Terrell Owens' beef with Steve Mariucci set the tone for T.O.'s entire career
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2024
- Forget everything you know about Terrell Owens - his on-field absurdity, his off-field… well, absurdity fits there too. But forget all that. This is an origin story, an account of how Owens became the T.O. we remember today.
And it’s basically thanks to beef. This is the story of Terrell Owens and Steve Mariucci failing to get along in a way that helped nobody but T.O.
Couple little errors: at 1:53 I said Jeff Garcia a 28-year-old rookie, he was in fact 29! And then at 10:39 that was actually their second game since being together in SF. That's my bad. Taking my flogging in private.
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Directed and edited by Ryan Simmons
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"Forget everything you know about Terrell Owens"
Me: done
"we are gonna talk about Terrell Owens"
Also me: I dont know who that is
Lmfao this is funny big t.o. fan
Mitch Hedbergade this joke 30 years ago. Doesn't surprise me though, Seattle fans are notoriously slow.
The Star Celebration remains one of the funniest moments in NFL history.
And no other team was more deserving of such a hilariously disrespectful display.
2nd to Moss mooning the fans at Lambeau field
@@winterassassin22nah Moss didn't get decked immediately afterwards 😂
Especially after finding out T.O. did that because the "God is looking down on the cowboys star" motto for the Dallas Cowboys stadium he did as a nice gesture, then when Enmitt Smith and dallas took it as an insult (understandably) went back and slammed the football on the star
Then T.O. said "Ok, you wanna be like that ok its on" then he did it again out of spite and Teague blindslided him
@@winterassassin22 That's definitely in the top three of celebratory recreations in this house.
1. The Star
2. Beastquake Dickgrab
3. Moss's Moon.
Will narrating. It's been a while. Welcome back.
Yes 🙌🏿🙌🏿
Yeah they were giving all the interesting ones to the unlistenable one for a while.
@@zym6687Who? They're all pretty good in my opinion.
He is lifeless and yawn inducing in this one.. could be the script tho too but either way this episode was AWFUL!!!
@@zym6687who are the unlistenable ones?. I personally like clara and Seth the most
Honestly, on the TO drama scale, this is like a 4/10.
McNabb would be a 10 I presume?
@@fortynights1513they did that one a couple years ago. I’m guessing why we got this one.
@fortynights1513 that was like a 975470 on a scale to 10
Ikr, I was waiting for the big bombshell quote to open up this beef, and instead they went their separate ways in 2003.
This was tame by Owens standards.
@@fortynights1513sb already covered their beef
Side note about the 1999 season:
That season the 4-12 Niners and 5-11 Falcons played each other on Monday Night Football at the end of the season.
That has to be one of the worst combined records ever by two teams to play each other on Monday Night.
But they couldn’t have predicted Jamal Anderson and Steve Young’s injuries that derailed both teams.
To be fair, before the season, it was one of the best teams of the decade vs the defending NFC Champions. It looked a lot better on paper. I bet the schedule makers thought the game would determine who would win the NFC West when they put it on prime time
@@roshango125ab For sure. After all, they had just met in the divisional round the previous season, so I'm sure it was surprising to see just how poorly both teams had been playing by the time that MNF game was played.
@@roshango125abI don’t blame them for thinking that would be a good matchup, but still it’s interesting to consider how much a team can fall off after losing their offensive focal point.
As for that particular game, at least you could say those two played a close game, even if neither were relevant.
@@phoodiegamesOfficial Jaguar Gator 9 did a video talking about late season Monday Night Football matchups in the late 90’s and early 2000’s that featured teams that turned out not to be super relevant.
That matchup was far from the only one, but it is probably the most egregious example.
What happened in those years is that we officially started to see the biggest effect of free agency and the salary cap:
It became harder to predict which teams would be relevant going into a season (which is what you hope to be able to do with late season Monday Night Football games).
As for that particular game, at least you could say those two played a close game, even if neither were relevant.
What a sad game
We need a beef history of Al Davis and Marcus Allen🤝
You can tell Will did his T.O. homework with the "Get your popcorn ready" line.
this still a weak ass video
"I love me some me!!!!" - TO
"Yall think 84 Mr Clutch? You better take another look!! 81 is on a mission!!!"
@ftwsam2246 True Statement!!
Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs
Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization
Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division
Beef History: Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas
Beef History: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley
Untitled: Reggie Miller
Untitled: Tracy McGrady
Untitled: Ken Griffey Junior
Untitled: Carl Yastrzemski
Untitled: Ted Williams
Untitled: Jim Kelly
Collapse: Early 90s Bills
Prism: Steph Curry and all those mid major players
Rewinder: The Catch By Willie
Rewinder: Wide Right I, Wide Right II
Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds breaking the respective HR record(s)
Untitled: Don Nelson
Collapse: How Dan Snyder destroyed the Washington Redskins
Collapse: Post TB12 Blues: The Fall of the New England Patriots
Collapse: How the Denver Broncos went from an AFC powerhouse to a neverending rebuild
Collapse: How the 2015 KC Royals won it all and then blew up instantly.
@@coruscant100they have a royals collapse vid already I think
@@CaptCKernelBut they don't.
@@coruscant100 dammit, I merged timelines again...
bro does his homework. im on board with all of these.
He annoyed me with the Niners, like any player you hate playing against, loved him with the Cowboys, really sad when he left. The secret to TO is that smile. He plays with passion, but is himself happy and having fun. That rubs some the wrong way, like certain head coaches.
He also treated everyone around him like garbage. Teammates, coaches, analysts, fans, executives, everyone. No one wanted to put up with an egomaniacal bully.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014not true at all you sound soft
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 Ask anybody who ever played with Terrell. They say that he is really a nice guy and that the rumors about him are not true.
@@raynel8495 unlike TO, his teammates don't blast him in the public. That was TO's problem. He made locker room issues public.
Those white mid to late 90’s Niners uniforms look cool in my opinion
Yes
Yeah. I liked both the red and white jerseys the team had in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Buffalo Bills legend T.O! Love that guy. We gave him the key to the city just for signing with us back in the day😂 those were dark times
H😂
We did the same thing in Philly
those days are coming back soon, don't worry
I feel it's gonna be dark again mcdermott is not our head coach and unfortunately allen is not the quarterback we need him to be while mcdermott and Brady are his coaches.
Once again they gave allen no veteran presence behind him to help shape him they brought back mitch trubiski not once has allen had a proven backup joe flaco would have loved to come to buffalo to help out over signing with Indianapolis.
Mcdermott is too stubborn in his ways buffalo is going threw a complete rebuild except we should have fired the coach I'm born and raised here in Buffalo I love my team I'm 45 years old I've seen it all four straight superbowl appearance four straight losses .
Allen is not the quarterback we need to get us to that next level and mcdermott is not that coach he has proved that completely last season
Every sport has one of these legends
I would love a beef video on Patrick Roy vs. Mario Tremblay
I had the honor and privilege to meet T.O. in 2015 while visiting Southern California. He was a very respectful and cool person to talk with. Completely the opposite that the media portrays about him.
Anyway, I asked him about his relationship with Mariucci during his time in San Francisco. He flat out said that Mariucci was running the team like an old school college coach. He didn't know how to manage the egos of the team, and everything fell apart.
Now, Owens admit that he should have handled certain situations more mature. But, as Jerry Rice said, if cross him, he will never forget.
This helps understand his time in Philadelphia, Dallas, Buffalo, and Cincinnati. He needed a strong father figure to keep him in check, and it seemed no one wanted to take that role.
He had Andy Ried. Maybe it was just him.
The media makes him out to be, lol? Did you watch the video?
Really? Not that many accounts of Mooch coaching that way, or if so, not to discomfort. There are many coaches who were identified fully of what TO is accusing Mooch of and there's actually footage of it. TO very likely framed it that way just because he didn't get his way.
@Porthos240 Listen, people read to what the media writes. Most times, reporters and columnists write false narratives with snippets of the truth.
Back then, before social media. It was entirely different. Now, many athletes are more open to their experiences.
I'm telling you what he explained to me, and after looking into it more closely, Owens had a point. Again, it doesn't excuse his moments of bad judgment. At the same time, you can't just blame everything on him when other factors play a major role.
@MrOctober44 Do you read or listen to what Owens has said about his problems with Mariucci? You need to clean your ears and look at everything with wide eyes.
Go sit down somewhere.
TO may have been a bad teammate(although there are plenty of teammates who love him), but between the lines, he never gave less than 100% and he should've been a first ballot hall of famer.
Whoever said he was a bad teammate though that he played with?
When you're a total douchebag for over a decade you can't expect the media to forget it
@MrOctober44 , when you retire with the second most receiving yards and are tied for the second most receiving touchdowns in NFL history(again, when he retired), the media should put you in first ballot. Whoever used your logic should have their vote taken away.
@@terencejones4057, there were numerous teammates who considered him a distraction, but I don't think any of them doubted his effort on the field.
He did come back like a month early from a broken leg and put on a show in the Superbowl.
It's true, I do forget TOs time in San Fran compared to the eagles bc of the beef.
As a 49ers fan, life just hit a full-circle moment because TO's son Terique worked out at the 49ers' local pro day. How's that for feeling old?
6:11 SKIUUUUUP!
Good to hear Will again
Also secretBase never misses
Their videos are good, but it would be cool if they revisited some of the series they haven’t done much of lately
That was the case for a long time, but now there are occasional misses.
After seeing this video, I'm wondering if they could do a Rewinder episode on Teague's clothesline hit on T.O. I'm definitely a 49ers guy in that rivalry, but it was still a legendary moment in the rivalry's history.
Dang, how different Mooch's career could have been if he hadn't hesitated and had went to Tampa
Tampa doesn’t win that SB with Mooch instead of Gruden though
@@Fernando_616In your opinion why?
@@fortynights1513 part of why TB dominated on defense was because the Raiders offense was the EXACT same as what Gruden ran when he was there. They knew it inside and out, and were never threatened by what was the league’s most potent offense that season. There are interviews of players mentioning how they knew what Oakland was running most of the game thanks to Chucky
@@Fernando_616True, but they still are probably at least getting to a Super Bowl with a different coach.
I’d agree though that the Super Bowl performance isn’t as dominant at the end.
Tony Dungy should have two SB rings as a coach
Owens played in the wrong era. His personality would’ve worked in today’s game.
Imagine if Twitter was around and mainstream in his prime
TO paved the path to todays NFL
Not really.. stefon diggs is doing the same thing and once he loses a step the league will move on
Yall think TO''s problem was the TD celebrations. It wasn't. He was throwing teammates and coaches under the bus. That was his problem
@@MikeBNumba6 Yeah. The man could ball. Gave 100% on the field. I put his name out there in the highest echelon of WRs the game has had. It's most things everything outside that. He was a headache. Owens became a pain in San Fran but he got even worse later on with other teams.
I'm a longtime 49er fan. When Owens was leaving, I was really curious to know if the problems were with the organization or with Owens. Seeing the problems arise with his next team, the Philadelphia Eagles, headed by respected Coach Andy Reid, I thought, "So it wasn't the 49ers after all." The circus continued in his next team, the Cowboys.
I really thought the Niners were going to win another SB after 94.
As a long time 49ers fan I'm hurt
Be grateful at least you guys go to Superbowls. My cowboys can't even get to the conference games. Also be thankful Jerry Jones isn't your owner and GM
@@enriquegarza3127
I never said anything about being a 49ers fan.
@@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310If Young doesn’t get hurt in 95, I think there’s a world where they do.
Consider that Green Bay lost to Dallas in Dallas, and if San Francisco was the one seed, that matchup could’ve occurred in the divisional round.
If so, I’m taking San Fran over Philly, Dallas, and Pittsburgh.
Great video
TO with hair is crazy lol
Can we please get more Collapse videos already? Seriously, it seems to be nothing but Beef History and Rewinders now. Where's the rest of the content?
I could live without another Beef video, ever.
@@charlesclark3840Yeah, I'm pretty much over Beef History. Unless it's Thomas vs Jordan, then I'm gonna pass on it.
@@coruscant100 what is it about basketball that causes nearly everyone involved to be jerks to nearly everyone else? It is like if you could have a football team with only wide receivers, you might get the frequency of personal melodrama you get with basketball. I especially do not click on any of the basketball beefs and have not for quite a while.
Basketball has players whove never lost in their lives. Since 1 player can really win at every level before the nba, they come up and experience losing for the first time in many cases. Theyve never dealt with playing on a bad team before. Theres more to it than that, but i think thats a huge factor in why. Theyve never really had to deal with adversity within the game(most guys) , so when it comes up its a brand new experience. And its more of sport where individual praise is constantly thrown around. Me first attitudes as well. But overall I wouldn't say all of them are Dicks lol.
Jeff Garcia. Donovan McNabb. Ray Lewis. Tony Romo and Jason Witten. Maybe the guy just liked having an enemy (or three) to motivate himself.
Chase Utley vs the Mets would be a great one
i wish i lived in a timeline where Seifert retired after the last superbowl win, and we kept Mike Shanahan as our HC
Shanahan would’ve been a better coach to finish the 90’s with; especially considering what happened in Denver.
In retrospect, the Niners could’ve repeated in 95 if Steve Young doesn’t get injured in my opinion.
As for Seifert, from a Seahawks fan, Hall of Very Good coaching career.
He obviously inherited a lot of talent, but also got a really good resume out of it.
Two championships, a further three conference championship game teams, and even with the really bad three year stint in Carolina, his win percentage is .648; about the same as Bill Belichick right now, and bested by only four coaches who coached as many games as he did.
He also was their defensive coordinator for a couple championship teams beforehand, and counting those years, he was on their coaching staff for all but two of their 16 straight seasons of 10+ wins.
Hall of Very Good.
@@fortynights1513oh, i love Seifert, but at that point in his career i wish he walked away like Bill did, give the young hungry coordinator the reins. but that was my 1st season watching, so as a 6 year old the only thing i knew was we won!!! only in hindsight do i make this statement. that alternate reality must be pretty sweet tho
Could’ve sworn you drop this video already.
New beef history ideas:
- MMA scene vs Politicians
- Indycar split
Welcome back Will, long overdue I might add!
Nothing to do with the video but I severely miss the jersey colors the 49ers had in the early 2000s
T.O. is absolutely a hall of fame worthy player who could do some absolutely amazing things. He was also just an absolute pain because of his outsized ego and seemed to be always looking for somebody to piss off and fight with.
Dennis Rodman was a less problematic player.
T.O...... One of the few people where you could build an entire season with multiple episodes of BEEF! Beef with Jeff Garcia, Mariucci, Donovan Mcnabb. Andy Reid, Eagles, Tony Romo, Jerry Jones, H.O.F. and Skip Bayless.
I'm siding with T.O. with any beef against Skip Bayless. No questions asked.
I'm in need of a new Bois vid
My best guess is that it’ll be something from the early to mid 2000’s that happened to involve extensive media coverage.
In the Vikings doc when he talked about Randy Moss’s pretend mooning from the 2004 playoffs, he made a comment about how the media climate in the 2000’s was unique.
He gave examples of a couple wild things that happened in the 70’s that nobody cared about, and commented that if the mooning happened today, that the news cycle flips over every week and people would stop talking about it real quick.
And like in the Falcons doc, he said “but that’s a story for another time”.
Old 49er fan here. This video brings a lot of mixed feelings, memories. Coach Mariucci did inherit a roster with some great stars. But it was an aged roster and the wheels fell apart. Terrel Owens early on showed promise. He'd of course follow through and become a true star.
There is no doubt Owens was an amazing WR. One of the best ever in that position. He stayed pretty healthy, he balled great for several teams. He was a competitor. But man was he a headache for every team he was on. Even throwing his own QBs under the bus.
Apparently, TO, as a child, lived across the street from his father. He did not know that it was his father. You know how he found out?
He was flirting with the neighbor girls across the street when he was like 10 or 11 years old. So their hand was forced, because they were his SISTERS. I'm serious. THAT is how this man found out his absentee father, was in fact, his neighbor. Hitting on his sister, that he didn't know as his sister, and ergo, finding his father. Yes. I'm serious.
So I can't condone a lot of what he's done, but MY GOODNESS that he accomplished what he did is nothing short of miraculous. What a demented childhood. I know a lot of these guys come from tough backgrounds with absentee fathers, and I feel for them. But the kind of psychological damage this situation would do to a child...
So when T.O shouted "I love me some ME", it makes a lot of sense. His own father didn't, and his Mother was willing to expose him to that. How can you NOT be exceptionally insecure.
Lots of recievers are primadonnas but don't get ridden out of town. The fact that he got dumped time after time says more about him than anything he says or does on the football field.
To your point, Jerry Rice was not always the easiest guy to get along with yet the 49ers never even considered trading him or letting him walk until he was way past his prime. Then you have guys like Lawrence Taylor who were just a tornado and again, Giants were never trading him. TO, who was immensely talented, just kept getting pushed out. I don't think he's a horrible guy but when you're as talented as him, Randy Moss falls into the same category, but teams would rather get rid of you then put up with you, then you are a huge problem. That's not saying others weren't also part of the problem but you are a major contributor to it.
@@jamesmarshall6619it’s an old saying we will put up with your drama as long as your producing
They hated him and maligned him and cheated him but still used him… tells you everything you need to know and is representatively symbolic societally.
@@trollthumpermicnastywitit2001 ??? I think you are a pretty confused human being. Your statements, if serious, are all absolutely wrong, like objectively no room for debate wrong. If that's what you believe, that says more about you and your complete lack of understanding of the world around you then anything in actual reality.
Thank you
6:45 That was too perfect lol
Finally. Some more football beef
There are misunderstood NFL receivers who were labeled divas during their career.
There was no misunderstanding about TO.
I really appreciate the mini Dune references.
I respect the hell out of Jerry Rice but that's quite a humblebrag - I guess my longevity and success hasn't allowed the others to develop.
Also, very true. Even today with the game setting new passing records and an extra game a year, his numbers are still godly by any measure, and seemingly won't ever be touched. I dont say never will be touched, because the leagues all about changing rules to water down the game, so probably one day
11:06 the Dallas beef.... "man, Tony and Jason stayed up till 2 in the morning in Tony's hotel room drawing up plays without me."
“As 28 year old rookie Jeff Garcia…” I had to rewind that to make sure I heard it right.
Oh yeah and that due in part to playing in the CFL for a couple of years before making it in the NFL.
Never thought I be so early to a beef video. 💀💀💀💀 8 minutes ago
i read TO's book awhile ago, his origin story stems from - sleeping with his mouth open on a team bus ride and waking up from having a teammate spit a loogie in his mouth and everyone laughing at him. forget if it was in middle or high school but he was a scrawny uncoordinated unconfident kid at the time, and became an absolute beast.
What's the music y'all use for Beef videos? I love the xylophone or whatever
Owens was never wrong about Much. Much was one of the most embarrassing examples of a NFL head coach that never gets criticized about how bad of coach he is.
T.O beef compilation otw ?
Can y'all do more UFC/MMA videos
Worst teammate ever.
TO was never in trouble with the law, beat a woman, got DUIs, or a murderer. Don't forget that
Mike Brown caught that bobbled pass and returned it for the win, I was at that game!
🐻 Dahn
OK, we're close this time... what made Donovan McNabb finish his career Untitled?
Basically this guy managed to screw up three of the most iconic franchises in NFL history as talented as he was
The craziest thing to me is TO could of been even better if he didn’t have beef with anyone
T.O had a problem with everybody.
one the goats
"That's my teammate" WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. TO is a narcissist weirdo!
28 year old rookie Jeff Garcia 😭😭😭😭
How did TO even catch a ball 🏈 with that crazy eye 👁️
Why does it feel like the only series y’all still do is beef history and rewinds?
Those two and Prism are literally the only things this channel has released in over three months.
I really wish they'd bring back Untitled and Collapse, there were still plenty of good subjects for those.
You did a one about McNabb and Owens but Jeff Garcia endured Owens the longest for five years from 99 to 03.
Jerry Rice’s quote summarizes this whole video
Seifert went to Carolina and wasn't with a flying F
Every place he went, people regretted it
KIDS WAKE UP SECRET BASE JUST POSTED!!
I love TO but to me, he was just like any receiver in that he’s happiest when he’s the reason why the teams wins and annoyed when he’s not the focal point of the offense. That’s just how a lot of receivers are wired, for better or worse.
So a player was acting like a damn fool on the field and a coach tried to hold a grown ass man accountable. That’s not beef that’s just a half of fame talent who is immature to this day.
TO had beef with almost everyone. Even the Pro Football Hall of fame committee to tge point that he didn't even show up to his own Hall of fame induction ceremony and decided to have it at his old High school
TO is great but let his antics overshadow his game and that should NEVER happen as a player in sports. Such a force and people only remember a couple celebrations, him working out in his driveway like a tool, and beefing with mcnab for pretty much no reason. Shame
Bummer.
Before there was Antonio Brown, there was Terrell Owens.
Late 90s early 00s..when San Francisco was a beautiful city.
Please do a beef history of Jermaine Oneal and Artest also I think a Drake vs. Kendrick would be cool but I know it’s not sports related
I would like to see the beef history between Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau.
Sad…TO was a great player and how he played in the Super Bowl with a broken leg against the Patriots was amazing…but I wish he would move on from these beefs since it takes away what he did on the field.
Do 2006 Orange bowl reminder
mariucci was a horrible coach, they relased rice and kept Mariucci. Rice later lead a team to a AFC championship game and super bowl appearance these were the last of the days of keeping coaches around
3:35 Roll Tide
George Teague is quite lucky that Jackie Harris slipped. He might have been put on the shelf for a while.
This was like the vegan imitation beef
How bout for a episode- "How Tobias Harris and his Uncle or Dad was it? convinced us and Philly how he should get paid so much. And how it's gone since then".
Just when I thought 49ers were going to pay their best WR since TO, they gave it to the Zion Williamson of wideouts (Deebo) and will let father and son reunite (Aiyuk and Tomlin). Hope I'm wrong 🤞🏼
Do Calvin Johnson vs ford family, Steph curry wife vs female reporter, Jordan vs Pippin
"Systematic racism is obviously the biggest deal"
LMAO
Never understood why they hired Marriucci in the first place, he coached one year at Cal and went 6-6, at no point ever under his coaching did I think they were going to win a. Title with him… as for TO, the greatest toxic teammate ever, you need your QB thrown under bus, TO is your man…
Now that his son is with the 49ers, let’s see how this pans out.
T.O. still has B.O.
The origin story of a villain: Terrell Owens
Beef: TO vs Child Support and Credit Card Companion
THE MOOCH
11:07 who is to spraying with water here?
Guy just had mental issues
I agree with t.o. its about winning. And you are mot to let ip when having a lead
"28 year-old rookie Jeff Garcia" .....WAT?!?!
He played in Canada first I think. Technically Kurt Warner was a 27yo rookie with the Rams in 1998
Sucks the 49ers got rid of Mooch, cuz I think they did in order to try and keep TO but they had to trade him anyway.