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Show Notes:
Want to raise the dead without raising the cost of your deck? We’ve got you covered! This episode Gaurav Gulati joins us to bring you our budget “Undead Unleashed” Innistrad: Midnight Hunt precon upgrade guide. We’ll show you which 10 cards to add (for around $30) and which 10 to exhume, in order to turn this deck into a thrifty necromancer’s dream!
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![Undead Unleashed Upgrades | Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver [Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Precon] Budget & Bling](/img/n.gif)
Full list of changes:
IN:
Plague Belcher
Bastion of Remembrance
Kels, FIght Fixer
Carrion Feeder
Gravecrawler
Master of Death
Liliana's Standard Bearer
Noxious Ghoul
Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Bolas's Citadel
OUT:
Curse of Unbinding
Eater of Hope
Gleaming Overseer
Havengul Runebinder
Liliana's Devotee
Ruthless Deathfang
Spark Reaper
Hour of Eternity
Overseer of the Damned
Stitcher Geralf
A true hero
You're a godsend dude
Thanks, mate
Thank you my dude
Thank you ❤
Really enjoyed Gaurav on this episode! You could really see the emotion when talking about losing his star mummy in the End Step
I was SO bummed when he died. Final turn of the game and I was like "Well I'm not going to win this game, but maybe I can kill someone on the other team!" Then I basically rolled snake-eyes into a critical fail. ;_;
Wilhelt’s story is interesting, he rose from the grave by himself, and then raised an army of zombies to impress Gisa, cause he has a crush on her
Is there a link to lore like that? I'm interested in learning more.
He was a douchebag in life and a douchebag still in death but I can say one thing about him: he's dedicated lol. His literal desire brought his ass back to life and he's just carving up the countryside for her affection. And Giza can't even be bothered to remember his name, she cares so little lol.
Definitely an oddball story but it's one of my favorite in recent memory. I can just imagine Geralf giving her shit when he shows up with an army on his doorstep.
King Simp in the Unflesh. Awesome commander though 🤗
Sounds like comic Thanos.
My man simping even after death
With Rooftop Storm and Bolas's Citadel on the bf, you still have to pay life equal to the cmc to cast zombos from the top of the library. You can't combine alternate costs.
Pretty sure rooftop storm in Bolas’s citadel do not work together. Because you can’t choose multiple alternate costs to cast something.
They do not work together.
I thought the same thing.
That is correct, they do not work together. (judge)
Future Sight / Magus of the Future* would work with it though.
Yeah that was a head scratcher.
Gaurav has a really easy to listen to voice and great banter! I think he should get featured more!
Agreed, I wouldn't hate a rotating schedule if various hosts
I think Havengul Lich is just superb added value, enabling that relentless strategy. Another card I’d consider is Fact or Fiction which may as well read “draw 5” because opponents may not have any good choices. Songs of the Damned may be a bursty ramp option when you need lots of mana, and Dictate of Erebos will ensure your opponents can’t maintain a creature presence. And she’s not a zombie but the aristocrat function of Ayara is difficult to ignore.
I'm so hyped about this deck ! Here are some other ideas :
- Teferi's veil (prevents your unblocked decayed zombies from dying - stack the effects so that TF triggers first)
- Stitcher's supplier
- Bloodline pretender can become crazy fast with the zombie + tokens
- Crow of dark tidings : flying zombie + mill
- Murderous rider is a great removal candidate
- Bone dancer : fun zombie, specially with flying/menace/deathtouch
- Phyrexian ghoul : another free sac outlet on a zombie
- Draugr necromancer : graveyard hate + shenanigans with snow lands
- Endling : awesome flexible zombie
- Gravedigger : I was surprised this one wasn't in the deck
- Liliana's reaver : great zombie too
- Species specialist : yummy card draw
- Tormod the desecrator
- Undead warchief : sweet lord
- Elvish dreadlord : zombie b. wipe
- Fallen shinobi for shenanigans
- The Scarab God : OP
- Geth, Lord of the Vault / Grave Titan / Pontiff of blight : for lategame
- Lazotep plating : awesome card, even more in a zombie tribal
- Sudden substitution : I take your awesome spell and give you a decayed zombie
- Enter the god eternals : kinda janky but on theme
- Necrotic hex : pricey "b. wipe" but added value
- Bad Moon : for the flavor :D
- Tombstone stairwell : broken in many yard decks... even more here
- Eldrazi monument
Enjoy your zombies tribal decks, folks !
@Olivier Debilde Great suggestions there mate
And Minions’s Murmurs for card draw!
I forgot Zombie Master for the flavor :D
That's a great list of suggestions.
MORE GAURAV! Absolutely crushed it. I would love to see him play some commander!
You may get your wish VERY soon. Stay tuned!
I thought that was my friend gurauv sharma he liked magic in HS and was also indian ....?
Poppet Sticher is just very good value for this deck. When you flip it, it turns all your zombies into 3/3s without decayed.
Also Altar of Dementia is just another sac outlet for you to turn your decayed zombies into mill after they attack.
Extra bonus of going infinite if you have them both with your commander
Yeah this is one of the things I changed with my deck. It works really well.
Mix it with the blue zombie that makes a zombie every time a creature gets milled and you may have infinite mill and enough creatures to block with
I actually have this deck. Even before it came out. With The Scarab God as my commander and 85% of the cards. Funny!
SAME!! It was one of the first commander decks I ever made. I saw the deck list spoiled and I was like no way. 😂
Fuck the same, u two are my zombie comrades
What if I told you I made a deck similar to this with Grimgrin at the helm!
@@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING hahaha same here this was my first commander deck I made on mtgo like three years ago
Yep! Scarab God deck owner here too!
I got this precon just for the value, tried it out, it's really good. Love some of the suggestions! Unexpectedly figured out what I want my Dimir deck to be!
Bought this as my first commander deck after playing online exclusively for the past couple years. Hope my lgs is friendly to new players, looking forward to upgrading this deck. Thank you for this video!
Loved Gaurav! Great addition to the team. Can't wait to see more from him in future content.
Great video, just because you ask if there's anything you missed, there weren't any prices for the cards/how much the adds were in total. Love the budget upgrades in general, always watch when I get a new precon!
Wand of Orcus is such a good upgrade. Put it in a decayed Zombie and make new ones!
Great video! Another good inclusion to the deck would be wake the dead! Gets you enter, dies, and sacrifice triggers and a great combat trick that can blow people out
This really helped me build the deck with cards I already have and I made my own upgrades from your advice. Thanks!!
47:21 Eternal Skylord vs Gleaming Overseer argument is weird here. Typically i would agree that flying would be better in most cases, however your tokens have decay, they will only have one good attack in them before they die, so any evasion is good and they can't block so the flying is less relevant. With all the lords and cards like Death Baron giving deathtouch menace will be the better option. If they absolutely want to attack they need to do it with two things and you will take one of them if not both most of the time. But more importantly 5 mana for is a ton compared to 3 mana, especially with all the activated abilities running around and multi casting gravecrawler. Go with the cheaper effect or cut both.
I'm so glad I got this deck. I feel like ashnods altar is a good auto include to get those sac triggers
Here's a fun interaction a lot of people have glossed over. When a decayed creature doesn't die after attacking, and it is sacrificed at end of combat, it is still considered an "attacking creature". Death tyrant replaces decayed zombies with healthy ones, regardless of if they're blocked
Wow, that's a really good upgrade!!!
"If you have Rooftop Storm and Bolas's Cidadel..."
Lordy... what was everyone playing against you doing?! Lol
Laughing at them and/or calling a judge for it doesn't work together.
They really need to put a judge on staff so they can avoid these embarrassing and irresponsible mistakes
@@marquisdcarabas Agreed!
Also the combo they mentioned didn't require Bolas Citadel at all, it was just graveyard recursion
@@marquisdcarabas they have one already (for during games).
Cool Jimmy is one of the funniest commercials I have ever seen, everyone's reaction when he enters the room is hysterical 🤣
Yo Gaurav was absolutely perfect. I hope to see him on future episodes!!
I built Eloise as the commander and swapped out about 10 cards! Still very much a Zombie tribal, but I leaned more on sacrifice and tokens to get more investigating- so much fun! I can't wait to see this one played!
Thanks for the show guys. Great suggestions as always. I've been working on the deck this weekend and lowered the curve with a lot of festering type zombies. Added artifact ramp (even 3 mana cost rocks as they are still cheaper than the commander). My (extra) 2 cents for the 10 cards: graveborn muse, patriarch's bidding, stitcher's supplier, scourge of nel toth, ghoulcaller's chant, zombie infestation and last but not least Sidisi undead vizier to tutor for rooftop storm or any other win con. All very much on team, graveyard filling, card-drawing, recurring type-of-cards.
'on team' = 'on theme' lol #teamzombie!
Great video. Had no idea what I bought, just saw zombies and my favorite color blue (not to play, just the actual color, lol) and was like "Fuggit, I'll get it". Played Commander once or twice in the past with a kaldheim commander precon and did aight. Feel like this will be the one to fully pull me into Commander and get me engaged with it.
Never heard of these guys before but i loved it! So much fun, vibes for days!!
Anyone else like Ayara in this deck btw?
Definitely itching to buy this and put Varina back together now. Great video as always guys!
I played this deck right out of the box with my commander group and ghouls night outed an Elesh Norn... You shuddered in the video but I can confirm, it works very well. Also got a Nyxbloom ancient so all in all it was a very impactful card.
I absolutely love your ads - you’re a master Sir!!
Appreciate the love! We work hard on them. :)
Great build fellas. Love the content. Good luck on your endeavors to White Castle.
😂🤣
I got this thing for a precon league (five subs a week), and I am shoe-horning all the amass stuff from War Of The Spark into it. I have gotten Dreadhorde Invasion to pop off only ONCE at a FNM a week after the set came out; and I am chasing that dragon whenever I can.
Absolutely love the ads, well done!
Thank you!!
I really enjoyed this episode, 1 thing that i dont agree with however is cutting gleaming overseer. There a quite a few effects that can bring back creatures as zombie tokens and when you pick gleaming overseer, its gonna give itself hexproof and menace too which makes it a pain to remove.
When talking about the stats, you guys mentioned Damnation and I couldn't help but notice you forgot about its reprint in TSR.
I miss seeing you on the Broken Pack D&D Saving Throw Show Gaurav!
Awww I miss doing it! But I'm so busy now that I definitely wouldn't be able to put 100% into it. I'm sure I'll be back on a D&D stream some day. :)
Fun fact, rooftop storm grants an alternate cost for casting zombies, and citadel grants an alternate casting cost... you cannot use rooftop storm's alternate while casting with citadel
Although this may not be budget, I wonder what people would think about including poppet stitcher/factory and an ashnods altar in the deck as well. Can effectively go infinite and mill the whole table with Wilhelt out.
There's also a super jank idea that I've been dying to see happen in game: Zombie Master along with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth! All zombies (including enemies') have swampwalk and all lands are now also swamps!
Your "jank" idea isn't even jank! Regenerate is a strong ability on its own, so Zombie Master isn't a bad card to be playing even without Urborg. If you're spending the money for Urborg already, you should also grab Cabal Coffers. All those cards are good on their own, and if you can make your zombies unblockable, that's even better.
I added a few infinite combos to my Wilhelt deck. The deck already has Diregraf Captain, which combines with Poppet Stitcher and a sac outlet to ping infinitely. Blasting Station + Gravecrawler is a classic as well.
Ghoulcaller Gisa is a great add in. Sac a normal zombie token to make two more and a token with decay
Poppet stitcher on the flip side gets rid of decayed and makes your tokens 3/3 instead of 2/2
Hope to see more of Gaurav. Good episode!
And I hope to see more of you, friend. Thank you!
Them not talking about Acererack is a crime. True Infinite with Rooftop Storm that wins the game on the spot.
Probably because is just boring, imo.
Careful around these command zone folks, the words "infinite" and "combo" set a huge portion of them off
Yeah that's boring
And it's Acererak! Such cool flavor
@@Oopsall wym, what wrong with infinite combos?
If you use ghouls night out you can use ghouldcaller gisa to sac for a ton of zombies and if you got death triggers you gain stuff on top of that for them dying.
Gaurav was a fantastic cohost! Get him at the commander table for sure.
What about Poppet stitcher? When you have 3 tokens turn it to factory, all tokens are now base 3/3 and no longer have decayed.
I also expected wand of Orcus.
Way to be with the Blood Bowl plug. Nice deck break down.
YES KELS IVE BEEN WAITING, I bought this precon to upgrade my kels deck!!!
Rooftop Storm only changes the amount you pay, the CMC of the card is unchanged so you'll still have to pay the life with Bolas' Citadel as it says you pay life equal to the CMC of that card to cast the spell. Unless I missed something.
Unbreathing horde and relentless dead perfect fits for this it's what I ran with most of this list not long ago lost my deck right before this was announced
i personally added poppet stitcher because of its backside and i keep the gleaming overseer
Oooh, Gaurav is excellent!! Love your suit/shirt too, bet that goes over well on date-night :D
Gaurav was great in this. Agree that it would be fun to see him play commander
If you have a card that makes token loses ability( like poppet factory) , and you have wilhelt and a alter, can you get in a infinite lope?
I am surprised that rise of the dread marn was not included as a add to rebound from a board wipe. I have it in my esper zombie deck and it does work especially with this new commander.
Great video. Wondering what people's thoughts are on Command the Dreadhorde in this deck? Seems like fun if you're gonna be milling a bunch.
*YES!* i waited so long for a new episode of Bruce and Silas! 28:04
Is there a printed list of what the adds are and removes? I listen while I drive and hard to write it down.
"Humans are just zombies that don't know it yet." LMAO 😂
This precon helped my already made zombie deck out so much
What happens if you use ghouls night out with a resurrection spell so when it dies it returns to your battlefield.
Does it come back without the decayed or will it not work because it isn't your creature
Guarav was a great host! Definitely want to see more of him.
I added Sidisi, Undead Vizier w/ Dawn of the Dead. That can create a tutor engine that allows you to get your win condition out that you don’t have to reveal. Especially with Rooftop Storm. I also changed the land base to Snow-covered lands and incorporated Narfi Betrayer King in the deck to buff the zombies and provide more reanimation. Zombie Trailblazer w/ Blanket of night is useful because it allows you to use the decayed zombies to make the beefier zombies unblockable w/swampwalk
I put narfi and scarab god in there..... epic!
Poppet Stitcher. Super good. I would have leaned into the token creation more. Champion of the perish
Thanks for releasing this the day after i got it :)
Hate to break to you guys but Bolas Citidel and Rooftop storm doesn't work like that. Rooftop storm doesn't change the mana value of Zombies, it merely provides an alternate cost. Bolas Citidel still makes you pay life
That being said I'd still use it in this deck, you can get a lot of mileage out of this
I rebuilt this with a tasigur theme, using poppet stitcher! I love this deck lol
Rooftop Storm + Bolas's Citadel doesn't work the way you guys said here. Bolas's Citadel says you pay life equal to the Mana Value. Rooftop Storm doesn't change the MV of the cards, it just gives you an alternate casting cost of 0. Not that Citadel is bad, just doesn't work quite the way you guys said here.
Came here to say this. Thank you.
I played this deck as is and it's pretty tough. But I will definitely make some of these changes. I was already thinking about grave crawler.
Just seen this:
If you want to combine rooftop storm with bolas’s citadel then you can do so with a workaround.
The workaround only cost you 1 life per card.
You need a third piece called sensei’s divining top.
You can tap the top to draw the top card of the library then replace it with the top.
If the spell is applicable then you can cast it for free with rooftop storm.
Then you use bolas’s citadel to cast the top for 1 life, tap the top to repeat as needed.
Upgrade guide starts at 32:50
Holy shit I thought this was a joke... Over half an hour for the main topic lol
@@scarletrobin 😂😂😂
Guarav was great! Great job on the show!
Plumb The Forbidden is an amazing black card for token strategies as well...and largely overlooked, it seems
I actually just used this exact precon yesterday at a commander day at my local card shop and I managed to snag a ulamog the ceaseless hunger with ghouls night out
Great vid, want this one for sure.
Question that I have debated with my playgroup around zombie tribal. Grave Titan yes or no?
Guarav!!! Your ads are soo awesome and funny
Would gisa, glorious resurrector work instead off the card that summons a human?
The thing about undead augur is that it is not a may ability so a boardwipe could kill you! Best paired with an instant speed sac outlet.
Deathgreeter and Dross Harvester are amazing in decks like this.
well, glad I ordered this before this video came out and ratcheted up the price.
Some cards I added: Blood Artist, Plumb the Forbidden, Havengul Lich, Necrotic Hex, Wand of Orcus, Port of Karfell, Tainted Adversary, Witch's Cottage
I kept Gleaming Overseer for this combo option: (My group is pretty casual so...)
Ashnod's Altar + Gleaming Overseer + Havengul Lich + Rooftop Storm
Alternatively, you also can do some other infinites:
Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar + Plague Belcher
Desecrated Tomb + Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar
If you're going to Bolas Citadel, a pricey but fun combo is; Aetherflux Reservoir + Bolas's Citadel + Sensei's Divining Top
Lol gotta buy this deck whenever the next set of commander decks comes out, I need so many of these cards.
How did you go through a black (and blue) aristocrats (and zombies) deck without mentioning Syr Konrad!?
So, the only thing you need to do is confirm a purchase on the 1st to enter?
given that you are moving it to zombie tribal, thoughts on including Call to the Kindred?
been waiting for this one!
Ah hell… I actually do need prescription sunglasses lol I may check out Blenders Eyewear lol the ad got me!
@38:28 Dear Jimmy Wong, I may be tired and not catching stuff correctly but please explain me how phyrexian arena will go infinite with gravecrawler? Not to mention that you will be casting it from your graveyard not from your library. Phyrexian altar on the other hand will work with it allowing to go infinite. Please buy someone a cookie if it was mistake on your side. If I am in wrong please accept my humble appologies and apoint reasonable punishment :P
Gaurav! your ads are the best in the business
Welp. Im gonna buy this and use grimgrin corpse born, I used to have almost this same deck and im excited
Surprised they didn’t mention Ashnod’s Altar for the mana and free sac outlet
But I’m even more surprised about a lack of Acererak and Poppet stitcher which go infinite
46:15-47:03 the lower third says ‘Gleaming Overseer’ the whole time ‘Eater of Hope’ is on screen
Endless Ranks of the Dead was original Innistrad, not a Commander product.
Now Wilhelt makes a great Zombie Tribal commander but I think where his real strength lies is in an Aristocrats strategy focused on sacrificing zombies for value.
Also eloise for some great combos, the only problem is that the are ZOMBIES! (My favorite tribal after cleric)
What about "Wand of Orcus"? I think it fits great into this deck. Greetings from Germany!
I had Varina that helmed my zombie deck. TBH Endless Ranks can go out of control really quick.. esp when you run veld. orrery and you drop it on the turn before and you end up with 6 2/2s one time. Game ended that turn :D
I love the thought of a zombie Elesh Norn.
How do you guys feel about replacing Aetherspouts with Meathook Massacre?
So cards i would add are phyrexian altar (for degenerate reasons aka. gravecrawler looping onto itself), jadar and poppet stitcher. Also meathook masacre is looking really interesting as a boardwipe in this deck if one where to go the aristocrat route
Would you think apocalypse demon would be good in this deck