Honest Review of the S&W M&P 2.0 Metal Competitor...The Pros and Woes
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- @The2AExperiment Brings you an honest review of the Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 Metal Competitor. Now With Chapters!!!
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0:00 Intro
Specs/Features 1:00
Reason(s) we got it 6:50
Our experience with it - The Rant Begins 10:35
The love story begins 15:28
The rattle 18:00
Final Thoughts 19:05
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You got to love these guys the way they are just completely honest you have to love them .
Great vid, great channel, great shirt in the opening! lol! Keep up the great work guys!
Wow. Coming from you, that means a lot. Much appreciated.
Great review. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you. We did a follow-up with the Floyd's Customs porting. Makes the gun pretty damn great.
Thinking of getting one myself. Nice review!
Thanks Man, we appreciate it. The more guns we shoot, the more this gun shines. Hard to beat it for the price.
Great stuff, keep it up.
Thank you! We have many more in store.
Very helpful, thank you. I’m going back and forth between the PDP Match Polymer and the Competitor. The main plus I see in the PDP is the trigger and I can always upgrade the Competitor trigger. So you helped me lean more towards the Competitor
Sorry, my reply disappeared. The trigger in the PDP is definitely better, but as you said, you can always throw an Apex, or other trigger in it. We haven't shot the polymer match, and it is a little different than the Pro SD we have, but I cannot imagine it shoots differently. I know it is hard to do, but if you can shoot both guns, that is the best way to tell. There is a lot of subjectivity when it comes to firearms, as we all have different hands and preferences. I don't think you can go wrong with either gun, and they are both coming down in price. Let us know what you decide, and what you think of the gun you choose. Thanks for the comment.
Good idea, yes, I need to shoot both. I think some ranges in Tulsa let you rent a gun, if they have anything that nice that is 😀Thanks again!
Just found the channel. Love it! It's funny you had that experience with S&W. I have a full size that was DOA from day one. I think I lost about 3 to 4 years of my life dealing with their customer service.
Anyway, I'll have a video out once I get those years back 😂.
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Thanks for checking out the channel. I never had an S&W dead on arrival, but at least I know if it does happen, they will take care of it...in their own sweet time. I hope you get those years back. We appreciate the comment and the Sub. Thanks again. Oh, and I have been subscribed to you for a while. How funny. Watching your FN 509 build video right now. Good stuff.
@@The2AExperiment I appreciate that my man. Smith and Wesson did take care of me but in a very unique way. If all goes to plan, I should be able to work on that video this weekend and have it released next week. Take care and keep the contents coming!
@@parunbelhomme we apparently run in the same circles lol
@@360TacticalSolutions imagine that 🤣
Excellent assessment. I’m glad that you took a moment and commented on my video which gave me an opportunity to take a look at some of your content. I’ll be keeping an eye on the channel and seeing how you guys grow. Keep it up
Thanks. We appreciate it, and thanks for the sub too. We do things a bit different, but we are having a great time. Thanks again.
Great explanation, btw, I liked the voice at the beginning of video .
Thank you. You may be the only person who likes the openings. Lol. We are still debating on whether or not we should keep doing them. At least we know one person likes them. Thanks for watching, and for the comment. If you haven't already, don't forget to subscribe. We appreciate it.
@@The2AExperiment. Keep the head up, you have really good videos . When I started my channel on 2020 was really hard for me and took me a while to start monetizing my content , I was not even speaking English during those and I remember I was active duty in the army and I had a lot things going on around, either way I continued creating content and here I am making much better now, even speaking English with an strong accent .
Don’t give up, you’re almost there !!! 💪💪💪🫡
@@espinoza-adventure Thank you for sharing your story and for the encouraging words. When we were watching some of your videos we wondered if you were active duty. Now we know. Also, congratulations on learning English. That is no small feat.
We have many things planned, but as you know, the resource that is most scarce, is time. Next would be ammo.🙂 We are going to make it happen, and as you said, we are close. Thank you again my friend. We appreciate the support, and we wish you much continued success with your amazing channel.
Excellent review, imma big M&P guy my EDC is a M&P 10mm love it need this one
Thank you. We really like M&Ps. I carried the M&P 2.0 4" compact for a long time. We have 4 of them. Best out of the box carry pistol, in my opinion.
The Metal Competitor is a fun gun. We just got the barrel back from Floyd's Customs and had it at the range. The port job is awesome. We will have a video up about it soon. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yours is the second review I’ve seen with issues on this gun. I bought one and haven’t had either this or the other issue. I’m going to start competing with this this year and it’s just as good as my m&p 9 1.0.
It's funny, I held one of these in a shop before I bought it, and it was fine: no rattle, the sights were straight, just normal. I was pretty sad the one I ordered showed up with QC issues. Either way, we really like the firearm. Good luck competing this year, and thanks for the comment.
Lol, "We put a threaded barrel in there for you" Haha, so funny.
Had mine for about a year and it's perfect. The only thing I found was that front grip. I also had to put tape behind it and now it's solid as a rock. I carry a Shield Plus or M&P 2.0 with 3.6 barrel.
It's a solid piece. We were just shooting it yesterday because we had it ported from Floyd's customs. It's even better, and only cost $114. Money well spent. We'll be doing an update on it soon. Now we just need an Apex trigger in it to speed it up a bit on the reset. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I like mine a lot. I didn’t have any issues with the sights being off. I do have the rattling front grip though. It’s not terribly loose, just a little that you only notice if you intentionally shake the gun. I do enjoy shooting it a lot. Sold my PDP because it was just too snappy to enjoy shooting. The PDP was way snappier than even my M&P Shield Plus and P365XL. The Canik Rival (polymer) seemed like a better gun, but its build quality compared to the M&P Competitor wasn’t close, just made me not want to keep it for the long term (the Rival). So I’m keeping the Competitor but will probably put an Apex trigger in it and find some real magazine extended base plates for it.
I'm glad to hear your M&P is in good shape. @nightwoodguns reviewed the M&P metal a while back, and I believe he had some QC issues too, or maybe he had a bent front sight. If you haven't already, you should check it out. Either way, it is a good, well rounded firearm that can hold multiple roles. As to the front strap, as we said in the video, a simple piece of doubled up masking tape, laid under the strap corrected it. And nobody knows it's there. Thanks for watching and commenting. We appreciate it.
My Competitor also came with a loose front strap that was easily fixed with a little industrial adhesive. The trigger really smoothed out after just a few rounds. So far, it’s been extremely reliable and fun to shoot. Looks cool in two-tone, too.
The lose frontstrap seems to be common, but as you said, easy fix. The two tone does look cool. We already have several all black M&Ps, so we decided on the all silver. Cool thing is, the M&P 2.0 4" compact slide fits on the metal frame, and vice-versa. We just sent our barrel off to Floyd's Customs to get it ported. Pretty excited to see how it turns out. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@The2AExperiment Oh man, you’re getting the barrel ported by Floyd’s? I’ve considered sending my barrel to them for porting, too! Can’t wait to see the results video!
@@wisco_guy we're pretty excited too. A subscriber suggested it, and it's only $100 for the competitor because it doesn't need slide work. We'll review it after we get it back and put it through its paces. Hopefully, we won't need a new spring. Fingers crossed.
How much difference does that porting make? Seems like the porting goes out the sides rather than the top
@@ericsmith4082 We didn't have the porting done at the time of the video, but we had it done recently, and it is great. We are posting a video about it this week. The ports are on the side of the barrel and they match up with the holes in the slide.
LOL First time watching your channel, and I was hoping the over the top accent you used at the beginning was truly the way talked! Regardless, great review brother, keep up the great work!
That's funny. I wondered if people would think I really talk like that. We wanted to have some fun with the channel, so I do a silly opening in all but the PDP review, which was our first vid. We're glad you liked the review and we appreciate the comment. You'll probably like the opening in the Sig Romeo X vid too. It's really over the top. Thanks again.
Loved mine!
You said "loved mine." Do you still have it? We like it too, even with the issues we had. Thanks for the comment.
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where do you get those Glass Pistol Display Stand?
You're the second person to ask me that. They are from Amazon. A company call called No MAR. They definitely work thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Do you knoe if the m&p 2.0 metal spec version 23round mags will fit ?
I never tried them myself, but I saw some reviews on Mag Warehouse that said they were using the 23 rounders in their 2.0 Metal Competitor for matches and they worked great. It makes sense because the 23 rounders do not have the flat baseplate, so they should fit in the magwell. Sorry I don't have a definitive answer, but that's the best info I could find. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yo Vinny, just found your channel.... Love it so I Subscribed & Liked!! Thanks for the thorough review. My question to You is, if you had to pick between the Sig P320 DH3 & The Competitor, which would choose? I'm torn between the 2 and after seeing your collection in the background, can't wait to hear your answer. Even if you haven't shot the DH3, still would appreciate your personal opinion. Thank you!!!!
First, thanks for the comment, like, and sub. We appreciate it. Second, you asked me a question I prayed no one would ever ask. lol. I do not have the DH3, but we do have the 320 X-Five legion. I have held the DH3, and seriously considered getting one, for the amazing grip texture over the legion. It's a cool gun.
Either way, that's tough - the competitor and DH3 are so different. The biggest thing they have in common it amazing grip texture and bang for the buck, but it's like comparing oranges to grapefruits.
Shannon said DH3 all day. She really likes the Legion.
I say, It really depends what you want if for. The Competitor is a do-it-all gun and they give you parts in the box to make it a duty gun, if you want. It is a jack of all trades kind of gun, that is good at everything, and bad at nothing - but not necessarily great at anything.
The Legion, and DH3 are born for competition - and they are unique, because they are tungsten infused poly, they are heavy as hell, they have a light recoil impulse, but they are still a bit bulky/deliberate. The triggers are so different too.
If I could only have one, as a range toy or competition gun, DH3. For a do everything gun, M&P all day. Now we have to make a video on it. LOl. Thanks again, for everything.
Hey Goomba, thank you for the detailed response and the time you took to thoroughly answer my question. You & Your Wife are knowledgeable and entertaining at the same time. I will be following your channel regularly! Thanks again!!! @@The2AExperiment
@@Mike-ox1bu glad to be of assistance, and again, we appreciate the support. If you end up getting the M&P or DH3, let us know.
Hey Vinny, I was able to rent the Competitor yesterday at my local range. You were "Spot On" about it being a good gun but great at nothing. I really liked it but it didn't wow me at all. Could get one for $900.00 here in Phoenix but I'm not going to. Now, onto the Sig DH3.... Haven't been able to hold one yet but plan to soon. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the good advice!! @@The2AExperiment
@@Mike-ox1bu thanks for the update. It's great you were able to try one first. May not be as lucky with the DH3, but it is very similar to the X-Five Legion, which may be available somewhere. The $900 price tag is a bit high too. At $800, it offers a lot of possibilities for use, and it is only around $150 more than most poly guns, but you get all the extras. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the DH3.
Do you know the dimension of the rear sights (and forward sights) dovetail cut out? It looks like it's smaller than the usual M&P9 2.0, so I guess I won't be able to use sights not made specifically for the Competitor. The reason for this is I am looking for some rear sights with color/fiber installed
I don't know the exact size, but I believe they are the same as any M&P optic ready/CORE pistol. I compared it with one of our optic ready 2.0s and it looks to be the same. I also searched the internet and it doesn't look like there are any sights specific to the metal series. Only optic ready and non optic ready sights. I don't have calipers to get a definitive answer, but looks like anything for an OR M&P should work.
@@The2AExperiment Great. Thanks a lot for the answer. I have ordered mine but it takes a couple of month here in Denmark, to get the permits in place.
@@kanamouxalel2679 no problem, and congratulations. It's a fun gun. We had ours ported from Floyd's custom shop and it is amazing. We just posted a video about it. Let us know what you think about yours once you have some trigger time on it.
Send it to Floyds custom to get the barrel ported...completely changes the way it shoots. Had mine done and I don't want to shoot anything else!
Thanks for the info. Did you have to change the springs? If so, what did you use? Thanks.
@@The2AExperiment Im still running the stock recoil spring. I have at least 1000 rounds through it with no issues. Floyds killed it with this upgrade. I have also have the M2.0 spec series with the Faxon comp and they are really close when it comes to recoil mitigation. If I had to choose it would be the competitor for sure. Thanks...Subscribed.
@@kerryhartman4497 Just ordered the porting. I will send it off tomorrow. Thanks.
Awesome! Can't wait for the review. Take care.
DUDE i love mine its glorious. I like it more than my staccato P
I don't have a Staccato P, but the M&P Metal is definitely a nice firearm. Hard to beat it out of the box, especially at it's price point. It really can be a do it all pistol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Bob the crosseyed gunsmith strikes again!
Oh man! I just noticed my front sight it off to the left! Wtf man
Sorry to hear that. It seems to be a common issue. You can always send it back to S&W and maybe they will push your sight too far to the right, and replace your sear housing, even though you didn't ask for it, like they did for us. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I was going to buy this gun but I am no longer going to I have seen bad review after bad review about this gun and that's a shame because it's such a nice looking gun
As we said at the end of the review, even with the original QC issues, we really like the gun. It's not amazing, but it's really good, if that makes sense. It was on sale for $800. If we would have bought it in person, and not ordered it, we wouldn't have had the silly things we experienced as I would have noticed crooked sights and a rattling frontstrap. The one we held in the store didn't have either issue.
We just sent ours off to Floyd's customs to be ported too, so we are looking forward to getting it back. If you can hold the one you are going to buy, and it's $800, and you like the M&P platform, you are good. Thanks for watching and commenting.
the front sight was off not centered
Good eye! It's actually slightly bent and I gave up messing with it since I am running an optic. That's why I didnt want to push it in the first place. I have the Wheeler sight pusher and it isn't great, especially on a Smith, because you are only locking onto the very bottom of the slide. And, it is horrible for pushing angled rear sights. I am thinking about getting the MGW sight pusher, as this isn't my only gun with sight issues. Do you have any recommendations on sight pushers? Thanks for watching and commenting.
I got mine it was supposed to be "new" but I swear this has scratches all over it and seems used, Lol.... all good though.
Lol. It really is better to buy a firearm in person. The one I held in the store was perfect, and the one I ordered was goofy, which we discussed in the video. We had it ported, and did a video about it. We love it and it's now one of our favorite guns. Thanks for stopping by and commenting and congrats on your new competitor.
@@The2AExperiment thank you!
FYI, the front grip pad rattling is a universal problem with all competitors
Maybe some are just looser than others. I held one in a shop and it didn't rattle at all. Maybe it's a temperature thing. Luckily, it's a minor issue that a small piece of tape fixes. Thanks for the comment.
Canik Rival S is a better weapon. Much better trigger. Weighs 42.6 oz with an empty mag.
I've heard good things about the Canik. You get a lot of goodies with it too, but it's a different gun. As you said, the canik is over 40oz, this is 28, with an optic. Very lightweight, which is why we wanted it. We already have a few heavy pistols. Hell, I wish I had all the pistols. I would like to compare the Canik SF to the Walther 5" PDP SF. They are more similar. Thanks for the comment.
@@The2AExperiment The Canik has a very similar trigger to the Walther. I wonder which one copied the other. I paid $849 delivered, no tax, for my Canik. The Walther is $1,800. Guess you are paying for the "Walther" name.
@@joed3264 Yep, the Walther is pricy. We have one and we did two videos with it. That's the main reason I would like to compare it to the Canik. The Canik SF I looked at the other day was $999. That's less than half of the walther SF. Like I said, I hope we can get ahold of the Canik too. As to design, I believe the Caniks are Turkish Walther clones, with creature comfort upgrades, like steel sights and lots of case candy, which is a good thing. Everyone seems to really like the Caniks. Thanks for the reply. You should go check out our Walther SF review and update.
It’s the new m n p they suck lately af far as qc
Yes, a few other people have had similar issues with the competitor, like loose front straps and poorly pushed sights. Smith will take care of if for you, but it's a pain. Once it's straight, it's a damn nice firearm, especially with the porting from Floyd's Custom Shop.
Wow how ridiculous lol there dreams are better than the cringe reality.
Interesting assessment. We'll keep it in mind going forward. Thanks for the feedback. Have a great day.
this may be the most stupid video on youtube.
Impressive. I was thinking it was only the third most stupid video on CZcams. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.