't let Joe from Game Sack hear you slagging Green Dog off! 😂
sega lord x is just killin' with the sega content
thank you Sega Lord X for keepin' us entertained during this time of crisis the whole world is going through
OOZE had an amazing soundtrack!
Great episode, Lord X!
It was amazing to remember those titles with this new perspective you gave me.
Yeah... I can only imagine all the great titles they could’ve done if the teams were better handled. Really a business issue.
Thank you!!
sonic pinball was so noticeably sluggish, but had a lot of potential.
Started Comix Zone today on steam. Dunno why I shrugged it off back when I had the opportunity to play it on the Sonic Mega collection when I was younger. The concept, mechanics and presentation are awesome. And Alissa is already a new Sega waifu lol.
I loved Kid Chameleon's soundtrack. Its a classic game for me
I really love your content, it's really helping me get through these tough times
Not long discovered your channel, really great work! Keep it up!
I want to thank you for your hard work doing these awesome videos I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel!!!!!!
I didn't know about Sonic pinball, I had Dragons Fury, that was a really good pinball game.
Dragons Fury is the best video game pinball ever.
Sonic Spinball was at least worth a weekend rental in my opinion.
Nice video. Keep them comming . How about one with the difference between MegaDrive and MegaCD games, when same title was released for both systems, like Eternal Champions.
Being a big Sonic fan. I dont blame you for your lack of interest in Sonic Spinball. I tried it many times, giving it a chance. But it just, IMHO, aint a goid Sonic game 😅
But I must say, the way you did the special stage in Sonic 3, that kinda hurt. Never got any of the rings. And you walked over all the blue balls. You need to surround them.
The Mega CD Eternal Champions game was a semi-sequel of the Mega Drive's, it was not the same title.
I agree with the statement that Kid Chameleon could've been better with a battery backup and an improved soundtrack; maybe someone could make a quality of life hack...
Great video as usual.
Make a video about Sega Interactive, the guys behind Greendog, Eternal Champions, Garfield, Dinnosaurs for Hire and the long lost Super Star Wars (try to get info about it beyond and why it was cancelled late in development) for the Sega Genesis and Sega CD. Hidden palace finally found a really early prototype of it and theres late builds somewhere...
Talespin, Bonkers and Star Wars Arcade aswell.
Great episode, learned a lot! looking forward to other Sega division dedicated episodes like this!
Sonic Xtreme being canceled really bummed me out as a kid, that was the game that made me want a Sega Saturn. I used to look at articles about it all the time in game magazines.
Great video! I started at STI as an environment and character artist just as they were starting work on Kid Chameleon. It was a great place to work and a group of very talented people… until it wasn’t. After the teams split things got weird. STI had several games that, had they been able to finish them, could have gone on to be A+ titles; ie Kinetic/Jester, Astropede, Spinny & Spike. By the time I left in 1995 the writing was on the wall that STI’s future was seriously in doubt. (And it was definitely no longer an enjoyable place to work)
I have no idea why Green Dog is said to have been done by STI?!?! I have NO memory of it and I was at STI from 1990-1995.
You are very lucky to have worked with the great Yuji Naka.
I love all your videos and views. You ever considered trying to do a sega channel type of episode?
Even though they fell apart Sonic 2 is a real gem. Easily one of the best Sonic games
4:44 Greendog is Monkey D. Luffy from 1992 before the One Piece OVA came in 1998 and Manga in 1997.
Die Hard Arcade! I really wish they would re-release that one on modern systems. Wikipedia claims Japan got it on PSN, but not us.
You know, it's funny. We have at our fingertips the ability to access a wealth of knowledge that every generation before us never had and somehow I didn't know all these games were made by STI which just burns my pee...wait a minute. But seriously, I know some people don't like Kid Chameleon or Sonic Spinball but they were and still are some of my favorite games on the system with Chameleon being one of the first games I played on the Genesis when we would rent it (yep, renting consoles was a thing for the younger audience). Thanks once again for pumping out the content, it's keeping me entertained through a rough patch of recovering from surgery and others through the quarantines, stay safe and healthy and remember to not burn yourself out.
Also, EVERYONE, you are allowed to like and dislike games, everyone has different tastes in gaming (I for one LOVE FMV games) so if you see a game you don't personally like just be cool :)
By the way X did you see the little 12 minute vid from the guys putting together “Streets of Rage 4” with the interview of Yuzo Koshiro and how he approached the music he created for the game based upon his influences and experiences creating the music for Streets of Rage 2? If not I highly recommend to watch it ASAP! It’s amazing.
Oh man, I love STI and his games.
Seeing their logo the first time, when I was 7y old and I was "discovering" Sega, I was too shock for his coolness!Even more when I played Comix Zone for the first time! Magic!
Thanks for this speedy surprise, hope you stay distant from stupid Covid, thanks Sega King X!
p.s. The famous "The Sega Experience on the OG XBOX" video when will came out?
(sorry for my bad english, bro)
Thank you SEGA Lord X for all of these wonderful sugestions, because now I have cool game to spend my time and keep the good work, because I like so much your work👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Being able to shoot the background in Dick Tracy and playing as Knuckles in older Sonic games blew my young mind.
I really like Sonic Spinball, also folks forget it launched at $30. I"m so glad Sonic 3 wasn't isometric, I never was very good at those kind of games :). Also I don't think Jackson's legal problems were the issue, he didn't like the Genesis' sound chip.
I think it's much more of a reason that he was in court defending himself against child abuse allegations. Bad PR. But I guess people will always choose the explanation they prefer lol.
That Gens emulator solved my save state problems when i was a kid. I dont even remember how i found out about emulators back in like 2004
Love your content man SEGA boys forever
whaat? how can you not like GREEEN DAAAAWG?
I have heard that Die Hard Arcade was allegedly meant to be a new Streets of Rage game before transforming into Die Hard Arcade. I am unsure how true that is though.
I believe this is Dynamite Cop in Japan, or maybe it's called that just in the arcade?
Yes, Dynamite Cop, I believe.
@@Kokomadeta In the west Sega got the Die Hard license to sell the game better.
I think that the game that was intended to be a new Street's of Rage game was Fighting Force but Sega rejected the idea and it ended being a PSX and N64 release, without a Saturn version.
@@Hektols Fighting Force was also pitched as an idea for a new Streets of Rage.
when i finally die, i hope the afterlife has a finished copy of sonic x-treme
Hi Lord! I love your channel! Have a question that has been in my mind for some time. In Comix Zone, I rememeber the shadows were not linear when I played the first time in a Sega Genesis MK II, but now i see everywhere these linear shadows, eve in the Sega Genesis for Steam. This is an effect that was lost in the newer Genesis models or I´m just having a Mandela effect?
Another excellent video as always but man, it was painful watching the Sonic 3 special stages...
i really happy with list of greatest institutes games who will be incredible for graphics
Sonic X-Treme is a game that makes me dream. More like a fever dream.
Granted, if it actually went out, i bet it wouldn't be as memorable as it is from those strange concept video. After all, the concept is a bit like Bugs but with a better physical engine and presentation... And a funky camera.
... But i have a weird obsession with "how developpers tried to make 3D plateformer before Mario 64 came out" and Sonic X-treme is like a window to a world that will never be.
All right a new video
sonic 2 was one of the first sonic games I played but got sonic spinball with my first Genesis it was model 2 with eternal champions sonic spinball and NBA jam TE, the jungle book and Asterix and the great rescue, and a 6 button controller. I enjoyed sonic spinball I liked the music for some reason took a while to beat.
My favorite games from this video *every sonic game especially sonic X-treme.* and comix zone.
Great work Sir thank you for the great work
Awesome videos sega lord X cant wait for the next one.
Dick Tracy for Genesis...one of my all time faves love that game
lol I know u hate greendog I don't know why I love it XD nice video as always
How extreme? Sonic X-TREME!! With X-TREME Tude!😎
I don't know how much I like Green dog...i like what they were trying to do art wise.
It would have looked great on 32x. I mean bas long as it handled backgrounds.
so many of STI games ooze of potential.
You know that in Sonic 3 you can just get the blue spheres on the perimeter of a group of them to collect them all and turn them into rings?
No fun in playing a game the same way for 25 years. ;)
Just subbed!!! Keep up the good work!
I feel like Sonic Spinball had a lot of potential, and could have made a solid spin-off series for Sonic. If it wasn't rushed in 3 months, it could have had more levels and more fluid gameplay. If you turn the game speed on in options to fast, it actually makes it a bit better. This should have been the default speed.
With Kid Chameleon I say thank God for the Sega Genesis mini and save states 😂. I have never wanted to attempt to play through this game otherwise.
I think Comix Zone can be played and beaten without alot of mandatory damage but it does take a few playthroughs to learn the level design. There are bombs that can be torn from the wall from your rat, and item planning and seeking the best route is strongly encouraged. At first it seems like that but with time I was able to avoid alot of damage that at first seemed mandatory, very tough game, and the only Gems soundtrack that is fantastic imo.
awesome video man!
Another reason why Michael Jackson’s name wasn’t mentioned in Sonic3 was because he hated his own music and wanted his name taken off and after the legal issues, Sega was definitely more than compliant with his request
I love this channel
You're not alone when it comes to Sonic Spinball, I tried to give it a good go but it just feels really rough around the edges compared to the other Sonic games that are also available on Mega Drive/Genesis.
Sonic pinball is a classic! I beat the hell outta that game! Try to take your time playing it.
As a kid, Comix Zone was interesting but frustrating due to its difficulty. Later I enjoyed it more with cheat codes.
This is an awesome video, covering so many classics. I do have to mention that STI was the worst choice for a company name abbreviation though.
Always wanted this video to be a thing
Something I always wondered with Dick Tracy for the Genesis. In the instructions, it says "The Kidd" can be found, and he can give you more health during the game. Problem is, he isn't in the game. Possibly the developers removed him or he was never finished? Is he in the Master System version?
very informative video, had no idea about most of this stuff, Cerny hasn't aged a day