Patrick Ewing never won an NBA championship. Here's what left him empty-handed.
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- čas přidán 31. 10. 2020
- This one stings. A surface-level summary of 1990s NBA history is basically: “Michael Jordan won the championships he was around to win, and Hakeem Olajuwon got the other ones in the middle.” Part of the reason the series Untitled exists is to better explain that era. With details and context, we hope to show that those oversimplified truths hang on some complex set-ups, near misses, and fascinating stories. Patrick Ewing’s Knicks wrote several of those stories; perhaps the most heartbreaking.
Ewing spent almost all of his legendary career in New York, and almost all of that stint competing for a championship. But, yes, Jordan interfered, albeit not as decisively as the short version of the story would have you think. Those Bulls were underdogs at one point, and even after that, came an inch here or a second there from losing to Ewing and company. Those inches and seconds describe some of the most sickening moments in the history of Knicks fandom.
Sickening, too, were the fates of Ewing’s teams that didn’t have to (or get to) face Jordan: The ones that fell to the Pacers, the Heat, and of course Hakeem Olajuwon’s Rockets in the brutal 1994 Finals.
Patrick Ewing retired without a championship, but we hope this episode of Untitled will help you appreciate how excellent he was and how rivals, fate, and bad timing conspired to stop him. You can’t tell this ringless story in a simple sentence or two.
Directed and edited by Ryan Simmons
Motion graphics by Michael Das
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
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"Why did Patrick Ewing never win an NBA championship?"
*You:* MJ and Hakeem.
*Me, a Scholar:* The Knicks.
The Knicks were scary though with Ewing. Had it not been for MJ or Hakeem, the Knicks would've won at least 1 title in the 90s
Out of all the teams In the 90s not win New York Knicks Were the best team. They Came with 2" of Winning only Patrick had good knees
Patrick didn’t like to share the ball, became too much of an outside shooter and was a disappointment defensively for someone of his size and ability.
@@djtrankilo231 I mean they should have beat the Rockets
he didnt have HOF acrobat badge
Yall really are savage for making Seth do this one. He's a Knicks fan, hasn't he suffered enough? 😂
His own fault for being a Knicks fan.
@@Bormannator 😳😳😳
@@Bormannator i mean ur not wrong
Hey if they get Chris Paul he gonna be kinda happy
@@Bormannator atleast he’s not a bandwagon
“Patrick Ewing meant everything to the Knicks.” Well said, well said.
The John Starks game, the Charles Smith game, the bench clearing brawl and the 9 points in 8 seconds are all seared into the memories of all Knicks fans. That is the kind of crazy bounces of the ball it took to prevent what seemed like a certain championship for Ewing.
The game 7 starks game was heartbreaking. If starks even shot 30 percent the Knicks win. They were actually leading going into the 4th. He actually hurt the team b/c Riley had him keep shooting. He was 0 for 11 in the 4th quarter. He had a brilliant performance in game 6. That was starks. Very streaky . As one scouting report said about starks in his 1st full year w/ the Knicks as an undrafted cba player. " starks emerged as a tiger good defensively has a nice outside shot & can slash to the basket. Not talking all star here just a nice find " I often wonder & starks was my favorite player too & if he had hit that 3 in game 6 at the buzzer given his going from grocery clerk to all star that year & being the guy Ewing needed to finally win a title & bring that elusive title back to NYC they'd be making a movie about him. Someone undrafted that worked so hard & never gave up even being a standout on the Knicks & guarding mj in his prime as well as anyone else could plus that dunk the all star selection was amazing enough. Anyway that sorta was the problem w/ starks way to streaky from one game to the next to be a reliable long term 2nd option to Ewing. A lot of really bad back office descions like letting two young all star quality point guards go in rod Strickland & mark Jackson rookie of the year. Also the drafts after Ewing when they were a 20 a year team w/ not much talent to select from in 86 87 . Ewing also had zero stability for almost all his 20s. He had quite a few different coaches all of his 20s til Riley. Here in lies the biggest problem. Riley no doubt is a great hof coach. For someone so smart he really made the worst decision which the gm followed cause it was showtime 5 ring coach pat. He brought as much star quality to NYC as any big time player. Here was the biggest blunder that destroyed the Knicks chances to beat the mj bulls. Charles Smith. In no way will I trash him or bash him the way fans did after 93 game 5. A game the Knicks had to have for home court vs the bulls advantage this time & the Knicks were pretty unbeatable in the garden. 27-0 run at home.
Riley s problem was no way in the backcourt. He needed a shooting guard who was a perennial all star or a borderline hof or hof guy. Every top player had a hof or perennial all star at their side. Some had 2. So Riley sees this team & decides to make them almost completely defensive. I think he was thinking a bad boys in the east having faced them in the finals. Problem was the pistons also had serious scorers too. That's why they were the only team to beat Larry magic & mj. A feat no other team would ever accomplish again.
So he had Ewing Oakley & Xavier McDaniel as his ferocious scary defense back court & x man could score too. They also had a young Mason off the bench. Their backcourt was the leader of the team rookie of the year & great point guard in mark Jackson who wasn't even in his prime yet. Wilkins was the starting 2 guard. That's where the problem was. Gerald wasn't his big brother. He didn't really have an impact. Starks was the back up & probably should have stayed in that spot as 6th man. If he was hot keep him in & in bad moments pull him. I'm going by how Riley saw the design of his team. All defense but u need more than Ewing to score every night. So for some reason Riley fell in love w/ Smith. He did avg 19 ppg but this was on the clippers. At the time they had nobody. So 19ppg on a horrible team doesn't say a whole lot. Plus they didn't need another possible scorer in the backcourt. Xavier was a better scorer & better defender than Smith. Ewing was the scorer .
Riley doesn't re sign Xavier who was the difference in that 7 game series vs the bulls. Mj even said that was the 1st time he was actually worried. To finally win a title than lose it in an upset to the Knicks would have def been tough embarrassing & slightly tarnish that 3 peat if the bulls fought so hard for a title & to not repeat. Anyway the Smith trade did nothing but hurt the backcourt overall & actually further damages the backcourt. Jackson was perfect as the Knicks pg. So they got the aging past his prime doc rivers. Wasn't sorry to see Wilkins go as he didn't do anything to help Ewing. Starks again could be so brilliant or God awful. No in between. They really should have kept that 92 game 7 team together for another year.
In 93 they may have gotten farther to the ecf first time Ewing had gotten past the 2nd round. It's misleading as they didn't face the bulls in that 2nd round. They actually did worse in 93. After taking the first 2 games at home they got demolished in Chicago. The weakness of rileys deal was shown bright that Smith just couldn't get it done. Not even just the last play but a stronger scorer would have dunked that ball. As he got stuffed excruciatingly the 1st couple times all the bulls swarmed . Too bad he didn't dunk it at first chance or try to kick it back out. I have to wonder if he was fouled. Jordan ran skipping outta there as the Knicks not only couldn't win in Chicago but usually got destroyed. Some serious mental block there. That they noy only couldn't win it was a destruction. Even in 94 w/o mj they couldn't win in Chicago. The bulls were so lucky to pull that game out. The famous pippen quits & kucok nails it at the buzzer. The Knicks insanely came back 21 down starting the 4th. All on the back of Ewing. So all the plays down low were of course always gonna go to Ewing. So having another big man in there who couldn't defend was awful. If McDaniel at that spot & w/ homecourt .
@@nattyps3160 Actually the Knicks were NOT leading going into the fourth of the seventh game. The Knicks only had brief leads that game, even if Houston was in control most of the way. But I do really think his would be game winning three point shot goes in at the end of Game #6, had if Hakeem not gotten his mere fingertips on it, and blocked the shot too.
@freakyfornash I am only going by memory of that game 7 as I never could watch it again it was so painful lol. I had watched every single game of 93-94 & I thought the Knicks would at least easily blow through the east esp given mj retired. I think the biggest worry was when starks who had been an all star that year seemd to have finally gotten more solid. He was pretty short for a SG but did not at all have the experience or game to be the floor general pg. So when he got hurt in March of 94 freakishly during a foul shot slipped on something at around half court & he tore his acl & came back way to soon. I believe he returned 2 weeks early. He also was never the same in terms of his really incredible jumping ability either. The Knicks really should have waited for him to return after the nets series. It was the 1st round & the nets really were not a threat. Ewing was ejected in game 2 early & destroyed them. They beat them easily in 4. Starks only started to return to form around the end of the pacers series. The west had so much fire power but seeing Seattle get stomped in the 1st round then the sun's were gone as was San Antonio Houston was the team I felt the Knicks had the best shot at but unfortunately olajuwon went next level vs San Antonio making David Robinson the leagues best scorer look like a hs kid. Dream was that scary great. This was bad news for the Knicks esp when people were shocked how hard a time they had w/ Jordan less Chicago & they barely got by the pacers. The Knicks def were a team that didn't have that killer instinct. They were up 2-0 on both the bulls & pacers. That hue Hollins call in game 5 saved them. Now they took 1 out of 2 in Houston speaking hom3 court. Sadly they relaxed at home & allowed a rookie Sam Cassell to beat them in one of the 3 straight games in ny. They should hsve finished Houston off at home. What truly sux Is game 6 was not a must win for the Knicks as Houston was the ones down 3-2. If starks had his miserable game 7 in game 6 the Knicks were still alive. Starks by himself almost won the title in game 6 scoring 16 or 20 pts in the 4th. He was so on fire that of dream didn't get his finger on that 3 the Knicks were Champs. In game 7 the rest of the Knicks played much better but now starks was God awful. It's really sad b/c if starks performance was switches from 7 to 6 they win. Ewing was their best player but sadly the rockets best player was at his position & dream was not just the better center than Ewing but the best player in all of the NBA winning the mvp & defensive player of the year plus of course outplayed every center in 94 & 95. He killed Robinson Ewing & in 95 destroyed a physically much younger Shaq in 95 in an embarrassing sweep. The Knicks for some reason just didn't have thar killer instinct as I said vs the bulls pacers & rockets each time they were up early in all 3 series. I think the last best chance the Knicks had was in 97. Sadly that ridiculous bench clearing brawl the league was ridiculous in suspending Ewing for just walking around half court when the brawl was well over. They really stuck to that " don't leave ur seat " beyond belief. Also the league decided to split up the Knicks best players in the next two games giving them no chance. I'd rather the Knicks were given the choice to allow the suspensions to play out Over one game instead of 2. The heat were a far inferior team were about to be put away in game 6. Instead of a final Knicks bulls ecf where Ewing finally had some extra fire power the bulls just blew the heat away to win their 5th title once they desposed of the jazz. I will say w/ olajuwon having that insane 94 & 95 I'd love to have seen if mj didn't retire in 94 & come back late I'm 95 if the bulls would have beat the rockets. The bulls had no center & dream really was on a level very close to Jordan's. He had that incredible of a year esp in 94.
@@nattyps3160 I'll admit that I couldn't watch most of the 7th game in 1994 (which I fell asleep during), knowing the Knicks were doomed when they blew Game #6. Starks did catch fire in the finals, even if he needed time to get back to form after his knee injury. I'd also rather they had taken their chances with Seattle, who probably makes the final round if they didn't get upset by Denver in the first. The 97 Knicks team was really stacked, and likely would have given the Bulls problems that series which never happened. The 98 team could have made some noise if not for Ewing's injury, what with the team being a spent force by the time he returned, which was too little too late by then unfortunately.
@@nattyps3160 damn that’s quite the explanation lol
I’m early, I’m a Knicks fan, let’s settle down for 20 minutes of crying and screaming, “ *Why did Starks have to lose his wrists?* “
Not a kicks fan but that 99 team with Larry Johnson man
LMB NBA Podcast bro stop it just stop
The highlights....or lowlights still hurt to watch.
NYK fan since birth...1974 Manhattan.
I like his voice over these basketball videos
Starks got blocked, and barely by Olajuwon
Series idea: Focus on veterans who finally won their first championship after years of coming up short. I’d call it “Long Time Coming.” Ex: Ray Bourque, Andy Reid, John Ellway
Jason Kidd and Dirk
Gary Payton
Wade Boggs
Roger Clemens
Tim Raines
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard.
I loved John Stark's heart and passion but trying to win a NBA championship as John being a 2nd best player on the team says a lot why Patrick Ewing never won a championship. I wish Knicks could have given Ewing more help, someone like Mitch Richmond, who was more consistent offensively.
💯
Starks was a crowd favorite, but I think Derek Harper was the second best player. Then Starks, then Anthony Mason.
Very true. I loved Starks heart and drive. But he could shoot you out of a game as quickly as he could shoot you in one.
SO true! Management could have done much better drafting and signing free agents to take the scoring load off of Patrick. We could have gotten Mullen but didn't. Starks was just too streaky of a shooter but I also blame Pat Riley for not sitting Starks down or asking him to drive and dish instead of waiting for him to get hot which never happened.
He cost them Game 7, for sure, and I would have benched him for being a overconfident moron for going 2018 Houston Rockets
I love P-Ewing and the Knicks so much. This brings tears to my eyes. P-Ewing is a unbelievable athlete, a good human being and someone who has worked so hard throughout his career. I will never forget the performances and guts that P-Ewing showed to try and will his team to victory. He did everything he possibly could. That's all you can ask for.
He missed a 2 foot shot to lose the series against Indiana in 95. Make the play and advance. Miss and go home.
July 9th, 1776: NY becomes a state.
MJ: I took that personally.
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😇
John starks game 7 very bad game smdh i lost money on them that year
@@ihatetitcok2845 mj was born in Brooklyn tho lmaooo🤣
Hahahahahahahahahaha
"A legend without a ring is a legend just the same." - Seth Rosenthal
Put that on a shirt, SB.
That quote is 🔥
And it is 100% true. Basketball is a team game.
Not the same
"...especially remembering all that it took to deny it." Drives the case home for me, at least.
Bars!!!
The Knicks were a John Starks 3 pointer away from beating Houston in game 6 of the '94 Finals. That was a great series. A little redemption for Olajuwon for Ewing beating him in the NCAA Finals in '85.
I can imagine Knicks fans in 1996 shouting "We're getting MJ and SHAQ" similar to when they shouted they were getting KD and Kyrie in 2019 lmaoooo.
Kd kyrie zion
Speaking as a Knicks fan during that time, nobody really thought we could get Jordan; he WAS Chicago. We did entertain the idea of Shaq, though, he seemed realistic because of the fallout between Shaq and Penny Hardaway. We got a good haul in 96, but had the Knicks gotten Shaq, they would’ve been champions by 2000.
@@Jeff_Pryce you Knicks fans are dumb.
@@satanspit4101 they choose to live in New York so you’re not wrong
@@satanspit4101 jesus christ chill yall as a fellow knicks fan I can't say your wrong but still ffs what yo fav team huh
When Seth said "Game Six could have been the John Starks Game" I out loud said "Oh noooooooooo" bc I knew exactly what was coming.
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@@Matthew83991 not bad Podcast alot better than I thought it would be,Keep grinding.
Beef history: Shaq vs free-throws
Jon and Alex already covered that one in Dorktown
Should make a video about how Shaq didnt carry Kobe
@@iamLODD but he did
@@joshmarley106 this channel hates on kobe lmao
He made em when it mattered most
Man those 90s bulls- knicks and knicks pacers series were so fun to watch. And the basketball was so good
Rockets Suns Jazz is the west
Patrick Ewing is the real deal, one of the best to ever do it, he may have never won a championship but these videos are a testament to his awesomeness, brilliance and greatness
Especially his greatness
Patrick Ewing is one of the most underappreciated players of the 90s. Just one title would have him higher on all time lists. That's the power a title can have on your legacy.
A Jordan fan but millennials don't understand how good PWing was much respect
@@anthonywilliams978 I'm a millennial and Ewing is one of my favorite players of all time
@@anthonywilliams978 I've seen various age ranges for Millennials. I'm 39 and some sources will say I'm a Millennial, and I definitely watched the 90s portion of Ewungs career.
@@anthonywilliams978 Almost all millennials watched Ewing play basketball. Learn the generation names.
If Ewing won a Finals MVP, he could've jumped Robinson on the greatest centers lists, but that's about it. Considering that Robinson is one of the most statistically efficient players of all time, center or otherwise, and even one Finals MVP might not be enough. You need multiple titles to jump the likes of Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, and Moses.
Ewing was historically great, but at some point in his career he went against five of the top centers of all time. It's hard to stand out among that bunch.
"A legend without a ring is a legend just the same."
It don't mean a thing without a ring
Thank you, a true legend.
“A legend without a ring is....
a legend without a ring...”
What kind of legend. Looser
So what if he doesn't have a ring? He has 2 Olympic Gold medals! Isn't that enough?
It's funny how that one last shot from John Starks in game 6 of the 1994 finals could've drastically altered Patrick Ewing's legacy.
The most admirable thing about Patrick was he never left. You don’t get that loyalty to a franchise anymore.
Great Dirk?
That's what I like about the 90s. Those guys didnt jump over to go team up together for easy rings. They worked with who they were given, and if somebody did leave a team early in their career it was to go to another non stacked situation. Case in Point Barkley joining the Suns.
@@pingngcapiz5362 yes, he was an exception.
@@dagameplayer orgs ain't loyal to players so players ain't loyal to orgs
IT played through losing his sister and an injury just so the celts could ship his ass asap. He lost his team and a bag even though he gave everything he had.
DeRozan thought he'd retire a raptor but got surprise shipped to SA
I'm a LAL fan but look how literally everyone of our draft picks got treated this past decade.
Furthermore, Lamar Odom trade destroyed that guys life.
Kevin garnet and paul pierce got shipped and let's not even talk about the Ray Allen drama.
Jlin got thrown out of NY and was then made a scapegoat for the rest of his career. Blake Griffin got traded
That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more players who dedicated most of their careers to an org and still got screwed by their orgs
In reality, it's rare now that both an org and a player are loyal to each other. Orgs have shown that they can't be trusted to be loyal, so players should do what's best for them. Lord knows the orgs will
Also prior to 1988, there was no free agency. You could only be drafted or traded. Players stayed because they had no real choice
Some future Untitled episode ideas:
Dan Marino
Derrick Rose
Vince Carter
Chris Paul
Larry Fitzgerald
Cam Newton
Adrian Peterson
Tracy McGrady
Reggie Miller
LaDainian Tomlinson
A Yao Ming untitled would be fun.
James Harden
You can’t do someone who’s career isn’t over yet (Larry Fitzgerald, Cam Newton, Derrick Rose, Adrian Peterson, Chris Paul)
Marino is pretty easy to understand: my Bills had his number in those days. I mean, we had to be dominant over somebody to make it to all those SBs that we lost :P
@@user-ge2sz1rz3m I mean for when these players retire in a few years whenever that is
Idea for beef history : James Dolan vs every Knicks fans
Already exists, look up “the worst basketball owner.”
@@donaldmacisaac8479 that video was about Donald Sterling
Especially the ones he's thrown out of MSG for demanding him to sell the Knicks
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Dolan vs himself
Extremely well put together series. These episodes bring back soo many memories!
Thank you for collecting all of my worst memories and compiling them into one video.
Funny how Seth is the narrator even though he's a Knicks fan
They do the same for Will and the Cowboys' Collapse even tho Will is a Cowboys fan. Same with Alex and the 49ers Collapse even tho Alex is a niners fan.
@@ShengYu1995 thats the reason why
It needed to convey the pain.
At least it wasn’t that snarky girl.
@@jpmnky is there another girl besides Clara who’s snarky?
I left 2 Knicks tickets in my hotel room for my family members, when I got back, there were 4 tickets there
- Charles Barkley 😭😭😭
He’s the short answer: Michael Jordan
That is the funniest diss about the Knicks I ever heard, thats exactly how everybody in NY feels except Spike Lee!!!
great storytelling and context. thank you!
Great vid, thanks for the trip down memory lane
Love Ewing. Totally forgotten that he was so durable in his career until his final seasons. A warrior. And I was rooting for the Knicks when they played against the Rockets in the Final.
- a 90s Bulls fan
You know something? Patrick came back surprisingly faster than normal for the 1999/2000 NBA season after he suffered an Achilles tear from the 1999 ECF against the Pacers. No question, Patrick had the heart of a lion.
Very solid 7 game series between two goated centers. I still have it on a VHS tape LOL
This was a really good video!! A lot of things I did not know and a couple more I never thought about. Well done!!
Love your videos man your a great narrator and story teller keep up the great work bro!✅
The narrator was definitely in a lot of pain going through this video.
Well he is a knicks fan this will always be painful to them
But at least he faced the truth and narrated this fairly.
@@OrionOodamafair point. I still can’t watch the 2001 game 7 World Series. I’ll die believing the Yankees should of won it. But I’m biased
"Why did Patrick Ewing didn't win any championships?"
Cause it's the Knicks.
Cause Scotty Pippin could only play for one team at a time.
And he was not a player you could rely to on to carry a team to a title… also letting John starks miss 20 plus threes in Game 7 and not tell him to stop shooting the stupid ball, also didn’t help… I didn’t think the 99 Knicks had any shot vs The Spurs
@@andu1854 IT wasnt a sweep it was 4-1. The fact they won once without means they can win Ewing.
@@havenhemmings3574
Michael Jordan is the reason why Patrick Ewing never won a Championship.
Scottie Pippen lost to the Knicks in 1994.
Pippen was overrated and a glorified role player.
@@KINGAMIIAMKINGfacts… they are hurting still
Mixed emotions watching this, mostly sad, great video.
Much respect for Pat Ewing. One of the best 2-way players of all time. Im a Bulls fan and got to watch him a lot in his prime. They were so close to beating the MJ Bulls a few times. The 90's Bulls vs Knicks rivalry was one of the best.
Yeah. I remember Charles Smith getting fouled 3 times under the hoop down 1 in the closing seconds, like it was yesterday. At least they didn't get the 2001 King's treatment.
Pacers fan myself, and looking back on it, the rivalry itself during the 1992-00 period between the two teams was incredible.
I love how high quality these videos are
Patrick Ewing WAS the Knicks.For many years I admired him carrying the team. Never been to USoA, just watching NBA on TV on the other side of the globe, but nevertheless- I couldn't believe Knicks traded him in such way. This was heartbreaking.
My man Ewing. Favourite player of all time. And the best Monstar in Space Jam
I used to like that movie when I was a little boy.
Man, the 1990's NBA was so awesome. So many great players, great teams. Stars that could score, and actually play defense.
Don't forget teams that actually tried to win every second they were on the court and captivating personalities that absolutely despised each other and used it as fuel to up their game.
Yea, what a concept
I think Alex English would be a really interesting contribution to this series. Some of those Nuggets teams could've won the title (especially that 1985 team) had things broken differently for them.
Thanks for the memories the 90s Knicks what a ride
Patrick Ewing and the Knicks: **Exists**
Michael Jordan: "And I took that personally."
The true villain of the league
Mike took a lot personally.
The legend of Michael Jordan STARTED with denying Patrick Ewing a title at Georgetown. It was just his life's calling to do it whenever he could.
I love how most of these “untitled” videos can be summed up by just saying: “Michael Jordan”
Jordan was truly a bum
@@blakkharted9672 a dominant bum
@@ColonelZeta yes very true after 10 yrs 2 first round sweeps 3 second round sweeps and some more losses in playoffs iam not a jordan hater i jus call a spade a spade
@@blakkharted9672 I didn’t say you were a Jordan hater. I respect your comment lol
@@blakkharted9672 Nah you a hater. I'm just calling a spade a spade. There are valid arguments that MJ was not as great as everyone think he was, but he ain't no bum by any definition of the word.
"Why didnt Patrick Ewing win a title?"
Didnt watch the video, but what immediately came to mind (besides MJ) is because his 2nd best offensive option was John Starks.
(Note: As a Knick fan, I loved John Starks , BUT I loved him much better as a spark, preferably off the bench, NOT as the 2nd offensive option)
Would also point out that the year that many believe they could have beat MJ with Van Gundy, Patrick Ewing roamed 20 feet off the bench, and the Commisioner did the rest.
Some different GM moves could've made things better for Ewing as well.
They ditched Rod Strickland after only 1 season got what was left of Mo Cheeks.
Also although Sprewell joined the Knicks in 99 and was a instant hit, they actually could've had him in the 92 draft....but instead selected career role player Hubert Davis instead.
@@FuShengAlexexactly... I think NY got comfortable when MJ retired instead make moves to get a better second option. That's why I can't say Game 7 was Starks fault when it was coach decision to keep him in and Ewing totally clamped by Hakeem all series. U can't expect a overachiever undrafted Starks to be good especially back to back in the Finals
Great video!!
I will never not get goosebumps from the Untitled intro
We need a Dan Marino untitled vid next.
Hey I’m a dolphins fan but I’m ok with that
or barry sanders
Absurdly talented. Great job boys. Back onto your content
This was a well appreciated breakdown
This dude just narrated my entire childhood and adolescence. My father passed on his curse of Knicks fandom to me... And for that, pain is nothing. It's expected lol.
this was great!
I was literally in the middle of typing Michael Jordan when he called me out lol
I was literally gonna comment “because of Michael Jordan”
And John Starks
Which....yeah we already know that story
@@aquaticaxle If you're referring to 99, it definitely was transitioning to Duncan at that point and I think Ewing was already out for the Finals.
Seth feels sorry for you
What about Riley and Mourning?
Come to think of it, wasn't Game 5 of the series vs Hakeem the famous OJ game?
Pat was awesome my fav player back then…
I was a Knicks fan cause of him…
Legend no matter what…
Carried that team n a whole city on his back…
N his shoes was 🔥🔥🔥…
I've lived these pains so many times. I've watched replays after replays, hoping somehow history could change. But nope.
Hey, thanks for giving due honor here.
first thing i learn: doc rivers been blowing leads since he was a player
second thing: people need to stop acting like jordan was alone. pippen had many big moments in this video alone.
Facts
B, i was there. X man and oak had pippen and grant shook. Mj gave them heart and stepped in every dustup
Oh yeah....you right about doc. Mj or phil quote earlier that year referring to rivers and smith joining the knick "new team same losers"
@@ericcallahan829 THIS NEW GENERATION bro smh
@@ericcallahan829 not bringing back X after the 92 season was such a colossal mistake. X had that same mentality Mason, Oak and Ewing had. Charles Smith was soft as Charmin.
This one hurts. That 99 team was and still is my favorite team ever. Would we have beaten the Spurs with Pat?, probably not but that team took a 12 year old me on a wild journey that will last with me forever. Good times although we came up short.
Allan Houston vs the heat OMG
Who is "WE"???
@@nymphopath9816 Internet trolls really have no life 😅
The fact that there is so many great players that have never won a championship. Is really a testament to how hard it is to win it all. Ppl take it for granted like it’s an easy thing to do ppl like MJ, lebron and Tom Brady don’t come along every day.
Amazing video
"Head coach Rick Pitino"
Well that's one of your problems right there.
Come on, at least he wasnt worse than rick pitino, celtics gm
Pitino did really well with the Knicks, it was with the Celtics that he screwed up big time.
@@PuchuKt Larry Bird is not walkin' through that door folks AHHHHHHHHHHH Bad flashbacks!
Hell, I'm a Boston Celtics fan from MA, and I love Patrick Ewing. Just the way he carried himself through his career, I found very admirable. Wish he could've got one.
His best ever playoffs series was vs Boston in 90....what a heroic effort from down 0-2!!!
As a fellow C's fan I agree
Great video
I still argue to this day the 97 team was the best team of the Ewing era. They still played the tough defense hallmarked from the Riley era, but it was a better offensive team too. It was Pat's last elite year before the injury in 98. He finally had a guard who could create his own shot in Houston, and after a slow start trying to fit in Houston really got it going late in the year and in the playoffs. LJ while not what he once was, was still a low post force and was developing that 3 pt shot. Starks was Sixth Man of the Year. Childs/Ward rotating at PG. That team was well equipped to face the Bulls. That series would have went 7 for sure.
Plus these Knicks got the best of the Bulls during the regular season. If they gave them a hrd time in the 1996 playoffs, imagine what would have happened in the 1997 playoffs... Miss Wedding dress Rodman was having the hardest time against LJ on the defensive end, while she was having the hardest time against Oakman on her defensive end!
Ewing and Houston were suspended for game 6 & Starks and Johnson for game 7 vs Miami , otherwise we would have had Knicks vs Bulls in an epic series . That 96-97 team was the most talented team Ewing played on , especially when you consider he was still playing at a high level .
Thats facts! And that's coming from a heat fan. The knicks were deeper and better in 97 than us. Luckily the suspensions swung the momentum and tim Hardaway carried us in game 7. Those knicks teams were always built more for the playoffs
Ewing and Houston were suspended for game 6 & Starks and Johnson for game 7 vs Miami , otherwise we would have had Knicks vs Bulls in an epic series . That 96-97 team was the most talented team Ewing played on , especially when you consider he was still playing at a high level .
@@robertjohnson4918 agreed! That 97 knick team was very deep and balanced. My heat were good, but honestly never quite as good as the knicks which is why they beat us every other playoff series.
@@timsmith1033 Did you notice Robert just copied the original comment verbatim?
@@nevalawse5721 Ewing and Houston were suspended for game 6 & Starks and Johnson for game 7 vs Miami , otherwise we would have had Knicks vs Bulls in an epic series . That 96-97 team was the most talented team Ewing played on , especially when you consider he was still playing at a high level .
Collapse idea: Arena Football League
Do one on the XFL?
The JBL league
Wow. Actually just realized it's not around anymore. Well lasted waaaaay longer than I thought it would
GOD, yes
@@zacharythomason7359 xfl is coming back 2021
Excellent! Excellent work!!!!!!!
Hello, thank you for your amazing content, came here for NBA history lesson. But got really captivated by the backround melody playing around 05:20. Anybody knows that melody?
I grew up in Brooklyn in the late 80s and early 90s.
Patrick was my basketball idol.
I was 14 years old in ‘95 when he missed that now infamous finger roll in Game 7 against the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals.
It’s the last time I actually cried after a basketball game.
I’m 39 now.
It’s amazing how much sports affect you as a kid!
You literally wrote what I could have, word for word. I’m 39 also born and raised in Brooklyn.
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Canarsie High School. Class of ‘98!
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Love it!
Welcome and God bless!
This series is the best.
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loyalty is a bliss in this day in age cant have that any more only how they treat you
well done piece
As a longtime Sixers fan, I had nothing but the utmost Respect & Admiration for Patrick Ewing. He was class on and off the court.
Bottom pick in a stacked draft, the most winningest coach in history, his first year leads to a superbowl, but never got a second chance. Dam Marino: Untitled
Marino lead the Dolphins to a Superbowl appearance in his sophomore season
@@jordancivic96 true, they stopped the bears perfect season then next year got to the big game. I thought it was all the same season.
@@Tb0n33999 Marino lead the Dolphins to a Superbowl appearance in his sophomore year in '84 and lost to the 49ers, then in '85, Marino's 3rd year, gave the Bears their only loss of the season, but the lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship game
Dam Marino never won because he doesn't exist
Dan was his own worst enemy
Thank you Seth for that tribute to Ewing and my NY Knicks!
Great words to end for a true New York legend.
Short answer: Michael Jordan
Long answer: Michael Jeffrey Jordan
Hakeem: What am I, chopped liver?
@@jasondyrkacz8270 Brother Why didnt he win when MJ was actually in the nba
Longer answer: James and Deloris Jordan.
Alternative answer: Hakeem Olajuwon
@@siddhantandhale2296 he did. 1995. Don’t you dare say Jordan was rusty because he was averaging 29-30 in the playoffs and still got swept by the Magic. And considering the Bulls never had a good center or even a good defensive center, if Jordan did stay in 1994, I don’t think they would have won 😘
I'm actually surprised this vid wasn't just a smiling picture of Michael Jordan for 21 straight mins 🙄
Jordan didnt stop anybody from winning in 85,86,87,88,89,90,94,95. Wtf does jordan smiling face have to do with 1994 and 1995? He wasnt even in league in 94 and got sent home early in 95.
@@cesarmedina7080 Because most of the time when the Knicks had a team GOOD enough to win a title, MJ was there. You really think Knicks had a chance in 86?
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@@KoolKeithProductions This is why you gotta ignore dumb goofballs bro...
Very touching and insightful. Sadly, recently, Ewing was REJECTED entrance to Madison Square Garden, as security did NOT recognize him, and snubbed him. Shaq mentioned it, as O'Neal was infuriated and disgusted that they did that to Patrick, recently.
That was a year ago
That John Starks Dunk was GD Amazing! I was a John Starks Stan ever after that day! Sadly he never lived up to the hype after that game. Still a great player though.
If Ewing had that 2nd star that was comparable to him, he would’ve won multiple rings
Exactly. That is all he needed. He never played with a bonafide star.
Right, the Knicks organization waited till Ewing got old then they acquired Allan, Sprewell, Camby, LJ, and etc. I think if Ewing wasn't injured, the Knicks probably would have beaten the Spurs in 99.
LMAOOOOO who's the first?
@Alex Kanyima lol if you've actually watched basketball at that time than you would know why. And if you were watching at that time, you dont know how stupid your question is because you should already know why the Knicks kept losing years after. Let that sink in doofus. How old are you?
If
This breaks my heart, I idolized Pat growing up in NY. I wanted him to win a champion just as bad as he did.
If he didn't choose Larry Bird's number, he could a had better luck
I was never really a Knicks fan, but I always deeply respected Pat Ewing as one of the best centers of that era. The 90s would not have been the same without him and the Knicks battling it out against the Bulls, this was one of the best playoff battles I have EVER seen in NBA history.
The Frozen Envelope curse. :) great video. Very good
Thank you for bringing these back, these are my favorite! Haven't seen one since Marta. Since I'm early, might I recommend Dan Marino? And Ted Williams. Williams would be an interesting one since it was so long ago and he missed like half a decade because he was fighting in World War 2 AND The Korean War
Ted Williams please!!
Top 15 defender ever & top 10 center ever
The video is mostly spot on. Like many loyal Knicks fans, I cheered and watched frustrating loses from every Patrick Ewing game and run. From the Knicks often getting owned by the Boston Celtics until that iconic game 5 victory of all places - at the Boston Garden. From not being able to beat the Pistons until the Pistons were old and tired in the 1992 playoffs. And of course, The Bulls. Then their rivalries against the Miami Heat and Pacers. On a competitive level as a fan, I will say thank you to Patrick and the supporting cast for good memories even if my beloved Knicks never won that coveted title. Looking back, I blame incompetent ownership and management. It's hard to succeed and form some type of solid stability when Patrick had eight different head coaches. And about the press saying that Patrick never had a number two? Xavier McDaniel fell right into the Knicks laps. And they blew it! If there was anytime as a Knicks fan I was absolutely pissed, that was it! Overall, I will always appreciate what Patrick did for the Knicks. He had flaws, but the Garden used to be on fire when he played.
Ewing and the Knicks were heart and endurance. I just love that , sometimes more than a perfect team, because it s human.
My favorite player of all-time. He never left. He made HIS team great. He did all he could to win a title, and he just fell short. And I still love him for what he gave me, and all the other Knick fans that appreciate him.
Really ? Zero championships. Great players step up their game in the playoffs
@@michaelares4240 you still have to have enough help. I'll argue he didn't over the long haul. A few yrs? Perhaps he did. In any case, not 4 that long.
@@michaelares4240 Spoken like a moron who never even saw that era of basketball. Ewing stepped up as much as he could, dipshit. But when you have no help in your prime, you’re not going to get far. I love John Starks, but if he’s your second best option in scoring, you’re not gonna win a title.
@@Jeff_Pryce I love Starks too, but he should be probably about a 4th best player on a truly strong team.
@michaelares4240 lebron didn't in the 2011 finals and people still glaze him😂
This was great. Back as a teen I was raised on a tiny pacific island and after years of reading about the NBA but never being able to watch it the first NBA games I ever watched were the Knicks vs Rockets Finals series.
Awesome
Knicks/Bulls and Knicks/pacers playoff series were super intense. I re-watched a bunch of those games on youtube a while back. I dont know if its possible to match that.
A legend without a ring is a legend just the same, especially remembering all it took to deny him.
Nice
How stupid is that
“A legend without a ring is a legend is all the same” is basically the point of this whole series
When this Untitled Series got started I knew the Ewing video would sting just a bit more. If Marino is next, I don't think my heart can take it.
Me either
subscribed off of this video great job
I watch this every time its on my recommendations and im not even a Knicks fan.
I still say
"Starks....for 3.....yes!!!"
When I throw something in the garbage.
I never transitioned to "Kobe"
No rings, huh?
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No rings.
I did become a LAL fan in 1982 as my Western Conference team......up to Lebron.
me too, he still s and always will be my favorite player
Patrick Ewing is one of the most underappreciated players of the 90s. Just one title would have him higher on all time lists. That's the power a title can have on your legacy.
Same reason Grant Hill, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Pete Maravich, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Allen Iverson, and Steve Nash have never won an NBA Championship: It’s really REALLY hard to do. Not everyone gets one, regardless if you’re one of the best players.
All of those guys ran into teams with better players than them. Timing and luck just doesn't always line up
Robert Horry has 7 rings. Rings are meaningless.
@Doug Lambaster They did take them to a seventh game, and only fell by five points.
@@NameCallingIsWeak Horry didn't walk into those rings forrest gump style. Teams kept wanting him on contending teams because he was a valuable role player
@@NameCallingIsWeak Robert Horry was a role-playing player. Get out of here clown.
Knicks loss tonight made me think of the reggie 8 points in the dying seconds game... 💔💔💔
At least we won the series
He really does mean everything to NY, him and Starks. They may not be on the court anymore but they will never be forgotten for all they did ❤🗽
Reggie Miller next?