Off-Road (FAIL): 2017 Honda CR-V AWD on Everyman Driver
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I've had three CR-V's since they came out in 1997. They are all still being driven (family heirlooms, let's say). I live in the Midwest where we get plenty of snow. I've never had an issue getting stuck. For one thing, you rock the vehicle with front wheels in line with the rear wheels, not continuously turning the steering wheels and going nowhere. You also don't slow down in numerous inches of wet snow or you will get stuck. I wouldn't say the CR-V is a fail because it wasn't made to off-road in snow or sand or mud like some other vehicles with those intended uses. The fail is your driving. Sorry, but I have to disagree with your "conclusion." It's like saying a Jeep Wrangler isn't luxurious compared to a Cadillac.
Brigid Cronin My 1999 has no problem with the snow, just turned 300,000 !!
My crv is bionic
My 09 Rav4 V6 would crush all of your cars off-road, but, yeah, this guy can't drive. I kept saying to myself "why is he rocking it at angles instead of in a straight line?" and "Why is he stopping after he just got going? What's wrong with him?"
My sentiments exactly. At the 4:00 min mark, when he started to move forward, he CUT The WHEEL. left (edit- stopping him dead, he's now plowing snow with his tires).. Always keep the wheels straight when stuck.. Even though he wanted to turn around you still want to al least create a track to do it in..
Yup seems like common sense to keep the drive wheels straight, not all the way to the left or to the right. Maybe it was intentionally lol
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chongolongos I doubt Toyota will ever response anything I do :-)
redsky 921 like a locking differential? Two guesses
He is right he was paid by Subaru as Toyota will never go that low
No, I don't think so. I have a 2016 CRV EX AWD and it really suck driving in snowy roads. Resale the CRV and go back to Rav4 although the rav4 does no handle and drive as nice as the CRV....it is solid in snowy conditions. In dry condition, the CRV rock but snow times....it suck.
chongolongos b
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"I don't recommend this, but I know what I'm doing!" Famous last words.
this guys a JOKE! yet hes making money on 250k followers. this is proof our country is filled with stuoid peoplelistening to stupid guys schilling their uneducated reviews. clickbait schilling scammer... all those links he posts he makes money on....real honest reviews huh?
I live in a climate where snow lasts 4-5 months per year. Dedicated SNOW tires are a must. This video's failure, was in not clearly identifying the difference proper snow tires can make, it had nothing to do with the vehicles' capabilities.
Unfortunately, poor driver technique also came into play here. When you're stuck in deep snow, do NOT SPIN the tires. Spin creates heat, snow melts momentarily, re-freezes, turns to ice= zero traction. Also,,, DO NOT turn the wheels side to side as you try to escape a rut. Rock the vehicle gently back and forth in a straight line, crushing the snow in front of, and behind the wheels. Once you have a few feet of flattened snow fore and aft of your wheels, you can back up to the point of resistance,,, stop,,,, then gradually forward, you'll be able to use the now elongated rut in front of the wheels, to increase forward momentum, and get out of your trap. Again,,, do not SPIN those tires, and use PROPER snow tires. Those tires are mandatory where I live.
All-season, or all-weather tires are fine for light precipatation on good roads,,,,, definitely NOT for off-roading.
This is hands down the best written instructions on how to get out of snow. Impeccable.
Go back with snow tires and go the same route....
gregnice25 whos going to pay for said snow tires?
Lv L you missed the the point. The price he pays would be Honda banning him from testing their press cars, just like why toyota banned him. Do you expect him to buy snow tires for every winter review? Who's going to reimburse him? You? Honda?
with a true all wheel drive system snow tires are not needed. all season radials will suffice that are well-rated for mud/snow traction.
Gregarious Solitudinist My 2014 Subaru Forestor XT with all season radicals would have easily handled that. Honda AWD stinks.
Roma12 radicals? If the snow is wet and you don’t have snow tires your stuck. Radicals sheesh
he doesn't know how to drive in the snow keep the tires straight and rock the car , this was hard to watch
Agreed
wouldn't it have helped to also drop the car into the lower gear. Either 1 or 2?
Ditto
Very true, go from D to R and use snow tires. Also why wasn't he wearing winter boots 🤣😂🤔
JayDuke good point it looks like somebody from Canada
oahahahahaha!!!!!!!
going down there with wrong tires, wrong shoes and no showel!😂😂
Tires are to blame for this one. I can tell that the AWD is much more active in the '17 in this video than the lousy AWD in the 16's
G V The last CR-V’s all-wheel drive system used a fixed 60:40 (front/rear) torque split when engaged and could only send power rearward if it detected wheel slip on the front axle. The new CR-V ditches this old-style system for a far more-sophisticated setup. The new CR-V’s system now calculates the torque needed and where it should be distributed based on factors like acceleration, throttle position, yaw and steering wheel angle. Unlike the old system, this new one can send torque rearward on dry pavement to aid handling. The new system should be far better on snowy roads too because it can send 57-percent more torque rearward than the old one. If those front wheels are stuck on a sheet of ice, Nagadome says the system can route 100 percent of the available torque to the rear wheels.
Read more: autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/first-drive-2017-honda-cr-v#ixzz4XhI4UYRO
Makes sense. Family member of mine has an EX AWD. The AWD is good if you mash the accelerator on snow, but it always feels lethargic. I have a '16 Mazda CX-5 AWD and it is one of the best AWD systems Ive ever had.
Could you please upload a picture of the new AWD rear differential and the old 4th gen AWD rear differential so we can compare?? Also if possible give us the part number of new rear differential. Who is Nagadome??????? Can we see more info on torque tests ? No mention of torque vectoring. It seems that torque vectoring is a standard feature on ALL CR-V models called AHA.
Panayiotis Palmiris I hope you're not asking me for that stuff lmao I just got that stuff from that website and I think a few other websites say the same thing about the new awd system. The pilot and ridgeline pretty much have SH-AWD. Front and rear torque vectoring and side to side in the rear wheels.
Fadic 4 I am adding another tech on CR-V 2017 which you forgot to mention.Agile Handling Assist (AHA) - VSA torque vectoring at last
Standard on all CR-V trims, Agile Handling Assist (AHA) uses brake
torque vectoring to improve turn-in response and corner traceability. By
applying braking force to the inside wheels during cornering at high
lateral G, the system creates a yaw moment, thus generating more turning force and reducing understeer.
I would have love to see a 2017 Subaru Outback or Forester tackle the same road. Also, I would have like to see the 2017 Honda CRV tackle that same road with snow tires.
Mister X with the OEM tires they would have had the same problem.
Snow tires would definitely make a difference.
I'm not sure about that. The Subaru symmetrical AWD system is very impressive. If the 2017 Foster gets stuck with snow tires So, would the 2017 Outback with snow tires. I've owned a 1997 Subaru and I have never been stuck in a situation that I couldn't get out of in my Subaru. Unless my tires were bald or bad.
Mister X How do you know snow tyres would make a difference?? Please show us. A great AWD system still needs to solve the following problem: overheat issues (such as install an external cooler or a rear differential with fins) and a good automatic gearbox. CVT is not a proven technology for AWD cars in high torque low gear situations, as it is knows to slip (not a gear type interlock but a friction type).
Panayiotis Palmiris Snow Tires have been proven to make a difference. But we don't know if it would still get stuck with snow tires. Even on normal pavement on a front wheel drive vehicle, Snow tires would make a difference on city streets.
Dude, stop turning the wheel constantly back and forth when you're stuck! Go straight back then straight forward even if it is inches at a time until you can gain momentum and climb over the ruts.
So nice to see that there are still such kind, caring people out there who are willing to help.
jazzygirl24100 thats the off road community, and I love them.
+JUKEBOX nissan sure if you can compared with honda civic hybrid in that snow white and copy the crv is nice to see it run in N.Y...
That's the norm when offroading.. Everyone helps!
zero snow driving skills
Zero? Speak for yourself.
Everyman Driver not zero skills in driving on the snow but definitely zero skills in choosing the right tires...
Zaur has a point , But he doesn't own the car soooo maybe thats why.
Truly you acted like you been on snow first time. Reverse back on your previous track..
I have a CR-V AWD 2017 the base model and I tested through the heavy snow it was magnificent
It was CRAZY for him to even attempt this in a CRV AWD or not. Nothing but a Subie or something with TRUE 4WD could handle these kinds of conditions. THAT SAID, it does NOT mean the CRV is a bad vehicle. It will get you through what the "MAJORITY" of individuals will be facing in bad weather. But if you like doing rec off roading your looking at the wrong vehicle. There are CERTAINLY good and bad AWD systems and the CRV is NOT meant for this type of terrain.
Keep those wheels straight when attempting to power out of a snow bank!
This guy can't drive for crap. This was a perfect example of how to dig a hole to bury your vehicle. A better driver would not have gotten hung up so easily. Experience is key here. Can't be turning the wheels so hard back and forth dude!
I'm agree with you,such incompetence driver performance. Turning wheel full in both directions without proper grip on the wheels was overkill. Also take in consideration that he do his litle trip without proper tyre speak abuot him, self confidence is not only that you need. Usual commonsense are more appropriate. Why he didnt try mustang on the same hill??
haha and then staying together idk I mean you got out
Yes, he has no off-road skills, but worst of all he drove down there, that’s lack of common sense too!
First big mistake he made was driving without tire chains. The next big mistake he made was turning the wheel while trying to go forward. What he needed to do was get some momentum, then turn the wheels.
Agreed I was watching him make almost every single rookie driver mistake and thinking um this guy has no idea how to drive in snow. He even compounded it by spinning the wheels. Does he have no idea what the lower gears do? And then there is the turning while accelerating while stuck in snow.
I learned something AFTER I got stuck in my 2014 during a blizzard. I needed to disable my stability control. It's mentioned in my manual ("In certain unusual conditions when your vehicle gets stuck in shallow mud or fresh snow, it may be easier to free it with VSA temporarily switched off"). I actually can't wait to try it 🤔🙄😁
LonerSurfer Tell me how it goes, it seems interesting!
Rahman Shafique Unfortunately I live in New Mexico and it's been a very mild winter (70 degrees today).
Of course now that I said that - a blizzard will arrive tomorrow
LonerSurfer I know. I have a Pilot and I wanted to drive it a lot this winter. It snowed 2 ft 2 weeks ago. I live in NYC. It's Mid February AND ITS 60F.
Discovered that, too, after a bad New England winter. Diabling the VSA helps if you get stuck.
I have both a 2000 crv and 4runner limited.. the hondas biggest failure is the operator...
I can't believe Toyota won't give you another 4runner to review..... I learned from this review is that the 4runner is awesome!
The stock tires the CRV comes with (as most all new cars) are built optimally as low-rolling resistant and quiet for dry, flat and smooth pavement. The CRV is not to be confused w/a real off-roader, but no SUV stands a chance with tires that aren't meant for those conditions.
Sorry you got stuck, but that snow is way too wet, icy, and deep for those all season tires. Any SUV this sized will have trouble in that stuff. :)
Justin David lol Tiguan has no probs
lmao CR-V and Honda in general has nothing to do with offroading.Tiguan FWD 2.0 failed of course.Take the Tiguan V6 4motion,and will kick even Q5 or Toyotas
Where he got stuck.. A Subaru would have made it without a problem.. Look at the video, the CR-V barely sends any power to the rear axle. It looks like FWD that sends small pulses of power to the rear.
YES you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. The tires should be WINTER TIRES NOT ALL SEASON TIRES and, that is a lot of snow. In defense of the honda crv though, there are NO LOCKING DIFFS TO USE the crv does not have a HARD CORE AWD SYSTEM like the SUBARU FORRESTER DOES. Know your limits.
My 09 Rav4 V6 has never gotten stuck in snow like this or even deep water.
Another awesome video Dave! Keep up the great work. Hard to beat the 4runners off road capability.
Yeah, the snow this winter here in Spokane is particularly crappy, even with as much as it's melted off to date. I'm not all that suprised the Honda CR-V got stuck in that slop. Still... all-season tires? You know better than that!
did you dis-engaged the vsa system? if not, you're suppose to when the vehiclenis stuck
Thanks for the video Dave... What I kept thinking when you INITIALLY got stuck... Rule #1... "When offroad traction is lost... keep the wheels straight and throttle ON."
you should know that all season tire won't cut it. I have winters on my 2005 crv and she is good even in deeper snow
What a day to meet Dave Erickson!
I'd still really like to see this review in the snow, could you try again? Also, could you have the rear camera on the back bumper facing forward so both of the wheels are visible on the same side of the vehicle in the same camera view?
This cat doesn't know how to drive. The worst thing to do ,is to gun your and engine and steer the front wheel from side to side. Next time, everyman driver ,keep your front wheel straight and rock the vehicle gently from reverse to forward and you will have a different outcome
You da MVP!!
I can tell you that my 2016 Highlander would have reacted in the same way. The first time I almost didn't make it home in a couple of inches of snow, I purchased four Blizak tires for winter. The best investment I've ever made.
Hi Dave,
I was just wondering if you are going to try this baby off road again... I am really interested to see what it can do, and sincerely, you are the only one on CZcams that really take these normal AWD to some offroad that above what any normal user would do haha. You reviews rock!
Mirko Santini me too
Kudos Dave for posting this. Its not easy to post the fail videos
Dave, I enjoy your winter adventures, even the ones that fail:)
Even when you do get stuck you make it interesting and entertaining! I really enjoy these snowy adventures.
However, another camera person outside he car to see the angles in motion would be awesome!
Thanks for your hard work.
I was planning on buying a 2017 Honda CRV, but after this video it's clear the Toyota 4 Runner is what I need to be looking at! Thanks!
These reviews are great, because you're generally showing how a car is useable and not how it's going to speed through CA canyons.
Thank you for the video, Dave. As other commenters have mentioned, and as you eluded to in your video, this was a deep and wet snow that would have required snow tires for any vehicle to make it through that day. And, no one buys a CR-V to do serious off-roading. However, it would be good to know your thoughts on the AWD system for two purposes: snowy road conditions / snowy driveways. I did notice with your cameras that at least the system was spinning both the front and rear tires all the time. Did it do that on its own or did you have to hit a button to "lock" in the AWD (like what the Rogue and Tucson have)? Does the Honda have a button for the driver to have the option to decide to be in AWD for snowy conditions or does the CR-V have to decide this? Thank you, Dave.
There is no "lock" function on the CR-V. It is all automatically done, which is unfortunate. I do prefer cars with that feature.
The 2016 Toyota Rav4 has a push button locking 4 wheel.😄
The toyota rav4 lock capability is up to 25mph . Above this it gets automatically disengaged. Also is RAV4 using CVT transmission ???? From the AWD test I have seen its AWD performance is not better than CR-Vs, they are about the same. Would be a nice add on though if a proper lock mode is offered, with a proper center differential
1. I would like to see CR-V with ESP torque vectoring.
2. Diagonal tests for CR-V
3. Fins on its rear differential or an external differential cooler..
4. Symmetrical test same as that of Forester.
CR-V was not tested in off road situations, thus Honda never saw the need to improve the rear differential cooling capacity.
RAV4's All Wheel Drive is a bit better than the CR-V. The CVT is only on the RAV4 Hybrid, otherwise the RAV4 has a 6 speed rather than the CRV's CVT. The lock capability is up to 25MPH but if you are in a situation that requires 50-50 lock, most likely you aren't going to exceed that speed. Over 25MPH the RAV4's system can still send enough power to the back.
The Mazda CX-5 I think has one of the most interesting AWD systems on the market.
A review of all seasons vs winter tires would be very helpful in letting everyone know the superiority of using the proper tires in wintertime
But they have AWD... 🤣🤣
It's crazy how well marketing has convinced people AWD/4x4 is the solution to winter weather. I tell people I choose a FWD + good Winters like WS90 over a stock All Season SUV AWD anyday for snowy/icy paved roads. Who cares if you use that AWD for the first 10secs of starting and then be underequipped the rest of the way. I run the latest Blizzaks on both my AWD SUV and FWD Van and have no problem taking my VAN up to the ski slopes if there is a need for the extra space. I wondered years ago when I sold my Subaru Outback w/ Blizzaks for a larger Family VAN (Sienna) if it would do well enough on good tires to still take it to the mountains. I was convinced the first winter I drove it with winters. A few years ago I tested it against my neighbors 2019 Subaru Accent with stock tires and the Subaru was barely faster on start but I destroyed it on braking. Why spend the money to buy such an awesome AWD vehicle and not equip it with good tires.
@45eno awd isn't the end all be all but is an extra safety precaution especially for winter. It's nice to know you have awd
But of course, winter tires are a must for any vehicle.
Snow tires needed! Studded would be even better and chains would be idea! Honda USA PR get with it! Thanks to a 4Runner! Dave got unstuck. I know what it feels like to stuck in snow! Terrible feeling, very stressful!
Those look like some bad conditions for offroading in snow.
You know the CR-V isn't an "off-road" vehicle right? CR-V is a great vehicle for what it's intended. Driving off-road isn't it.
I do like your trips to the ORV park
At least he admitted it wasn't the CRV's fault, with the tires and ground clearance combo there is no way this was going to work.
Dude...
Nice videos! Keep it up!
You need to keep a straight line when the bottom falls out, then easy rock back n forth.....!
Indeed! was waiting for this!
Driving in Snow 101 ... DON'T turn the wheels all the way over and expect to move ... and then keep doing that over and over and over. LOL
I kept saying "don't do it, don't do it, DON'T DO IT!" but he won't listen. There you go!
I do agree that the conditions were too bad for most vehicles like the CR-V to handle. However, you can see in the video how the CR-V is failing to transfer power properly to different wheels. The CR-V is front-wheel-drive bias. If it could transfer power properly, that may have helped somewhat. You still would have probably gotten stuck like you did, but a worthless AWD system doesn't help.
Holy shit...I thought u were stuck in the pond again
Thank God....Long live EverymanDriver!!
Is there any irony that this was a 4-runner that pulled him out.... the same vehicle that he put in the deep mud puddle and fortunately got out of? I love the videos! Keep up the great work!
Dave deserves 1M subscribers, he does such good job demonstrating cars. This channel is way better than stupid biased reviewers out there.
Sorry the trouble, but thanks for the honest video.
Seeing the AWD specs of 2017 vs 2016 the only difference is differential pump (maybe firmware too). More differential pump power should give less differential slippage or better lock characteristics. Also with higher ground clearance of 20cm this CR-V should have behaved better than previous generation. Honda has not added a rear differential heatsink to eliminate overheating at harsh situations. CVT does not help at low gear situations. I prefer the higher torque automatic transmission for this purpose. I still believe that Honda should sell CR-V with an external transmission cooler and a 9 speed ZF or a 6-7 speed automatic. CVT is the accountants choice.
dave I'm interested in buying the new crv , i live up in Montreal canada , I'd like to see you do another test off road but also on snow packed roads where the crv spends most of its time , love your videos keep up the good work.
Wholesome guys just driving around with windows down to get a breeze going in the heat of WA winter.
That looks like a very slippery tires.
I was always taught to keep your wheels straight when you get stuck. It's the path of least resistance, until you can get up some speed and break over the snow.
I loved this video. It was nice to see a car review that went wrong 😊
We have the 2015 FWD only CRV with studded snow tyres in winter.
This car is HOPELESS in even light snow and gets itself stuck in anything over 20 cm .
Comfortable and well designed interior and a pleasure to drive anytime other than in snow
any car would fail on such surface without snow tires... can't get the logic of this try...
Cool video despite your problem, Dave. I loved your expression at about 4:03 -- which basically said "O-blank!" :-)
.I wonder if you could try the same in off road with winter tires for CRV 2017 and see if it can make it through this valley.
Please do the off road snow test again,I'm waiting :)
Thanks
Ganesh
Great plug for an old 4Runner lol! Embarrassing moment,, but I've been there myself several times. Great to see good people helping out. I'm currently driving an 05 Chevy truck but am in the market for something more practical and economical as a daily driver. This video is great in showing the limitations of a stock crossover. The reality is...driving in unplowed snow is a crap shoot for any vehicle (especially with OEM gear), including most Wranglers.
You're really lucky with snow in that ORV Park lol first was the Toyota 4runner. This time its the Honda CR-V
Cool to see I'm not the only person that wears running sneakers in the snow. Watch for those puddles!
going off-road with stock allseason tires. BRILIANT
Who's to blame? AWD in perfect working order AND working, or the guy going off road in the snow with no snow tires? And you dare calling this BS a review?
does the doors lock automatically when you leave the car? If not how do you set up that feature?
Great video now I am looking at the 4 Runner......
TOYOTA for the win. But seriously, snow tires on the CR-V would've prevented this entire ordeal.
Considering that CRV has all weather tires on it instead of studded snow tires, I'd say it did pretty good. A damn sight better than my Chrysler would have done anyway.
Can u tell any difference with the extra power they are allowing to the rear wheels in the new awd setup? Thanks for the vid Dave! 🍺
Yes it send lots of power there at times
I'm seriously in awe of that 4Runner. They made that wet heavy snow look so effortless. I live in western NY the buffalo/Niagara are and we get a majority of lake effect snow, perhaps I should check into the 4Runner.
damn dude. towed vehicle's job to keep tow rope taught. im guessing you never really did that before?
Is this still part time AWD like the older models? I was reading online (forget where) that the new system is improved and full time(ish?) like Subaru...?
When you started getting stuck you cut the wheels to hard left to right . You should have not panicked and back up whith you front wheels sraight . I drove a last gen pilot in a snow storm last year and was sliding around . I dont know how there 4x4 works but it didnt seem effective to me . Dont know if it has been changed or not. Also you dont seem like a rugged outdoor type with your pritty yellow sneakers on , how about dressing like your giong out to do something not going shopping at the mall.
you have nice voice man!! god gave u a very good sound :D
Yeah.. Not the CRV fault. Sooo good to have good people ❤❤❤
AWD overheated otherwise Dave would not give up. just observe rear wheels towards the end. Disappointed but with fresh snow it is so much this AWD system can handle offroad. Honda should pay for a repeat. :) but this time with snow tyres.
Nice to see a video from a local neighbor. I live in Spokane and I am looking for either CRV or RAV 4 as my next vehicle.
Hmmm where are the snow tyres? I heard you said it has snow tyres mounted?
can you do this again next winter with traction controll off?
Okay, that's fun but how did you get to (drive into) your starting point in the first place?
Will you try off roading in the snow again when it is more manageable? This would be a helpful review to have.
I agree with pretty much everyone else here...snow tires would make a huge difference. I was born and raised in Syracuse, NY and we know about snow here. 4 good snow tires make a big difference. We used to own a 1st gen Forester with AWD, 5 spd manual trans, and 4 of the original Blizzak snow tires...that thing was unstopable in the winter.
I'm sorry Dave...but saying it's not the CRVs fault is kinda lame since the 1997 4-runner is kicking butt and towing the CRV through deep snow! I'm thinking the CRV's expanded size has now hampered its ability to effectively forage through the snow - I'm interested to see you do a repeat
review of this vehicle in the summer at the Spokane ORV park - hopefully it handles better. Nonetheless- great review - keep up the good work!
Hey Dave I've been watching your media every new vehicle I having exiting :)
its G.C 8.2 for AWD n 7.3 FwD Dave :)
Do u think that it does good in the snow?
Show us :)
Just a suggestion. Whenever you get stuck in this kind of situation, use your transmission to your advantage. To get out of a sticky situation, put your gears down into the lowest gear you can get it to go. When I drove for the Auto Auction, I learned this trick, and it worked very well even on Land Rovers. I have a 2007 Toyota Matrix Auto FWD, and I use my lowest gear to get out of a rut in the snow. I slowly drive nice and easy right out of the snow. I also have winter tires mind you, but even with winter tires you can get stuck. So many people I have seen get stuck even with a huge amount of snow, and they just keep on spinning their tires because they are in the high gear. I come along and give them my trick, and with a little push away they go. Just a little suggestion that could help.
REminds me of that 4Runner video when you did nearly the same thing. Guess its a testament to the capabilities of the 4Runner!
He didn't have his tongue sticking out the right way.
I have Honda CRV 2016, I live in Iceland and i Have never had any problem in Snow or very deep snow, With my honda CRV 2016. So this new Model must have some problems?
My 2010 cr-v was horrible in the snow. Winters in West Virginia require the ability to lock in all 4wheels. My Rogue has a AWD lock and I’ve been impressed with rogues ability to plow thru snow.
Never steer before applying throttle, kids. Steering in soft stuff while sitting still just creates a rut you can't get out of unless you have some aggressive tires.
Question ... of all the new cuv's mini suv's who in your opinion has the best all-wheel-drive system Toyota RAV4 / Nissan Rogue / Honda CR-V or the Mazda cx3 ???
How old is the 4Runner and was it equipped with winter tires
Wow. For an experimented northern driver, thats painful to watch. No one i know would get stuck in this situation. Wrong technique, wrong tires, wrong shoes ;)
cool videos. keep it up