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@@OutlierSouth thanks.

@@abeylove6302 I was lucky, it snapped at a weird angle and a sliver of the screw was sticking up past the hole in the slide, so I was able to use a screwdriver to twist it out. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@fullmetal1157 it's in the video for reference. I believe it is model C8C680. It's a stainless steel, multicoil spring and it's on Beretta's site. It's cheap too. Other companies are making them too, but we haven't tried them. Thanks for watching.

Same here. Major stovepipes.

@@daniel45-70 I was surprised by the machining too. You lose about an inch of rifling. It works though. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I hope you enjoy the Floyd's port job.

@@terryoliver1410 glad you like the dot. I don't care for your bad ass crappy comment. Lol enjoy your new optic.

I was clearly making light of the negative part of your comment, but if you are offended, that's fine. You don't have to watch the channel. Either way, I hope the dot works out for you.

@@stephenpatton8690 I am not buying metal files and sanding down the beaver tail and then having it recoated. This thing costs $2000. Did you miss that? If you don't want to hear our thoughts on the gun, stop watching. Simple as that.

@@stephenpatton8690 I'll think about it.

Hello again. The loose front insert is a really easy fix, but it should not happen at all. As to the sides, we use the medium large backstrap, so the palm swells do the trick for us and we have no slippage. However, there is a company out there who makes a stick on inserts for the sides which match the grip texture. the link is here: tactical.dev/products/grip-stickies-for-smith-wesson-m-p-2-0-metal The company is called tactical development. I have not used their products, but I saw one of their videos and it looks like it should solve any issue someone is having with grip on the sides. Plus, it's inexpensive. As always, thanks for watching and commenting.

I am glad to hear we agree CZ could have done a better job on the beavertail. As to the zombie apocalypse LOL. It's tough. Out of the box, I would say it's a tossup. Our PDP Pro SD 5.1" has a much better trigger that never froze up on me, and it comes with three 18rd mags, and It works better suppressed. But, the sights are cheap plastic and if I had to smack a zombie, or an unfriendly human, they may brake off. I guess out of the box I will have to say PDP Pro SD. If it were the way I have both guns setup today, I may go with the CZ P-10F OR SR. I can shoot the CZ faster and flatter with the new MCarbo trigger, because the CZ is heavier and has the Glock grip angle. The sights are far better as well. Plus, the CZ will stay in your hands better if they get wet from the aftermath, it's far more grippy. The CZ P-10F is also stupid big, so you can use it as a long distance bludgeon if you run out of rounds. Both good choices. I would probably go with an M&P over Both. LOL. Thanks for the great question and for watching. What would you choose?

@@The2AExperiment that new M&P Carry comp looks fire 🔥. Hope you guys review it. Thanks for your input, awesome reviews 🙌

@@ozAl.2023 It does look pretty cool. Hopefully, one day S&W will see we exist and send us some products for review. Who knows, we may end up buying one anyway. Thanks again for watching, commenting, and for the compliment.

@@sonin15 your the first and only! As alwaysn thanks for stopping by. We appreciate it.

@@DreamboiiMakeAhSceneSSB lol. Awesome. I admit I was surprised by the optic. After we released the review, I watched other people's reviews of a variety of Cyelee optics it seems they had similar experiences to ours. Seems like Cyelee is on to something. Thanks for stopping by.

We are really impressed with the PDP Pro SD, and now that it's in the mid $600 range, it's hard to beat it. We have been testing it with different springs and we have the Harrington Comp. At some point we will finish the testing and get a video out covering it all. As to the PDP SF, some people really like it, and overall it's not a bad gun, but I just don't understand all the hype. Especially at $2,000. We shoot a lot of guns and it just doesn't do anything special. It really may come down to different hand sizes and preference. We have only had one or two other people comment that they had issues with the beavertail digging into them, so it may not be an issue for you. If you can get your hands on one and put a few hundred rounds through it, you will see if it is something that effects you. Most people who review or own the PDP SF seem to like it, and many people have argued we are crazy for not loving it. It is funny though that out of all the people we let shoot ours, only one person loved it and bought one. The others were not that impressed. One of our friends who competes went with the Canik steel frame and he loves it. We have been able to shoot the hell out of his and I have to say, I like it more than the PDP SF, and it's half the cost. So, if you really like that firearm, you may want to jump on it. Again, if you are able to test a PDP SF, you will know for yourself. Either way, good luck with your steel frame gun purchase. There are lots of good options out there. If are not looking for a striker fired competition gun, and you are looking in the $2,000 range, don't sleep on the SIG Custom Works P226 X-Five. It's our favorite firearm at that price point, and they are still making them. It's an all steel, single action only, 4 way adjustable trigger beast. Thanks for watching and commenting. Let us know what you end up with.

@@The2AExperiment Cool! I’ll be watching for your full Pro SD review. I almost bought one before I bought my second full size PDP 5 inch. I’m not a competitive shooter although it looks like a lot of fun to challenge skills with. So I’m not necessarily looking for a threaded barrel for a can or compensator. Although I do have a Canik TP9 Elite Combat with a threaded barrel that is a very nice shooter and has been totally reliable. I’m strictly just a self defense shooter that loves to take as many classes as I can to be as effective and proficient as I can. And honestly, having a nice steel frame gun would really be more of a “range toy” for me and just to say I have one. And honestly, as a retired guy with four grandchildren to buy things for, money can be tight at times. 😂 So almost $2000 for a Walther PDP steel frame is a little steep when I could get the Rival S for half that. But I still would love to find someone with the steel frame PDP so I could try it out. Thanks for the response and good info! Just subbed to your channel and look forward to more cool gun stuff!

Those are the Floyd's Custom Shop Ports.

Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

@@peterdarlington4117 good point. Shoot something first, if you can, especially at this price point. And, you are correct, expectations are very high on a $2,200 gun. To each their own, but there are other options at this price point that are as nice or nicer to shoot, some for half the cost. It's a decent gun, but nothing special, just like the Q5 isn't, but even that is half the cost of the PDP. Glad you love yours.

@@triumph2013 thanks. We appreciate it. I am running the Steiner MPS with the Beretta Aim Point Acro plate. Beretta has the plates on their site.

You are an awesome shooter. You even rear it up with the Macro. Nice. The PDP 5" SF just isn't the one for me. Maybe it's a hand size thing. Not sure exactly, but I don't have the same issues with the Poly version. Looking forward to the new P320 X-Five. Should give the PDP SF a run for it's money, if it's priced right. Thanks for the comment and for putting out those ass kicking shorts.

I agree, there is no comparison, but for different reasons. One is now $650, with the same trigger and magwell, the other is $2,000, not as comfortable to shoot, and single purposed. At least it's heavy, but that is it's only positive upgrade from the poly. I still feel the Steel frame is overrated and greatly overpriced. For that money, unless you are a serious competitor, who needs a striker fired gun to get around hammer down starts, there are far better guns in the price range. It will be interesting to see how the new P320 SF X-Five compares, and the $1,000 Canik SF already gives the Walther SF a run for it's money without upgrades. Plus, the QF SF is cheap now, and other than magazine capacity, it's a solid striker fired option too. Actually, we have a friend who likes his Walther 5" SF more than his Alien. Lot's of good choices out there and different guns work for different people. Glad you like yours. Thanks for the comment.

It's great that there are so many good options out there. We haven't used the Trijicon HD, but if the new enclosed Romeo X Pro is anything like open emitter version, it'll be a great optic. Either option will direct mount to newer Sig slides and they, are not far off in price. May come down to window size. It's a great time to be in the market for a new optic. Thanks for stopping by.

Hi. Thanks for stopping by. Did you get the S&W metal competitor, or a different model? Cyelee makes other optics at similar price points that may work better for you, if you plan on co-witnessing your irons. Since you will need a plate for S&W, you may want to look into the Cyelee Shark as it has a lower deck height. We put a Holosun SCS PDP on our metal Competitor because it is direct mount and let usvuse the irons, but the window is really small. Let us know what you end up doing.

@The2AExperiment yes sir the competitor 2.0. 9mm. It's a great gun but I'm really not digging the sights. Like at all. I have the smaller shield plus and I'm pretty damn accurate with it. I put about 200 rnds through the competitor the other day and I loved the way it shot, just wasn't feeling the sights. The green dot was really hard to see at the indoor range. Sometimes it almost felt like guess work trying to evenly center that green dot on the all black back sight. With the shield plus, you line up those 3 white dots evenly and it's dead on. Every time. What do you recommend going with?

@@joshmartin7558 Congrats on the Competitor. It's a nice gun and we enjoy doing videos with it. After we ported it at Floyd's it became one of our favorites. As to what optic to go with, that's tough. You have to consider a few things: what are you using the gun for, do you want to be able to use your irons as back ups, how big of a window you want, what color dot you prefer, what features are important to you, and of course, how much you are willing to spend. The Cyelee Cobra X Pro is a great, do it all optic, and it is inexpensive, but you will not be able to use your irons as backups, because the rear deck height is too high. This will be true with most optics because the irons on the Competitor are low profile. If you are interested in Cyelee, they also make very large competition style optics and smaller Shield sized optics, at a great price. Again, It really depends on what you plan on using the firearm for. Since you do not like the sights on the Competitor, you can always swap out them out for something a little taller. Then you can use any optic you want and still have cowittness. Some people don't care about back up irons, but we do, so we went with the Holosun SCS MP2 on our Competitor because of the low deck height and direct mount. We can cowittness the irons with it, but It has a really small window and it only comes in green, so not really a fan. In the end, you really cannot go wrong with the Cyelee products as they are extremely well rounded, feature rich, durable, and light on the pocketbook. Especially if you are just getting into optics, as these cover all the bases. Holosun, also makes some good, reasonably priced optics, so for just getting into optics I would recommend either of the brands. If price is not an issue, and you want all the features and durability, you can go with the new Trijicon HD. The Competitor comes with plates that will accommodate most choices. Let us know what you decide to go with, and how you like it.

@@artifactdad thank you for the kind words. The takedown is easy, if done correctly. I believe we went over it in the review of the APX Gen 1 Combat, but we may have cut it. The problem with the takedown is, people don't realize you take it down with the slide forward. I have seen people locking the slide to the rear and then trying to take it down, like a Sig, M&P, or FN. Our Gen 1 APX is tighter than the Gen 2, but if you put a little pressure on the right hand side of the lever, it pushes out enough to turn down. Then pull the trigger and the slide pops right off. It's not my favorite takedown, but it's not bad. Thanks for stopping by and for subbing. We appreciate it.

@@edwardslivak1088 that's a great price. I actually just received my rebate in the mail. It took a while, but it showed up. Thanks for stopping by and commenting about the deal.

We really like it too, even with its sights/guide rod shortcomings. And at It's current price, it's a really great gun. Thanks for watching and commenting. We appreciate it.

@@effu9375 sounds like a winner. You wouldn't think it would be too hard to add the recoil bosses to the CNC program. Thanks for commenting.

Thanks for watching. It's hard to get a good bang for the buck nowadays, but Cyelee delivers with this optic. Thanks for the comment.

The PDP Pro SD does not dig into our hands at all. It's a different frame design. The steel frame has a different beaver tail. It's basically modified Q5 lower. The PDP Pro doesn't have a beaver tail at all. Thanks for stopping by.

@The2AExperiment I'm debating between the pdp match polymer, the m&p competitor and the h&k sfp9 match or. Tough choice 😁

@@TheBoldHairspring No, the Pro SD is a different lower all together. It has no beaver tail and is smoothly rounded. Not everyone appears to have this problem with the PDP 5" SF. It may be a hand size thing. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks for the excellent review! My very first Cyelee optic that I ever bought, the original CAT model (RMSc footprint, without the side-loading battery compartment) just randomly stopped working one day, after weeks of sitting on my nightstand gun (the battery lead had somehow become disconnected from the optic itself). I just emailed Cyelee, and they sent me a return label. I sent it back to them, and within a week I had a brand new one, no questions asked. It's been rock solid for the past year or so. I've purchased 6 other Cyelee pistol optics (all with side-loadig battery trays), including the CAT Pro, the CAT X Pro, 2 Wolf0s, the Wolf Pro, and the Bear, since then, and I've never had a problem with any of them...

@@jamesbrogan85 thank you for the detailed account of your experience with Cyelee optics, especially the warranty aspect. Cyelee told me they honor their warranty, but it's nice to hear from someone who actually went through the process. It's also good to know they furnish the shipping label. We really appreciate you giving this information to us and to the viewers. That's all the more reason to pick up one of these optics. Thanks again.

It's a great optic. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to review it.

Hell Yes! Thanks for stopping by! I would say, see you tomorrow, but I heard the low light shoot is canceled. Sucks.

Yes. The screws it comes with are for direct mounting to a Sig slide that has the Delta Point footprint.

@@The2AExperiment awesome thanks for the quick response 🙏🏿

Good call. My torque wrench isn't the best. It may be off. I'm glad to know yours went on without a hitch. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thanks for the info. I haven't heard much about Timney triggers in M&Ps. I imagine they are pretty awesome though as they feel great in ARs. I'll have to take a look at them. We appreciate it.

Glad you like the dot. It has held up well for us so far. Asvto the tool, It's actually a better tool than most, because it locks in place in the screw and you can use it in low light. Hopefully, more companies start using that style. The only reason I am not a fan at this point is, I only have one dot that uses that style, so if I don't have that tool with me, I cannot adjust the dot. Good thing is, you don't have to adjust them often. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Very funny. Thanks for watching. We try to mix in Shannon -A- Guns when we can. Lol.

@@The2AExperiment. This is Jeff from the range

@@JLeatherneck l was wondering if it was, because you call her that. I almost mentioned it in my reply. I will let her know you said hello. Thanks Jeff. See you soon.

We picked up the Harrington comp, but we haven't tried it yet. I expect good things as the gun is already pretty bad ass. Thanks for commenting.

Lol. It really is better to buy a firearm in person. The one I held in the store was perfect, and the one I ordered was goofy, which we discussed in the video. We had it ported, and did a video about it. We love it and it's now one of our favorite guns. Thanks for stopping by and commenting and congrats on your new competitor.

@@The2AExperiment thank you!

That's actually the perfect way to describe it "shockingly good". We have considered the Apex and DPM springs, but it is so good as it is we have decided to leave it alone, for now. I was eyeing up the brass magwell too, but again, it is so good I don't know if I want to mess with it. We'll see if I can hold off on putting more upgrades on it. Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience with us.

Thanks foe watching. The silver firearm is the Sig USA Custom Works P226 X-Five. It is probably my favorite pistol I own. Everyone who we let shoot it falls in love instantly. I use it as a reference because it was also $2,000, but it is smooth and refined and a joy to shoot. If you get a chance to shoot one you'll see what I mean. Thanks for the comment.

No sir, thank you for replying and taking the time to post great content!

Congrats. The ports are tge real deal, and they love hot ammo. Shooting it never gets old. Thanks for watching and commenting. Enjoy your Floyd's custom cannon.

I appreciate the sub and the honesty. Hopefully; one of our other videos is more enjoyable for you. Maybe the Romeo X or the Floyd's Porting video. Either way, thanks.

Hey, have you tried the PDP F series? I also have shorter fingers and it’s extremely comfortable!

@@SalvadorFrieri no, we haven't tried the F, but we have the PDP Pro SD 5.1" and we really like it. No trigger freeze at all and the poly PDPs are very comfortable. I have heard the F series are good to go too. Thanks for the suggestion.

I just got the axg for a first gun. I think I am getting this optic and follow in your footsteps.

The red dots allow target focus and faster target acquisition for me, but you really can't go wrong with a good set of irons. Tried and true.

Thanks for the comment. We only do local shoots, so comfort and feel mean a lot to us. I have other 42 oz guns that I like more than the Walther, and I would personally take a Shadow 2 over the Walther any day of the week, and it's half the price. I expect a nice feeling and great shooting gun for $2,000, but that's my personal opinion. The gun just doesn't do it for us. And again, we are not serious competition shooters, so I am fine shooting my Legion with a Gray Guns trigger, if I want a heavy, striker fired gun for the local stuff, and it's only $900. I can fully understand why a serious competition shooter, that doesn't want to deal with hammer down starts, or no optic cut, would find value in the Walther. It's a decent gun, but not what we expected at the price point. Kind of disappointing really, for what we use it for, which is absolutely nothing at the moment. Trying to sell it, but no takers. We have also shot the Canik SF and it wasn't much different than the Walther, but half the cost. Not quite as nice with regard to return to zero, but not a $1,000 worse either, and I greatly preferred the feel in the hand. But that's where subjectivity comes in. Either way, we wanted to, and tried to like it, and dumped thousands of rounds through it in the process, but it just isn't the gun for us. We appreciate the input, and your perspective. I am sure there will be a gun we agree upon at some point. Thanks again.

@@The2AExperiment They'll make you shoot a Shadow 2 DA for the first shot. I know of enough people who find that so objectionable that they swear they are faster and more accurate if they simply swipe the hammer back with the supporting hand during the draw. A striker gun lets you shoot single action only all the way. Glock doesn't make a steel frame. CANIK and the other clone vendors do, but people gravitate towards an original. There is always the Alien, but that's $5000~6000. -- So... people pay $1899 for a steel frame Walther if they have the money. Some of those who don't spend $200 on ILLEGAL tungsten rods and pins for their Glocks just to get an extra ounce or two. -- An interesting experiment you guys can do is to pit a PDP Steel against a PDP Polymer Match with 12 ounce of weight clamped onto the frame rail. I bet you the latter will shoot as well if not better given the identical mass and the fact that it has them all on the nose.

@@dwightlooi when we did our actual full review of the PDP SF we brought up dumping the money into the Poly Match to see how it would compare. The poly PDP just fits us better. We have been messing around with our PDP Pro SD 5.1" and it's been pretty surprising how much the spring weight changes that gun. Brass backstrap and magwell, and I could see it sitting down real nice. Asvtovthe whole DA start, that's for the birds. When you load and make ready the hammer is cocked, so why make you drop it? Stupid. I know that's one of the reasons people are moving to striker fired competition pistols, and it makes sense. Anyway, got to get to bed. Nice speaking with you. Have a good one.

@@The2AExperiment The sad thing is that NONE of these guns, or anything introduced in the last two decades, are available new in the Democratic People's Republic of California to ordinary citizens. The only way you can get one is to buy it used from a cop, new resident to CA or somebody who inherited in from out of state. A used "off roster" 4" PDP poly is about $1600. I haven't seen a steel on Calguns, but if trends hold we can expect to pay about $4000~5000 for one.

@@dwightlooi that really stinks. I am glad I live in a free state. Cali is beautiful though, been there many times when I was younger. Sad that it has changed so much. Colorado is another state that is onbthe same path as Cali. from freedom to tyranny. People need to wake up. Thanks for Sharing.