Vampire Precon Upgrade Guide | “Blood Rites” | Lost Caverns of Ixalan | The Command Zone 576
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Looking to give your precon more bite? Then don’t miss this upgrade guide for “Blood Rites,” the Orzhov (white and black) vampire deck from The Lost Caverns of Ixalan. See which 10 new cards should join the legion, and which 10 you can drive a stake through to make room, all for under 50 bucks! With our help, you’ll conquer your next Commander game in no time.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:04:01 - "Blood Rites" Precon Upgrade
00:04:18 - Clavileño, Fist of the Blessed
00:07:12 - Carmen, Cruel Skymarcher
00:09:19 - “Blood Rites” Deck Stats
00:18:05 - Who Should You Run as the Commander?
00:22:47 - Reprint Value
00:27:53 - Notable Reprints
00:33:00 - Best Cards in the Deck
00:37:29 - Upgrade Goals
00:41:39 - Cards to Add
00:53:51 - Cards to Take Out
01:07:54 - How the Deck Plays
01:12:13 - To the Listeners
01:15:22 - Damen and Elden Ring!
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What do you think of this precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
Great card to add Legion's Landing.
Surprised Drana and Linvala don't get mentioned for this. Can be really strong with edicts and extra sacrifice strats.
One card that I think should've made the cuts list is Promise of Aclazotz. While the effect itself can be strong for 2 mana, it specifies that you have to sacrifice a non-demon creature which is a terrible combination with Clavileno since he turns the creatures you want to sacrifice the most into demons
just wanted to add that while Vona can only destroy stuff during your turn, it is not sorcery speed.
@@DownAtrociousI disagree; it basically allows you to double up on Clavileno's effect (sans the card draw). You only get his trigger once a turn at most, so having another way to turn your 1/1 vampires into 4/3 flyers is crucial.
I wanted to say a sleeper card for this deck is liliana's contract, because it literally just turns your vampires into demons for free without changing their names and you can win your game on upkeep as a pretty easy win, and if your opponents decide to remove the demons, then you've just gained a free flying 4/3 and you draw a card
That is really funny and definitely not something I thought about for this deck. Great catch!
another one I'm trying out in this deck is Haunted One, pretty good slot for this commander @@damenlenz
It will not trigger because you have to have four different names for the demons which the demon tokens have all different names
@@Magickingdom364 that's true of the tokens, but the non-token vampires become demons as well, on the attack trigger
@@Magickingdom364 Clavileno has "Whenever you attack, target attacking Vampire that isn't a Demon BECOMES a Demon in addition to its other types." This means that when you attack with your Vampire creatures, they become Demons after your attack phase, and therefore Liliana's Contract will trigger on your next upkeep because you now control 4 or more Demon creatures (in addition to your Vampire creatures) with different names. You will, of course, be a target, but your opponents must decide to either let you win the game, or receive free 4/3 tokens.
Blade of the Bloodchief is absolute powerhouse in Elenda
Honestly I used her and the new God card that triples tokens, then sacked her with bartolomeo for like 45 tokens, then gave Carmen +90/90 😅
Yes elenda has been my main deck since 2018 and there blade of the blood cheif is one of like 5 cards that have never left it.
So excited for the video! Vampire is my favorite creature type and Orzhov is my favorite color pair so I was thrilled to see this deck!
Vampires are the best. OG Innistrad is where I got my start and I've been in love with vampires ever since!
Last time I played this deck, Heirloom Blade actually did a lot of work for me. I kept attaching it to tokens that would turn into a vampire demon.
You wouldn't think that Vampires would have Cross synergy! (ba-dum tish)
10/10 🤣
I for one appreciated this joke
I have to hard disagree with the take that Butcher slows the game down and doesn't close things out. You are already going to be sacrificing creatures, the deck is designed to do that regardless if butcher is in it or not, so when he hits he immediately gives you a way to clear out opponents boards so you can get your vamps through to finish. Saying butcher just slows the game down is like saying one-sided boardwipes slow the game down.
I swapped it out for a grave pact, alternatively dictate of erebos, does the same thing way quicker
@bryden5243 why not all 3 😈
@@simplyprism5854 because butcher is super high on curve and will be a dead card in your hand if you draw it in the first 6 turns. Grave pact and dictate both can drop pretty early.
@@bryden5243But didn't you watch the video, if you put grave pact in she won't play with you.
Because letting your opponent chose a creature to sacrifice is apparently somehow worse than straight up removal or board wipe?!?
@@cryoboy yeah people get really mad at my forced sacrifice decks because I usually have tergrid in there, and I run teysa karlov and drivnod, who both double death triggers so I end up sacrificing some fodder then I take 6-9 creatures from my opponents boards for each thing I sacrifice.
Butcher of Malakir and Blade of the Bloodchief are wild in this deck if you combine it with something like Viscera Seer to sacrifice several 1/1 white vamp tokens. Attach blade to a creature you'll attack with, use Viscera Seer to sac X tokens, you get to scry X times, opponents sacrifice X creatures, you're gonna end up clearing your opponents board and growing your creature with blade to swing for big damage and no blockers providing you had enough tokens to sac with.
Yeah Blade of the Bloodchief is insane. If it said “hey, just yours” then okay, sure, but it’s any creature, making it insane
Thank you for this video! As you mentioned in the video, the deck is already well-constructed and much harder to remove cards, for adding new cards! Great out-of-the-box Deck, your video helped me to make the cuts and upgrades needed, even if I put in some other cards, more around the combos, less good cards on their own.
Still praying for the day we at last get a Edgar Markov reprint. Sucker is over 80 dollars and its not fair that Ur dragon was reprinted but not Edgar
We desperately need an Edgar Markov reprint
It’ll probably be a secret lair. Eminence commanders were a mistake and I can’t imagine them putting him in any precon.
It's probably gonna be in a commander masters sequel
Not fair is Eddy's brand.
Out of the box, I beat my husband’s merfolk precon with only three lands.
Hell yea!!!
im in the opposite camp, my partner beat my ass with the merfolk deck (I was obv playing vamps) out of the box 😭
That's the nice thing about magic, always back and forth. :)
@@dualityofem
I appreciate, that you also mention what to take out. I feel that often these upgrade guides tell you what to add, but not what to dismiss. I wonder, how you think about crib swap and roaming throne? Especially the last one feels so amazing in any tribal deck, but is mentioned almost nowhere. Crib swap could perform great in this deck, because you can tutor it out with forerunner of the legion
Teysa Karlov will double up the card draw and token generation trigger. PLUS she gives tokens vigilance and lifelink, which is a great defence for an aggressive attacking deck. Sadly, not a vampire :'(
I'm sure there's an alternative. This deck already has Twilight Prophet (creature) and Radiant Destiny (enchantment) which both give the City's Blessing (vigilance to all creatures), and most of your tokens will emerge with lifelink right off the bat so you won't necessarily be lacking either.
@@xcprytRoaming Throne is much stronger because it adds up to all the other non diying triggers on the deck and also counts as a vampire. Very hard not to add that card in my opinion. Since you are doubling them with throne, why not triple them with teysa and give them all lifelink? You just get stupidly strong fast while also filling your hand with cards.
Just use the card in the deck to make teysa a vampire
The black Phyrexian god works just as well, but, again, not a Vampire.
@@SingerOfW does not give lifelink and vigilance to tokens. Order of best to worst for the deck - Roaming Throne > Teysa > Drivnod
I did my own upgrade a couple of weeks ago and obviously it wasnt as restricted by budget like this one however i actually took out all the same cards except blade of the bloodchief. If you can get that onto elenda for a couple of turns its crazy. I unironically took exquisite blood out and put it into my braids deck. Other cards that werent mentioned in this video are death trigger doublers or triggered ability doublers like:
Teysa karlov
Drivnod
Roaming throne
As well as additional sac outlets like
Ashnods altar/phyrexian altar
Skullclamp
Then generic cards like
Smothering tithe
Teferis protection
Esper sentinel
Overall this deck plays really well if you want vamps but dont want to be a smelly edgar player.
Plus the showcase art for clavileño is sweet in the command zone.
It felt like I was waiting forever for this one!
Good thing vampires are immortal... they wait as long as it takes 🧛♂
First thing i did with this deck was addin Vito (Thorn of the Dusk Rose). It`s just amazing that by adding so cheap and easy-get card (was in mtg starters 2021 that was sold for 6$) i get deck that can play and win against others people decks that been build from scratch. Also there are many cards than combo with Exquisite Blood and make easy 2-card combo that win`s u the game. That precon is the decks that i wanted to build custom, before they announced it. All precons are just hillariously good. Best precons we got since 2017 for sure!!
I love this precon! I haven't made a Vampire Tribal deck yet but I've been wanting to make an aristocrats deck for a while and this seems like a good starting point. If you're looking for additional sacrifice outlets beyond the obvious includes--I love Spawning Pit by the way!--I was cruising through some old cards and came across the Bloodthrone Vampire? Nothing special, but it threatens as a beater, and plays into Vampire synergies so I think I'll be throwing one in when I go to make some alterations.
I know he’s a bit slow but Edgar Markov from Vow is a good fit. He’s a lord and if/when he dies he gives you more bodies to sac and then comes back as a lord again.
He was an instant include the second I got the deck. Just the value alone is so good for him and he can bring himself back
Who would you drop to replace him with
Glad to learn about exquisit bliod + Vito because I didn't think about it ans put Vito in the deck haha.
It's like when I put bloodchief ascension in the mindflayaarrr on a whim deck which had mindcrank and didn't know it was a combo
Don't remove Exquisite Blood and add Sanguine Bond. As someone that loses to infinite combos all the time, I want that as an option.
Agreed! I went to my local game store and picked up sanguine bond as soon as I heard of it. If anything and the combo doesn’t work, it still causes your opponents to play forced decisions instead of favorable ones!
I’m adding it to defend myself from the instawins but won’t go for it right away
You should do another video where you interview the crew to ask each of them their least/favorite moment of commander on camera so far.
Man, it's been a while since I watched an upgrade guide while nodding to every single thing said about it - and about the deck I care about the most, too! Lots of cool ideas, a well-deserved Exquisite Blood cut, good pointers about how to play the deck - really can't give you people enough praise!
As for the potential inclusions, while people have already mentioned Liliana's Contract, another potentially fun Demon synergy card to include is Mark of the Oni. Control Magic effects rarely cost less than four mana, and this one might as well be permanent as long as you got the Clavileno engine going. And hey, even if you somehow don't, you can just sacrifice the creature with one of your many sac outlets, just as you often do in black-red drafts with Threaten effects.
Thank you for the kind words. Mark of the Oni is a hilarious include, I love that
I was super excited about this deck. I've been trying to build an aristocrats deck for a while, and this is the perfect shell I needed. First, I tried with Ayara, but my friend pointed out she's a Reanimator deck, which Can be similar to Aristocrats, but is not actually aristocrats. Then I tried with Alela, Artful Provocateur. She can generate a whole lot of fairy tokens and is a pretty good start for what we want with aristocrats. So far, however she hasn't really done her thing. Clavelino has the whole strategy right there on his rules text. It's pretty perfect. Definitely looking forward to playing with this decl, and the suggestions you have for it are pretty good, especially for Clavelino, while the other upgrade I saw focused more on Carmen.
In other news, I think my favorite word is... probably Counterintuitive or Counterproductive. Not exactly sure which between the two.
nice video! hope u guys at the command zone have a nice thanksgiving
First time seeing this channel, great content, super in-depth, thanks!
Clavileño is an Aristocrat deck and i love playing it just the way it is made❤ Attack, Sacrifice, Draw amazing
Been waiting for this one!
Always good to see Damen and his Tun Tavern shirt. Semper Fi
OOHRAH!!
This upgrade was exquisite
I see what you did there
Clavy wants a bunch of cheap vampires to get the ball rolling asap, and any
Thought so too... only 3 one drops in the precon. For me it feels way too slow against pirates/dinos and I don't have too much money to complete pave the deck, cuz of it's slow mana curve (and even mana 4 creatures don't bringt sufficient impact)
I actually run Carmen as the commander for the deck and threw in some fun sac outlets; vampric rites, ashnods alter, transmorgrant alter. The deck definitely needed some removal. I threw in Vito on a whim and didn’t realize that was an infinite. Some of the cards they wanted removed I kept in simply cause I think they make some of the decks stronger like butcher
Invasion of new capenna would be a nice removal piece
I really like invasion of new capenna, that card has done work for me
Cavileno is great, he's going straight into my Edgar deck
I got the set of 4. All are fantastic.
I like that blade of bloodchief so much that i also got tarrian soulcleaver i also went heavy on sac outlets and token multipliers i swapped kindred boon for kindred dominance its a better kindred for the deck. I also put bartolomeo in the command zone a couple games and it was OKAY the other two are better but it was nice having a 2 drop sac outlet in the CZ though
Damon!!!!!! Love to see the team!
YAY! I was waiting for this upgrade so much ahaha
I'm allways using Blade of the bloodchief with elenda the Dusk Rose. I get her big early sac her and get many Tokens to use my sac outlets just more.
Definitely the best vocal "stats" we've had in a while plus the added joke which was great. Did miss out on shouting "i'm a stat man!" In the tune of scatman. I still walked away happy
Hey guys, Vona is restricted to your turn, it's not sorcery speed... she is always worth it. It's permanent removal vigilance, so always attacks and always removes a permanent during the attack... Also makes blocking always a bad deal.
YEEEEAAAAA WE LOVE DAMEN
This is also the deck I bought to upgrade, v good taste 👏
One hour into this episode and I just noticed his T-shirt. Semper Fi brother.
OORAH!!!
I built it in a different direction, but it's great to see different ideas from someone else.
Also my favorite word is potpourri. I think it's such a fun word to say and it easily rolls off the tongue. I literally don't even know what potpourri is and intend to keep it that way.
Very cool and unique choice, I respect that. I won't ruin your fun and tell you what it is
@@damenlenz Thank you I appreciate that. From context, all I know is that it smells nice, joyfully something like cinnamon.
Conversely, I think pickle is a gross word. It even had the word, "ick" in it.
@@Dev.L Bro im all in for some pickle potpourri
That’s such a good point about Grave Pact and Exquisite Blood. The first turning the game into a slog, and the second putting a giant target on your head.
I absolutely would slot Vito and Sanguine Bond as I’d be so excited to finally have the combo, and I’d be dead before I could get the rest of the combo.
Such a good point that we can’t win if everyone KNOWS we are the threat!
This is not smart, always play the better cards. However that combo is pretty slow and not that good without something like academy rector to tutor the missing piece into play immediately
@@SPACEB0YZER0 thanks for your input, I haven’t started building the upgrade yet. Though I’ve purchased many cards for it and actually might go with Carmen, though that’s a “feels bad” deck to be sure. I hate other players making me sac my stuff.
@@SPACEB0YZER0My goodness please do not always play the better cards. Otherwise we’d all be playing cEDH. That’s fine if you want to do that, sure, but enjoying precon/precon+ games or mid power games and building for that is just as valid.
And that often means not playing the better cards.
Vampire Nocturnes.. those 4/3’s become 6/5’s as long as top card is black
Nice new precon
i LOVE Exquisite Blood. I have an Arena deck built especially around that card.
Exquisite Blood is so much fun
Everyone seems to forget that exquisite blood also got reprinted in a jumpstart set
I absolutely forgot about the jumpstart reprint
Carmen looks great against treasure token decks
She absolutely bonkers against treasure decks! I'm really enjoying playing her right now
I know it's a bit much in terms of money but Roaming throne is huge for this. It doubles both the attack and death triggers from Clavileno
Exquisite blood was reprinted in Jumpstart. Prof forgot about that too.
Totally forgot about that reprint
rachel and damen together is awesome. i don't even want to play this deck, but you've got my two favourite people, and it was such a treat. my favourite word is actually a japanese word, it's hisashiburi (久し振り) which is just one word that kind of means 'long time no see'. i just love the way it sounds
Collude is my fave word 🙏
Hi. Kindred Boon stan here. Although I wish it were a little cheaper, I'm never taking Kindred Boon out. It's basically board wipe protection for your broken non-token creatures. Kindred Boon paired with Butcher of Malakir is nasty in the late game and has won me a couple games against my friends who have been playing Magic for longer than I have. I'm also pretty sure the divinity counters stay on the creatures that already have them even after Kindred Boon is picked off.
I've been enjoying this deck. I was playing it last night and was working to end the game, but saw six of the ten cards right at the endthat were reccomended to cut and ended up losing.
Always play better cards if your group isn’t super casual. If power level is the issue then you can tweak the deck for that but never remove cards just because you “might” be seen as the threat
Cool, going straight into the 99 of Edgar... lol. Clavileno ain't replacing big daddy Markov ever 😂
The vampires are also conquistadors in our reality. ***MesoAmerican side-eye***
I want to see Damon’s Strefan list!! One of my favorite commanders
I just got the the deck, kindred boon isn't super great but when it comes to my 4/3 flyers. It's nice knowing they can block angels and dragons and other big flyers. Also keeping the stuff I don't want to die like my commander is good. Still I rather switch for a board protection spell in case my vampires aren't demons yet.
As for gravepact effects. I think it works in this deck just to deal with all creatures and your sacing anyway
This is my favorite deck of the 4, though it is not the strongest by far. Sure, fliers are relevant but only creating one demon per attack really slows the deck down and makes Clavileño weaker than he should have been…
I agree they didn’t suggest the throne. The throne is amazing for any deck running abilities. Multiple creature abilities are bonkers with the thrown when there is a synergy with a creature type. But honestly even with only 1 other giant in my Osgir deck I will run throne cause…multi ability trigger. *snaps fingers*
Throw in Illusionist's bracers, Strionic Resonator and lithoform engine...and you good be making 3 vampires into demons per attack
While it may not be a Vampire, I think Drivnod Carnage Dominus would be fantastic in this deck.
Favorite word? Edifice.
I’m surprised Amalia didn’t come up as an option. Great way to dig for the cards you need…or put cards in the graveyard to bring back.
Wheres the bloodthrone vampire???. Shes a sac outlet who can sac herself when she attacks if you need a flying demon on the go
I've never loved Bloodthrone in my other vampire decks but you have some good points about her in this deck. I will definitely try her out
Fav word- sardonic
I would add in both Bond and Vito as well as Mirkwood Bats
Sardonic is an excellent choice for favorite word
I really think you're sleeping on Carmen as a commander. After playing several games with both commanders Carmen performed significantly better across the board. She can return your sac ramp, creatures you lost to removal or board wipes, or creatures with etbs or death triggers (like Elenda the Dusk Rose, she does *WORK* under Carmen) so you are constantly outvaluing you opponents just out of your starting hand. Plus, once Carmen gets big enough, commander damage wins are fairly common.
Isn't Carmen too slow? Costs 5 mana and has no haste... if you don't got 200% artifacts it feels kinda slow... turn 5/6 I'm in a real pinch against dinos/pirates
What about roaming throne? Clavileño could target 2 attacking vampires, and those vampires dying would create 2 tokens and draw you 2 cards.
We typically don't talk about cards that come out in the same set as the precons because it's really hard to gage price but Roaming Throne is awesome in this deck.
I've been enjoying this deck quite a bit, roaming throne did some work in the last game I played 😂
Roaming Throne is a house
This new guy is great 👍
Why thank you!
Soo. I got this deck Because i had almost all the upgrades yall and other people have suggested! Lol
I put Ojer taq, deepest foundation in here, 3 4/3 demon vampire tokens instead of one is crazy good
Nefarious is my favorite word
Above all, I appreciate Damen’s shirt. Is Damen a Marine?
Why yes, yes I am. I appreciate your appreciating for my shirt!
Path is also one of the best White ramp cards
Great Etsy commercial!
Shuffle in some crimson vow cards, add a blood token subtheme, put Edgar Markov as the commander, you got an amazing vampire aristocrats strategy
Damen's favorite word is good. But a better word I think, is defenestration
I was so hyped when we got a defenestrate card in Midnight Hunt
My favorite word is defenestrate
My favorite word is a tie between may and each lol
Timothar, Baron of bats + Mirkwood Bats would be so sweet.
You would want to build that around Aclazotz, rather than a vampire creature token deck.
I could make a case for bringing Mirkwood bats into this precon… there’s a good synergy around token creation/sacrifice and M Bats 😛😛
Grave pact effects are very fun when you are running mass token gen vamps like me. With Ojer Taq and Roaming throne and other vamps generating tokens along with Clavileños ability i have so many vamps i sac some vamps, clear the other players boards and go on a killing spree. That being said i dont run this deck in cadual commander lol
I played this in its precon form a few times. The big issue is: you only get one trigger each turn. This is kinda slow for an aggressiv strategy.
Next: if you play Clavileno on your third turn and attack with a 1 or 2 drop, you still have nothing to attack with on turn 4 besides your commander. That feels bad and is difficult to avoid.
So overall not that aggressiv. I thought this would be a fast attacking deck, but I found it to be made for late game.
You can build your board well. Give stuff kind of protection through the dies trigger and wait until someone wipes the board, which puts you in the winning position. Now you have a full hand and a good boardstate. If you can also sac your stuff in that moment it is even better. So include as much good sac outlets as you can afford.
I am very unsure if lord affects are good in this deck. What do you think? Better to hold your own until boardwipe, or put as much pressure as possible on your opponents?
Vona can still be done on instant speed, so long as its your turn
What would a Commander version of the Slaughterhouse deck from Avecyn Restored look like? Can you provide a decklist? Make it a budget deck? Harvester of Souls, the main creature from the deck, does NOT have to be the Commander (if he even is one/can even BE one at all) but have him in the deck regardless.
46:17 I remember when Path to Exile was eight dollars. 😂
Also make the spawn token a phyrexian!
I still play edgar but just inculdet the pecon in my edgar deck :D
I'm doing the same. So many cool pieces for Edgar
God. Right now I run a White (with splash of red) deck filled with Gnomes and Golems and a bunch of token generators. That Charismatic Conqueror would be absolutely DEVASTATING to play against
which would you take out without a budget?
Sit back and listen to Rachel and Damon talk the philosophy of random things! 😂
How is roaming throne not getting added?
It's doubleing both of the commanders triggers
Value!
I love vampires
I also love vampires!
Clavileno has a lot of synergy with Liliana's Contract;
Clavileno - Whenever you attack, target attacking Vampire that isn't a Demon becomes a Demon in addition to its other types.
Liliana's Contract - upkeep trigger, If you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.
This would mean that unless your opponent chooses to target your new Vampire Demons, you can win the game in a single turn. If an opponent decides to kill them, you instead get a 4/3 white and black Vampire Demon creature token with flying. It's a win win either way.
You can also now cause a bit of chaos with Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bind, because the trigger suggests they will infinitely trigger until either Enchantment cannot target an opponent anymore, winning the game. It's even funnier if you add Bloodletter of Aclazotz into the mix, doubling all damage and life gain at the same time. 🍻
Favorite word is magnanimous
My favorite word is Juxtapose/Juxtaposition
What a good word
Elenda is still my vampire commander so he is a 99.
You can take out a land as one of the 10. If you take out temple.. which you should you have to put in a land
Their first replacement recommendation is a land.
I would love to see an elden ring UB
SAME!!!!
@@damenlenz I have an alter done by Modflyalters that is Najeela the blade blossom as Malenia it's one of my favorite cards! ☺️
When I clicked the upgraded deck link it was the whole deck and not just the replacements 😢 it's fine, but I was hoping I didn't have to pick them out.