World’s Fastest Tesla vs GT3RS
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We raced the fastest Tesla to ever win Pikes Peak against a new GT3RS to see if it can keep up.
Special thanks to everyone who made this video possible:
Dai Yoshihara -- @DaiYoshihara
Evasive Motorsport -- @EvasiveMotorsports
Rohana Wheels -- @RohanaWheelsOfficial
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I wish they would've let Dai do a hot lap around the track in the Model 3 and then let Jeremiah try and beat it in the GT3RS
What true gearhead would want a modded model 3 over a GT3RS? No comparison.
@@993mike Nah, EVs are cool AF. You don't need to be _riding a glorified _*_vibrator_* that _makes loud noises_ just to feel "cool", you know. \s
Especially the racing EVs I mean _(the Model 3 in the video isn't it btw; I mean actual racing & kit cars)._ With those you can more easily feel the car & the road in terms of tactility & the actual sounds that the tires make on the road, as you don't have a loud AF engine that muffles all the other sounds around & under you.
yeah the person who drove both cars was shitting on the tesla the entire time
My thoughts exactly... Let the guy know the car drives it. Like putting me in a Formula 1 car and the time looks like crap and saying that the car is no good...🙄🤦
the reason why jerry drove both cars even when he’s shitting on Tesla is he’s a qualified race driver with a racing license. Dai is actually comfortable with jerry driving his car. And the differences between both cars after a hot lap is drumroll 57ms. And when they do time attacks they try to do it multiple times more than 1 lap with warmup take the best lap time. Even the gt3 could get less time when did on multiple laps
Dai seems cool as hell.
Bro is basically working retirement right now
I followed his Formula D effort, years ago. He's pretty cool guy. Also his english got much better.
Dia's farther is an all time legend.
No, totally not, dai drives electric cars
he's gonna be a cool old wise man when he gets old :)
It's really impressive that Dai dialed in a car that was essentially uncharted territory in the time attack or performance modification scenes
I had a Model 3 for a few years. It was fantastic to drive, and I really loved the experience. I only sold it when the second-hand market went crazy a year or so ago because I was able to get almost all of my money back for a 3.5 year old car. Having owned and lived with one for a long time, I don't understand all the negative comments people are always very eager to share with me about EVs.
Those people are almost always people who have never owned one, and most haven't even driven one. They sure speak with authority, though. It's eye-opening to see how wrong people are, but they sure believe they are right.
I own a model Y long range. I can’t even with all the truck drivers wanting to race me all the time. It’s kind of cute, ‘cause 90 percent of them would lose. I obviously don’t engage, and I live in Maine with a lot of hicks 😂😂😂
While I was waiting for my Plaid to be delivered, I rented a '20 992 Cabriolet for a few days, and then a Model 3 long range for a week. Everyone will call me a liar, but the Model 3 was more fun to drive than the Porsche. Driving them back to back was eye-opening. I know the Porsche is faster every way you measure it, but the model 3 felt faster. The PDK is awesome, but the EV's constant power is better. The Model 3 was like driving a big go-kart, it was really easy to feel what the car is doing and really easy to control it. The single pedal driving makes it really easy to balance the car in corners. My prediction is that the Boxter EV will be the best sports car ever.
Many people love jumping on the bandwagon of hating Tesla even though it's a decent car.
@@75yomu Decent car? LOL. For 30K less than a BMW M3, the Tesla M3 smokes the bimmer, with instant acceleration, way better features, way safer, updates over the year, drives itself, miles ahead better software, charges at home, doesn't pollute, is silent, etc, etc. Decent? Teslas are the best cars on the road, bar none.
Guys I wanna see a full dang lap. Let us watch in car footage of the two cars going around uninterrupted
Absolutely. This video could have easily been 25 minutes and provided much more detail without being boring
I agree. The editing is great everywhere else but the laps are too interrupted. Gears and Gasoline has this down perfectly
I’ve got full laps in my Tesla on my channel.
So many channels are doing annoying editing now and they say it's for "retention". Imo they should keep short form style content on yt shorts and not try to mix them and make the long form content suffer the same terrible fate.
Yeah this is something ive been complaining about for many years now. Many videos could be much longer and have much more detail.
the DRS on the porsche is insane!
Edit: guys chill i just meant it looks cool cause we can press a button and it activates cause we dont get to drive f1 cars so this is the only we can access manual drs, active aero etc.
my inner F1 child gets goosebumps everytime i see it
nothing compared to the new $300,000 Mustang GTD.
@@kevinkarbonik2928notice how u say new. The 992 is 5 years old. The 992.2 comes out next year using a hybrid engine that only takes gas. But itll utilize the instant torque an EV brings. The new porsches will set even better records.
@@kevinkarbonik2928 LMFAO comparing a Mustang to a 911...
I suggest you look into it, 825 HP, a rear transaxle gearbox, full carbon fiber body, inboard active suspension, active DRS and under body air control, it's no joke. but it is $300,000 @@CrossWindsPat
Literally the most fun car channel on CZcams. Thank you all!
Would love to see a follow-up video discussing various handling experiences between the two cars.
Why?
One is 100 years plus of development the other is garbage
@@Becausefamilycardumbass
@@Becausefamilycarhow is it garbage if it had basically the same lap time 😭
With all due respect, I feel like driving was a limiting factor in this comparison - one practice lap can't be enough to start pushing.
Not unless you’re Randy Pobst
especially with a car like the gt3rs ...id imagine that you can push this thing to levels that you don't feel comfortable with at first ^^ but they entertaining regardless
Yea the gt3 is going to be trickier to drive than the Tesla , cuz like he said in the video you have to do less in the Tesla
@@garythecyclingnerd6219Mr. Pobst is the Bob Ross of driving.
They said he was doing “some warmup laps” in the gt3rs, so that’s more than one
an interesting perspective I’ve realized this year driving multiple cars on the same track back to back is that the driver may actually be the limiting factor in regards to lap times in the sense that a person has a certain confidence level or sense of speed they wont go past, and that leads to very similar lap times between cars whereas the cars might be able to go around the track faster than the driver thinks it can. It’s extremely hard to extract 100% potential out of a car without having a substantial amount of time behind the wheel.
I don't think anyone is doubting that the driver was the limiting factor for the lap times in this video. That being said, I would bet that Jeremiah got faster laps than most of us could (he does have some good experience - Skip Barber). Rather than looking at athe driver as a limiting factor, look at the driver as a controlled factor when it comes to testing. For example, if you put Verstappen in either of those cars, and Jeremiah in the other, Verstappen will have the faster lap. The results of the test infers that if you put most experienced drivers in both cars, the GT3 RS will have a slightly faster lap time....but I want to see more testing between these two cars!
this exactly
If we put him in a VW Passat, do you think the times would be in the same ballpark?
These lap times being this close is indicative that you don't have to go GT3RS (unless you got the money and desire to) for an incredible car
@@jerkfrags7253 On the other hand is the "fastest" car even fastest if there is only 1 person in the world that can drive it that fast? Ease of driving and confidence that car gives is really important because ultimately everyone wants to drive fast without putting thousands of hours of practice time.
@@JollyGiant19 I think the arguement is that both of these cars could probably go faster. Because its 1 driver, driving 2 different cars he is not used to, we're not gonna be able to see the actual difference. I can totally see those times being the most hes willing to push a car he doesn't own and is not fully comfortable driving.
I would really like a deep dive into the trackmode from you guys. Always like to see real car people testing EVs.
@@Becausefamilycar yeah Sure Buddy what ever
@@xsimplyp7444which bit.
If it’s the battery tech, then you really should look up solid state batteries, they will change EVs for better on massive ways.
There are Tesla racing accounts around, if you want to look for them. One of them, Unplugged, does top end Tesla modifications and have top racers drive them in events such as time attacks and pikes peak (among many other things they do) Check them out
Both cars are great!! That was awesome! Excellent Video!
Dai should've gotten a go in his Tesla, he probably knows this car inside out.
It would be an unfair competition then you would have to have someone whi knows how to drive the Porshe just as well as dai knows how to drive the tesla
@@thenaughtylemonethat’s the thing. The guy knew Porsche already but knew nothing about a Tesla.
Dai shouldve driven BOTH
I would've enjoyed Dai driving the Tesla, then doing a second lap in Tesla to see if it loses much time after losing battery life.
@@XeonSX How exactly did he know the Porsche?
The DRS on the porsche is UNREAL!!!
That's some f1 technology right there
@@chrism869lol
The tesla is sick
You are easy to impress, that is something very old, already used the 3000gt front and rear
Even Audi A7 has that
Got my hrprs shirt today! Sick! Hella comfortable thick and soft! Wasn't expecting it this way tbh but definitely will start buying more
Donut videos seem long but when u start, they end so quickly. Time really is relative.
Dont get me wrong, the Tesla is hands down incredible and the build they did for it is nothing short of spectacular. But it had to be said that the biggest factor for the laptime being so close is, what looks to be, the racing slicks that it is driving on. No matter how much aero, power of suspension tuning you do. The tires will always be the most important in the end. The porsche was on Cup 2 tires, which are incredible tires but nowhere near to slicks. Imagine if the porsche had those slicks!
Both cars were severely underdriven, My model 3 with just 200tw tires can do 1:19's around streets of willow.
I don't know that I agree. With the times being so close, the biggest factor was the driver. Nothing against Jer, but it's more likely he unintentionally cautioned himself several times.
I'm sure if we had the track footage we could see it. Again, with times that close and cars that different, I'm looking squarely at the driver over everything else.
@@adamsfusion Let's be real. He's not that great of a driver. When he came to Australia he was way off the competition. Plenty of pro drivers rock up at tracks they've never done and are within a second of the pole within a few laps.
Well one thing I noticed is he appeared to be able to find his line quicker in the GT3 and proceeded to fine tune, where as the MP3 he was constantly readjusting his line (lots of wiggling of the steering wheel). That says MP3 should have been faster granted cause it was on slicks: not only better tire but the only thing keeping MP3's weight vs grip in check.
@@stevencase243sounds about right. People are scared to push the limits.
a few videos ago the type R did a 1:24 around the track, surprised to see the GT3RS didnt just absolutely blow it out of the water!
3 seconds on a track this small Is a huge difference
he probably had more laps to practice with the type R, but yeah, suprised by it too
it's a tiny track. pretty much every performance car they drive on it is within 10 seconds of eachother, most are within 5 seconds. 3 seconds is a pretty big difference.
In spite of having a motor that sounds boring AF, the new CTR really seems to have the necessary value proposition. Still not OK with owning a DGI motor myself, but thats another convo.
Track this small three seconds is easily five or six car lengths
I really love how these guys are truly the new top gear
Subscribed after I saw you in the crew motorfest and I gotta say you’re pretty awesome
00:22 "my favorite car of all time"
Episode from a few days ago titled: "Why car companies lose money on purpose?"
Timestamp: 5:45 "my personal favorite car of all time"
Bro has a new favorite car of all time each episode.
And the car is new! How can it be ''of all time''?
Bros had a whole ass pro raceway driver at their disposal. And we're like "nahhhh" 😂
As a car enthusiast I think it’s cool incorporating electric cars on the channel. They are undeniably impressive . I can appreciate something new while still loving the classics
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As a carriage enthusiast I think it's cool incorporating ICE cars on the streets. They are undeniably impressive. I can appreciate something new while still loving the horse-drawn classics
Man what a fun video! So interesting to see their honest reactions to the Tesla. That low center of gravity is awesome with the weight reductions they applied too
You should have let Dai drive that and get a real time.
@@TimiAkintoyehave Dai drive both cars
Ya, at the very least they should have posted Dai's typical lap time in his model 3 there. Better just to have him do the laps.
@@js2000honda i agree with you, just seemed to be a missed opportunity since Dai was there.
Technically, he could give 1 best lap in his tesla since he already so used to it, THEN go for a few hot laps in the porsche since he would have to get used to the porsche.
@@RoleAce or have Porsche's own racing driver drive the GT3.
You can't use different drivers on a head to head test. That messes with one of the most crucial variables that needs to be controlled for for any of this to make sense
Now I wanna see a stock GT3RS at pikes peak
It would poop it's pants and die. Pikes is brutal.
@@Mostlyharmless1985Lol. True though. You also get less oxygen up there. Which sucks for petrol cars. EVs couldn't care less.
@@Mostlyharmless1985 Although in 2023 Pike's Peak race, a 2019 Porsche GT2 RS Clubsport won 1st in its class (Time Attack 1), and 4th overall (behind the Open and Unlimited classes).
A 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid (Randy Pobst) finished 2nd in Exhibition, 10th overall, but almost 35 seconds behind the Porsche GT2RS.
It wouldn’t do all that great. Pikes Peak is a whole different animal and the engines have to be tuned for high altitude.
@@Mostlyharmless1985 Lol it would rock against a stock model 3
With the access to the track that y'all have, I feel like you guys could do a "Best Motoring" style show on your channel
Brilliant. Finally a Tesla test that involves corners. Thanks for the comparison lads
There's a bunch of videos from the last couple of years with the Model S Plaid "Dark Helmet" build that is the exact same.
This video is pretty cool. Nice to see more people embracing new technology and applying fundamentals to make awesome builds.
After seeing you guys kill it in TCA racing series, it’s so amazing to see Dai on the channel!
Thanks Dai for making this video possible
im really impress that jer finally finish some laps jasjsajj
Sitting down to watch Donut eating a sandwich 🥪 from Turkey leftovers, going to spend Boxing day watching CZcams and lounging around 😂
exact same 😂
Watch your cornhole.
Boxing day???
@@lucasoosterveld607 the day after Christmas is called Boxing Day
@@lucasoosterveld607 "Boxing Day is a holiday celebrated after Christmas Day, occurring on the second day of Christmastide (26 December).[1] Though it originated as a holiday to give gifts to people in need, today Boxing Day forms part of Christmas celebrations, with many people choosing to take advantage of Boxing Day sales."
It's celebrated by the UK and some other countries I believe. Not including the US. Canada I believe is the only North American country that celebrates it.
Jeremiah has a new favorite car of all time every phucking video.
I like the yellow progress bar on the bottom of the video that shows how much longer one has to sit through an ad.
I'm just glad I was born in the era of the ICE and manual shift.
I feel the build cost of the Tesla was completely glossed over
It's around 12-20k.
And the tesla Plaid track pack with the same adjustments absolutely DESTROYS the porche (which is my dream car)
Wish they had tested it too.
Also the lack of range.
I think because the build isn’t that expensive especially compared to gas cars. They have aero, custom front bumper and hood. Custom carbon fiber doors, weight reduced which costs nothing, and bucket seats with harnesses which you would have in any race car. You don’t have to put any money into the motor so it’s pretty cheap as track built cars go.
@darkcircle899 you forgot the full roll cage, big brake kit, wheels, tires and other stuff
@@EvoraGT430 lol nobody that actually tracks their cars cares about range or efficiency. That's why there's always gas pumps or charging stations directly at legit track sites. That's why Donut didn't talk about it.
Man, you guys are living the dream, this looks like an awesome day no matter the results.
Im about to watch the video and beforehand i can tell, the tyre components will make a hug difference
That looks like a lot of fun . The Tesla makes it easy to drive but not the experience and feeling that the GT3 RS gives .
GT3 RS seems like a rip off when you think about the price.
@@borinvlogs The price of the GT3 RS is out of my range💀💀 .
@@borinvlogs Yes, but you can say that about any other super car. A Tesla can out drag a Bugatti. Is the Bugatti still worth a million+ is that no also a bigger "rip off".
I like when he says “and that’s car you can buy and drive off the lot” in what a world😂😂
🚦Come on guys if it’s either or I’m taking the GT3RS all day any day and every way and twice on Sunday 😂😂
Hell Yeah Brother 😎
A mobile SIM rig ….Tesla 😂
Facts I’m a slut for DRS 😵
Not worth it for the price,it's like 400k that's ridiculous
DRS is enough to make that decision for me …Porsche RS models are what track focus automobiles are all about the pinnacle
An up to speed for us all on James's dad please?
The wheels on that porsche are insane🔥🔥
I think we need a monolist of race times at The Streets
for sure
"Jerry was a race car driver
He drove so goddamned fast
Never did win no checkered flags
But he never did come in last
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say "El Sob number one"
With a Bocephus sticker on his 442
He'd light 'em up just for fun"
Gotta love Primus.
Primus sucks! 🤘
I felt that when he said aye hes back
I forgot Jeremiah is the only trained professional when it comes to track
Love that you guys finally did something with Evasive. Those guys are the best and have built some amazing cars!
Yeah I concur! As soon as i saw the thumb nail i was jazzed to watch this. Not a fan of electric. But i wanted to see this car in action.
I'm much more excited by their 86 and S2000
Insightful comparison between the Tesla Model 3 and Porsche GT3 RS, well done! It's clear that even though EVs have some limitations, they can still put up a respectable performance on the track.
In my 70 years I’ve owned 4 Porsches, I now own 2 Teslas - hands down Tesla !
for one lap....its a hotlapper car but not a tracktool for a day at the track like the Porsche
@@shepherdsknoll for lifestyle, surr but raw speed and performance, its the Porsche, not even mentioning it was the guy's first laps in a porsche which can take years to truly control😊
@@YSF_B28 , sorry gamer, Any ice is just old technology.
@@shepherdsknoll yeah it's old tech, but it's objectively more badass💪💪
Justin meshes SO WELL with everyone he works with. Such a great guy. Quickly became one of my favorite hosts.
Keep up the great work guys!
When you have to accommodate the race for one car, then it is not a race.
I’ve owned some awesome ICE cars, and now own a Tesla, and loved both, so I get to sit here and happily watch both sides pushing each other to get better and better, and that’s insanely exciting to me. Competition always brings out the absolute best in an industry
Very well said! I can't wait to see where this new age of ev speed takes us in the next 5 years or so.
I fell semi solid state and then true solid state cells will open up ALL kinds of new doors for real perf evs. 👍🏻😎
Are you scared of some good old 426 Hemi V8?
@@Disciple_of_God. nope. Love them as well, although for the average person, a 440 was faster because you had to be an exceptional driver to get the most out of a 426
Folks don't realize lots of us tesla guys used to be gas guys too
I'm looking forward to when car people can just be car people again without these platform wars. The motorbike world doesn't have this issue, a biker is a biker. A EV owner can absolutely be a car guy, the gatekeeping is so silly
Watching on my break at work, great timing
Can't wait to see the perfomance version of the model 3 highland
Yes, Dai is a trooper!!! 😊
I love that Jerry Berry is now the test driver now that he is legitimately a race car driver.
I mean the Tesla has slick tires. That's should make a huge difference.
Makes the biggest difference!
I noticed the same thing, not exactly a fair race
theres litterally video of a stock m3 performance doing 1:21.2 on youtube.. /watch?v=29i-Gs4v9W8
Not with only one out lap, especially in weather as cold as it looks. Especially not with the underdriving in the video. Tbh I'm not sure I'd even take 200tw Bridgestone re-71rs's out in this cold weather, I might bias to my PS4S set to ensure heat gets in them. That's more important than just throwing a slick on a car because it's a "race tire".
True. But a Model 3 performance is 40k with incentives. Gotta give it something right? A modified model S plaid would of blown the gt3rs to the moon. It has the fastest big willow track time ever and I don't see a gt3rs breaking any records on big willow.
You should put it out on social media when you will be at willow. I would love to come and watch. I live in Lancaster and I used to go there all the time but not so much anymore.
New name for this series Time Battle!!
The fact that Gt3 can achieve more with 6 cylinders than some V8 cars can, is incredible.
Is it? The # of cylinders is so overrepresented in most peoples idea performance. It really is alot less important than so many other factors
Some v8s? Almost every v8 can not keep up with a gt3rs on a track
Cylinders don't really matter on track
Same argument that a highly modified 4 pot can overpower a v8... 👀
The fact koenigsegg has a 600hp 3 cylinder should tell you that the amount of cylinders means nothing.
Imagine listening to rocks crumble and tire sound 😂😂
I’ll choose the Porsche for pure music to ears
That’s why you aren’t a race car driver. We don’t drive race cars because they sound good.
@@Michael-pi8ps no need to gatekeep racing my friend! I am sure there’s many who race just for the enjoyment.
Wow, that was pretty awesome to see
dude that shot with the tesla in the tunnel
so clean
I love how happy Jeremiah seems being able to drive these two cars! Literal coming true!
Comparing Tesla 0-60 times to real performance cars is like comparing a microwave to a bbq grill. It may cook faster, but nobody ever wished for a microwaved burger
Eloquently said
But tesla's were never supposed to be used as high performance vehicles? they are commute cars? You can say the same thing as a hellcat, or any muscle car, it is quick, but once you turn, its over.
@@NethercraftMC That's why you own a non American fast car that handles.
@@neth77 exactly but teslas aren’t the only comparison
As a car guy, I can’t believe Jeremiah closed the door on the Porsche by the window! Great video though, guys!
Interesting that with relatively modest modifications a Model 3 can be a quick track day car.
There aren't many $50k road cars you can say that about.
I wonder if we'll start to see software mods for track day Tesla's, to take exploit some of the possibilities that electric motors should allow, such as torque vectoring.
Thank you for the merch donut :) for Christmas I got your white donut logo hat and your donut racing hat :) best Christmas gift ever :)
My dad owns a Tesla and I can say it's fun if you can let yourself have the fun. I know some people who will just not let themselves just enjoy the technology that it has. At the same time I think combustion motors should be able to continue in some way. Great video
I don't find anything wrong with EVs but I recognize they are not for everyone so I don't think they should be forced on everyone by the government. People should have a choice. I looked into buying one last year but they are not in my price range. I absolutely don't find EVs appealing for racing because of the limited customization that's available. Combustion engines come in all different sizes with nearly an infinite number of aspects that can be changed to alter performance for different types of racing. Camshaft profiles, changes to spark timing, turbochargers, exhaust header tube length, gear ratios, etc are aspects that let each car become unique. EV don't have most of that. Aerodynamics and suspension tuning looks to be about it. The heart of the whole thing is stock. While they are quicker and faster, than combustion engine vehicles, I'm a gear head and I don't feel a connection to the EVs for racing because they are off the shelf with no real customization and no sound. I've been to NHRA Drag races, NASCAR races, Formula 1 races, etc and I could not imagine there being no sound! It's like EVs have no soul.
Tesla’s are just trash. The owner of the company is a trash human, the car quality is trash. The only saving grace it has is being electric, good charge mileage & having a charging port that’s the most accessible right now. The design is subpar at best. Mods on it make it look even more less appealing.
It's always the middle that is better for everyone and that is Hybrids. Literally best of both world. As much as I love ice cars I also love Hybrid. Ya I know world is evolving and all I 'car enthusiasts' part of me loves every car including the tesla but my 'petrol head' part would refuse to even look at evs and I know quit a lot of people who thinks that so ya Hybrids would be better future if given enough work and time.
@@edj2022 It's still a long time before any bans come in and tbh I doubt you'll be able to even find retailers still bothering to design and release new fossil cars by 2030. Even now most are putting basically all their r&d into EVs.
although you get the best of both worlds, you also get the worst of both worlds. You have a battery, a motor and an engine all wearing down and having their own issues. As evidence of this, hybrids have more car fires than ICE and way way more than EV alone. I like the benefits you get from hybrid but I do think the best option will be some future EV with ~500 mile EPA range and 20%-80% charging in about 10-15 mins. Until that exists I think they all are a compromise. Just my 2 cents though, as someone who has been driving all electric for 6 yrs.@@deletedaccount573
Tesla 3 owner here. This is the first automatic and EV I’ve ever owned. The car prior to this was a Ford focus RS. even stock, the model 3 is so much fun when you needed to be
Guys, your channel is awesome and you make very interesting content. Could you please at least use the SI system for units so that the rest of the world besides the US (so basically 90% of the world) can understand those units?
Best part of the video . “We only get one shot of peak power with the Tesla” great point
1 track pony doesn't make it anywhere near a track car imo
I mean the car doesn't just explode after 1 lap, you wait for it to cool down 5 minutes and go again no? Seems they added that line for climactic effect.
@@retro1120 that's...not how track racing works my guy
@@MeggaMortous I understand traditional races involve consecutive laps, but when aiming for a 1 lap record, breaks are 100% allowed.
@@retro1120 yeah sure go ahead with that if it fits your bill
For those of you looking, the race starts at 7:30
thx
Can’t wait to see a racing plaid, same Porsche
Boys. Should have given Dai a lap at the end.
9:57 someone definitely got left hanging there but its alright they cut the video to save face lmao
I enjoy EV and ICE vehicles. The future is fine in the hands of enthusiasts who want to have fun, regardless of the propulsion system.
Agree. I’ve got both currently. lol
Same here. One EV and one ICE.@@TheAllAmericanDriver
I'm right there with you guys. If it goes fast I like it.
At one side, the political pressure for a full replacement of the fleet and the Tesla fanboys. At the other side, diehard petrolheads who discredit and make fun of electric power at every given opportunity. And I don't wanna side with either of the extremes, I just wanna watch things unfold and enjoy them all! With freedom of choice, we should be fine.
EV arent fun for anyone..
That Porsche GT3RS has an engine sound to Dai for.
Sometimes i forget how big Jerry is... what an unit
They should have had a professional driver like Randy Pobst drive to you really know where the true limits are.
I'm actually so excited to see that battery radiator mod on the Tesla Model 3. It was the first thing I thought of when it came to building performance mods for EVs beyond the obvious stuff like weight reduction, and I'm glad to know my thoughts were right! I'd love to see what happens when you do this to like.. a Plaid
the issue is you can't cool battery packs fast enough. There's always a lag between heat generation and the cooling system being able to compensate. You have to move that heat from the battery packs to the radiation system and back. Batteries, under full load, can produce way more heat than most systems can mitigate. EVs are good at quick bursts of performance but they still lack the ability to maintain that performance. It's getting better but they aren't there yet.
@@CRneu Liquid cooling has entered the room
@CRneu absolutely, even liquid cooling only goes so far. My thought initially was a nitrous or nitrous-adjacent system that, rather than blowing super dense air into the fuel system to increase combustion, was to just flush super compressed (and subsequently much colder) liquid nitrogen over the batteries in an attempt to flash-cool them. It'd require a lot of testing and I have no idea if that would be *nearly* enough cooling potential, but being able to port nos into EVs just for a different use case sounded so cool. Especially for show builds where EVs are already bagging their cars and putting the compressor tanks in the frunk. Just do that but with nos
See the dark helmet plaid driven by Randy pobst. 👍🏻😎
@@CrossWindsPat aren't tesla batteries already liquid cooled? There's liquid flowing through that radiator, no?
hey guys, since you race there a lot, mb you should do the time results list like top gear had for the track
You guys should really do a segment on Jackie Chan's Thunderbolt movie.. JDM galore
This why I like Porsche 911 GT3 RS in this video already
TEAM GT3 ALL DAY 🎉
Just because of a stupid noise ?
@@michalandrejmolnar3715yes
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 yes.
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 The only stupid thing here is you lol
GT3 looks uncomparably better, sound really good and It will have performance as good for tens of laps, tesla will get worse every lap .
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 so true how dare anyone talk bad about daddy elon's perfect car. a 30k ev that can only do 1 lap in peak performance is way better than that stupid quarter million dollar sports car that can do it all day.
I guess Jerry has the best job at Donut right now :D
8.3 mil subs...wow!!! As someone that been here pre 1mil congrats on the progression of content while keeping it og donut feels. thank you
I wasn't aware that the performance degrades so much even after 1 lap. I think that alone settles the question of if the model 3 can be a track car.
Edit: Leave it to Tesla fans to defend a track car that takes a performance dive after 1 lap
not only model 3 but all electric cars
True
The Performance degrades after 1 lap because it’s inherently a road car. They would have to change how the Teslas computer treats the battery to get the same performance consistently.
@@humanhuman5024 Sure if you want to replace the battery every few months.
They improved this with the Plaid greatly, and then Cybertruck even more. Unfortunately the cybertruck is in no way a track car 🤣
Should have let Dai do the driving on both cars!
Currently playin james playlist on the crew😏
I’m sick but donut uploading instantly made me feel better ❤
Worth mentioning that everyone who does race car stuff knows, you as a driver get faster with each lap. Part of that is fuel weight loss, part of that is level of comfort, but the Tesla its the opposite peak power is the very first lap. But I have to say, that's pretty sick and it makes me want a Tesla tbh. To have a car that keeps up with a gt3 rs around a track, that probably costs half after those mods, and way less before the mods. Very cool
Nothing beats the rev of an engine
if you offer a racer a modified Tesla as an alternative to a GT3 RS, it's like giving a pianist a Casio digital piano as an alternative to a Steinway grand piano. Yes, it also has 88 keys and sounds similar, but all the little subtleties come together to create an overall experience that can't be compared. And that's also the reason, why it's so much more expencive
Remember it lost even when it had the battery peak, which means after one more lap it would be significantly slower, so Gt3 RS anyday anytime
Your not supposed to talk about negative facts when it comes to Ev propaganda!😂
It’s a model 3. Unplugged performance heavy ass plaid runs away from this and still costs less than a stock gt3rs ignoring markup . Evs got a bit to go but these aren’t even sports cars doing this.
the model 3 could run rings around it, I'd still prefer the GT3 RS, its just so much more of an experience and just, well, everything
the only way I'd want a Model 3 was to be a drunk people transporter, aka, nothing to do with it honestly
Lost by .57 of a second, what difference does that make to you? Also, these cars are designed as road cars, not track cars. If tesla did make a track-focused car (like the Model S Plaid Track Pack), it would probably work better.
@@cookiehead. lol, thats because he probably scared to damage porshe and didn't kew how much he can push it. Type r did 1:24 which is nothing against gt3rs.
Hate on electrics all you want, it’s pretty cool that you can get Porsche level performance with one, including mods, for like a 1/4 the cost.
for one lap only and that's it
@@anubaralnot really. Maybe a half second loss on the 2nd lap. Not much.
@@anubaral not true. But even if it was, I’d still be happy in a car that can run just as fast as car that costs 4-5x as much.
But you will not get the same passionl
Who even cares?
I do not want to go fast or win!
@@Acarloveredits what passion are you talking about? The Tesla does everything a race car would do minus the engine. It’s got tons of modifications and hours put into it to make a hill climb car. How is that not passion?
Someone should make a compilation of all the cars you’ve said are your favorite car of all time lol
Would love to see a rematch with Dai doing the driving. Not to any discredit to Jeremiah, but Dai is the shit.
The best example of passion vs efficiency. Not even a fan of Porsche and I'd take it. Need that passion
What? So passion equals engine sounds?? It seems like the opposite. They said in video that driving the electric let them focus more on driving and things like maintaining the driving line. Where’s the missing “passion?”
@@sacredgear Passion can be engines, so engine sounds and just engines in general would be one. I'd take a gt3rs in a second, nothing like that flat six screaming down the track.
@@duckygang603 Nah, if we're talking about sound design, I'd take a V10 any day of the week. But if we're talking about engineering efficiency, nothing beats the straight-six and how high that baby can rev.
I think they meant passion as in Porsche development on the 911 to purely make it one of the best handling performance vehicles since it's roots@@sacredgear
@@duckygang603 that’s not passion, that’s aesthetic. Porches are amazing cars and that’s not just because the engine. It’s the sum of its parts. Subaru makes a flat 6 and It doesn’t get a fraction of the reverence a Porsche does.