Seattle loved Alex Rodriguez until a $250 million contract from Texas turned it into beef
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
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Alex Rodriguez is a guy who is easy not to like. In a display of egotism that is so embarrassing I feel uncomfortable looking at it, he kissed himself in a mirror for this Details magazine shoot. We’re all pretty sure he had multiple pictures of himself as a centaur in his home. Oh, and he took PEDs or whatever. But none of that hits the main reason Seattle Mariners fans absolutely hate him.
Because for the city of Seattle, it’s much more personal than that.
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This is fascinating. You guys should think about making a longer, multipart series about the Mariners.
That's a Pretty Good idea
We can't demanding the LOOOONGER version of what we have now.... But it's a pretty good idea.
And I may be out on a limb here, but the soundtrack should be cosmic jazz.
On a more serious note, we need a DLC for that on the 2021 season…
@@kaijudirector5336
JUST the 2021 season?
The 116th win in 2001 was secured by striking out... Alex Rodriguez
Poetic justice
Yes! In Seattle, I was there!
What happened in the post season
And the rangers won the pennant that way too. Man has a penchant for striking out at the most ironic moments
What’s so special about the 116th win
T-mobile sponsoring the mariners beef is kinda heat
I am not eliminating the possibility that it is not actually a sponsor,..
I’m so down for corporate sponsorship on this channel. More videos pls.
Correction: Nintendo were the owners of the Mariners in 2001. T-Mobile owns the Mariners as of 2019.
@@joeyparkhill8751T-Mobile does not own the Mariners. They bought the naming rights for the stadium, that's all.
@@joeyparkhill8751T Mobile does not own the Mariners. They only bought the naming rights to the stadium.
Congrats on the baby Clara!!
Was baby born on Mother's Day?
how do you know that? 🤔
@@poindextertuneshe made the baby
I remember being in the left field bleachers at that first game when A-Rod returned to Seattle.
I caught the Monopoly money flying in the air. It wasn’t just any old fake money-someone had edited A-Rod’s face onto it. I was very confused by the whole thing, being 7 years old at the time. At least we had other things to celebrate that season.
It is funny how, the lying aside, leaving for a bigger contract was such an unthinkable thing at the time. Thankfully, Rodriguez vindicated it all in later years by showing what a dunderhead he was in all aspects.
@@emeraldaly7646A dunderhead that still has one more ring than the mariners.
@@thejoshpresle And?
i was at that game out near left field as well!
Congrats on the baby Clara! Hope you and the baby are healthy and happy.
Did anyone else get an ad for the Secret Base Patreon
On the way in and on the way out
I got three if them, all paired with a unskippable 15 sec T-Mobile ad.
@@WearingGoldluckreally unfortunate, because I love Jon Bois but I HATE that T-Mobile ad
Yeah lol
FOUR TIMES. 🤑🤑🤑🤬
"presented by t mobile!" no add read, no sponsor read.. just like on a tv show.. i'm proud on you guys at secret base! (tbh, the quality of your content is better then anything on tv!!)
For those that don’t know, the Mariners play at T-mobile Park
It’s deliciously ironic
I didn’t know power they changed the name from SafeCo
I hate the renames. A stadium name should be for the lifetime of the stadium.
It will be SafeCo Field until a new stadium is built.
@@DJSchreffler The Astros had to change their stadium’s name. It was originally called Enron Field.
@@nrkgalt The Astros accepted their money. That name should stand as a testament to their greed and bad decision making. Union Station would have been a much better name.
And now in 2024 the Dodgers are signing Shohei Ohtani to a near billion dollar contract without batting an eyelid 😂
One where they barely have to pay him anything until the contract is over…
If it was solely about the money, I'd agree that history would look back on it less than approvingly. But it was (and continues to be) so much more.
700 million and a billion aren't exactly near each other, considering A-Rod's entire decade long contract fits between them with room to spare
We haven’t heard of Angels fans express any hostility towards Ohtani for leaving.
Ohtani actually went to a winning team though
The Seattle series you guys did is still one of my favorite doc series I’ve seen great job guys 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jon and Alex did a great job with that one.
The only two players who could’ve been mentioned but weren’t are Dan Wilson and Kyle Seager.
Not the best players don’t get me wrong, but as far as telling the story of the team, both deserve a shoutout for their respective generations of the team.
Not sure if Mariners fans would get over this even if A-Rod did bring the Sonics back.
Not even close. A-Rod would need to cure all cancers for me to even consider not hating him.
Oh, for sure we would not.
Nah, because we _also_ remember having our sports team stolen from us in the Supersonics and gaining a team when the Timberwolves fanbase loses theirs would be just as bad. In fact it would have probably made me hate him even more. "You try and bribe us, and in doing so hurt someone else in the same way we've been hurt before" talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Def not. It would be like the parent who abandoned you showing up to your graduation with an extravagant gift. Thanks. Cool, but wtf about the last 20 years?
@@Toast_Pointsget over it 🙄
Sports fans are so overly dramatic 🤦🏾♂️ lmao
Coming Soon - Beef History: Newborn Baby vs. Sleep
Coming soon as well - Beef History: Secret Base vs. anyone who slightly disagrees politically. 😂
Coming Soon - Beef History: Clara's Patience vs Toddler Tantrums
Was A-Rod an a-hole? Yeah, absolutely. But hey, if someone is offering me $252M, why turn it down? lol
I don't fault him for taking the money.
What am I reasonably going to do with more than $50M?
@@jdotoz enjoying life without worry by the time you're 35?
@@muhammadrifqi7308 You think you need more than $50M for that? $50M invested on autopilot can support $2M per year of inflation-adjusted spending. What exactly are you worried about that needs more than that?
Wat are u talking about right now @@jdotoz
Yeah, there are SO many reasons to dislike Alex Rodriguez, but going to the team that was willing to pay him the most money isn't one of them. If a competing company offered me twice my current salary to go work for them, I'd quit my current job in a heartbeat, and we shouldn't expect any different from professional athletes.
I LOVE the baseball beefs. They're slow-cooked; lots of meat & potatoes
It always seems to come back to the Mariners, doesn't it?
The Mariners aren't good or bad. They're protagonists.
The Mariners are the main character?
*points gun* Always have been.
It all comes back unless it’s a 🏆.
Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs
Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization
Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division
Beef History: Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas
Beef History: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley
Untitled: Reggie Miller
Untitled: Tracy McGrady
Untitled: Ken Griffey Junior
Untitled: Carl Yastrzemski
Untitled: Ted Williams
Untitled: Jim Kelly
Collapse: Early 90s Bills
Prism: Steph Curry and all those mid major players
Rewinder: The Catch By Willie
Rewinder: Wide Right I, Wide Right II
Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds breaking the respective HR record(s)
Untitled: Don Nelson
If you want Griffey's untitled just watch the Mariners series they did
@@trutty right because KGJ career only lasted from 1989 to 1999. surely it be too hard to go into more detail about his championship woes. of course i watched the series, it doesn’t change the fact that we could get a more in depth look at his career. wooosh.
@@markjackson6431
The Ms series literally does talk about the rest of his career?
You keep posting 'em, they keep ignoring 'em. GIVE US MONEY OR WE WITHOLD NON-BEEF VIDEOS FOR FOUR MONTHS RAWRRR
@@randomjunkohyeah1Yep, they go over the Cincinnati years in short.
Aside from a brief stint on the 08 White Sox, Griffey didn’t play in the playoffs after leaving Seattle.
Did anyone else get an ad for the Secret Base Patreon?
Yeah I got that and a T-Mobile ad 😅
Bruh twice lol
@@Jma952 just got the second round of ads 😅😅
Got it 3 times during this entire episode
nope we're adults and we pay for Premium
Congrats Clara!
Growing up during those years in Seattle was absolutely wild. I remember going to games in 99 and 00 and cheering my brains out for him and even as a little kid, I understood that him taking the bag despite what he'd been openly promising us as "wanting to play for a winning team" was like a slap to the face. Surprisingly in that era, my favorite players went Edgar, A-Rod, then Griffey. Losing A-Rod the way we did hurt, especially because we'd just lost Griffey. But with Griffey he literally just said "I wanna be closer to family" and I don't think a single person in Seattle ever held that against him. The late 90s and early 00s were a fun but weird time for Mariners fans. Before the dark times.
Beef History ideas:
Jerry Glanville vs Sam Wyche
Deion Sanders vs Andre Rison
John Elway vs Dan Reeves
The entire AFC Central hated Jerry Glanville
NFC EAST V EACH OTHER.
How about Buddy Ryan vs Mike Ditka
@@MazeDaGr8more like Buddy Ryan vs Everyone
The Glanville-Wyche beef continued when they were both in the NFC.
Congratulations Clara!!!
As a Sox fan I hate AROD and everything but $95 million wasn't a comparable offer and wasn't worth considering. The hometown discount is a couple million at best, not $157,000,000.
Congrats Clara! And great job as always. Good night and good game.
Congrats on the baby Clara! good luck and have so much fun! Thanks for always making these sports videos!
If someone is willing to pay you $250M then by all means, TAKE THE MONEY! Listen, Seattle is a beautiful city, love it there I vacation there, but unless one of the coffee girls gives me 6 kids and moves to Snoqualmie, take the money bro.
No one would've been pissed if he took the money and ran. We Seattle fans aren't stupid and have had many big name players leave for more money without the whole city hating him. Its when you lie to us and play us as chumps when you sour your relationship with fans. If he would've said nothing during his free agency move, or did the "I'm only focusing on this season and playing my best", no issue. But he had to promise us bullshit, which doesn't fly.
If you want an example. Looks at John Tavares skipping out of Long island to play for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He lied to them the whole time too, and now Long Island hates him. Would he have not promised them that he was gonna stay, no one would've blamed him for wanting to play for his childhood dream team.
congrats on the baby Clara! I hope your delivery goes smoothly, and thanks for the vid
Congrats Clara! never would have suspected a thing
I was at Safeco for the return of Alex in 2001. The amount of hate and virtriol was palpable. People hung out after the game to sling back beers and call him every name in the book even though he had long since left the field. It was great.
Nice surprise at the end! Congrats Clara! 👏🏽👏🏽❤️
Given what's in the stinger, let me just say congrats on the baby Clara 🎉. My guess is that you're due for a well deserved maternity leave from secret base for a good while after this video. May your birth be smooth and your child healthy.😊
Great work, Clara. You're sarcasm could be its own video. And congrats on the wonderful edition.
i like this channel...but when i fall asleep youtube thinks i LOVE this channel. i wake up and secret base is on almost every morning lmao
Oh my God congrats!! And no, I couldn't hear it at all. You absolutely killed it as always.
I'm as big a M's fan as anyone -- I remember going to the game in 2001 when A-Rod returned (I was 7 or 8 at the time, and the sky was full of monopoly money. It was awesome). But I always thought it was ridiculous for fans to hate A-Rod for the crime of... leaving to get paid the salary he deserves? If anything, fans should have tossed blame at Mariners ownership, they had allowed multiple superstars (Griffey, Randy Johnson) to leave the team in the late 90s and early 2000s. It's crazy how Mariners ownership was somehow able to walk away from this being the 'good guys', when they've been probably the team's biggest impediment to actually winning anything.
Okay.. but ask yourself why everyone hates Arod and not The Big Unit, The Kid when they left. I think you'll see its about more than just leaving for the money.
Congratulations Clara Love the details and Stories Always
252 million vs 95……get real Seattle. As if y’all would not leave a job for more money.
Thanks for the quality. Secret Base is always good.
I love how billionaire owners manipulate people too thinking that players not taking a paying cut is selfish
It's technically true but it just relies on people ignoring the owner's mutual selfishness. It falls especially flat for baseball with the whole lack of salary cap thing.
@@bigbearkat2010baseball does not need a salary cap they more need a salary floor because the main problem is half of these owners are cheap skates and they get away with it you can't begrudge these bigger Market teams for wanting to invest and win with their teams
Every, Single. Time. They never complain about the billionaire owners. It's just another example of a right-winger being anti-labor, which they think they can disguise because labor in sports happens to make more money, but its the same reactionary bullshit.
@@MazeDaGr8 Personally I disagree with the no need for a salary cap because it makes the big market teams think they can buy a championship which also leads to them just wasting money overpaying free agents. I agree that since it's not a thing is baseball the "I can't afford you" excuse less justified.
@@bigbearkat2010 Okay I'll give you that overpaying free agents 'cause yes there's definitely a lot of that going on but I disagree with the notion of "Team shouldn't buy champion" cuz honestly with the exception of cheating, it shouldn't really matter how you win a championship, it only matters that you Win one. Also I still think a salary floor is necessary because simply put you don't win championships by being Cheapskates unless Everything goes perfectly, just ask the Rays & A's how Moneyball worked out for them
CONGRATS, CLARA! Love the reveal.
CONGRATS CLARA!! And happy mother's Day!
A-Rod won the beef. He has a ring, Mariners don't.
Great job on this documentary, Clara and crew. So well done. And yeah, us Ms fans were probably unfairly mean to A-rod, but damn he sure was/is easy to hate. And we were there in King's Court, the 2012 night A-Rod broke his hand, and it was from an Felix Rodriguez pitch. That section was known for being especially loud, and gosh did we come unglued with unabashed giddy joy when he went down in pain, writhing and squirming. It was the day after Ichiro was traded unexpectedly to the Yankees, so our fan base was even more raw 🍖
I'm already sick of T-Mobile because it's literally the only commercial I'm getting.
T-Mobile sponsoring this video is fitting.
I'm so glad it wasn't Starbucks!!
Also, the second the to last time I was at T-Mobile Park I saw an ad from Starbucks plastered all over the stadium saying "We're here for the home team"
There were so many people who were pissed about that.
For those of you who don't know, the CEO of Starbucks at the time (Howard Schultz) owned the Sonics and basically marched them down to Oklahoma City and Clay Bennett himself.
Yay!!!!! Thank you for the video!!
That said, A-Rod walked so Bryce Harper could run.
It's not needlessly gendered. Seattle is female.
"Perhaps I'm victim blaming..."
Yes.
I'm still waiting on the sweet sweet beef of Chuck Lidell and Tito Ortiz
I just got a Jon Bois ad. That’s phenomenal.
Growing up in the northwest, I’ve noticed it seems like Seattle baseball fans like him but mariners fans hate him if that makes sense
I’m a Mariners fan, I’ve never known anybody to hate ARod.
T-Mobile sponsoring a Mariners themed beef history is deeply ironic because they have the naming rights to the Mariners’ park
Was just binging some Beefs, so happy there’s more to be had.
CONGRATULATIONS CLARA!!!
Congratulations Clara!!!!!!!
"Perhaps I'm victim blaming"
Yeah, you are. Not sure why.
Fun fact: in 2001 when the Mariners won game number 116 to tie the all-time record, the game ended with an Alex Rodriguez strikeout. I was there, I saw it with my own eyes.
I don't truly hate A-Rod anymore. I sports-hate him. There's a difference. But 17-year old me in 2001? I hated him.
Always sad to see a Cup Run end, but that was amazing!
Congratulations Clara!
Nice work! How about Sol Campbell vs Tottenham for a future video?
As much as I would LOVE another football/soccer vid from SB, ya gotta remember that they’re an American channel so vids about footy are gonna be an extremely rare occurrence… However, personally, I would LOVE to have a video about the Maxi Lopez v Mauro Icardi beef!
@@matthewlo7868 that’s why I liked the Keane v McCarthy one. Was interesting to hear the perspective
How about a rewinder for Tottenham Ajax 2019?
Imagine if A-Rod and Griffey Jr stayed and played with Ichiro.
They likely don't have the money for Ichiro if they do.
The Griffey trade ended up being a big positive for the Mariners. He dealt with too many injuries in Cincinnati.
Mike Cameron was better during those years for the M's. They also got Boone and Olerud with that money
3:58 Even in the 2000s, a Scott Boras disasterclass? How am I not shocked.
Congrats on the baby, Clara!
This is the A-Rod in Seattle. I was a Mets fan and he was my favorite player. Too bad he couldn't keep being this guy for the rest of his career. He had the ability to be the best position player of all-time.
I’ve always wondered about the hypothetical of Randy, Junior, Edgar, A-Rod, and Ichiro all on the same team at the same time, if Ichiro had gotten to come a few years earlier it could’ve been real. I wish I could’ve seen something like that
My favorite moments of Arod are three. When I was very little, my brother and I used to play 2 person lawn baseball. My brother was always the Red Sox since we live in Maine. I was always Seattle, since Griffey played for the Mariners. I was like 8, and I thought Arod was Arod's first name, so I used to call him Arod Rodriguez, and when I was pretending to be him at bat, I hit lots of lawn baseball homeruns, so he temporarily became my 2nd favorite Seattle Mariner purely due to getting good luck when I pretended to be him during lawn baseball. My other 2 favorite Arod moments are the time he freaked out and tried to slap the ball out of a Boston pitcher's glove to avoid getting tagged out. Someone I know photoshopped a purse onto his arm and put in a speach bubble saying, "Don't touch my purse!" Then there's the photo of Varitek and Arod fighting and Varitek just has both hands on his face. Screw you Arod.
I didn’t think I could like Arod less but him writing that letter to Boeing is insane
cant wait to see the beef history between milwaukee and bendict counsellout in the future
The parallels between A-Rod and how Russ Wilson left town are uncanny
Felix also plunked Jeter and Ichiro in the same game he broke A-Rod’s hand. It got a little rowdy in King’s Kourt that night.
Did i jus watch a secret base ad, while watching a secret base VIDEO🤯🤯🤯
Wow you guys truly are big time with the T Mobile sponsor that's awesome. Get the bag
I have an A-Rod signed card from 2003 with a piece of jersey in it as well. It depicts him obviously in a Rangers uniform, but the jersey piece itself is from the Mariners.
"Regulars can never really know celebrities." There goes my quest to be best friends with the Secret Base gang. 🙂
Sports are one of the only professions where people become anti-worker and pro-owner smh
It's pro sports it ain't no such thing as loyalty between teams & players. I felt A-rod did the right thing. How could you turn down that kind of money
Great video. Bring back our Sonics!!!
I’ve seen him play as a Ranger at Safeco, and saw him hit his 500th home run at the original Yankee Stadium against the Royals.
Gave this a like for the announcement at the end. Congratulations in advance/arrears (depending on if/when you see this)
'Centaur legs' is positively golden. I freaking love you humans.
the fans were totally wrong, 95 mill compared to 250 mil? every one of those fans would have done the same as Arod.
10:29 idk why but of all the beef related puns, pronouncing the plural as “beaves” like leaves made me chuckle
Don't forget when Mariners designed Safeco field, they somehow decided to make it the most pitching friendly park in MLB. They finally moved the fence in 2013 and kinda admitted their "mistake". I remembered clearly ARod said in 2000: if you move the fence in, I might stay, but to no avail, of course. Oh, he also said, if Mariners win the World Series, I might stay.
Congrats to Clara! I was wondering what she was so busy she couldnt finish the outro. Now I know
congrats clara!
Congrats on the baby Clara🎉
I was at the first game he came back to Seattle. Wild atmosphere.
Glossing over the historical context in the early part of the video: The Mariners were in serious jeopardy of relocating to a different city had it not been for the 95 playoff run, which A-rod was on the roster for. That year is credited as saving MLB in the city of Seattle and fans fell in love with the team. How can you not form that kind of emotional attachment to the rising star from that team?
I got to go to his first game back in Seattle. Was a fun day.
Congrats to Clara! Hope everything is good with you :)
Oh no not this lady.
"this is beef, not chicken".... laugh in my head
I can't blame Seattle's fans for their beef with A-Rod. You don't need to know someone intimately to expect their future actions to square with the way that they currently present themself. It may be too much to expect altruism, a hometown discount or even genuine care for fans and the city from a sports icon. However, expecting multimillionaire athletes to keep their word, avoid cheating, put the team first and be generally decent human beings is never too much. Puff pieces about the likes of A-Rod might be foolish... but they don't make the reporter necessarily worthy of blame. The adoration from all the M's fans who shelled out and bought his jersey doesn't make those fans blameworthy either. This beef appears to be purely the fault of A-Rod (and his camp), no buts about it.
Ah, as a fan of a very particular program recently, yes, this "why you have to lie to me on the way out the door" angle of the narrative is very close to home, and yes, is absolutely the basis for big beef. Juicy beef.
Alright you got me I’ll rewatch the Dorktown
This is completely random but I just started listening to the mean book club podcast and realized that THAT Clara is the same as THIS Clara!
Mazel tov, Clara!!!
Good to see Russell Wilson learned to not ask for absurd perks like an office for marketing team in order to not engender ill will with a new team.
Somewhat similar to how aldridge left portland, saying he wanted to be the greatest blazer ever, then signing with the spurs instead. Except he never won a ring, and he had a chance with that team in Portland.