Unboxing M&P2.0 Metal Spec Series....Aaaaand a problem
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- We just picked up this beautiful Smith and Wesson 2.0 Metal Spec Compensated 9mm, and we were THRILLED to get it to the range....that was until the first shot was fired. It was all down hill from there. We think we have the remedy for what is ailing this pistol, but only time and Smith and Wesson will tell if it will be applied.
I own the metal competitor and put the faxon comp on it. I followed the instructions and used the red loctite, took it out to the range and the screws backed out. Then I realized that red loctite is only removable when heat is applied. So I replaced the red with blue and have had zero issues. Also 124 or 148 grain weight works better for cycling a handgun with a comp.
Spot on, shot mine and was stove piping.checked comp and put a lot more of that thread locker on it and it seems fine. However I have thought about dimpling the barrel and getting a point on new set screws. Great video.
Thank you Robert. Glad to know we're on the same page.
Did you read the instruction manual ? It says to lock tight the comp .
Had some similar issues with first range trip. Like most folks with a new toy, you head straight to the range. Last mag of prolly 100 rounds and had same issues I’m seeing here with the set screws backing out and the comp spinning. Got home and took a deep dive into the case and find the Faxon bag for the comp with the Vibra-tite (not regular ole red Locktite) unopened and the Allen wrench for the set screws. Found that to be a little off as customarily, when you buy a comped pistol the comp (usually made by the pistol manufacturer) comes factory installed, ready out of the box -not separately in a bag with comp installation instructions. -nor does the manual cover this install for this version. Anyhow, I soon realized that S&W does not install the comp at the factory. Like the thread protector, and the suppressor heights sites, the comp appears to be a provided option to the owner. -thus “here’s the comp if you want it and instructions/tools for the install” if you want to go that route. -all without saying it’s literally just sitting on there now for looks in the case. I followed the install directions and no problems since. The Vibra-tite is serious shit in about 2 min as I waited a smidge too long to time the comp with the set screws and had to back it off with a pair of channel locks! As the directions indicate, the set screws are not meant to hold the comp on/in place. The Vibra-tite does that. The set screws are used for timing placement only. I would not use the Vibra-tite on the set screws and the directions say not to. I used a little dab of purple Locktite on them and am in 500 with no issues. I agree sloppy execution by S&W. Not sure I could get the comp off and install a can if I wanted to……
Just picked mine up the other day. Had your exact same issue. Actually lost one of my set screws because i didnt realize it was spinning until i got home. Put that vibra tight on it and luckily i had aligned my comp already before i set it down to get the set screw blue loctited and ready to go and i picked the gun back up just to realize the comp would no longer move 😂😂 perfectly aligned and set in place. Put the set screw in and ran 100 through it with no issues. Gonna run 300-500 more before I’m satisfied but i think it’s good to go. I had a few stove pipes on the first range trip too straight out the box then realized the feed ramp was dry as shit. Lubed the hell out of it and hasn’t had a malfunction since.
Zero issues with mine with or without the comp on it. Best M&P pistol I own.
Good to hear it. Hate to think that a lot have the issue.
Same here no issues at all even after placing a HoloSun optic on it. Absolutely love mine.
Anyone find a holster for this model yet?
@@ericklozada2440I'm still looking. Any suggestions?
@raqamsonofmanasseh tier1 or freedom holsters i believe
I purchased this gun 1 month ago, took it to the range that weekend. Tan one 17 round magazine thru it and it stopped. Tried it without the compensator, nothing, tried it with just one round in the chamber, nothing. The trigger would not reset. Sent it off to S&W. They received it on 2/6. I emailed them after 2 weeks. They said they did have it and it was with the technicians but they didn’t know the status. They will email me when they ship it back. It’s been 3 weeks since they received it. With FFL fees and shipping, I spent just over $1,000 on this gun and haven’t seen it for 3 weeks. But hey, Ive got a really cool challenge coin to show off!
Brother, I am sorry to hear that you're having this many problems. You would really think accompany like S&W would have their shit together... especially on guns like this. I wish I had a contact there to help you out, but the one guy I did know in PR is gone too
But I am glad you're enjoying that coin.
I have an M&P 2.0 that is a fantastic gun, the main reason I bought this one. Your video is the first one I’ve seen that has reported on a problem. Thanks for posting.
Have you got it resolved?
@@Emilianoo8 It took 4 weeks, but I finally got it back. They replaced the sear and adjusted the trigger. I’ve put about 600 rounds through it since and had no issues.
I got this one Feb 28. It was the most expensive gun that I have. Unfortunately, I had the same problems of the brass not ejecting every 3rd round. I called S&W and the 1st rep sent me another spring and recommended 125 grain. So I went back to the range with 124 gr and the original spring and same problem. So I called S&W again and the 2nd rep said he never heard of this problem and recommended 300-500 rounds w/o comp to break in or I could send the gun to S&W for them to check. I chose to shoot the 300-500 rounds w/o the comp. It worked flawlessly w/o the comp with 115 & 124 grain (Blazer, Norma, Winchester & Federal). So now I'm around 600 rounds. I'll try 100-150 more and reinstall the comp and see what happens. It shoots accurately at 7.5yds & 15 yds w/o comp. By the way the comp did not move for the first 50 rounds.
I'm really starting to see a pattern with this gun. Once they're running right, they're awesome, but they should be running right FROM THE FACTORY. I'm hoping yours finds it's groove before you have spent more in ammo than the gun itself.
Great review I have the Bull shark and got a comp from for it. I have the same issues. The long reset messes with my timing with speed shooting and the comp I'll have to try again to mount. It came lose even after I used the locktie and set screws. Really disappointed and was so excited to get this one. There is no way I would carry it's too inconsistent right now.
I think the more people that buy this gun, the more people are going to recognize these issues. Right now there's a lot of people making excuses instead of figuring out solutions. For a grand, this thing should have been worked out a wee bit more before releasing...but that's what "next gen" is for I guess
@Range-Report the comp I got for my pdp mounted with no screws no problem. I agree with you. I think it's a configuration issue of how they designed it to connect.They should have taken more time on it if they were making it a flagship pistol. I'm looking forward to the TTI combat and their comp system.
I just bought one yesterday. I love the look and feel of it, it will make a great paper weight. Cause it wont shoot more than 1-3 rounds in a row before it either stove pipes or I get a FTF. I went through 4 to 5 mags and almost every time I shot it I was having to drop the mag and clear it. I didn't have the same issue as you with my comp being crooked I had to use a wrench to get my comp off. I will try it tomorrow with out the comp and see if I still have the same issue. If it does I am going to be pretty upset and probably spend the rest of my life to cause as many loss of sales as possible. I don't make a lot of money, and I like to buy nice stuff and I thought this would be a nice added feature to my small collection. I worked a lot of OT just so I could buy this thing. Maybe if they stopped adding a Shit I Dont NEED, they could spend more money on testing and evaluation of their products. This is the first S&W 2.0 I've bought. All I can say is I am thoroughly unimpressed.
Mine did the same running 115gr. Switched to 124 gr almost no problems. Used 147 and zero problems. Just bought mine last week.
I’ve owned a lot of guns, and just like buying a brand new car, some have malfunctions or defects, even in brand new products where others work perfectly fine, and I’ve seen many other videos on this gun and runs flawlessly, suppressed, and with the compensator on it. So sorry that you got one that no doubthad problems just like other new things you buy and go what the heck I’m sure Smith and Wesson will make it right and send you a brand new one or fix this one. Thank you for your video.
Appreciate the kind words William. It's hard for a lot of people to understand that not every firearm runs like a sewing machine right out of the box. Like anything else, some just need a little tweaking to make them right. I've had $200 guns that have run hundreds of rounds without a single issue, and $2000 guns that have been nothing but headaches. Thanks again for your commentary...hope to hear from you again! Happy Shooting!
I bought it a month ago and have the same problem. I do love it (without the comp on). With it on,I’m not confident shooting.
That's more evidence that S&W needs to figure out a better system to retain proper alignment of that comp. We're going to dimple our barrel so the set screws can index it properly with the set screws bottomed out.
Thank you for this video. Same issues and very frustrating. Glad I’m not alone.
We're going to be posting a video detailing how we "fixed" the compensator issue. It's kind of crappy that we have to do such a thing, but it seems a lot of us have been having the very same issue with this gun. I'm just curious as to why none of the "big" channels haven't made mention of it. $
Damn you guys must have bought the first ones to come out. Mine runs just fine. I put loctite on those set screws before I shot it though. The thing is amazing.
We did get a jump on this one for sure. We've got it worked out now and she's humming, but I still think there's a better long term fix that could be applied. Glad yours is all good. Give us an update after a case or 2....we'd love to hear how it holds up for you
@@Range-Reporthow did you get it worked out ?been looking at this handgun but worried of the comp for the price it is
@@Emilianoo8 at first, we used a ton of loctite and torqued the set screws down hard, and it worked fine. I just hated the idea of needing to do that every time if I wanted to swap on a can. So I had the barrel dimpled where the set screws go. That little bit of positive engagement worked perfectly. I still need an Allen key to remove the comp, but at least I'm not fighting the loctite and risking stripping them out. I still think S&W should employ this fix.
I bought the same gun, haven't ran into a problem of the gun not cycling/not functioning... yet. When I first got the gun I took the comp off and followed the procedure described in the video Faxon made for installation instructions. I ran around 243 rounds on the first range trip, 115 gr FMJ and some 115 gr. JHP. The last round fired I felt a noticeable difference in the recoil impulse. I found the passenger side set screw had back out completely and the driver side was out almost to the point of disappearing. This caused some marring on the comp and barrel. I was unable to find the set screw among the pile of brass at the range. I guess I will be contacting Faxon and Smith and Wesson on possible replacement. I plan on asking if maybe applying low strength loctite to the set screws might be a possible solution.
Curious to hear if you found a solution for the comp?
Yeah, unfortunately, it sounds like you got your hands on a bad one. The first one I've heard to have multiple issues. But the Spec ops M&P is a work horse and a great pistol. Recommend that you reach out to S&W.
Yes I had the same problem with mines. It was worse unboxing ever. But the second and third it was perfect.
I carry a S&W M&P .40, Pro Series. No reason to change. EDC for 6 years, haven't found anything better, simple as that. To each his own, as long as you are proficient with it and it's reliable-YOU'RE GOOD !!
I just want this issue with the compensator to be remedied. Otherwise, it's an awesome platform
I also have an M&P C.O.R.E. 9mm and though it's not my EDC it is a great tool to have in the box also..Amongst the 1911's and other assorted stuff..
@@Range-Report
Thank you for your detailed review. I was considering buying one but I think I'll spend my money elsewhere. Don't need to spend that kind of money for problems!
Can't agree with this. Unfortunately, he got his hands on one that has issues. But the spec ops M&P is a great gun.
Please refrain from gutting in self defense situations
Mine has been free of any problems. Have 1700 rounds through mine.
My Shield Plus Performance Center is on it's way back from warranty for 2nd time. It's junk. Springfields the way to go! They'll eat anything you throw at em!
They need a Qa. dept.
Debating between this and the competitor. Same price point. Any advice helps!
I think it's going to be a bit of a trade-off proposition for you. On one hand, the competitor is a good looking gun with very nice lightening cute. It looks like it MAY have a lower bore axis, but I cannot be sure without one in hand. It's certainly shorter over-all, but that's because you're losing some options. There's no compensator, or threaded barrel, so you won't be able to run a can. The Metal Comp has a threaded barrel, bushing, compensator, palm swells and 4 mags (2 are 22 round). The rub for me is that I had a LOT of problems with the compensator twisting and locking up the slide. Also, it needs 147 grains to run with the comp. The Competitor looks to be able to run everything. I think your best option is to take them both for a test drive and ask yourself what exactly you're going to use it for, and be honest with yourself. Me...after getting the kinds worked out, the Metal Comp is running amazingly....and it came with a Challenge Coin! (that's a bit of a running joke). Please let me know what you wind up doing, I'd love to know.
@@Range-Reportthanks for the through response! Lol keep the coin, it’ll be worth thousands some day 😂
That’s a nice looking gun, but I’m old fashion I’ll stick with my Glock
Did you loctite the set screws? I have heard this is a way to fix the comp.
The Smith at the FFL put some on the barrel to secure the comp, but only the slightest bit on the set screws themselves...per my request. I don't want to run the risk of stripping the heads if I should happen to want to remove it
1:00 sounds like standard operation of Winchester white box 9mm😂
U shouldn't worry bout lok tite on the barrel threads, u need lok tite on the set screws
So this is the only video I have seen with any issues. Not sure what that means.
You will have your hearing protection on anyway. You act like you're going to hear it click when the trigger resets.
Do those set screws go into an indentation?
Take comp off n should be fine. Why I don’t run a comp on my pistols
Removing the comp kinda defeats the purpose of having the comp in the first place. I'd rather that things work the way they are supposed to than have to trade off performance for a poorly executed design.
@@Range-Report try sig if you want a comp they made it apart of slide n from what I’ve seen runs everything n its more reliable first to ever do it pretty Amazing few models they make with it. N made in USA
@@tacticalbt1023 it's not so much a matter of what we want...we try to review everything regardless of our own need. Trying to get the best information out to the public as we can. If we only reviewed what we like, there'd be nothing but lever actions and peacemakers on this channel....maybe some full auto stuff too. LOL
I am glad I watched this video. I love S&W but I was planning to buy this gun for duty use, obviously not a good choice with that design flaw.
Don't discount the gun entirely because of what we experienced. We had the FFL Gunsmith address the issue and have since run about 800 rounds through it without issue. You can also remove the comp entirely and put the thread protector on it. Then you're able to run a wider variety of bullet weights. I'm not trying to sell you the gun...believe me. We want everyone to make up their own minds and use their best judgement. Our advice...take one for a test drive if you can. Whatever you choose, please stop back and let us know what it was.
14 round magazines??? Really. The fact that you didn’t know they a full size sw mp comes with a min 17 rd mag or higher really makes me think this video is suspect.
Dude, I was more concerned with the problems we were having with the gun rather than the round count of the magazines. I reviewed 8 guns that day, so forgive me if I misspoke about which gun has what mag. As for your comment about me being the only guy with a video showing problems with the gun...maybe because I'm one of the few who reviewed the gun that actually plopped down a thousand dollars to buy it rather than having S&W send me one for a review. I don't overlook problems in order to get free shit from anyone. PS...check the comments...other people have had the very same problems.
Is it a pressure issue?
Oh, index, i see
Hola Frank-a-rino.
Another poorly thought out design.
Do you have one and used one ? Or you just based it out of the video? Why is it bad ? Seems like it's a bad one apparently. But I don't know much about guns
@@zaidflowers1828 I do not have one. I just do not like a design where a compensator works itself loose. I think the M&P metal and the M&P in general is fine. It is possible for any pistol to have issues and need to be sent back to the maker but the compensator attachment method is less than ideal. I am not a fan of porting on pistols in general either. But some are.
The range report has been deranged
You got problems JBish