SIMON JORDAN VS JIM WHITE! Simon Jordan and Jim White get into a fiery debate about agents fees 🔥
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I feel like Jim white talks as if he thinks he’s representing the common man, but doesn’t quite get there. Then just comes across as really ignorant and agenda driven. Very tabloid? Idk
Jim just isn’t on Simon’s intelligence level 🤦🏽♂️
To be fair Simon was a very successful entrepreneur and club owner. He knows the industry inside out. He’s dealt with these parasites first hand.
Robert Straw how was he a successful club owner. He had them in administration 🤣🤣🤣🥴
@@adamburton3012 He’s said that the financial crisis of 2008/09 is what decimated the club.
It's nothing to do with intelligence. Jim is a sensationalist journeller/presenter from sky sports and Simon is an ex football club owner. Both fit surprisingly well together and make good listening. Simple as.
@@captainkirk4519 Jim is a idiot just like most journalists these days and sky he's part of the reason why ppl are subscribing to the kick off and other platforms for real fans who talk really sense, even his voice gives me a migraine 🙄
Simon can be divisive sometimes but my lord that man knows footballing economics. Always a very interesting listen - i love how he refers to mino raiola cos honestly that guy is a slob and snake rolled into one
Called him smelly and ugly lol top stuff 🤣
Lmao owners of football clubs fucked players overs for years and now they have some leverage and want to earn what they are worth. Nothing snakey about that
@@Pratikstick earn what they are worth??? Many times they abuse that. Sanchez was never worth 400k per week. What a player is worth is determined by what he brings in, very few top players are worth what they get paid.
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Simon speaking facts ad usual
Jim has no real opinion. He says whats hes payed to say. Its not a debate between Simon and Jim, its a debate between Simon and the person in Jim's ear telling him what to say
The man bats for so many different sides it’s unreal!
Jim’s is a simple yes man
It appears to be the TalkSPORT blueprint where one argues for something & one against; playing devil's advocate at it's best/worst. Has worked for them for years.
Jim is a snake 🐍
Jim tends to just regurgitate inflammatory sentences without any real opinion or content behind them. As if to only constantly fan some flames of outrage
It’s like speaking to a brick wall with Jim White what an annoying conversation that was to listen to. Jordan stating facts and why the fees had to be paid and it just goes in one ear and out the other
'The whole thing is a an egregious abuse on finances', spot on Simon. He may be a polarising person but he gives you a different insight into football economics than anyone else.
Also, bang on about regulating agents!
Truly EVERYthing in football is regulated, except agents?!?! Madness!!
Can you imagine what this would have sounded like if Jordan wasn't there to correct white. Jim white has no idea how clubs are run.
If they would just ditch Jim White, I'd be back listening most days.
I tend to agree with you although he's weirdly growing on me lol.
Completely agree....there I was thinking it was just me!!
Jim plays the devils advocate
Jim asked the same question 13btimes in 12 minutes 😂😂
Its a double act that works well. Jim White is an experienced presenter and sets it up expertly.
Simon Jordan has this bang on really. Very good understanding of what’s going on. Regulate them!
I love TalkSport. I really enjoy listening to Simon Jordan who knows a lot about the game. Whilst I am sure Jim is a nice chap I find his approach to be very irritating and provocative. Personally I would love Simon to just have his own show. If it wasn’t for Simon between 10.00 and 13.00 I would turn it off and wait for the next show. Sorry, but that’s how it is for me.
Agreed 💯 I thought the not a fan of Jim White club was limited....judging by these comments we are a majority!!
@@mister_M. 👏🏽👏🏽 I can’t listen anymore he is just so annoying, and whether he’s playing a character/heel or not I can’t stand him!! Didn’t on sky sports and don’t now!! Watch the you tube clips to get my daily Simon dose
Thank god I have found ppl who hate jim shite as I like to call him lol he is utterly ridiculous in what he says, it's like Jordan is the parent and Jim the child, the dad trying to explain to a child about how his business is run, and Jim the child spitting his dummy out about it coz he dosent understand it simple
Ruins my enjoyment of the programme to be honest. He just winds me up.
Simon jordon the best thing on talk sport since Mike parry brilliant says it has it is
It’s clear these two don’t get on and normally this sort of partnership wouldn’t work on radio, but somehow it just does. Jordan is a great listen in the mornings
Thats the problem right there. Simon Jordan is great to listen to because he knows his stuff and talks sense. Jim Whitre is just an ignorant "man in the pub" twat and is NOT enjoyable to listen to in any shape way or form.
I don’t reckon it works, people tune in for Simon. Jim offers little, and is often quite disrespectful
Simon Jordan should be in charge of football
Leeds didn't claim furlough, the players ended up deferring their wages, so the non-playing ataff got paid and didn't get made redundant.
We did claim money from the government though. I believe that happened after the restart though to be fair.
Edit: in December alone we claimed between £100,000 and £250,000. This is according to ITV News.
Jim White, oh dear. Do you actually pretend have such a lack of intelligence.....or is this part of the show to tee up Simon's responses?? I really do hope so, for your sake. You can tell who the 'media' person is and the other that lives in the real world.
He just isn’t on the same intelligence level as Simon, I’ve stopped listening a while ago just because of his presenting style!!
Jim Whyte is embarrassing at times, bloody hell he can’t listen to common sense. Always just after a headline or click bait. Love listening to Simon Jordan
I never forget Jordan trying to have a sensible conversation about BLM in football and White wouldn’t budge on his clearly veneered view point
Always have been and will be a fan of simon just speaks truths on everything . And it's because he is wealthy enough already to not be scared of anyone trying to ahut him down . Well done sir
Used to think Simon Jordan was a bit of a narcissist but now i take it all back he’s actually one of the shining lights actually he ought to be running the FA
Simon is right here, these agents need to be put in their place and needs to happen soon
Simon was speaking facts. But with that said, if he truly wants to put agents in their place, he could buy back Palace and leave that agents line in the club statement at $0
I think if the agents fees came out of the player's end it would make more sense.
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And that's the problem. "We can keep talking about players wages but it becomes boring"
As soon as you have a go at the media Jim loses it lol Simon on another level and Jim hates it. Love when these 2 go at it. Great radio
That's the point. Many fans here are too ignorant for hating on Jim.
Leeds players did take a pay cut Simon. So Leeds staff wouldn’t get furlough .
But we did apply for grant money from the government. That is a fact that was kept a bit more quiet.
Edit: we claimed between £100,000 and £250,000 in December according to ITV News.
Tbh if you're good at football do you really need an agent? Talent should speak for itself
Clubs would f around players all day and underpay them. Agents are good for players, everyone else involved in football not so much. The same people that complain about agents' would hire one in a second
These 2 are excellent
Omg. I never knew agents make that much! It's like price of buying a player. Imagine how much the agent got from big deals. Insane
Football is a multibillion industry, why shouldn't the talent get compensated correctly.People like Simon Jordan and Mike Ashley want salary caps so they can line their pockets even more.
Competition is watered down half of these 'big clubs' skys big 6 havent even won more titles than Sheffield Wednesday. End of the day Champions League should be what it says on the tin only the champions qualify only top spot that's it
Jim is just saying the opposite of simon to spark a debate
Jim White is thick! You can't mess with Simon when it comes to business!
I know!!! Simons such a good business man that he put his club in debt and bankrupt himself and the club 🤪
Lets get it straight here. there will be no regulation of players wages or agent fees while football clubs are prepared to stab each other in the back and do deals behind each others backs.
Jordan is spot on on this in fairness to him.
These two are brilliant 💥
Fergie warned everyone about football agents but noone listened blame Chelsea
Y?
@@truespartan1000 they started all the transfer madness they started paying huge fees to agents to encourage players away from big clubs when they were little chelsea .......... not saying there the only ones anymore there all at it now but it was chelsea who started it
Forgie is not innocent. He bought all the top players while paying agents millions
You know the finance industry & nearly all industries have the same intermediaries. Its called business. Buying and selling.
@@mnb9162 yes but 5% is the norm in like for like industries.
It was an absolute disgrace that the premier league didn't bail out the EFL. Too busy wanting a super league to rake in even more disgusting amounts of money.
You clearly didn't listen or watch the video. It's not the PL's job to bail out the EFL. Period! But you are more than welcome to bail out the EFL with YOUR own millions or billions.
Why should they bail them out? Do you see big brand shops bailing out local stores?
This was a master class 👏
Simon Jordan The Talking Dictionary.
if theres one thing Simon knows its accounting.
where’s the fiery debate?
Haha I swear they ask Jim White to act moronic to make Simon look smarter
😅😅 Was just thinking the exact same thing mate.
Why is he even allowed to sit at the same table as Simon.
How about the agents involved in government contracts? Intermediaries are involved through the economic world. We buy & sell. Its called business. The players/owners see value in an agent otherwise they wouldnt get in the door. These are business deals. Nothing more.
“That slob” pahahah
I agree with Simon
Jim white is just not on Simons level!
1:35 paraphrase "I don't quite know how we got into the territory of it (agent fee) being 10% when that's not a given in any other walk of life" - Please google: celebriry agents percentage. Tell me what you see?
Difference is that percentage is paid my the actors not the studio hiring the actors
Regulators!!!!!! Mount up!
Why are the clubs paying agents at all? They are the players agents surely they should be taking a percentage of their clients wages
Simon Jordan, top lad, cracking shirts. Different gravy.
I wish Jim would shut up and let Simon speak. "That was a lie.."...."well no it's not because" "Why is it not?' LET HIM SPEAK AND YOU'LL FIND OUT!!!! Jesus.
Music and acting agents earn a far higher percentage from their clients then football agents. It is the clubs who are at fault.they the one's who paying agents to try and get the best players. Fees are based on the high wages they are prepared to pay their players.
Funny listening to this after the ESL fiasco.
Furlough is using tax money Simon, end of. Cap agents and players if you truly want to change the game.
Wasn`t Simon Jordan chairmen at Palace who refused to pay Tim Cahill`s agent , meaning he signed for Everton , Thanks Si , COYB
Fair play to him, he is a man of principle
@@jimmyparkin9558 Fair enough can`t argue with that
Yeah so what
Simon giving off about mino always makes me laugh.
Can’t stand Jim. Talk sport sold its soul when Jim and he’s sky sports views turned up. #getjimout😂😂
Don’t get this obsession with the Prem bailing out the lower league. Broken logic.
The lower leagues will eventually collapse without help
Just people trying to spend other peoples' money.
Simon is very clever, Jim is very thick, end of story, Jim White can't even think of a good question for Simon period
ITV investigation. Come on Jimbo
Jim white is a bit clueless isn't he
I have cancelled Sky and turn off most days talk sport shame because I like Jordan, and Hawksby/Jacobs, but White just drives me nuts. He will campaign for anything sees himself as the saviour of the World, can't stand him.
Diversity on tv, get rid of jim.. and replace the host with a black or Asian person. I think alot of people are getting fed up of Jim whyte and the shows ratings so it aswell.. people only listen to the show now for Simon as he talks openly and honestly, the two words Jim knows nothing about and thats why people are hating him and can't relate to him talking on talksport or sky
Agents today are bottom feeders. Thief whole business model revolves around convincing players to move so they can get their percentage. They need to be regulated.
Disgraceful how these players didn't get a pay cut while normal people didn't have a choice. Oh but they kneel before every game so that makes them good.
they should of agreed to a pay cut as long as their club did not spend money in transfer windows you cant cut players money and then spend the money you saved on buying players
think the government stopped them. A paycut means less tax on thier wages...that's a big loss for the Country...so... let's hate footballers
Why are we listening to these two who have never kicked a ball ????
For once I actually agree with Simon Jordan
Jim white is so annoying
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Simon is going to have to get a whiteboard, start drawing pics and diagrams and then see if it sinks into Jim’s head.........Jesus what a tool
Jim doesn't know what he's talking about. Have figures on a paper, but don't know what they mean
Do you feel comfortable having paid your hard earned money to watch multi millionaire football players play average football and the same type of football you watch in Junior or Reserve games. You have the power to boycott games and unsubscribe to any broadcaster that move our traditional 3pm kick-offs, to times that suit them in the pursuit of massive advertisements profits and even more shareholder bonds. It's our game, they are our clubs
Postman Pat
Cr7 bought his agent an island, agents will gladly take flack as long as they make their money and their clients are happy lol riola can do one though
Pathetic how agents get paid these days. Absolute joke, that sort of money could be better spent on grassroots football or could be given to lower league clubs to prevent them from going bust. Money is RUINING the game!
Premier League is a 2 billion pound league. Kinda aiming your anger towards the wrong area here...
@@dealz5197 thank you for speaking sense
@@dealz5197 and I agree with you on that mate, the prem will always make a ridiculous amount of money, there's no denying that, but I am just looking at the big picture and the future of the game. The only reason cockroach agents like Raiola exist, is because there is money to be made. It is almost as if they are doing the thinking for their clients rather than players taking responsibility for their own careers. The prem should be regulating on how agents' influences. As a Man United fan, I'd love to have Haaland at our club, but the agent is the biggest stumbling block of all.
This is the worst episode of Line of Duty I've ever seen
It's like man utd are in debt so don't pay tax but still pay themselves a dividend and I'm a utd fan it's a joke
Jim really is a bit thick isn't he
Must be frustrating for Simon , he spends his days trying to educate this buffoon , give it up Simon you are wasting your time mate .
I’ve always said football needs a haircut. Short back and sides I say
He’s talking shite... any owner who can afford to pay an individual player 300k a week, is making a lot of money
Well said Simon because one day the football in this country will go with a bang the wages for football players in the premier league is absolutely ridiculous and something needs to be done right across the board including agents fees🤬
As for Newcastle yes they let the government pay the staff on furlough not necessarily to reduce the players wages more because it’s Mike Ashley and in many people’s opinion he should fail the owners and directors test especially in the last 6 years on what he is doing too our club.
Yes he has done some decent things in the early days but now he is stripping the club of every single Penny the club is rotten from the top.
Ashley out Bruce out. 🤬
Jim out!!!!!
jim white is thick
Put Jim in the OAP home man bin this clown
Fifa don't want to regulate. The establishment wants to keep the wealth within the handful of privileged at the top. Why would they want the status quo to change and dilute their wealth.
I wish I was good at football lol
Jim I like you but this is embarrassing
Football is better than ever , clubs paying the agent fees isn't a big deal to me . We need more top player in the premier League .
True, but it doesn't mean we need to pat agents ridiculous amounts to get them there
@@dendenn7383 no one is forcing clubs to pay the agent fees , clubs to do it because the players are worth it , top football players are top clubs are underpaid .
Why what top players did Leicester football club have when they won the league. The EPL needs more honest players rather than false top players
@@glennferguson1045 kante ? Mahrez ? Vardy ? Are those not top players , also that was a freak season it happens once in every 30 yrs ,if that .
@ceejay1872 #55 Leicester city have great scouting & development . Kante ,& mahrez are still top players 5 yrs later
Both a bunch of plonkers
Who cares?
The Premier League has the best players because of the agents and without them maneuvering player sale pitches to all these big clubs, epl wouldnt be this phly.
Epitomises why I gave up on talk sport . Jim White has and most likely always will be a pandering twat . 2020 has literally destroyed any enjoyment I had in main stream media . The positive side is I got back to reading more and listening to podcasts which free you up to crack on with things . The saying ‘ignorance is bliss’ is still very true but sod that 😂✌️
Jim shite is clueless 😏
Both are so arrogant and pompous I don't know how they are allowed their own show
Jim White; once again being a complete ignoramus
The working class will soon desert football due to the extortionate wages the players are receiving. Football is dead folks, the greedy have won! Oh, and the tv rights will not be the same as they are now. Sky and BT subscriptions are falling like a stone.
Jim wins right at the end
Must we really hear advise from a FAILED CHAIRMAN 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣