Marzocchi 888 RC3 EVO V2 mountain bike fork full service - MARZOCCHI
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Hi, Guys! In this video I show you full service of MARZOCCHI mountain bike front fork - Marzocchi 888 RC3 EVO V2 2014 ! Here we disassemble fork, inspect all parts, change oil and of course assemble it.
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0:00 Вступление
0:47 Unscrew bottom bolt and nut.
1:02 Remove upper adjustment knobs. Be careful with small balls under knobs.
1:38 Unscrew top caps.
2:56 With fast rotational movement unscrew bottom nut.
3:31 Remove RC3 cartridge.
4:02 Push old oil out from cartridge.
4:45 Unscrew spring rod bolt.
8:57 Legs is in Perfect condition after 3 years of usage! With right service gold coating works great!
9:40 Remove spring rod for cleaning and visual inspection.
10:21 Spring rod looks like new!
11:41 Install spring rod.
12:07 Fill seals with new grease which is not aggressive to rubber.
13:43 Screw in the spring rod bolt.
14:05 Clean RC3 cartridge out of old oll.
14:41 Install RC3 cartridge.
15:10 Screw nut to the RC3 cartridge.
15:41 Fill RC3 cartridge leg with 285ml of 7.5W synthetic fork oil.
16:48 Fill spring leg with 80ml of 7.5W synthetic fork oil. Do NOT use grease on spring!!!
17:13 Instal spring and spring tentioner.
18:17 Tighten bottom bolt and nut with 10Nm. DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN!
18:47 Instal O-ring and compression knob.
19:25 Small balls time! Put some grease Into hole with spring.
20:12 Instal air progression knob.
20:55 Instal rebound knob. Do not forget add grease to spring hole.
22:01 Instal spring tentioner knob. Do not forget add grease to spring hole. - Věda a technologie
thanx for videos like this, You are INSPIRATION of start servising my Fox suspension in my home . I hope I will work in bike servis after High School...
Thank you, buddy! It's pleasure to me to know about my videos help people! If I get FOX 40 one day, I will made video about it for sure! Also feel free to share my videos in social networks and with your friends! See you soon in other videos! BTW for know I work on new video about KAWASAKI front fork, maybe you will be interested.
I watch this video every time before servicing my 888.
i'm glad to know that, MrDehicka! 👍
thank you for this tutorial
You're welcome!
Good day sir. I have a little bit of problem on my 888. When compressing the fork there is stiction on the first few centimeters of travel, when i get past that, the play becomes smooth. Upon releasing, the fork gets "stuck" up in that area again for a few seconds before achieving full travel. I can also feel the stiction when compressing the fork reallt slowly. It feels like there are "steps" in between my compression, and not a smooth slide. Also when i stand on the bike in attack position, the fork wont compress when push on it a little, it seems something is stopping it, but when i push the handlebars strongly, the fork then compresses and acts like normal.
Any idea what could be wrong?
I love the performance of this fork. It's very sad that in 2013 model(which i have) the gold race stanchions get discolored after some time. It doesn't change anything(the fork doesnt leak, and works exactly the same), but it looks bad.. guess it's a matter of getting used to it. Great video btw!
Thank you, TheHaitz4! I think discoloration is not that bad, when perfomance still good and fork has no leaking. BTW for this desing 888 forks I saw Nickel Coated stanchions, may be you can search for they.
Sadly, this discoloration is actually the anodizing going away. It will still work the same until it is completely gone to the bare aluminium. Left leg usually goes first. I suggest changing the oil in the left leg twice or even triple more often than in right leg, then they will wear more equally. Left leg oil change is very easy, I do it even without taking the wheel off.
You're right! This is simple operation and if you want increase lifespan of your fork, you need to service fork more often. Marzocchi gold coating, as I know, it is a oil impregnated teflon and it very delicate, which makes this fork very sensitivity.
"Hard anodized, low friction race coating with Teflon impregnation" They call it. I'm pretty sure it is nothing special, really. Teflon impregnation has been used for more than a decade by major fork makers.
Nice m8 best videos
Thank you, buddy!
Perfect video mate, so usefull
How often did you change the oil seals??
Greetings from Argentina!!
Hello, Alejo Coppo! Thanks! I never changed seals in this particular fork at this moment. It works fine. I think seals have to be change when oil leakage appears.
Very helpful. I might use this for my own fork as a basic guideline, but do you happen to know of a video for a '13 888 CR service? Thanks.
Thank you too! No I have no video about '13 888 CR.
Awesome tutorial
I have a question. How much space do you leave between casting and lower crown? The travel is 200mm so a bit more? also Do you let the dampener side fully extend or you set the full extention to both dampener and spring the same?
Thanks, zafosinferno888! Legs on both sides set to equal depth. Yes travel is 200mm, but you can change length between lower legs and lower crown(which holds steering tube) only in min/max range which print on both legs.
@@AXRV88 but it s better to not let the lower crown hit the seals of the casting correct? I have 210mm set on mine
Yes, you're right! The better way is to keep lower crown at least 5 mm higher than seals.
do you work for marzocchi or have ever worked for a syspension company because i see you are a very knowledgeable person regarding suspension
Thank you, mate! I have never worked for marzocchi or any other company, it's all my experience in this things. I'm engineer by education. BTW if you have any question about suspension feel free to ask me. Check my other videos about suspension, I think you like it!
I have watched most of your videos and i actually service suspensions and custom tune them also
We could collab but i am very far away....
Maybe one day we'll can do this. Where are you from?
I am from greece
Very good video, you helped me much!
I have one question.. how many turns does the tension knob turn when instaled and working? from 1-20 clicks?
I'm asking, because on my girlfriends bike I turned it almost 50 clicks in right and no end click XD lol..
Thank you, Aneo! I think when you turn preload knob too much in "+" you can "unscrew tension mechanism". You can remove top cap with this knob and turn it in your hand and see what happened. I think this procedure can help you with your situation.
thank you for the tutorial. Can you please do the 2013 888 CR? Thanks
Thank you, Angelo! I would be happy to make video about 888 CR but I have no any... For this reason I start my patreon page( link is on banner of channel). May be we can get some money to start new project by purchase used fork for making tutorials about.
Is it very different to this fork?
Hi,
I just received a marzocchi 55 rc3 evo v2 that I bought second-hand and the rebound knob turns infinitely and doesn't change anything (rebound very slow). Do you think there's a way to fix this problem?
Thank you very much.
Hello, Luis!
I think hex shaft is stripped on which seats rebound knob or broken rebound shaft inside cartridge. Try to remove rebound knob and check hex shaft under it. If it is in good condition, pull out cartridge out of fork and closely check it. The best way to repair your fork is to buy new cartridge. I hope I had help you a little.
what type of grease you use , its some like marine water proof grease ? greetings from poland .
Hello, gigaherc77! This is high pressure waterproof bearing grease. Be sure it's not aggressive to rubber parts before buying!
Do you have a video close enough to a bomber 55 ata? I'm having trouble completing my rebuild :(
Sorry but I haven't. No one brings your model of fork to service.
Hello AXRV88.
Do you use the high-temperature grease "MC 1510. Blue" for the seals?
Hi, XIL3NCE 081
I use something similar MC 1510. Blue. General parameter for grease is rubber friendly components.
@@AXRV88 OK. could you tell me the exact name of the fat you use? My dj 2 from 2006 should get a service soon and don't want to break the seal with the wrong grease.
Hey, XIL3NCE 081! You're right about mc1510 blue. On grease tube which I use is written VMPAuto MC 1510 Blue. Seals inside my forks works years with proper annual service.
Видос просто отличный!а картридж в штанах должен войти в зацеп?почему-то гайка прокручивается без усилий...
Благодарю! Зацепа к сожалению не предусмотрено, картридж необходимо придавить к штанам, чтобы он не прокручивался, тогда гайку снизу получится затянуть. Такая история со всеми вилками. Чем плотнее резьба, тем больше вероятность проворачивания картриджа.
P.S. Буду рад репостам данного видео, чтобы полезная информация распространялась среди велосипедистов.
@@AXRV88 спасибо, очень выручили!обязательно в вк репостну
@@viktorbaranov3978 Гайка, кстати, обманчиво большая, а сильно тянуть её нельзя, иначе треснет и потечет. По мануалу всего 6 Nm.
Hey how you doing I have this fork on my airborne pathogen. I broke the right side knob on the bottom. You know where I can get a new inside shaft to fix the adjustment knob ? Thank you I’m advance
@JKC Lawn Care And Landscape, Hello! Try to search for parts on ebay or try to ask support about parts on marzocchi.com. I hope this info will help you. Good luck!
Would the same techniques work for any triple clamp mountain bike Marzocchi fork?
specifically some Drop-Offs
This fork is much different then drop-off fork. I think 888 rcv anf 888vf2 is pretty the same shorturl.at/lrFKV , btw Dirt Jumper 1 is not much different from Drop-Off shorturl.at/eHKOZ and shorturl.at/PQRWZ
is there any diffrences between the upper legs? i mean yours have the spring in left one and mine has the spring in right lol
If you bought a new fork with this spring situation, it's strange. But if you bought your fork used, it's normal i think. Because machanic was so watchful, that he just swaped parts from one side to another. These forks are symetric, as i know.
Ciao Ascolta sulla forcella Marzocchi 888 potrebbe montare un copertone 26 X 300
ciao si puoi installare 26x300
Hey buddy, can you explain something to me? I have a marzocchi 2014 CR. Brand new. The marzocchi workshop site tells me that there should be 400ml on damper side, and 80ml on spring side. BUT, when I disassembled it, it came out 400ml on the spring side, and 80ml on the damper side. What is happening? Should I mount it the way it came, or the way marzocchi tells it should be? The fork is new, never used by another person
Hello, mate! I think manual will not lie. I had never service this type of cartridges. But logic tells me, that lots of oil must be in cartridge side. For spring you can use even grease.
@@AXRV88 Thanks a lot mate. I talked to a downhill suspensions mechanic, he told me that marzocchi 888CR actually uses 400ml on spring side, 80ML inside the damper and 80ML outside the damper. I find it weird to have 400 ml of oil inside the spring, but it actually has a reason, its not just for lubrication, but it has to do with air progression. If you put less oil, there's more air inside the leg, the suspension will get softer. Air can be compressed, oil can't.
Oh, I see. If air progression system is located inside of spring leg, than mechanic was right! But in my version, air progression system is located inside of cartridge leg. For increasing progression you can make oil / air chamber physically smaller by turning a knob. I think this is way better than have excess 400g of weight just for shrink space inside the leg.
bro. my 888 rc3 evo rebound knob turns with the spring tensioner. if i try to hold the spring tensioner with my other hand and try to rotate the rebound knob, it wont budge at all. is this still repairable?
Hi, Mister ChemPharm. I think it is repairable. May be you rotate these knobs not too often and they are stuck together. You just need to disassemble it or try to remove knobs and spray just a little bit of wd40 or something similar. May be this will help.
Good video
When i serviced my fork wich is the same model i wasn't able to tighten bottom damper screw, it was turning free
What is the problem??Please help me.
Thanks! You need to pull cartridge to the inner wall. It'll stop cartridge spinning.
@@AXRV88 Thanks a lot, apreciate
You're welcome, mate!
Hi, is there some big difference between rc3 evo and rc3 evo v2?
Hi.I don't know. I didn't worked with rc3 evo.
Is it the same process for servicing a 888 rc2x?
partially same process
hi i have a downhill commencal racing supreme v2 bike with these forks on. im thinking about selling the bike but does anybody know what these forks and bike would sell for realistically today please?
Hello, Gary. Sorry but I don't know how much bikes costs today. Maybe somebody in commentaries can tell how much it costs.
hallo friends did anybody can say me where i can buy a service kit or few parts to repair my suspension? its the same like the one in the video.
Hello, Chris! You can search for parts on ebay or google for "marzocchi parts". I hope this information will help.
Hey I just got a retired race dh bike and it has a marzocchi 888 RC3 EVO and the whole thing is completely fine until I turn on the air volume adjustment and then on any impact it makes a loud click/crack noise, if there's anything you can think of that would help that'll be great because I'm all out of ideas, thanks
Hello, Luke! Does this air volume tuning change something? I mean does the fork becomes more hard or soft when you turn the knob? Maybe O-ring is broken on air piston? Or Maybe cartridge shaft is bended and make this sound when you press the fork. Clicking noise can apear from compression cartridge which is on bottom of cartridge assembly. Maybe race mechanic make individual shimstack for compression for their rider. Too many things can be. But if your fork works smooth when you compress it slowly, i think nothing is broken. Just check all nuts and bolts.
@@AXRV88 nothing changes when it's turned, all seals are new and oil is new, I've serviced a lot of forks before and other 888 forks but when I turn it there's no noticable change apart from it makes the crack noise when it initially starts compressing
Maybe it's spring? Try to preload it.
@@AXRV88 I thought that too so I took the coil out and compressed just the damper and it's still there
Luke, try to unscrew bottom nut or the cartridge and compress just upper and lower legs. If cracks and noises will disapear, that is brocken cartridge. I think it can be bended shaft or a step on the shatf than making noises when you start to compress. I hope this thoughts will help you to find a problem. When you will find it, please let me know. I'm really interested to know what this is.
Hi do you know how to delete golden thing on top of rc3 cartridge, i mean when you delete upp adjustement knob on top of rc3 side you have under this knob golden thing i dont knwo how to delete this bc i want to add air and i bought adapter for this and with that golden thing adapter cant fit and i think i must take this off but i dont exacly know how and i dont want to broke anything
Hi! I think these forks don't have air preload. You have just regulation of air captured inside of fork. This air can be compressed (like preload) by this second knob. Before screwing top cap with these two knobs, set this air preload knob to maximum minus. Then screw top cap and after this set this knob to plus. You'll get a good progression on compression stroke. I hope it'll help you.
@@AXRV88 Okay, thanks for the information, I asked because it is a bit too soft for me and I thought that I could beat the air to make it harder and here is only regulation, it follows that I bought this adapter senselessly
PS: Sorry for my english, i'm from poland and used google translator for the most part
@@AXRV88 Fun fact i that i have 888 rc3 wc and i use your tutorial and when i take off down knob on rc3 cartridge (in my 888 this knob is for rebound) i push it down like u and i broke the knob (beacuse i didnt see that i have in this knob 2 screws to take that off) :D and i must change the rebound with diffrent keys, but sucessfully regulation still works
Ksairo, don't worry about your english :) I understand you well. Be more cautios when disassemble something. Make a research where are bolts and which key they need, because you can grab wrong key and ruin a bolt or nut. And my advise is don't speed up the process. You get a better result if so. ;) Goodluck with your bike! And hello to Poland🖐 I was in Poland couple years ago.
hola alguien que sepa español me podria decir que tipo de aceite le tengo que echar a una horquilla marzzochi de 200mm para su mantenimiento gracias.
Hola, necesitas agregar aceite 7.5w a tu tenedor. Buena suerte!
@@AXRV88 gracias amigo, necesito otras accesorias, crees que podamos comunicarnos por correo?
Gabriel puedes hacer todas tus preguntas aquí.
Can i just unscrew 2 bottom screw's to take off lower legs?
Yes
@@AXRV88 what can be the reason for pruning my fork?
May be dirt oil. I don't know your situation.
Hello AXRV88 , I need help , when I want to regulate compression in my marzocchi rc3 evo v2 nothing happens , the knob spins without any limit, what will be what happens? .Hello AXRV88 , I need help , when I want to regulate compression in my marzocchi rc3 evo v2 nothing happens , the knob spins without any limit, what will be what happens?
Hello Matias. It's hard to say whay happen. Try to gently pry gold knob and look at shaft. May be it's damaged.
Hey , I can to use rock shox oil or to use rsp oil or not?
Bryan, i think you can use all forks oils if they are synthetic fork oils and 5-10w. I don't know what is rsp oil.
@@AXRV88 thank you very much ; )
You're welcome, Bryan!
Do these forks have a valve to put the air in them fella?
This one has no air valve but it has variable volume air chamber for tuning forks progression
@@AXRV88 top bloke, thanks chap..
Trevor, you're welcome!
Has it one spring or two
This model has one spring.
Anyone have a link to a rebuild kit for these
Try to search on ebay
Could you put links to the products that you used in the description? Grade & oil etc
Sorry, mate, I haven't links to products because all grease and oil were bought in local stores. BTW oil viscosity is 7.5w
@@AXRV88 just a list of names would also help, brand, model, weight etc
Which specific products you interested in?
@@AXRV88 the oil and the greatest that you put in the dust seal
I see. Oil is motorex full synthetic fork oil 7.5w. For me this oil works great. And grease is VMP heavy duty/high temperature bearing grease which neutral to rubber.
Can i use grease with teflon for seals?
Teflon grease*
I don't know. If this grease is not aggressive to rubber, i think you can. You need to try it to understand.
Im worryed about sticky stanchions. May it cost less sensitive work?
Yes of course. They must be smooth and slippery and dry. If they are in the oil it will attract dust.
What kind of O-ring do you need?
Just google a rebuild kit for your fork. I don't know sizes of O-rings, because all of them are fine.
@@AXRV88 Thanks!
@Benedek Mák, You're welcome!
@@AXRV88 Thanks bro!
У меня в ноге компрессии не под головку, а подшестигранник ключ. И он не выкручивается. Хз как открутить и не сломать не понимаю, с большим усиелием аж хрустит. Часть демпера только смог вытащить. Не сталкивался с таким? У тебя на видео вообще без проблем откручивается всё
Может быть болт на герметик закручен. Трудно сказать, что может быть не так, не видя того, что там происходит. Если вилка у тебя б/у, то вообще не известно, что делали с ней.
@@AXRV88 короче тупо как прикипел. Вот из-за того что она бу, я и боялся на чудить, но всё прошло успешно))) демпфер правда чуть видоизменён. Сейчас всё собрал- шепчет вилочка🤤
@AlSanjisan поздравляю! У тебя CR картридж наверное.
@@AXRV88 он хуже, чем тот что у тебя на видео? Я разницы чет не особо понял))
@AlSanjisan хз какой принципиально лучше. Как в видео, это эволюция вело картриджа, в CR начались их изыскания "а давайте сделаем как в кроссовой вилке". Это мои личные доводы.
Next time cover that drain hole in that sink before something fall down there.
Mark, you're right at some point! But if this will happen, i can find in a bucket under the sink 😉
You did cut out the most important part for me: the installing of RC3 cartridge head before screwing the Cap!
Not nice
You also did not Cycle the RC3 damper several times to ensure the cartridge fills completely and you did not tighten both upper Caps with 10NM
You can do it any way you want. It is not an instruction.