How close is Moza R9 to Simucube 2
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2022
- Can the 470$ Moza R9 Direct Drive Wheel compare with the 1500$ Simucube 2 Base !
Driving that little monster for over 4 weeks now I can have clear opinion for my personal use in iRacing , ACC, Automobilista 2 and other simulators !
Gear I use:
Simucube 2 Pro Wheel
Simagic SQ Shifter
SG Racing Pro SQ shifter sg-racing.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3W...
Imsim Talento Pedals
Simagic P2000
Heusinkweld Pro
Moza R9 with GS Wheel -in test
SimLab 4 monitors stand
Rosso Sim Racing Curved Audi R8 GT3 wheel
SimRacingBay GT3 wheel SSRG Porsche Cup wheel Plate
Porsche Cup Wheel Fanatec
Fanatec McLaren V2
Bently Steering wheel from SSRG
GoPro Hero 10 Black
Black Magic 4k cinema camera
Dual PC system Specs
AZZA Ragnarok 801 Dual PC Case
Intel i9 10900k
Nvidia RTX 3090
Intel i9 9900k
Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000
iiyama 32inch1440p 144hz 1mls triple screen Setup
Dell 24 inch Pro on top
Simagic SQ Shifter
Fanatec H-Brake
Hsimracing Cooling system
Mirco Seat RS1
Valve Index VR
Samson G Track Pro - Hry
The FFB Settings I use
Road sensitivity to 9
Game FFB intensity 100%
Maximum Speed of Steering 30%
Mechanical Back to center 0%
Mechanical Damping 0%
Steering wheel inertia ratio 1100
Natural Inertia 150%
Mechanical friction 10%
Speed depended damping 0%
Is this for Iracing or ACC or both?
Love you for sharing this!!!
Any changes on the ffb equaliser ?
Great!
Hello thank you,it's your settings for your simucube 2 Please ? And it's for iracing ?
Thank you
That calm voice, that authoritative manner, that straightforward script, those glorious visuals. I love this channel.
On the customer experience thing: I have found Moza to be extremely responsive. When I told them it wasn't working properly in RaceRoom, they put out a fix a few days later. When I tol them I was having an issue with getting the wheel centred properly, they created a tutorial document and asked me to review it before publishing. Exemplary customer experience.
@@justpostedagain My experience as well! I actually suggested that they add the LED buttons to the round wheel as an option and they said they loved the idea and would be having that option available in a few months! Really amazing how much they listen to their customer's feedback and actually implement our suggestions. I've never seen that before in any company.
Wow 😮 , thank you for the kind words and support man ❤️
And thank you for sharing your experience with the Moza Costumer services !
Sounds like those guys are here to stay 💪 so glad to hear that 🍻
I also love how he pronounces "soap" :D "We can wash it with soup" cast a smile to my face.
@@chepilevski Sorry to say that, but to be brutally honest, your manner of speaking makes me completely unable to finish watching any of your videos. Not trying to be mean but I just have to say it when someone praises something that is big problem of your channel.
I've watched quite a few reviews on Moza but I was still super excited to see you have done one. Really glad to hear how much you like it. I'd like to upgrade to it some day. Can't wait to for your next video!
That wheel base is something we where dreaming 5-6 years ago, having DD which doesn’t cost kidney and deliver fast and clean ffb and now we have this one which surprised me for sure!
Now I’m sure is all about software and Simucube ware the king and it sims like Moza brake the code too 😃
Wish you will have it soon 🤛
been using a simucube 2 pro now for over a year or so, its been a pleasure. We are at a stage now though where a direct drive cheap or expensive will deliver similar benefits, afterall they only have to deliver the game signal as fast as they can to your hands... the real advantages between the bases comes down to the software and power making mid corner forces much more immersive. as humans we are quite adept at adjusting to changes so i imagine going to an R9 from a simucube 2 pro would feel simply too weak at first but after a week or two of using it then it will be fine with no issues, switching back to a simucube 2 you will then find it too heavy but after a week suddenly its fine and you start understanding the benefits of more power again.
when it comes to software i still think simucube offers the edge in refinement, being able to play with static force reduction means we can turn up the power for more detail without the arm killing strength mid corner, i think this is an amazing overlooked feature that more manufacturers should implement. With that said moza do offer some unique features of their own and i think that's a big positive, they need features to stand out and something like the frequency adjuster is just that. Some of the simucube/granite staff on forums have mentioned that filters adding a delay is somewhat of a myth and does not happen, im inclined to agree honestly because these things are so fast only a robot would be able to tell the difference... Its like saying ''hey the simucube is better because it uses a 22bit resolution encoder and the moza is 16bit, fanatec is 16bit, simagic is 18bit etc....'' YES technically on paper the simucube simply has better hardware, they are renowned for that overbuilt quality, but the reality of the situation is it would take a very special human being to be able to detect that resolution difference, only robots in a factory can tell the difference, they are industrial motors afterall. Its always nice to know there was no expense spared though.
direct drives at this price now is excellent for everybody, it really is about time the belt wheels and cog wheels are put to bed, i think you really do get 80 percent of the DD experience with any of these lower end products, its still something of a nice surprise when you use a powerful motor though, the weight of the cars, the holding torque mid corner, the overall detail level gets a natural boost with more power but most would be very happy with an R9 i reckon. I think simagic are making the biggest splash in the market right now honestly, wheels dropping left and right from them, fast growing ecosystem, that is what should worry the likes of granite devices i think.
Very very well said buddy 🍻
I agree. DD bases are more about the software than hardware at the moment. I saw the same thing with the mige motor where simucube board made it feel amazing but I tried the VRS version with the same motor bit their software and it didn't feel as smooth too me and more grain
@@Simlife101 yep that's right it pretty much does come down to software... I think the only exceptions I would make are motors like the simagic m10 where the hardware has a direct impact on the feel with it being very notchy... in fact that is one of the reasons I personally wasn't a big fan of fanatec, I had a DD1 before simucube and I found it annoying because there was an underlying notchy feeling simply down to the hardware design so software adjustment does not eliminate it, I think the top end fanatec hardware is due an update already honestly, almost all motors are coming out these days completely smooth, in fact I hear the csl dd is even smoother than the podium line up but not used it myself.
Then there's fanatecs quick release which is pretty nasty, noisy, lots of play... but at least fanatec are on that mission to replace it, just taking wayyy too long.
@@chepilevski thanks sir, and thanks again for the content.
@@jinx20001 Barry said that the Moza R9 felt notchy and not smooth at all and he implied he would not be able to use it because of it. Why do you think his unit was so bad when it came to smoothness?
Don't you dare stop making these amazing videos! Thanks for your first thoughts on this Moza wheelbase and wheel. I hope they are a stayer in the Sim Racing Genre!
😁 have a wonderful day brother 🤛
Have I seen you in Rorys streams?
I have the R9 and was very surprised at how hot it got when the FFB was strong for a 1 hour race. Almost at the limit of "hot to touch". I asked Moza about this because I was concerned and their reply was:
"Hello, you don't have to worry about the problem you mentioned. We have temperature control components inside to ensure that users will not be hurt and the equipment will not be damaged. Its specific working principle is to limit the torque output when the temperature reaches the set value to achieve the effect of cooling, and when the temperature is back to be normal, the torque output will return to the normal level."
So it seems like it's not an issue. I've not noticed any detrimental effects from it like lack of FFB, all works fine. I've been very impressed.
That’s very valuable information buddy!
Thx for taking the time and providing it to us 🍻
Same story here. I was concerned at first with the heat of the base and contacted Moza and they said it is perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. I put a temp gun up to the case of the wheel base when I thought it was really hot and it was only about 105 F. In the RC world with brushless motors 160 F is a totally normal temp so I feel it is really not as hot as I think. Also I do have a small usb fan hanging from my middle monitor blowing directly down on top of the case which seems to help a lot.
@@Username_Invalid thx for the info buddy 🤛🍻
Mi dd pro no se calienta nada, pensaba que la moza no se calentaria. Tengo muchas ganas de probar la base moza r9❤
After a year of usage, I can say that it only gets hot when you add the artificial effects and/or crank up the frequencies while having high road effect and in-game gain above 70% and for the past 6 months it's been operating with cool temperatures or room temperature at most keeping in mind that I only have max on torque and game FFB.
Road sensitivity to 7-9 > sim dependent plus activity, racing or drifting.
Game FFB intensity 100%
Maximum Speed of Steering 30%-100% > sim dependent plus activity, racing or drifting. for the latter I use 150%-200%
Mechanical Back to center 0%
Mechanical Damping 0%
Steering wheel inertia ratio 2250 or GS wheel default value
Natural Inertia 100%-150%
Mechanical friction 0%-10%
Speed dependent damping 0%
EQ: either default value or I crank them up by 20%-50%.
This is a really well made video. I have no idea how i haven't seen this channel before! Well done!
Thx for the supportive post buddy 🍻
Thank you for this! I just got my R9 this week, I was using a G25 before. After only a few hours experience, to me most sims feel best with damping/smoothing turned right down, to get very fast and detailed response from the base - but it seems like most people are recommending much higher damping and slowed turning speeds. Your comments on this have really reassured me that I can trust what I'm feeling! Thanks for all the detailed and well thought out explanations, your comments are really valuable!
You must always first trust yourself and your senses brother!
I have tested many suggested settings out there and some even felt awful but if people enjoy them that’s absolutely fine!
We must always look what works better for us personally and not fall into a box 😁
I try to stay open minded and test everything I can in life just to make sure I have clear mind wen I do my own choices 😁
Happy racing brother 💨
the info u shared is so accurate to my experience as its my wheelbase for around 2 months, the stuff other youtube reviews said didnt match my experience at all. With that said today i had the big test on how it feels as in details of my car as i had an endurance race which i was the only person that didnt do a pitstop, the tyres got worn out badly and i felt what the car was doing so well and when i lose grip and all of that resulting me in a 24 second lead at the end of the race. I can highly recommend this wheelbase for the price it is.
Thank you for sharing your experience with this little monster man and well done on the strategic win ! Going with worn tires is really hard decision as driving on the edge of the available grip from worn tires require great self control and driving skills and without proper ffb will be impossible!
Look forward to next review.
Great review….I watch a lot of other sim racing you tubers, as we all do…but not a single one of them drives those cars like you do…you have the most believable videos of them all totally on the limit none can touch your videos👍 excellent stuff👏🏻
😮 thank you for the kind words and support brother 🍻
Great work as usual. Cheers!
I want to thank you for putting the time into creating such great content, and for this video in particular. After 3 years with a G29, I recently decided to invest in some "proper" sim gear, and this video helped me settle on the R9 and, due to delays with the ES wheel, the GS wheel. I've had them three weeks and am very happy. I am looking forward to learning more and more how to fine tune settings to get the best result for a given car in a given game, but I've already found some combinations and settings that really work. And I think there's just enough strength in the base to deliver a truly engaging and immersive experience up until control is truly lost, where a lack of additional torque may be an advantage. I've watched s number of your videos now, and am convinced of your sincerity, your passion for your sim racing is obvious. Thanks for sharing it with us.
For me this base was absolutely enough for 2 months in very hard Championship!
I never felt short of FFB strength or quality!
Definitely my favorite base for the money 💪
Was looking to the answer to this comparison..glad you posted!
Hope it helped buddy 🍻
Ive read almost all the comments, serching for overheating issue, and i must say that there is something equally good as your rewiews, and that is the fact that you really respomd to comments...! You are doing a briliant work!❤️👌🥳💪
Thx buddy 😃
I happy to read so many happy responses for the base and the costumer services as well 💪
In my opinion, comment section is way more important the the videos wen we are looking for products reliability !
Your videos are really amazing. Great voice in combination with the whole presentation.
Thanks for the support Mark 🤗
You're going to love the fsr wheel.
I love you man!
you're so honest and you love what you do. You're great ! keep doing thess videos.
Much love brother 🤗
Thank you for the beautiful words and support!🍻
Wish you great week mate !
Thanks for convincing me to make the jump and get this wheel base. I am still on a belt driven Thrustmaster TX...and have been keeping my eye on this R9.
Love how you compared it to the Simcube. Love your videos. Glad I subscribed...can see myself taking a lot of your advice.
Much love sim brother 🍻
Great review! Will give this a closer look, thanks so much for sharing!! Your rig is amazing!!!!!!!w
Thx buddy 🍻
Happy if helped 🤛
I have never seen somebody go THAT hard on sim rig, its lovely
😁 thx buddy
Have a wonderful weekend mate 🍻
Great review and your cockpit looks super nice, like you are in a car. I just bought the R9 with the CRP pedals. I'm going to save your settings below as a test. I've been using the Logitech G923 for almost 2 years now, and I think the feedback just doesn't give me what I need to feel the car when racing, so I've upgraded. Thank you for your review!
I just purchased a Moza R9, CRP Pedals, CS Wheel and a GS Wheel. I will keep the CS wheel until the RS v2 is released, than I will preorder that wheel, once it arrives sell it and keep the rs v2. I have a Fanatec CSL DD 8NM, GT3 v2 wheel and a standard GT wheel, with the CSL load cell pedal. I'm going to be interested in see the similarities and differences of both ecosystems. I feel this 8-10Nm range is the real sweet spot, I'm building these two sim rigs for me and my son to enjoy together. Really enjoy your videos - your content is just awesome, and is what I will be striving to achieve this winter season myself.
Congratulations on the fantastic video!
Regarding the base heating, I had this problem in iracing until I disabled the "linear mode" option in the game. When I deactivated this option (which was supposed to be on when you have a DD), my base stopped clipping and never reached the temperatures it was reaching before.
Thanks for the video and keep racing!
Wow thx Jay , I will test that right now😃
@@chepilevski It will change the feeling of the steering wheel a little bit. But I believe it will also give more lifetime to the base
everytime i watch your videos on a stressed day feel so calm. and Moza have been on my radar for sometime, but i am also awaiting for the Thrustmaster DD.
for now i have Fanatec DD2, it have done the job well for 2 years. and broke my wrist once, and almost took my thumb off. but lesson learned xD
you are doing a great job :D
So glad to read your positive comment buddy 🍻
Wish you wonderful evening mate 🤛
@Race Beyond Matter thank you
and you too mate 👊
Thank you very much for your review, I am in the process of buying my first DD wheelbase and had my eye on the R9 with the GS wheel for a few weeks now. I was always worried it might not have enough power to be fun in the long run...but I think I will give it a go now :).
It depends what you have in mind for power buddy!
Coming from lower end wheels except the V2.5 which delivers high enough torque, that wheel will feel like it loads a lot ! I still getting tired after 2-3 hours driving even if I have lots of training the last 5 years from big motors!
@@chepilevski I'm coming from a G29 so I'm sure it will be sufficient short term :). And if I ever feel too strong for it I can always just stop working out my shoulders. Would be a welcome excuse to skip a day or two :D. Thanks for your reply and keep up the good work!
@@vihta545 well , coming from G29 is completely different world which you really have to experience 😃
@@chepilevski Looking forward to it, thanks a lot for being part of guiding me (and I am sure many others) towards that experience.
I am proud to say I am a owner of the Moza R9, the GS wheel and the SR-P Pedals. Coming from a thrusmaster TMX pro it is night and day. It took a little time to get use to it but I feel in love 🥰 with Moza. I find myself finding more time on track ( not saying you will get faster). For me I don't regret getting it. If you have any problems with your unit Moza will take of it for you as I've seen they do for others. As for getting hot, not to me , it gets warm never hot to where you can't touch it .
Great content as always my man this could be your back up unit. Again I'm in love with Moza, call me a fan boy. Be blessed folks 🙏🏽 ✨️
Thank you for sharing your experience Doneil
It brings great value for future owners and I’m happy to hear costumer services are great 😃
Big hug brother 🍻
Because I’m Bulgarian, we are suspicious by nature 😂❤ Couldn’t say it any better! I’m really thankful for your reviews, subscriber for life! 🇧🇬🔝
😁 much love brother 🍻
Thanks for this information, us budget racers need all the information we can get, from trusted sources like you.
Hope it helped Larry and I’ve see many positive comments from other users who have that for longer then me and all looks really happy with the Moza costumer services and no one reported overhung issue which gives me even more confidence in that product 😃
@@chepilevski Thanks ! Moza is announcing some new equipment on 8/30 that's supposed to be aimed at affordability. Hoping for good news.
@@ibbobud let’s see , I’m excited to see what they have in mind 😃
Thanks for this great video! The R9 is my first DD, I've had a G29 for 8 years, and this blew me away! I struggled at first getting the correct feedback settings, but once dialed in, it was magic. I'm setting up a profile with your settings as well to see how it compares. 💪
It is day and night difference indeed and I know exactly how you feel about it 😃
That first DD experience is so brutal and beautiful 🤩
I've never experienced any overheating at all. The cube is cool as can be. Never been happier with a sim product. Moza also has the best customer service I've ever had with any company. I had an issue and they got back to me the same day or the next day, every time. They really bent over backwards to help me. You can tell that they really care about their customers and are making every effort to make us happy. Incredibly impressed with them thus far.
Wow, those are great news Ben 😃
Thank you for sharing your experience with the product and company man ! That will be helpful for everyone out there who is looking for his next update ❤️
I've never experienced overheating with the simucube 2 pro but I have experienced it getting extremely hot to the touch, especially on a hot day or in a very warm room, often it starts off getting warm at the rear and the heat then spreads up through the body after a couple of 45 min races. No effect on the useability though so clearly not "over"heating.
Going through the granite device forums the simucube engineers have often said it will get hot, it has a label on it warning of that and that if you can't touch it for more than 3 seconds it's at that point it's probably too hot but not before.
great video! i have the csl dd with the boost kit and it works good enough for me. Maybe you should try it and make a video on it.
I never knew a fellow Bulgarian can be as passionate about SimRacing as you are , wow . Was thinking about getting the R9 as well , shame I don’t know anyone here in Plovdiv that has anything better than a G920 for me to try out , but when you can compare it to a Simucube that is really reassuring!
Hey zdr Jorka 😃
You must find our Bulgarian community called BULERS and join us !
There many people with DD bases and there can be someone near you 😃
Find me on Facebook or Instagram to share Discord link so you can join 🤛
Pozdravi 🍺
@@chepilevski hey , already there :) found the community due to one of your race videos with bullers :)
@@georgfranko yeeeeeee 💪💪💪
I had the same doubt when buying my first DD and settled on a VRS Direct Pro, right in the middle of those 2. I am quite happy with it too.
VRS is absolutely great DD 💪
@@chepilevski and as soon as I learned how to read the FFB I got so much faster and safer driver. Totally worth!
@@AdsTrapatony it is different word indeed!
I measured mine after strong sessions, it goes up to just above 40c. It is hot, but it is to be expected when you see how compact this base is. And absolutely no issue, loss of strength or anything
Thank you for the detailed report buddy 🤛😃
ive had my r9 for about 6 months. its a great choice for most I think. Pair it with a light drift wheel and even more comes out
What a great video I have the r9 and GS rim what a great combo I absolutely love acc and my god this coming from a t300 the difference is night and day I do find my arms getting tired in long races but I'm used to t300 power base gets slightly warm nothing alarming for me I'm going to give your settings a go soon just to clarify you have all in game settings on default great video and more products on the horizon including a open wheel rim with LCD panel display built in it looks stunning
Thank you for getting the time and report your experience with this combo brother, it will be in great service for the community 🤛
In ACC I have the road effects down to Zero and Gain 100%
Those road effects really kill every DD wheel feeling 🙈
@@chepilevski thank you mate wow 100% gain in acc as well have you tried playing with the ffb equaliser in moza pit house as well yet keep up the great videos great work 😄
I love your Reviews
Thx buddy 🍻 have a great evening mate 🤛
great video, ive had my R9 and GS up and running for about three weeks now. Its my first DD so I wasn't really sure what to expect. Ive averaged 0.5-1.0 seconds decrease in lap times. So for me its worth it. The only I am not so sure about is setting it up correctly to get the best feel that I want and need. Every time I say to myself that I will dedicate time to this, I just end up racing.....😂
Thx for taking the time to report Steve!
I know that feeling by the way of trying to do something and end up doing something else 🤣
@@chepilevski I noticed after writing that you have some settings displayed. I will try these. 💪😎🏁 Thank you.
Excellent comparison!
Thx buddy 🍻
I bought a Moza R9 because of the price and the good reviews. Moza customer support told me the encoder is a 15 bit hardware limited encoder, like in the R5. I wonder if the DD wheelbases with higher resolution would feel better?
Moza are doing what Thrustmaster and Logitech should have done 2 years ago.
They missed the train indeed 🙈
Moza power
Sounds like you know a lot about DD configurations for best details. Would be great if you could make a tutorial about how to configure your wheel’s feedback and what each setting means and does to help you with feeling the car and road
Wow thank you for the compliment but I won’t say I know a lot but just know what I prefer for myself buddy!
It is great idea to discuss that in video and see what everyone things about this topic 😃
Have a great evening mate 🍻
@@chepilevski please do this!
I would love to know how to get the most out of my CSL DD to make me feel more and go faster!
@@chepilevski Yes do it! You present this so much better than anyone atm!
I have had my R9 and GS wheel since April and not had any issues or over heating problems,
I love my R9 and i don't think i need anything any stronger it dose the job just nice
Thank you for the report Gary !
I’m very glad to hear those results from your experience particularly having that combo for some time 💪
It sounds like this will be best bay of the year !
Me too. After few months of abusing my R9+GS wheel in iRacing, pushing hard my favourite Dallara LMP2, zero issues. Love this base and wheel. No regrets coming from Fanatec CSW V2.5.
Can you share your settings? Thank you
Top Simracing channel🔥
2:38 that correction was insaneeee
Thanks for the amazing review!
I planing to have it,but I'm confused witch wheel to choose,I mostly racing in ACC GT3 (vr).
Поздрави:)
You definitely don’t need the one with the screen and the RS v 2 is too big for GT3 in my opinion!
Pozdravi Vanka 🍺
I got a R12 and R5 and absolutely love them both the R12 is phenomenal
Would you say the R5 is enough FFB with the heavier wheels like the Moza CS? And does it overheat?
This looks like a pretty good wheel, probably the best in its range. It would be interesting to hear what your thoughts are when you go back to your simicube and how it feels. I personally like to have between 9 to 11 Nm of force as a nice range.
9 to 11 are the torques I prefer for 20-30 minutes races and I’m sure wen I switch back I would enjoy those a lot buddy 😃
Wen I switch track I usually go to 15-16nm in the first practice!
@@chepilevski you keep auto tune In Iracing and lower the base power?
Please try the Cammus wheel base, I really want to know your opinion about them :).
Thank you for the review really enjoied it :D
They contact me ones about it but never contact me back again 🤔 I hope I will have the chance to test that as well as it looks like very interesting base !
This is super surprising now I am torned. I have been saving money for a couple years so that I can afford a dd wheel and was set to get a simucube 2 pro. But after seeing this video I am so torned, while simucube is probably still slightly better compared to moza's r21 or r16, moza's wheels are so beautiful and much more affordable compared to simucube's offerings. Wow this video has given me a lot to think about, Thank you so much for the video. I've been waiting since I saw the r9 on your rig. Please keep doing what your doing, you are the best!
EDIT: I got a Simucube 2 Pro and I love it 😁
Honestly, I don’t understand how those guys manage to deliver that FFB 🤔
I always suggest SC2 if can be afforded but with those prices here and that clean feedback those are crazy value!
They offer affiliate link but I’m figuring for discount code and if I can achieve that for the community this will be absolutely awesome choice 😃
I think I’ll wait on…I was blown away with my tspc 2 years ago…don’t think I’m ready for this level of immersion yet!😉😂
@@chepilevski Again, thank you so much for what yo do for the community and I can't wait for the next video!
Where do you live that Moza is so much more affordable than SC2? I would pay 1100 € for the R16 and 1225 € for the stronger SC2 Sport made in the EU. The GS steering wheel is nice in price, but similar options are available from Turn Racing with button box that I also personally prefer. The VRS DFP with 20 Nm is certainly more affordable from the base (940€ incl. shipping), but overall similar if adding a QR and wheel to it. The R9 might be enough for you, but I'm used to 15+ Nm because I like a bit of workout as well while sim-racing and vintage cars also need more than 9 Nm to get their full dynamics.
@@Leynad778 your comment seems like your just projecting your own thoughts instead of responding to my comment. The actual price of the sc2 and moza r21 are similar, but that isn’t what I’m referring to when I talk about affordability. Moza’s wireless steering wheels are much cheaper than any wireless simucube offering on the market. Saying that the moza gs is similar to the turnracing wheels is a bit of stretch since both have a very different set of features that appeal to different sim racers who prioritize different things. If your priorities and personal subjective beliefs align more with simucube than be happy with your simucube. I’m looking at different options because I prefer steering wheels that don’t come in pieces and don’t require a wire, so I’m interested in moza’s wheels. furthermore I’m in US so paying for shipping in the EU is absolutely ridiculous. You be happy with your stuff dude
You can get the quick release from MOZA, basically change to any wheel rim you want, you can connect it standalone using usb , the original wheel connects via Bluetooth and receives power from the base, it is possible to use different wheels using the quick release , i ordered one as soon as i found a cheaper DD better than what the market can offer today , the R9 is the answer 👍
That is a option definitely and I will this to take one and test the different wheels I have around and see how they perform!
I’m really amazed with that little beast as well for the price 💪
I just got my R9 recently, I haven't been able to use it that much yet, but it feels good, stepping up from a Logitech G290. However, it makes noise when powered on, like it has dirty power delivery or some kind of coil whine (it's not the Bluetooth clicking noise) It seems fine other than that, probably just cheap electrical components. In a hour long session, mine doesn't seem to get any warmer than room temperature, but I keep it around 40-50% strength.
Thx for the time you get to report your experience Devo 🤛
Hey, great review I'm new to sim racing (100 hours Racing, 60 on ACC). Now using an older 2nd hand fanatic set (CSL). Would you recommend this set (G9) for me, I will play Iracing/ACC and GT3 mainly. Thanks
I would love to see your review/opinion of Simagic Alpha Mini and comparison to Moza r9 and Simucube 2.
The Moza R9 is really one of my favorite bases for that price man ! I have it on my rig for 9 weeks and never felt short of power with the cars I drove !
The Simagic mini was awesome at the time I tested it but they have made many updates from that time and I don’t have it around to test it again!
Right now I’m testing the Simagic Alpha U which is 23nm and that thing is as smooth as my Simucube 2 pro and can even produce more torque without clipping in iRacing and I try to understand how they achieve that ! Next is the Camus 15nm which I will test to see what they have to offer for even less money!
I will need few weeks to create full opinion for each base and then try to compare them in separate video!
@@chepilevski Thank you!
Just got my r9v2 besides the tiny bit of a “catch” in the center and sometimes oscillating if you let go this wheel is unreal for racing and especially drifting! 9nm is plenty of power unless you want to feel what no power steering is 😂 coming from a logitech g920. Thank you MOZA 🙏
Oscillation is present in every direct drive if there is not applied tons of damping which is bad for the FFB but we must keep the wheel most of the time’s anyway!
The R9 is probably my favorite base for the money ever produced and as you’ve said , it was absolutely enough for any kind of sims in normal use and never felt short of power of the ffb to feel what the car is doing !
For competitive racing is absolute base and only you you want to have fun with high torques you will need more power then that 😃
You the man! Steliyan, could you please share with us your simucube profiler settings? Thank you
Thx buddy 🤛
My Simucube settings are actually very simple as I just go down on reconstruction filter to 3 and the friction/damping to 5
The rest is just the stock from true drive suggested settings 🤛
I have the R9 and GS wheel and I couldnt be happier, if you've never had a DD before, it's just awesome. Never had a problem with overheating, but I use 80% force. Great video, do you race RF2 ? If you do would you be willing to share settings? It's the one sim I cant quite get right, TIA.
Unfortunately I never had the time to spend with RF2 buddy and I have heard so many great things about it 🙈
Im convinced
Im looking to either buy a moza r9 v2 or a simagic alpha mini.. you did a review on both (absolutely amazing quality review videos btw) i drift primarily and i was curious on your opinion having used both? Durability, heat, which one better for drifting? What do you recomend?
I really like ur vids .
This 1 i watched a couple of time,s already 😅
Because im thinking of buying the r9 with the gs wheel.
But in ur vid ur talking about the clipping in iraceing.
Is that the same case in ACC?
I play mainly acc .
If so, should i than look for a base with more NM ??
Its hard with so many nice dd,s atm 😂😂.
Keep up the great work
Clipping is present in all sims of is used at max NM and that’s the case with all DD bases ! I found the R9 just fine at around 7-8 NM and at those settings the signal clips only over the curbs which is not problem at at all but if you want something more powerful you can wait for few more weeks as something interesting is coming at this price range! I can’t say more but will be good if you wait a bit and ones is out you can decide which one you want 🤛
I haven't had a chance to use more powerful bases. But since I have my Moza R9 I always said that its power is more than enough. Only at the Eau Rouge corner in Spa does it clip extremely short. Just a red flash. And I consider that I use the steering wheel quite heavy.
Thx for the time you take to share your experience with the R9 buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski Hi. A comment. I particularly use 25% damping and 45% mechanical friction. I think that with these values the consistency that a real steering wheel has if the front wheels of the car are in the air is simulated. Leaving it at 0 I think is an error.
@@arielcor7392 the FFB load friction ones the car start moving and as much the grip that much the the wheel goes hard !
For me the friction and damping only slow the load of the grip FFB !
I don’t compare that with real car as I just read the information from the wheel and that works the best for me !
For rally cars I even go to zero because I use very low strength of the base !
Of course that’s personal preference and I’m not telling you are wrong but what I personally prefer and you should use what you enjoy the most 🤛
@@chepilevski Totally agree. But only with 25% damping and 45% mechanical friction I did not notice the FFB slowing down. With higher values if it happens. And with those values I achieve more realism. And I have achieved a setup where I don't have any kind of oscillation of the steering wheel when I release it, and without losing definition in the FFB. I have also given the min damper and damper gain logical values in the controls.json file in ACC. Although the damper gain can be modified from the game menu. But the min damper does not. The min damper is the one that gives the hardness to the direction with the car completely stopped. In ACC it works spectacularly with the GS steering wheel for the Ferrari 488. A few days ago I also received the CS steering wheel for Rally or series cars.
Nice Review and awesome Cockpit
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤛
I was thinking about this base, I even got a quick answer from Moza when I asked then a question about it. I have Fanatec csw 2.5 and 3 wheels/rims. I really like what I have but Im curious about a DD base. I guess I could keep this stuff as a backup . The 2.5 is a solid base , great for a back up. Sounds like a plan lol
The 2.5 is absolutely brilliant base man 😃 I have it for very long time and I loved it !
@@chepilevski So let me ask you then, Is it a worthy upgrade for the 2.5 ? BTW I love your vids , as a sim racer. I appreciate your passion.
@@steve196134 it will be upgrade for sure but not like a jump from Logitech to DD
More details, faster response and few Nm will be felt for sure !
I'm hoping for a Simucube 3 this year 😎🧑🎄
@@designamk1160 Not all servo motors are equal and the feel of the motors between say a Midge and Lenze or a kollmorgen are a big difference and the same Simucube 1 setup with the same firmware. So yes Simucube could use a better motor in a Simucube 3 using the same software and it would be an upgrade and that's a fact, ask any OSW owner who has tried them.
@@designamk1160 If granite make some new software and upgrade the motor slightly they would release a Simucube 3 rather than just update a free firmware. As far as DD motors are concerned Simucube is pretty dumb. I'm sure a oled screen and the ability to connect a screen magnetically to the top of the motor while also working with developers to integrate it better in Sims/simcade games would be a good selling point for a V3
I’ve read somewhere they will have big announcement soon but is project in secret 🤔
I know exactly what you mean with those motors and the lenze was one of the smoothest I ever tested before!
Very interesting to see what’s coming next 😃
Thank you very much for this video, this has convinced me to give the Moza a try over the Fanatec. I never really wanted to get into the Fanatec eco system, but there was no real competition for the price until now. You are harcore racer and I appreciate the time it takes you to give a subjective review as you have done. Keep up the great work and thanks again.
Happy if helped and I don’t want to sound as Fanatec hater because I love some products from them but this here is superior from FFB point of view !
I tested the small DD and is still great but those are better and I’m sure is software problem for Fanatec and I don’t know how they can’t figure out that 🙈
Dont want to get into the fanatec ecosystem as well but I really want something which supports both pc and xbox so fanatec is the only way for me :/
I just got a simucube 2 pro and it’s heaven! Love it ❤️ Could you please share your simucube settings and the settings you use in acc for it?
I just take the suggested settings the True Drive Ofer and then change the Reconstruction filter to 3 and friction/damping to 5
Make sure to put road effects in game force feed back settings to zero as that kills the feeling of all DD wheels !
@@chepilevski good to know about that, thank you ❤️🙏🏼
😘👍 you're right it's time to jump in the rig.
Push push push brother 😁💪💨
Good stuff! Would you mind sharing your Pithouse iRacing settings? I would like to see and feel the difference.
road sensitivity to 9
Game FFB intensity 100%
Maximum Speed of Steering 30%
Mechanical Back to center 0%
Mechanical Damping 0%
Steering wheel inertia ratio 1100
Natural Inertia 150%
Mechanical friction 10%
Speed depended damping 0%
i go with simagic alpha mini and its really a big step coming from belt driven thrustmaster.
but actually im driving everyday now and i little bit regret not invsted in simucube to get the best of the best :D
Don’t regret that as the Alfa Mini is an awesome base and you don’t miss much !
@@chepilevski how this Moza compares to Alpha mini?
@@betofernandez5524 it is very close!
Quality looks the same and feels very similar! Moza for some reason is bit more alive over the curbs but in general they are very close !
I’m going to test the Simagic ultimate and I’m curious to see how it feels in comparison to the SC2 sport
@@chepilevski waitting for those reviews 💪
Yes, my base does overheat after about an hour or so of constant use. The detail doesn’t diminish but the weight about halves. If anyone has any ideas on how to keep it cool, that would be great. I’m still experimenting with the settings and will the pinned ones a try.
Reading all the comments I’m afraid my settings are really harsh for the wheel and creat that heat ! I will experiment with different settings as well to see if anything will change !
I ran 4 hours straight yesterday, my R9 was still cool to the touch.
@@theRooster722 What are your settings? I like to my wheel quite heavy but going to try some different settings. It’s a great base though. I came from a TS-XW and once I got that dialled in I was more than happy with it but once I felt the tyres actually skipping on the tarmac, I knew I was DD for life 😂 Really happy they aren’t over hyped!
@@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames I run it at 100 percent in the outhouse software, but on the iracing options I use 5NM , feedback on 7 . Heavy settings typically slow you down and make it tougher to catch a slide. I bought a DD for the detail and precision not torque.
@@chepilevski also tested your settings and made my unit warm to touch and also experienced ffb strength to fade after about 2 hours on acc reading that this is normal behaviour to self cool is a relief
do you have a video on setting up a Simucube? You mention friction, damping, and reconstruction filters. Very interested in learning more.
I usually keep the damping at zero and friction to 8%
For IRacing the reconstruction is between 1-3 depending on the track and the other sims is up to 5
I always start with the Suggested settings for iRacing from the True Drive !
It'd be interesting if you get your hands on a simagic alpha mini + FX wheel to compare. From everything I've read, alpha mini > moza r9/csl dd, while not much difference between the csl dd vs moza r9, is more or less who you ask. For my first DD wheel, I'm eyeing the alpha mini, but I prefer the GS wheel over simagic's their GT4 and FX wheels, so I'm torn.
I tested the Alfa Mini and I lived it ! I would say the Alfa mini and this one are very close from quality and performance and this one just feels little more alive over the curbs but that’s very insignificant difference!
In my opinion, the choice between R9 and Mini must be mostly just from esthetic point of view and which ecosystem you would prefer! I personally rate them equal!
@@chepilevski thanks for your feedback
@@chepilevskiHave you tried the Alphan Mini again more recently? Still think the R9 is equivalent to the Alpha Mini?
Nice test, try the R21 Think it's too much money to have everything shipped to my country it's 295 Euro see y later dudes
Great video as usual Mr. Legend!! But I have a question, how do you compare the Moza R9 to the Simagic alpha mini? And as usual I trust your personal experience so please share your opinion 😉
I feel they are very close and this here somehow feels more alive over the curbs!
Those two are better then the small DD from Fanatec in my opinion and I guess the choice will be more about which ecosystem you would want to join! I personally prefer bit more the Simagic wheels but that subjective! Bot have very similar quality !
Great video Steliyan. I went from a Logitech g29 to a Simucube Pro so have no experience of other wheel bases. However the Moza brand does intrigue me and having more competition is always a good thing. Could you share your Simucube Paddock settings please if possible?
Same G27 to t300 to SC Pro. I’ve used someone’s DD-1 Fanatec briefly and it seemed good. Good to see more choices out there. There has never really been the need to have highest end stuff to get good ffb/lap times but I appreciate my upgrades a lot.
The SC 2 will remain the best for a while but having all those choices and knowing many people can experience something very close to what we the SC2 users have is awesome news !
Basically I use the stock settings on my true drive and only turn down the reconstruction to 3 and friction and dumping to 5 !
It is nothing special and the base makes lots of noise but I enjoy it like that ! Sometimes I go reconstruction to 1 but I don’t really feel different anymore!
@@chepilevski Hey Syeliyan, its me again!!! Now what an absolute legend you are. I basically did what you said for the Simucube settings and leaving it full in iracing and downgrading the power in the software. The feeling of the weight transfer of the car and detail is absolutely phenomenal now. I can feel the car so much better where the limit of grip is etc. I did some lap time testing for the upcoming Imola and Road Atlanta for GT3s and my god, I thought it was just lower temps between sessions, but its not!! I'm actually faster using the simucube setup you suggested. I think its the confidence that now I have because I can feel the car so much better. Thank you, you are a legend!!!
@@PhilDiasPJD wow 🤩 I’m so glad to read that man 😃
I have pre-ordered the R9 in Germany on caseking (exclusive reseller)
, but since they had swindled with the delivery time and then lied to me further in support, I resigned from the purchase and also MOZA....
Then I bought the Simucube 2 pro with a cube controls wheel🎉
I didn’t regret it ❤
I never heard anyone regret Simucube purchase 😁
That’s the benchmark in Simracing gear 💪😃
@@chepilevski I come from a Thrustmaster TX Base 😅
Hi, ich wollte auch bei Caseking bestellen, da steht lieferbar ab 21.02.23. Wie war das bei dir, stand da ein anderes Datum?
@@ZappRogerTrautman hi 🙋🏻♂️ , datum war erst 1 woche entfernt bei Bestellung und hatte auch nachgefragt ob das so stimmt , leider war dem nicht so … ich dachte es liegt an Weihnachten also noch bis nach den Feiertagen gewartet und danach erst sagten sie bis Februar warten …
Muss aber nicht heißen das es immer so ist aber das war nun schon 3x bei mir so ähnlich,,, deswegen niemals wieder
@@N1w3s Danke für die schnelle Rückmeldung. Mal schauen, der 21.2. ist ja nicht mehr weit...die paar Tage warte ich noch ab🤞🏼
Great informative video , like aways !! (Vsichko nai dobro ! ) :) :P
Mersi bratle 🤛
Love your video!! I'm using Thrustmastter TX for few years, I wanna get in to DD world, and I'm looking for Simagic Mini / Moza R9 or fanatec dd, any suggestion or recommendation on those? Thank you😊
They all will be noticeable upgrade but next Monday is coming something interesting and will worth considering that too!
Just be patient for a week before take decision 🤛😉
@@chepilevski WOW, I appreciate your information; I will keep an eye on it!!
In English “suede” is pronounced like “swayed.” It comes from the French word for Sweden.
Always love your videos! Hope you don’t mind the English correction. You speak English so well, I thought you would want to know.
Oh, I actually appreciate that Jay , sometimes I’m thinking how you guys actually listen to my accent 🙈😄
As always thanks for the support brother 🍻
Have a wonderful evening mate 🤛
@@chepilevski
Absolutely no problem with your accent, you have a very calming voice.
Keep up the good work, we really appreciate it.
been using it for 3 months...had one sudden switch off on Road America...It just became ultraweak..it was about 2 seconds...I had 100%FFB and 10NM on iRacing (it was probably too much)...Also have the GS wheel...Had some UX problems...I had engine switch on the joystick...when I lost control I have accidentaly switch off engine :D...also the Pit limiter button have no cap...so I accidentaly pushed it few times when I was catching a slide...I really dont like the plastic part on the handles...I love the Alcantara but it wears off a lot...it was just a list of my complains...Generaly I am happy with it :D
And the QR is fantastic
Thanks for getting the time and report your experience Patrick 💪
It will be in great feedback for the community 🍻
Have a great evening mate 🤛
i just got the current V2 versions of the R9 base and the GS wheel some days ago and i am simply loving the experience.
if there is just one downside its that the shifter paddles on the wheel are a bit too loud, but one gets used to it tbh (putting in the small rubber thingies Moza put in the box to make it quieter is not an option for me because this takes away from the tactile feel).
tbh, if you are right now in the market for a new wheelbase and wheel coming from a beltdriven one, then i dont see a strong enough reason not to go with Moza.
6:50 - You raise a very interesting point about the heat generated by the respective wheel bases. If the MOZA is actually getting hot to the touch then the motor they've used in it is possibly getting up against the limit of the force it can generate without active cooling. The Simucube 2 Pro on the other hand has this massive yellow sticker warning you about, amongst other things, a hot surface, yet it never gets even slightly warm even after long sessions.
I've read somewhere, so this may not be all that true, that the motors used in the Simucube 2 range are so over specified that with active cooling, and a suitable power source, they could easily achieve 60 to 70 Nm of holding torque continuously. Now I don't know if that is true, but given that my SC 2 Pro never gets warm I find that within the realms of believability.
A servo motor will do what a servo motor is told to do, and it's through software and firmware that this is achieved. As the details in the FFB come primarily come from the SW/FW controlling the motor and the power comes from the motor itself, so it's no surprise that the MOZA is delivering such good FFB.
I'm sure the engineers at MOZA have taken everything into account, but electrical devices that get hot worry me in terms of longevity.
Great content as always.
Those are some really good points and I will definitely rise that question to the Moza team ! What you have said makes sense even if we are not sure ! Many people state there bases are not getting hot but they use low torques and I’m only trying to take the maximum of it !
Will definitely do further research and hope Moza will take this in court and fix it if that is issue !
Thanks for taking the time to discuss the topic brother 🤛
Those are some really good points and I will definitely rise that question to the Moza team ! What you have said makes sense even if we are not sure ! Many people state there bases are not getting hot but they use low torques and I’m only trying to take the maximum of it !
Will definitely do further research and hope Moza will take this in court and fix it if that is issue !
Thanks for taking the time to discuss the topic brother 🤛
I’ve gad my R9 for a couple of months now. Running it at max ffb on Dirt Rally 2.0 for a couple of hours it only just gets slighly warm.
Pretty sure the Nm could be increased at the slight expense of added heat
Im more in the Drifting community and i love the R9 for the price its the best you can get atm and i cant wait for the future
I agree with you 🤛
I wonder if this overheating issue is limited to some units or just when using it at 100%; because I've heard quite a few people talk about it now, yet I've never experienced it myself. I use my wheelbase between 60-80% and even during this heat wave in Europe, when my top floor room temperature got around 34-36c, I never felt the base getting warm.
I’m curious as well and will start testing different settings to understand what’s going on !
Thank for the time you take to let as know your experience with this cutie 🤛
Do you have good settings for the CSL DD? In ACC. And even further more. In the Aston.
Nice review, I wanted to ask what is your opinion about the Fanatec GT DD Pro base, in comparison to the two bases you mentioned in the video, and if you have some settings to recommend to get that grip loss feeling you described, on the GT DD Pro wheelbase.
I am not really exited with the DD but that doesn’t mean they are bad wheels buddy!
You have to play with the interpolation filter mostly to achieve those results and I would suggest to to test small numbers and see at which point you will feel it more alive without becoming too harsh and noice 🍻
@@chepilevski Thank you, I will try as soon as I get the chance!
@@thanasisprofilis5169 Also try in game a higher gain what Fanatec recommends. And adjust clipping per car if your game allows. Use low NDP and low Interpolation. Friction to 0 until they fix it with firmware update. I had a Csl DD and must say the R9 is just better. More detail and generally a feeling of what the car is doing. On the CSL DD especially the rears are basically non existent.
hi Steliyan great review, a tutorial for dd1 for acc setups? you will do it?
I don’t have DD right now around but can join my friend and test and see what can I do brother 🤛
@@chepilevski OK, I hope you will be able to give us some to best set the dd1 to have the best experience.
Passa suas configurações, no jogo acc e no volante Moza, estou com o meu a 4 meses, simplesmente espetacular
Hello, awesome video like always, I have a little question, is it bad if my heel don't touch de baseplate when I'm braking hard ? it make the breaking less precise no ? same for the throttle sometimes what do you recommend ? thank you
Thx buddy 🤛
Actually that’s how we brake with hard brake pedal,I always detach the heal on max input and then touch down on trial braking!
Thank you for settling my inner debate between the Moza R9 and Fanatec CSL DD. I was nervous about adopting to the Moza ecosystem, but their software and support seems unmatched compared to Fanatec.
As soon as I found out you could use any USB rim with the wheelbase with one of their quick connects, that heavily weighed my opinion to the Moza side, but your review definitely sent me over the edge.
Now I just need to build a new computer and order the R9.
I personally rate this one above the CSL DD from FFB quality buddy!
That friend I had on the video use the CSL DD as well and he was genuinely impressed with the R9 experience 😁
I’m happy also to read on the comment section so many positive feedback from user about the Costumer services which is something very important too 😃
I have been dreaming of putting myself into debt for a Simucube. This might have saved me a ton of cash. lol. I’m coming from an older G29. I’m sure the Moza will still blow my mind.
What would be your opinion on the Moza R9 vs the Simagic Alpha Mini? I have been leaning towards the Moza R9 for a while but I really like how Simagic offers a 300mm wheel with their GTS so it's a tough choice.
From ffb experience they are very close and my opinion is to choose which wheels you like the most from those companies and which offers better prices for your region!
Other then that , I love both of those bases and see no advantage or disadvantage between them!
@@chepilevski that is great to hear, thank you!
What force feedback settings do you use in iRacing with the r9 wheel and base? Anything different from the defaults? I'd really like to try replicating someone's settings who knows what they are doing and then figuring out what I like/dislike from there. Thank you so much for charing your Pithouse settings.
I shared the settings I personally prefer in the comments as Pinned post buddy! Would love to know how you will feel with them 😃
I've had the R9 for three weeks, it has never gotten warmer than room temperature. I run it at 100% strength in the pithouse software but only 5 NM in the iRacing settings.
Hmm thanks for reporting that Thomas ! I will check in those settings to see if will change!
Used mine for 2hrs straight and became hot as a radiator ...
@@Gabe_H i think its pretty normal for these motors to get hot in certain situations, i have a simucube 2 pro which yes is 25nm and not 9nm but this still applies, i have found it getting very hot on occasions, usually when its a very hot day and in a very warm room which mine typically is, but i have spoken to simucube engineers in forums on and off and they have always assured people that they are industrial motors designed to work almost 24 hours a day in robotics, they can get hot but they can handle it just fine, one of the chief technicians for the simucube said you should be able to touch the motor for more than a few seconds, if you cant then its probably too hot and yeh there are times after a long race when my base is hot hot to touch but not burning your skin hot. i had a fanatec DD1 before the simucube and that really never got hot at all but it is fan assisted, you would think that makes it more reliable but its often one of the first things to break is the fan so manufacturers usually just go passive now.
its worth noting simucube motors are reduced in power to suit sim racing and they are capable of outputting much more power than they are rated for. the simucube 2 ultimate is rated at 32nm for example but the guys over at granite have suggested its actually capable of up to 72nm. I cant speak on moza or any other manufacturer in that regard but its highly likely the motors are actually capable of more than they are limited to for the sake of longevity and reliability, there is no way that a moza R9 motor is on its limit at 9nm, it should be very happy at that level if you control the clipping with in game gain.
@@chepilevski Any luck with the heat issue ?
When I tried the moza r9 I felt immediately strange grainy feeling around the center. This was especially noticeable when passing from left to right turn.
That’s something I never felt in the base I have here Enrico and doesn’t sound right to me ! Have you contact Moza for that issue?
If I had that problem I couldn’t be happy at all with this base as that transition from left to right is so important to me ! You must definitely report this to Moza !
@@chepilevski i was just testing my friend’s base. Maybe is something software related because it was very present and easy to spot (especially as we were doing a side by side comparison with the CSL DD)
@@enricobononi8655 Adjustment 😉
I have a MOZA R9 and run similar settings , 90% torque limit in the MOZA software , I have run up to about 2hours 30 mins at once with no heat issue, yes it gets hot but zero problems due to heat, MOZA is making it hard for other companies to justify costing twice as much , I have also used Moza’s customer service and have always received a response with in about 12 hours. The only bad thing I can say is as a consumer I have place 4 separate orders with MOZA and they are very slow to get the items out, my CRP pedals took 19 days to ship , Same with my R21 base, so if you order MOZA you will be happy with the product but patience is important
Thx for the feedback buddy!
I use to believe comment section is much more important then the videos and your experience will help others 🍻
Awesome clip very informative. Would you in your own opinion be worth spending alot more for a vrs dd base or is the feedback that good that 20nm vs 9nm makes it not worth 2-3x the cost? Im coming now from a thrustmaster t300 base and I really dont like how little is being transfered to my hands via the wheel, all the big stuff is there but not the small much more important stuff. Sorry for a perhaps confusing question but you seem to know what you are talking about:) cheers and keep making awesome content
Honestly I have that on my rig for 6 weeks now and never felt short in power but as you asked me what will be my personal choice, I would definitely safe for bit longer and try to pick up something more powerful even if i will never use it ! That’s just philosophical thing as I know myself and I don’t want to question my choice ever 🙈
Other then that , most of the people I know use much less power on there Simucube bases then I use on the R9 😁
@@chepilevski thank you for the reply. what i kind of like with the moza stuff is it seems like a nice DD and the wheel seems awesome. i have been looking at the VRS dd but thats 900 just for the base and i need a wheel ontop of that so a big investment so i was curious if if your opinion the moza was enough to get all feedback needed. im not huge on having LOTS of power coming from a t300 i just want fiddelity =)
@@henrikbonnevier then you will be perfectly happy with it and it will make huge difference to your current base for sure 💪
I have gotten simucube 2 pro pretty hot a couple of times. Only happens at 100% feedback for 30 minute races and your hands are numb after too xD
That’s true, can get hot and I have no idea how you managed 30min race with those torques 😮
At max the sc2 is brutal 😄
Great, video!!! I’m sure you get this question a lot but after all of your time with the R9, would you recommend the R9 or the alpha mini? And why?… ps I’m coming from a Fanatec CSL Wheel Base.
Honestly there is no reason to prefer the R9 over the Mini !
My go will be all about which ecosystem offers more for personal like from wheels and prices !
I see Simagic are coming with creat formula wheel as well!
@@chepilevski That’s great to hear. I think my concern was that one wheel base was leagues ahead of the other. But if they both offer similar feel and performance, that makes the decision a little easier since I assume the 1 nm difference can’t really be felt that much. Thanks for the reply! Can’t wait for your next video!
so if im understanding correctly there's a temp chip (or something ) inside that regulates torque based on heat of the unit. so in theory if we figure out a cooling solution, would you be able to get more than 9nm of torque from the unit? that's the real question here i think .
Hmmm 🤔 I don’t know how the motor is rated and if is possible to deliver more then 9nm at all !
At least if we can stop it from putting down the torque will be good if do that !
I still haven’t noticed that but my session are around 40min with 10-15 pauses in between!
@@chepilevski so im thinking a bunch of little heat sinks stuck all over the moza lol and then blowing a fan at it lol