Charles Barkley never won an NBA championship. Here's what left him empty-handed.
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- Why didn't Charles Barkley win an NBA championship? The simple answers -- "MJ" and "Hakeem" -- don't do justice to the depth of a career spent falling short of the ultimate goal. To really understand why, we need to dig into the teams: the excellent but fading 76ers that drafted Barkley, the brilliant '90s Suns, and the old late-'90s Rockets. Then we need to dig further into what happened to them -- the injuries, the blown leads, the makes and misses that comprised playoff defeat.
Barkley's individual greatness is well understood, but his teams' playoff failure too often gets simplified, almost into a meme. Episode 1 of UNTITLED will show you how close his teams came, and the specific events that led to their falling short.
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
Directed by Ryan Simmons
Motion graphics by Phil Pasternak and Michael Das
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Added a correction! 1993 was indeed Phoenix's *second* trip to the NBA Finals, not their first.
I was gonna say, y'all even did a Weird Rules episode about their first Finals appearance. :P
Suggestion on another episode: almost every national team in the World Cup.
In the realm of "sports entertainment", Cultaholic did a list of wrestlers who never won a title in WWE. Some, like Vader, won titles in other promotions, but still, those stories could also use a deeper dive.
Please do Texas Rangers vs Toronto Bluejays 7th inning best inning in history
@@alfredrodrigo9665 oh for Pete's sake, the only reason that inning is remembered is Andrews' three consecutive errors. There's nothing else special about it.
@@wanderlustwarrior Doing one on wrestling titles would be quite dumb
not to mention that time a bunch of aliens stole his talent
That's Wright at the Space Jam game
Best cartoon movie ever...the soundtracks were great too.
Sam Fisher rewatch it and tell me if it’s still good
Right how could they just skip over this ?
Ellafunt CMON AND JAM
Poor dude couldn't even beat Jordan when he played for the Toon Squad
😂🤦🏾♂️
Well to Chucks defense he did lose his basketball abilities to The Monstars
Yes, but the Monstars (who had his abilities) still couldn't beat Jordan. And that team was stacked
RedHeadRedemption yeah that’s true but Jordan had a sick dynamic duo with Bugs at point and Lola was a beast on both sides of the floor
You guys are funny with also a feeling of nostalgia.
"Thankfully, we have so many other ways to measure greatness."
Shaq says no.
Lol yeah, maybe. But Shaq is just fortunate that all the great centers of the 90's were past their prime when he hit his own stride by 2000. He needs to remember that..but he won't and will never admit that. Plus the center position was on it's last leg by the time he was in his prime..hey that rhymed (so did that, lol). Anyway, Shaq couldn't really dominate all the other greats..with offensive game too (Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, Mourning, etc.). Then by 2007, he was being called for an offensive foul that he got in his favor earlier in his career for trying to punish the defensive player. However, the NBA was changing it's flow already at that time.
@@crazykayz3 finally!!!! been waiting for someone 1 say this. underrated comment.
@@crazykayz3
Shaq dominated bums.
@@crazykayz3 Shaq is on record repeatedly saying that he thinks Dream is better than he was. Shaq was an unstoppable wrecking ball and was easily better than peak Ewing, Robinson, or Zo (Though not by that much, and all three of those guys are all-time greats).
@@crazykayz3 Bull crap. Why wasn't those centers winning championships before Shaq got drafted
You know this is shaq favorite episode 😂
😂😂
plus he probably made a killing betting against himself thru the career
@@l.u.rehuher3714 highly doubt it.
In honor of the Dolphins tanking, the next episode should be about Dan Marino.
Very good 👍
Came to comment this!
Reasons:
Montana
Bills
No help
Factz
I'm glad someone said this. Barry Sanders and LaDainian Tomlinson also do as two of the greatest running backs of all time, neither of whom even got to a Super Bowl. That's still mind boggling to me.
Jordan caused like 6 HOF to go ringless lol. Regardless, Barkley is still a Top 5 PF easily.
All facts. I never understood why they make fun of Barkley for not winning.
Jack Leone I don’t either
@Jack Leone Forreal. Shaq knows that he had to wait for Robinson, Hakeem, and MJ to age before he finally could become the man.
You might want to blame the late 80s Detroit pistons for that. Took the bulls 4 years to beat that team. They were never gonna let anyone else beat them after that type of trial by fire.
*The Bulls
Just watched Steve Nash. Ya then suggested: hey depressed suns fan. Here’s a Barkley clip as well for ya.
That's brutal 😂
And don’t forget how we were screwed out of a title in 2007.
He won 2 rings as warriors consuly
That's just cruel and I'm a Sonics fan 😂
Lol same, hopefully one day the suns will be back
Starting 5 of the All-Titleless team of the Jordan-dominant 90's:
C: Patrick Ewing
F: Karl Malone, Charles Barkley
G: John Stockton, Reggie Miller
Shaq, Penny Hardaway, Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp
drby0788
Shaq doesn’t count
He still went on to Win a title.
I get it though that’s the 90’s but....
Oh yea and as did GP.
Steve nash
Cyle Reyes u need sum milk bro, in his first two seasons the suns never went into second round
Farizzaky Imam true, but I meant like overall. Later in his career especially.
“But he was also... wide” 💀
*T H I C C*
They dont call him "The Round Mound of Rebound" for nothin
could do a bunch of these together called Untitled: Thanks to Jordan
Malone and Stockton is where you would start. Also Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, and tons of other all time greats from the all time great era of the league.
Karl Malone and Gary Payton and John Stockton lol 😂
Thanks to Pippen, Grant, Paxson, Kerr, Rodman, Kukoc, Phil Jackson....and the garbage ass eastern conference with one hofer per team....
Produced By Khirey Akeem payton won with 06 heat
@@producedbykhireyakeem4340 Payton has a ring so he ain't untitled
Short answer: he played in an area stacked with the toughest players ever in the History of Basketball
Cap
@@iman5147 no
So did MJ
Yeah right wasn't he one
Hakeem 2
Mj 6
Magic 2
90s
You can literally make an all-time great team with the players that MJ denied a championship:
PG - Stockton
SG - Reggie Miller
SF - Barkley
PF - Malone
C - Ewing
With Penny Hardaway & Shawn Kemp & Chris Mullin coming off the bench.
Seriously.. Don't forget Payton
@Ethan Petro MJ denied him a championship. I also mentioned Payton cuz they brought up Kemp
@Ethan Petro That Heat team was so lucky to even win a chip. Perhaps the most rigged finals.
@@strangeclouds7 Doesn't matter, the glove still won a ring. The thread was about players who never won one.
@@hennylo68 Bro read the comment. Players that MJ denied a championship.. Is that too hard to understand?
Who needs a ring when you’ve got the TNT gig 😂
You can have both. Ask Shaq.
Yeah, a TNT gig where they can’t stop telling you that you’ve got no rings. Poor Charles.
@@EdgeHeadFUHaters RINGS ERNIE
Most of those old 80’s and 90’s champion players are broke now.
So definitely the gig lol
@@EdgeHeadFUHaters and Kenny
"what left him empty-handed"
Played during Michael Jordan.
xSTATOKEx lol
xSTATOKEx not when Jordan retired in 93. Two years were wide open for him to get a ring.
Anthony Broaddus dude west was insane
@@broaddusmarines I mean many all times greats probably would not have a single championship if they only have two random years to work with. Most of them chase the ring their whole carreer while only getting a couple of rings. Two years are not enough to work with.
Now if we are talking about the Knicks u right
Barkley’s playoff numbers were insane.
barkelys teams never had a ligit center if they would of had one he would of won at least a couple titles
justin alley Definitely
@@justinalley3399 absolutely. Good point.
@@alonzotanner1226 also if dan majerle would have actually showed up in the playoffs
@@justinalley3399 or kj
Charles Barkley is one of my favourite players of all time. His tough "no-nonsense" demeanour and shot-making abilities makes him great.
Suggestion for another episode of Untitled: Ken Griffey, Jr.
The guy from the video game?
Brilliant idea!!! Griffey was great and I would love them to do an episode on his lack of a championship
Cause mariners. Not much to be said.
@@theterrordivine he also played for the reds but ok.
thats a funny way of spelling marino
future untitled video ideas:
Stockton and Malone
Marino
1990's Bills
1970's Vikings
Barry Sanders
Munoz
Dude literally forgot about the bills omg
Can't help but cringe for Bills fans.
TBH jazz were not that different to the suns.. beat by sonics, rockets then unstoppable bulls
It's not technically too late but Joe Thornton
2002 kings
As a Sixers fan, this pains me....Charles is my favorite all-time Sixer, and wanted him to win a title SO badly. I was rooting for the Suns SO hard in 1993, but they just came up short. It's a shame, because Sixers management failed Charles SO hard post 1987 when they tried to build around him. He's STILL mad about the Moses trade (rightfully so), and that trade + trading the #1 pick in 1986 held back the franchise SO much. If we had kept Moses, and Drafted Brad Daugherty like we should have, we still wouldn't have been as good as the Celtics in the late 80s or the Bulls in the early 90s, but we would have been set up much better to at least challenge them. And if management had actually listed to Andrew Toney, maybe he gets the proper treatment he needed for his feet and he has a few more good years which would've helped Charles I was actually happy when we traded him to Phoenix, because Philly management had just failed so dismally to build around him, so I was glad he was getting a legit shot to win somewhere else. But yeah, the combination of being in the same conference as MJ, as well as the Celtics, and not being able to get it done in 1993 all doomed him. Such a great video!
Sixers management been failing so hard since forever.
I was gonna Comment a John Stockton joke
But I'll pass.....
John Stockton teams did not have a real center, it was before foreign players really join the NBA
@@lloydkline6946 The Bulls didn't have a star center either.
@@ja8ames no. They had good role players at center?bill Cartwright was the very good college player and chicago bull other centers was decent.center Cartwright as a veteran when he played with Michael Jordan
@@lloydkline6946 The Jazz had Mark Eton in the early years. I guess that I wasn't sure what you meant.
@@ja8ames lou longley and bill Cartwright Chicago bull championship centers. Felton Spencer another Utah jazz center
This series screams dan Marino
And Jim Kelly/the early 90's Bills.
Already done (22:17) czcams.com/video/kr2eqhWdI7Y/video.html
criminal that it's not the first in the series
Barkley's best shot at a title was with the Suns in '94 and '95. The Rockets became their nemesis. They were just unable to beat the Rockets even after being up 3-1, not once but twice. It's incredible.
After doing the research, 95 seemed like more of a letdown than 94 because the Rockets entered that postseason as a six seed after finishing with just 47 regular season victories. The Rockets also went a dismal 17-18 during the final portion of that campaign and their chances of repeating only had two chances, slim and none. Next thing you know, they got hot and of course, the floodgates opened when they swept the Magic in the finals.
He was drafted in 1984 in 1983 the Sixers had won the title. He had top 50’s league MVP’s and several HOF on that team. 84, 85 was his best shot.
In 94, the Suns were up 2-0 after sweeping the first two games in Houston. They then proceeded to lose 4 of the next 5 by an average of 15 points.
It wasn't the first time that the Suns entered the finals in 93. They already had a finals appearance way back then when Paul Westphal was a player and not a coach.
@@mckinneyman4325 That team was old and injured. They lost in the first round in 1984 when Barkley was at Auburn. 1985 they wasn't gonna beat Boston which gave them game 4. 1986 Barkley 2nd season they broke that team up
so wait I literally just realized that Barkley’s best chances of winning a championship and 1997 were all ended by people in his draft class this video is great btw
Those NBA on NBC games were marvelous! I miss those days!!!
Facts🎯💯
Chris Paul about to end up on this last along with Marino and Moss
And Harden and Westbrook
Moss didnt win with Brady? Im hazy on the early Pats
@@munchenonyou3774 I don't think so. Wasn't Moss only there for a year, the same year they went 16-0?
@@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 im not sure thats why im askin lol thanks man
@@munchenonyou3774 Just checked. They didn't win
We need one of these for Allen Iverson
Thats a pretty easy answer. He was an inefficient scorer and not a great teammate. Great scorer and amazing hustle for his size but he's lucky he got to see the finals at all.
Ryan Sansaricq yeah but if they made a video about it they would go into more detail. We know the reasonwhy barkley dosent have a ring, Because Jordan. But a video about it would be much more interesting
@@YoungOddo true. I think he got really unlucky in terms of coaches or teammates. He had an older Mutumbo for like 1 season and thats it... rough.
Rodzilla AI had locks???
Such an easy answer: he was only great for one season. And even with DPOY, COTY, AND 6MOTY on his team, he couldn't even come close to beating the Lakers. Add to that the Nets and Pistons making waves in the east, he would never sniff another finals. Traded to Denver to become a glorified scorer and never make waves in the playoffs. Funny how the nuggets trade him to Detroit for Billups and then immediately go to the western conference finals same year. In short: AI is soooooooooo overrated
Carmelo Anthony should get an untitled episode. couple of others could include: A.I, T-mac, Chris weber just to name a few.
Allen Iverson would make for a solid untitled.
Webber*
melo was never a superstar.
Carmelo is still in the league
John Stockton
I think the 1995 Suns team was Barkley’s second best chance at a ring. Not mentioned here was the fact they significantly revamped with bench depth and added a good Danny Manning. He was playing some of the best basketball of his career, gave the Suns a big inside presence, and had them out to the leagues best records when he blew out his ACL in a late season practice. If he’s healthy I think they roll into the Finals.
I also get a little tired of people bagging Barkley’s Houston years. Yes, they were old. They were also really good his first season and came up just short of reaching the Finals. The window on that team to win more titles was closing anyway so why not add Barkley?
I am starting to love this new series already. Can you do Steve Nash.
Yeah!
Haven't Phoenix Suns fans suffered enough with this video alone? What did the City of Phoenix or the suns ever do to you
I genuinely expected those Nash teams to win one, at worst. My goodness were they beasts.
Nah Allen Iverson or Karl Malone
Vince Carter and if they are going to do for other sports Larry Fitzgerald
Jarome Iginla would be a real interesting focus, one of the best players of his generation who never won a Stanley cup. Had the 04 cup taken away on a bad call and then ring chased on 3 different teams with no success.
I can't believe he slipped my mind.
I totally agree. Jarome was also a hell of a competitor
I couldn't agree more
Curtis Joseph and Roberto Luongo. Both would be interesting to see.
Overrated basketball player. Never heard of her
Sb nation: How?
Me: Michael Jordan..
Nah, it was mostly Hakeem
@@iman5147 nah it was mostly MJ. If im not mistaken he beat barkley 3 times to hakeems 2
@@kungfukenny8098 so Barkley only played 5 years
Ok bronsexual
@[̲̅Z][̲̅-][̲̅R][̲̅o] ᗰᗩᖇᑕOᔕ ok bronsexual
Mj and Olajuwan. One of the match-ups with the dream he had a 3-1 lead so he blew it mentally and loss in the rockets due to his defensive liabilities. He was a great player that failed in his brightest parts of his career and did not get over the hump.
It all comes down to which team you fit well in.
There have been players who have won championships who were not great defensively, such as Clyde Drexler.
And on the other hand there were NBA championship winning players who were great defensively, but were average at scoring efficiently or in clutch situations. Such as David Robinson. Career 18.1ppg on 47.9% shooting in the playoffs.
If Barkley had Mutombo as his teammate in the late 80s or early to mid 90s, he's most likely going to win at least 1 championship.
Suggestion for the next episode of Untitled: Patrick Ewing
Christian Rutledge the answer to that is simple, Michael Jordan
@@c00chiemane29 with a side helping of Reggie Miller.
@@c00chiemane29 Ewing went to finals when jordan was retired and still couldnt win one
That's easy John Starks went 2- 17 in game 7 of the finals when Jordan retired.
Legends Never Die They put up a better fight than my Orlando Tragic.
"Why did Charles Barkley never win a ring?"
Michael Jordan: allow me to introduce myself
Bulls as whole. It wasn't because of Michael, because Michael had three straight first round exits before the office put help around him.
Mj and The bulls were the reason a lot of legends didn’t win rings. Hakeem too
Yeah rings are won by teams not individuals. People keep forgetting that
@@stevensb.guillaume4754 umm hakeem won 2 rings And 2 fmvps
Add Hakeem too
I hope you do more of these series, and I wish they had more views because they are incredibly well made. Slightly more so than all your other videos.
best new series! amazing! keep up the good job!
Future Untitled suggestions:
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul (probably)
Reggie Miller
Karl Malone
John Stockton
I don’t think they would have thought of those guys without your helpful suggestion. Thanks.
@@khpitbos17 Assuming this is sarcastic, at the end of the video, the guy literally asks for suggestions.
Everyone knows why Melo doesn't have a ring. There is no reason to do a video about that selfish greedy bum.
Afnaan Syed
Add in Vince Carter
Malone and Stockon should be next in the future untitled feature.
In 15 years: “Untitled: The Mike Trout Story.”
Might as well go ahead with the video.
it’s a damn shame too
Honestly though many great baseball players haven't won a ring so trout won't be the first. It's much rarer in basketball.
Justin Pruett oh yeah definitely! He’s amazing but his team is suffering
Stupid post. In baseball, one player doesn't make nearly as much of an impact as one does in basketball. You could put Babe Ruth on the worst team in MLB, and they still won't make the playoffs.
Man i appreciate your narration and insight about one of my favorite players, Barkley. I always wondered what happened those one and a half year that Jordan retired. Thank you
Stockton? Malone? Miller? Ewing? soooo many possibilities for this excellent series
How the hell can one channel have so many good series’s? Rewinder, dorktown, highscore, and how this!! Insane
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Chart Party
This channel is what happens when you have a dedicated group of folks that stick to making good content and not just chasing clicks. Ever notice they get straight to the point of the video. They dont laze about for 70 percent of the time.
Foul Play
Fighting In the Age of Loneliness
they're all pretty good if u ask me
This was great! Can you do one on the 2002 Sacramento Kings and them getting cheated out of going to the NBA finals?
Chuck is definitely a top 5 power forward ever and there's no doubt about it. It's a shame that he never won a title simply because he played in the same era as Michael Jordan.
To make matters worst, nowadays newer fans of the game only remember him as the funny dude on TNT but I can't blame them for not catching up that era but still.
Look, everyone in the youtube comments probably has as many NBA championship rings as Charles Barkley.
But that in no way means any of us are close to being as good at basketball as Charles Barkley was. So rings shouldn't really be a part of the equation here, unless he was given a legitimate shot multiple times which he blew. Which for the most part I would say, he did not.
Meanwhile other players such as David Robinson and Clyde Drexler have choked or under performed numerous times in the playoffs yet still came away with a ring.
The Freak: Randy Moss, receiver to never win a super bowl
Kept from a ring by the special Manning brother, lol.
Hagonian and Joe Flacco
Snow Wolf a Charles Rogers reference never thought I’d see the day. Knew him well, sad story.
Another interesting fact about Moss is that Brady, Belichick & the 49ers all got their very 1st SB loss w/ Moss on their squad.
On top of my head:
Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, Randy Moss, Junior Seau, Jim Kelly, Barry Sanders, Dan Marino.
That whole Bills team could be a 3-hour long episode
Fran Tarkenton
McNabb made 4 consecutive NFC championship games. Really sad he couldn't get a ring
I can see the Buffalo Bills 2 part series(90-91 and 92-93).
@@StevenTokyo06 I believe the Bills would be a 4 part series?
"...supine..." Thanks for making me look that up. Seriously. A channel that makes me think about stuff AND doesn't treat me like an idiot. Where was this in my school daze? Great job, thanks!
Those back injuries are tragic, especially for a player playing much bigger than his height. Glad you’re covering my favorite player though #roundmoundofrebound 🙏🏾
Someone mentioned Ken Griffey Jr. I think Ichiro would also be a good one. Randy Moss would be a good football one. Karl Malone and John Stockton for basketball. Marcel Dionne for hockey would also be a really good one.
You could basically cover a ton of this series with people from the Mariners. Ichiro, Griffey Jr., Edgar, Felix...
Dan Marino?
@@italics610 Dan Marino would also be a good one.
I feel like Stockton and Malone is redundant given this first episode considering they also lost to Jordan and the Bulls, no?
@@imightbebiased9311 Also another solid player with no World Series rings is Alfonso Soriano.
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
ESPN was on the TV the other day and it was a talking head show where the people were doing their usual endless speculation - I was talking with my girlfriend and she made a point that one thing that SB Nation does that's interesting is that instead of endlessly fretting about the future like ESPN does, SB Nation is a lot more slower and deliberate, they're about unpacking the past of sports. And hunkering in and telling a good story.
Skippy the Alien CNN popped in my head as I was watching - exact same structure...just people yelling at each other because it makes good background noise. Or maybe it feels like a progression of a plot like how on tv shows they’ll have scenes of people walking and talking.
But then Pardon the Interruption popped in my head as not exactly a counterpoint...but something. Like, that show is people speculating and yelling like all the others, but at least it was around two people who liked each other and were good friends and knew each other for decades.
All these other shows, it feels like a performance. They’re making up their opinions on the fly and not for a second do I think they genuinely believe them.
Congratulations, man. Your videos are simply excellent.
Round Mound of Rebound. My first NBA player as a kid that I idolized, and in turn introduced me to the game I would forever be in love with. As a Philly kid born in 1982, the late 80s and early 90s Barkley Sixers teams were my first love. I actually became a Suns fan after the trade, had the Suns starter jacket and all. The one and only time I genuinely rooted for a team outside my Philly 4 for 4 roots. It’d be 10 years until the prime Iverson years. Then we would be put through the Process to wait almost 15 years for a legitimate championship shot. I’ve said this is my last window to see a Sixers championship in my lifetime. Unfortunately we all know the rebuild system in the NBA is broken. Kwahi going to Toronto was the unforeseen roadblock last year, in which an injured Warriors dynasty had paved a way to a championship window. This year is make or break for the Sixers...the East is theirs for the taking and any West opponent will be beatable. But next year the Nets and a healthy Durant with unknown free agency movement will provide a tougher path. Just hoping for an injury free season and will accept whatever happens if so.
Damn the name of this series is awesome. When I first saw the name I was kinda confused that they hadn't picked a name yet.
Charles was such a beast. People really forget how dominant he was. He was super unlucky having to face two of the greatest players of all time in the finals and western conference finals in MJ and Hakeem. No one mentions him as one of the best PFs of all time. Usually it’s TD, Malone, and KG as the top 3 and Charles never gets mentioned. Dude is an all time great
Great? Absolutely. But he's not on Malone's level or TD's level.
Dirk better than KG. Sure KG's more talented, but Dirk is better.
@@Benkenobi8118 he's as good as Malone though not as good as Tim
@@Benkenobi8118 you’re out of your mind
@@Primus_Phallus dirk is not better. Kg dominated defensively also
@8:15
So happy Chicago beat Ainge in back to back finals after his association with Boston ☘️
Sir Charles - BEAST! Thank you for all the memories, Chuck!
I can't wait to watch the one you guys do on Russel Westbrook and James Harden in a few years
This series is going to be amazing
Im excited for this series!!
Some great players do next;
Dan Marino
Ken Griffey Jr.
Junior Seau
I always tell people Kevin Johnson injured himself out of the Hall of Fame.
I am alive man I never knew that happened... smh, he was for sure HOF
He should still be in. He did enough
KJ is still my favorite player
Kj is a hall of fame player imo
He was the 90's version of DRose.
In a couple of years:
“Clayton Kershaw never won a World Series. Here’s what left him empty handed.”
dbadefense1990 he’s my favorite pitcher. But it will come sooner than you think. 7 years of losing so far in the postseason. It’s actually quite sad. I don’t know how do that.
you hate to see it =X
(also I think I remember you from somewhere...)
Here’s why.... and the video is just a screenshot of Kershaw’s left hand
Aaron rodgers bff and lover I was talking about a video coming out about him, not a World Series 😭😭😭 why you do me like that
Phillip Rivers will be right before him.
Cruyff, Zico, Messi or other football greats that have never won a title for their national team would be an interesting subject for this series.
much better, USMNT.
I remember vividly that 94-95 team. It was clearly Chuck's best shot to grab the brass ring. Deep and veteran team with versatile scorers. They looked invincible in December with a revived Danny Manning a force off the bench. But then he blew out his knee and it all slipped away.
If only he had Dikembe Mutombo as his teammate instead of 6"9, Oliver Miller or 6"9 A.C. green as his center.
I gotta like the videos so future me knows that I've already watched these videos. They're that good
Untitled: Steven Gerrard about him never winning EPL would be great
Steven*
Nah. He has won many other trophies, including the Champions League.
@@mikeroot5108 they should do a rewinder on the slip. Gerrard slips, ba's in here......
@Radikal islamischer Massenmörder aus Emskirchen they do m8, but their football videos are mostly to do with USA National Team events
mike root irrelevant to the topic
I’m actually hurt that nobody has mentioned Tracy McGrady
Stxpyou Tracy McGrady.
He never played in the second round
@@troubledouble2306 actually he did with the spurs in 2013
Franchise History TV
😂😂
Man I LOVE these historic NBA lessons
The last two NBA untitled videos you guys still need to do IMO are Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing. Would love to see your takes on them.
I thought y'all just got lazy in coming up with a new series name
...I get it now
That's what I thought. But now, the title makes sense
Midway Monster: The story of Brian Urlacher. A true legend without a championship.
I watched a good part of 1993's finals game 6. One of the best moments was an interview, mid games 5 and 6, when one Sun's player said he saved Phil Jackson from watching a Grateful Dead show (which the coach said he hoped the series would end early, so he could go to the concert).
That's hilarious 😂
I used to wonder why TNT recruited Kenny Smith to talk with Barkley and Shaq on the NBA but watching your videos, I never realized how greater he was than I originally thought cuz I used to watch a lot of NBA as a kid cuz I was a huge Jordan and Starks fan (Jordan = Skill, Starks = Heart) so I didn't pay attention to lower profile players if they weren't like those guys then. Your videos made me see that he was more worthy of a good rep than thought in the game. The Jet was good. No doubt. Thanks man.
This is nice!! I am excited to see the following legends for this segment:
- Stockton and Malone
- Reggie Miller
- Patrick Ewing
to name a few.
Marino, Moss, Elgin Baylor, Ichiro, Ken Griffey Jr
Baron Brylle Mercado - Real Estate Agent two words... Michael Jordan
@@c00chiemane29 Hakeem Olajuwan
I loved seeing Reggie Miller play. I was so heartbroken when the Pistons eliminated the Pacers the year he retired
You can add Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Tracy McGrady to this list
Those suns uniforms were amazing
The ones they wore from 92 to 2000 were badass I would have to agree...
Best ever IMHO
90s nba Jersey are the best overall
Great video 👍🏼
I have to say. You all do a fantastic job on these. They are soothing, informative and entertaining all at the same time. Did Nolan Ryan ever win a world series though?
Hope you haven’t been holding your breath waiting for this answer but he won one in 1969 (!) (god damn he played for so long) with the Mets
Do a special on Iverson's '2004 - 2007' years. How he revamped his game and started this whole 30ppg and 8apg wave that Westbrook and Harden are on today. Nobody was dropping 40/10 games on a regular back then. Share insight on how he was snubbed for 2008 USA team despite being one of the top players in the league in 2006. How the Detroit trade completely dissolved his career etc etc. Blacklisting by Stern. I always found that angle interesting.
Untitled: Jim Kelly, Dan Marino
I love these mini docs
One generous channel allowed me the chance to watch entire Game 5 of 1995 WCSF.
The Suns had the best and closest chance to dethrone Houston and redeem themselves from previous year's failure.
Prior Nick Anderson's infamous brick FTs, Sir Charles had his own missed FTs that should seal the game and the series for Phoenix. Alas, he blew them (Anderson probably didn't watched that game as personal reference). It was for Phoenix's taking, with everyone but Olajuwon were either off or under the weather (as said here, Drexler had stomach flu).
Barkley deserves a championship, but such a shame he failed to bite when needed the most to back his barking. On the good side, he's man enough to be accountable and defending himself well from Shaq's taunting.
Great presentation, as always.
When Jordan played, nobody else ate. That’s the definition of 🐐
Are you stupid, Jordan only won 6 rings. Nobody by that I mean nobody ate during Bill Russell time.
@@TJ-sc9ms 9 HOF teammates in a league of only 8 team's, Shidd they weren't suppose to Boston had ALL the Damn TALENT !!!
Garbage competition, unbalanced teams, the ONLY sg worth talking about in the east from 90-94....Come fly with me? Craig ehlo? Todd Day? Rex Chapman? Jeff Hornacek? Joe Dumars? Stacy Augmon? Dee Brown? Mugsy Bouges? Hershey Hawkins? Hubert Davis? John starks? Reggie Miller? Ngga please
Lucky he retired. The kept Hakeem away in 93. Couldn't do that forever.
@@southernflavamaker lol just loud and wrong
Here let me save y'all 20 min: JORDAN
Exactly what I was going to say
Jordan had nothing to do with the 80’s. That was all 76’ers front office, Celtics and Pistons.
It’s ungodly how much MJ gets blown from fans, most of whom didn’t follow or weren’t born in that era. Many have never even seen Jordan play a live game....but instead are just going off the narrative that MJ is the greatest because of clips they’ve seen on YT......which in itself is debatable.
I’ll definitely agree that he’s in the conversation and might even be the greatest, but he’s not head and shoulders above everyone like people think.
@@StuUngar all the other legends and hall of famers have said MJ is the greatest, and head and shoulders above themselves. I think I'll trust what they say.
Mamba824 SOME of the legends say Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time.
I’ve never heard any NBA legend say Jordan was head and shoulders above everyone else. Is prime Jordan better than prime Magic? Maybe, but if he is, youre talking about a small difference. Same with Oscar Robertson, Chaimberlain, Olajuwon, Kareem and James.
Mamba824 Uh most players say that about other great players
Well put video
@12:11 I see Charles, Kurt, Muggsy and RuPaul...strange times in the 90s I guess lol
I will always appreciate Barkley's greatness.
Come, let’s cry together fellow suns fans
K N A C K I hear ya
So sad. The Suns haven't been relevant since Steve Nash left
Can I use my jersey as a tissue?
:(
Screw Robert Savrer
Here's what makes the 90s Basketball so great... You had teams with some of the best talent we've ever seen anyone of them could be champions in their own right but they all existed in the Era of Michael Jordan.
nah not really. it was mostly teams with one superstar or star and not much more just role players and barely stars players no legitimate second options. the closest thing to actual championship teams were the late 97 and 98 jazz and 96 sonics teams but both either choked or were coached very stupidly.
@@mythification11 It's pretty obvious you weren't around in the 90s otherwise you wouldn't be saying something so stupid.
@@NotTheWheel i was dude. those teams were good dont get me wrong but apart from the bulls there were few legitimate championship teams. Name me a second option that is not stockton, kemp and mayeb an older clyde from any team the bulls beat? what team had a scottie pippen level second option?
@@mythification11 James Worthy.
@@NotTheWheel you mean a guy who retired in 93? he was great second to third option in the mid to late 80s for sure but considering the health of both magic and himself in their last years I would not consider him part of a legitimate championship team in the 90s
I’m from the uk and love your content 🇬🇧
If you mute the video and listen closely, you can hear Shaq laughing loudly somewhere in the distance for the entire video
under. rated. comment. !!!
WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS
From shooting hoops, to the Super Bowl.
Excellent videos
Seth Rosenthal went from good to great with this episode. Bravo!
It’s because he was on the Suns, only the Diamondbacks can break the Arizona sports curse
There's also Phoenix Rising soccer team, who admittedly are small and not nationally relevant, who look good to win it all this year.
Dont forget the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA. 3 time champions
Mark Martin: 5-time NASCAR Winston/Sprint Cup runner-up, arguably the best stock car driver to never win the Cup championship
Even if it doesn’t happen here, it will inspire a S1apsh0es video in a few months.
Martin never won the Daytona 500, either.
@@fishflake1209 He probably will, yeah; it'd just be nice to see SB Nation do more non-baseball/basketball/football videos than just once in a blue moon, though :/
Keep this series coming, I like NBA story
Pain...so much pain
I am so here for this series. I love SB nation!!
Also; Jim Kelly?
For hockey go with either Marcel Dionne highest points for a player without a cup or mike gartner he played on several very good teams and got over700 goals but never got a cup and for a goalie do either Curtis Joseph or bobby lu
I was sure Gartner was with the Rangers in 94 but nope; forgot that trade was midsesaon
Charley Barkley was a amazing player regardless one of my all time favorite players
Charles is one of my all time favorite players. He's in my top five and maybe even top three. He's my favorite sports broadcaster too