Tech Review: Alienware M15 R3 Thermals and QA!
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2020
- Hey!
Posting my second video on my Alienware M15 R3. I know its a little rough but it still has some good information on thermals, benchmarking, and some questions i received in the chats! - Věda a technologie
Great video man! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Great video! keep up the amazing work!
Thank you! Will do!
Good vid your really gaining lots of subs I’m happy for you bro keep it up 😃
Thanks!
Thinking of getting this. But, thermal is such an issue i dont wanna deal with when spending big money. What are other alternative ?
What is the weight of the power brick?
Great vid! Thank you man
Thanks!
hey AV, what do you think is a good idle base CPU/GPU temp on the M15 R3?
Dope vid!
Appreciate it!!
Great video! In the previous video you mentioned swapping the boot and storage drives, can you please do a video doing it? I’m not really a tech guy and I can’t seem to find a video on swapping the drives. Also, I’m thinking of getting the i7 version with the rtx 2070 gpu and save $600 bucks, do you think it’s worth it or should I go with the Rtx 2080? Thank you in advance and great work keep it up!
Yeah i'll put up a quick video on changing the boot drives. Its pretty easy as you just have to reinstall a fresh copy of windows on your PC and choose the smaller drive.
@@advancedvector6833 really waiting on a quick tutorial on how to change the boot drive to 512gb ssd instead of having it on 2tb ssd. Waiting for my m15r3 to arrive in a week and would really appreciate some help!
very informative videos, keep it up! :)
Thanks for all of the work you put into this/these videos as it has helped me a lot with my M15 R3. BTW bestbuy is selling an open box option and I picked one up locally in "satisfactory" condition that actually looks pretty much new to me for $1615. Mine is 300Hz display, i7, RTX 2070 Super. I was actually looking at ROG Strix with straight-up RTX 2070 when I found the alienware M15 deal. My screen came with basically 0 light bleed (relieved).
8020 points in Furmark 1080p test right out of the box, but CPU goes straight to 100C without passing go or collecting $200 when testing P95. Looking to undervolt this i7 and maybe repaste.
The new ROG Strix they have coming out is i7 (supposed to have liquid metal factory installed), RTX 2070 (not maxq) 1tb ssd, 2x 4 watt speakers, 240Hz 1080p and that nice Strix design for $1499. That mobo is accessible and ram is upgradeable.
Still, 2070 Super in the Alienware is a beast.
Could you tell me sth about battery life ? Thx
@@crunchym2297 it's bad. Lol. Actually since I'm typically playing around with the performance type settings for a laptop like this then I'll see like one - two hours for normal stuff. However the Alienware is extremely easy and quick to switch between profiles or turn on/off OC. Then change the little battery icon on the Windows desktop tray to " better battery" and about 4-5 hours for web browsing. I didn't test it through but that is what the battery icon indicator was saying.
Does the laptop only come with a single stick of ram or 2 sticks for dual channel?
It is dual channel
Hey AV, sorry if you said and I missed it, but do you happen to know the watt rating for the 2080 Super Max-q. I got the same version you have and asked the salesman, but he didn't know. I have seen that there is an 80 and a 90-watt version that NVIDIA made. I would just like to know which one I'm getting. Cheers and thanks for your videos- they're great!
Hey! I was sent the wrong model up front and only have the 2070. I am finally supposed to get my replacement that has the 2080 in it today. I'll be doing a video today or tomorrow that covers the differences.
@@advancedvector6833 Thanks AV. I look forward to it. Thank you for making these videos. I have been helped by your content.
I’m trying to decide between the Alienware m17 R3 or the new Razer Blade 17 but review videos on either are hard to find
Yeah I feel you. Part of why i decided to do this review to begin with was no one else out there seems to be doing it. Its like dell didnt even try to launch this laptop correctly. I went to all my usual CZcamsrs to get info on what i should buy and no one had anything other than promotional garbage. I took a shot in the dark and purchased the top of the line model and here we are!
I want to buy m17 r3.. What do u suggest? Honestly speaking? Also my 1st choice is rog scar 3..
Hows the thermal issue?
@@j.banzon I have research. The main if not only grief about m15, m17 is thermal issue.
So I’ve ordered the i9 with 2080 max q also. Do you think the same throttling issues will be present with 2080? Since you’ve tested yours with i9 and 2070? Looking forward to the repasting video...gonna use that as a guide to do mine :)
I didn’t notice any throttling in the GPU so I’m hoping that with the lower power draw of the 2080 max q I can pull a little more of the heat off the i9. Between that and the repaste I’m hoping it’s at least usable.
Advanced Vector so what’s the point of offering i9 and 2080 and charging damn near 4K if it’s makes the laptop barely usable? What’s the logic there 👀
probably because people like me will buy it just having to have the best! lol in all honestly I think the extra cores will help me out a lot when i'm streaming/recording and playing a game. Even gaming doesn't juice up the CPU that much and just having extra cores to handle transcoding etc...will make a difference. I'm going to do some more testing to see but thats my thought process. I'm ok if i have to underclock to 4GHz as long as I get better utility out of all my cores. I do have a dedicated streaming PC but its a pain to deal with and just clicking record/stream and diving into a game is way smoother.
Advanced Vector sorry if I misunderstood but you said without repasting I’m pretty much gonna have a super hot laptop that throttles a lot? Would you be able to do a game test when they install the 2080 for you? Like csgo and valorant or doom? :)
Great video!
Really helpfull. Bit dissapointed of the thermals. I'll go for a ge75 raider I guess.
Anyway, thank you so much!!!
Glad I could help!
Hey! So this might not be the right place to ask this question but my new m15 r3 is not recognising any hdd/sdd/boot drive after a windows update. In bios there are no drives recognised at all! What do I do? I've looked under the hood and the SSD seems to be seated properly... I only have one 512 GB SSD from factory. Please help! Will contact Dell support tomorrow but I'd really rather not have to send it back, I've only just got it a day ago!!
That does sound like and update of somekind broke your system. At this point since its new i'd suggest just going through Dell support. Depending on where you live you may be able to just have a technician come to your house.
@@advancedvector6833 Thank you for the reply. Yeah it really seems the Windows update did it... I guess I'll have to go through support...
its the same touchpad as the xps series which is great, the smaler nvme drive is a 2230 which is standard the only downside is that they are sometimes slower as they dont have a dram cache, the deck is powdercoated aluminum with a protective coating unlike the macbook where it is brushed aluminium.
Thanks for this! I was really undecided about the deck. Its cool to get some conformation because sometimes it feels like aluminum but sometimes it doesnt! without putting a big scratch in it i couldnt really tell.
Advanced vector when you repaste it could you please do a tutorial because I want to repaste mine too because the thermals drop down a solid 20-30 degrees could you do the repasting tutorial for the m15 r3 thanks
I'll do it! My thermal paste is supposed to get to my house today. I was gonna wait and just do it when I do the mobo swap but lots have people have been asking so i'll do it now. It'll allow me to do better testing with the i9/2070 combo as well before i get the 2080.
@@advancedvector6833 thanks dawg✌🏽
What abt i7 10750h will it push to 100 degrees or less than that of i9 ?
Hey! I can't speak to how the i7 would perform as I dont have it however based on my previous experience i7's have done a lot better thermally than the i9's in laptops. I would expect the i7's to be a more reasonable cpu in this machine.
@@advancedvector6833 thanks👍👍
Just bought a m15 r3 rtx 2060 with the upgraded screen lunar white and upgraded keyboard and i'm so excited! I know it differs but how long of shipping should i expect because i know dell overestimates.
Will i be over heating with the i7?
It took them about 3 weeks to get me my laptop they had estimated 4
I have heard reports that even the i7 runs a little hot however I would expect you to have better results than the i9
"Send it back."
Really, do they really send you the new one if you return it? Till when can the laptop be returned?
You have 30 days from the date of delivery to return it. I would have to send it back and then purchase again so wait another month but yes I can and will do this if i can't get the i9 to behave. :p
The i7 also runs hot, undervolting helps a little but still you will reach 100c right off the box
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Hi, I am planning to buy the m17 r3 laptop. If ever I am not happy with the thermals, can I just return it? Is it true that they will charge me with 15% restocking fee if ever? I am not willing to pay that 15%.. too expensive for me. You seem to have enough experience with Dell. What do you think?
I have returned a few products to Dell and have never had to pay a restocking fee. However if you are not in the US then perhaps they have different terms. You should definitely check with dell support to verify.
@@advancedvector6833 I just ordered mine today and will arrive in 3 weeks. If ever you decide to undervolt, please post a video. Also, have you heard about decreasing the power limit which can decrease the temp as well? I don't know how true. I just saw that some are set at 80 to 90 watts and others at 50 to 60 watts. Please check the backlight bleed as well. I have returned my MSI because of too much bleed. I am a newbie so sorry. Thanks!
Hi AV, thank you very much for your video.
Actually, I just got the new AW M15 R3 i7 10750H with GeForce 2070 super. I would like to get your advice to under volt this bad boy. now each time I made some tests, I was not able to not stress the thermal throttling.
thank you
I used the Furmark GPU stress test. It has a built in CPU burner that will maximize CPU usage that you can use to test your computer under load.
Advanced Vector, thank you very much for your response. Keep doing like that. Your videos are beneficial
Hey Vector, in your next video a recommended mention about the small SK hynix 512gb is only available when purchasing the laptop currently and cannot be purchased on its own. However, the small SK hynix 256gb and 128gb options are available but not the 512gb. This will be good for the viewers when deciding what storage option to go for. Lets get them subs to 100 🙌🏻
Hey thats a great tip! I did a cursory search for the small drives but didn't come across anything. I'll be sure to mention it. I'm actually uploading my next video as I type this but i'm recording the tear down/re-pasting video so i'll mention it in that.
I have the small slot filled with a 1t drive its from a Chinese company and appears as a HD in bios but it is a proper ssd
Good info, thanks for taking the time to answer these. Bummer that the thermals are the same as last year. Also, cool hat! :-)
Thanks!
Ya man cool hat
yomething with the temperatures look wrong the cpu famoiusly goes to 90-100c but the gpu normaly stays around 60c, could you do another test with intel xtu and go to the bechmark tab and stress test until the temp stabalises. great vid it looks like i will be getting it just got to wait for dell to have them in france or until i go to scotland in september
Yeah the CPU does jump up to 100c while i stress it. The tests i showed above are more of a simulation from 3dmark that replicates gameplay. I'll download that utility and get some numbers for you.
@@advancedvector6833 i think il go with the i7 2070 super and 32gb of ram, thanks for the videos
I think that in the end of the day The right question will be like a:
“would you buy it again if you hadn’t got it, but taking into account all the knowledge and experience that you will have in a week or two)?”
Yeah. I meant to do something like this but I was in a rush to get the video out. Honestly as it sits now on stock paste if I didnt have the ability/skill to repaste it I would likely get everything the same but go with the i7. I may feel different after repasting if it sees significant improvment on thermals for the i9. My paste is ariving today(thank you amazon) so i'm going to do my tear down video and repasting with Kryonaut to see if it helps.
Advanced Vector Good luck man! I’m on your side! Really want to buy m15r3 oled 2080 and only one Q that I have it’s which one: i9 or i7? ;)
So I’m really hoping that everything will play great for you with this system.
And thanks again for your pioneer videos ;)
I've been reading on other reviews in Reddit these past few days. I've already seen 2 people return their M15 R3 and M17 R3 due to bad thermals and just asked for a refund. Both of them had the i7 10750H.
I planned to also buy the M15 R3 but due to the bad thermals, I might just switch to an MSI GS66 or MSI GS75.
@@paolords you should look at the eluktronics mag/max 15/17 if looks arent a concern
Paolo Eclarin the GS66 also had bad thermals (not nearly as bad as m15 though), the GE66 or the GS75 like you mentioned is far far better. The GE66 with its i7 doesn’t even reach 80C (i9 reaches 85C) at Max stress (so about 15-20C less than m15)
so does this model include the vapor chamber based cooling system?
also start a game like watch dogs or gta V and run it for some time, so that we can see the live thermals ffs
Yes according to the web page listing this does have a Vapor Chamber in it for cooling the CPU. It doesnt call out the GPU as using it specifically but it does say they share heat pipes so i'm guessing they both use the same technology as part of Dells new cryo-tech cooling technology.
@@advancedvector6833 so m17 r3 has vapor chamber?
I don't have an m17 r3 however I would think it would have the same if not better technology than the m15. You'd have to check the page on the alienware website to confirm.
I bought M15 R3 , I7, 2070 8GB, I tried playing call of duty warzone, during the playtime , I cant even touch the keyboards , since the temperatures touches 100C, I contacted dell they ran some test and they told me that my laptop have issues with heatsink, even they sent me a technician to replace it, but even after that the thermals are horrible. So i have returned it. Good info though.
R1 doesn’t do that lol. Should’ve got the R1
I rather prefer your channel than the others... I mean Canuck Hardware or Tom’s Hardware. Greetings from France dude. Keep improving
Wow, thanks!
Could you do a video of yourself re-pasting Id like to see how to do that.
Hey. While i do appreciate your interest in this. There are already many video's out there on how to apply thermal paste. The one from Linus Tech Tips is really good and the one I suggest.
Thnx Man!
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FYI: it looks like you have an issue with touchpad (bad assemble)...
and plz test webpage scrolling with it. The m15r2 has some kind of lag between you action and the page scrolling.
Previously I had an AW M15 r1 and it was very low quality system... It was throttled all the time and bunches of other issues (oled screen with a “bend defects”, bad touchpad assembly, etc).
Looks like dell simply do not care about quality of AW products....
I have used the scrolling and didn’t notice any kind of lag with it as of yet. I don’t know if I got bad assembly or if I just need to break in the touchpad I guess time will tell.
Actually, it is quite wired if the GPU only stays at around 60 degrees while the GPU stays at 90-100 degrees if they are both under full workloads. It doesn't make sense the thermal heat pipes have such high different working efficiencies. Especially, the old R2 version can reach over 100 degrees for CPU. That's the most urgent thermal problem for m series. In my opinion, you may have to try the Intel XTU and AIDA 64. These softwares are more reliable and accurate. Anyway, thanks for the review!
I did do some testing with Prime95 and furmark simultaniously to put both CPU and GPU under full load. After 30 minutes and the temp results were similar. i9 sits at 100c while the GPU hits about 75c
@@advancedvector6833 Really strange machine. Just can't understand how Dell lab design for it. Thanks for your reply.
Please please please do some gaming benchmarks while you still have the 2070 super, I would also recommend Steelseries Arctics Pro Game Dac headphones, best audio on the market
I released another video that covers a few games I play. I will admit i have not been that much of a gamer over the last few years but playing some Monster Hunter Iceborn and Ark: Survivial Evolved on this thing this morning was hands down the best experience i've had. It was even more enjoyable than a desktop build i did a few years ago that had watercooled and OC'd SLI 980 TI's.
@@advancedvector6833 this comment is worth it
A new laptop and your having the motherboard and gpu replaced, you should just tell them to send you a replacement unit with the gpu u paid for.
I was really hoping the thermal would have been good with there upgraded cooling system and vapor chamber.
If there is one thing i would ask for is linux compatibility, though if you never used or installed linux don’t do it you might damage windows files and for some people it might be a pain to restore windows. I already ordered the m15 r3 but cancelled the order... linux compatibility is a deal changer for me...
And please battery life?
Yeah i'll do it. People have already been asking me for a tutorial on how to swap the boot drives so i'll likely be doing another clean install so I can put linux on it. Any specific flavor or is Ubuntu ok? I'm actually a linux administrator by trade so no worries there!
Advanced Vector omg yes any linux distro will be okay thank you!! Also if you can check battery life on linux i would be sooo thankful!
Based on recent generations i9 is too much to handle thermally for this chassis. i7 is I think the limit. Even i7 can be difficult to handle but was hoping to see some improvements in this serie. So maybe you can get better experience with i7
I agree! I am going to repaste and do more testing but I may be sending it back to get the i7.
@Ro Mel Because it's MSI. Not overpriced Alienware. But i can't confirm wheter it's true or not.
From what I have seen the MSI is also larger and more bulky than this laptop. Its hard to do a fair comparison with a laptop thats 20% larger. This one feels like a more direct competitor to the Razr laptops. I almost did purchase a Razr but decided to give AW a chance since they have always been good for me in the past.
Advanced Vector the gs66 stealth serie is competitive with m serie. It is not bulky and big. Maybe you can check it out.
I am pretty confident that the 2070 super gives better FPs in games than the 2080 max q
That could be the case. I'll know for sure when i get my 2080.
i returned this laptop because i was hitting 100 degrees on all cores no matter wha ti did. I couldnt get the undervolt to stick and repasting looks like a bitch since the board is flipped. This is a premium gaming laptop so we shouldnt be going through all this hassle. I ended up getting the MSI ge66 raider and thermals never went above 80 during my benchmarks.
Yeah a lot of people have been going that way since its thermals seem better. I personally am not a fan of MSI laptops but there is a laptop for everyone. I'm glad to hear that MSI is working out for you.
Don't know if it was a laptop review or face review 🤷♀️🤷♀️
The real question is did you learn anything? Shouldn't matter what you look at as long as you are getting good information. All that aside I did feel a little bad I didn't have something more visually appealing to look at. That being said creating these video's is a lot more work than you'd think and even creating background footage is very time consuming. Unfortunately I still have a day job so I have to try and cram as much in during the evenings to do my CZcams content. Thanks for the comment nonetheless and I will do my best to make things more appealing in the future.
@@advancedvector6833 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you but I think you should show the laptop in the most of the video it would be more interesting.
@@advancedvector6833 best reply ever mate. Sure did learn alot about the machine. Thanks keep going.
I knew they wouldn't really fix it by much. Area 51m all the way!
I considered the 51 but for my needs i really needed something practical that I could travel with and take to business meetings. It is a great looking laptop for sure however it is pretty bulky. From my personal needs if i was going that route i'd probably just build a desktop as it would hardly ever leave my house!
Your graphs are unreadable. Try plotting the data in Excel or OriginLab
Why are your nails painted? dude
I thought it would be fun to do when I was out with my wife the other day.
Hey if you like videos and you put your face on full screen like that at least shave a bit
I’ll try to keep that in mind.
Mind your own face, asshole. He can look however he wants to look like. Don't shove your insecurities on another person.
Good vid your really gaining lots of subs I’m happy for you bro keep it up 😃
Yeah its been crazy! I doubt it will all stick but i'm happy with my 2 minutes of fame!
Advanced Vector na bro keep your head up you can do it your awesome