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2017 Honda CR-V & Toyota RAV4 - The New Family Cars in America
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- American's have an insatiable appetite for crossovers, whereas in the past Camry and Accord used to be the best-selling vehicles in the Toyota and Honda lineup. Today, we take a look at the 2017 RAV4 SE and 2017 CR-V Touring and try to figure out which one of these family haulers is the better choice.
Both are great, I just prefer the rav 4 for some reason
Die hard Toyota fan. They're solid and hold great value. But Hondas design is pretty nice and those led headlights are so luxurious looking on the road. Also the honda has cool rear turn signals. Very Volvo like
CRV lookin like an ogre troll !!!
and the Detroit-isch abundance of kitchist chrome on the CRV?
This crv got oil dilution problem
We have a 2017 CR-V Touring, which we chose over the RAV4 because of the styling (exterior+interior), the tech, the ride, the space, and the near-luxury feel (fit and finish). Re: the fake wood, I can tell you that it meshes well with the black interior. It doesn't seem like an imitation, more like an artistic interpretation of wood, rather than a simulation. Does that make sense? Anyhoo, we love it. No regerts. ;) Great comparison btw.
I have a RAV4 SE and I absolutely love all the engine noise. I have JBL speakers so music and engine all day! 😎
Sport mode is nice.
We updated to a 2017 Rav4 Limited Four wheel drive from the 2010 model Rav4 Limited, It is a must for us as we live in northern state. We love the included TSS. It took a bit to get used to. The lane deviation alert is a bit more sensitive then expected. The radar controlled cruise control is a delight it makes highway driving very relaxing faithfully maintaining distance between you and the car ahead, braking and accelerating as needed. There are a few annoyances like the Nav controls but nothing is perfect. Overall love the vehicle.
I very much prefer the dials&buttons control for A/C to the touch screen operated one which is becoming increasingly popular in many of the latest models. It's far safer and more user-friendly.
Between these 2 I want the best combo of mpg, comfort, power, and quiet cabin. What say you?
Rav gets a huge zonk for no rear vents.
one of my bugaboos too.
Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong with both vehicles~~ Both are great picks and some of the most well-known and popular in their class. I've owned this generation RAV4 for 4 years, and I can say that it is a great vehicle, very simple and easy to drive and use, and overall great vehicle. Toyotas are like tanks, so maintenance is not going to be an issue. But again, both the CR-V and the RAV4 are probably some of the best choices when it comes to this class of vehicle.
Outstanding review. This information has been extremely valuable for deciding between the two.
I just purchased a 2018 Toyota RAV4 Adventure all-wheel drive. It's the best RAV4 ever made, it was a cherry on top for the 2016 through 2018 models 2019 is going to a new trim it will come with lots of mistakes. The 2018 Toyota RAV4 Adventure all-wheel drive has been the best vehicle I've ever had and has never let me down
love love love my 2017 Honda CR-V Touring. Been very pleased with it. Parking sensors are available they just have to be installed aftermarket vis Honda Accessories.
The crv's wheels look like a beyblade lmao
It looks like a kunai
I was watching some of your older reviews from as recent as 2015 and you've really transformed yourself over those years. Good job on the diet and exercise, bro.
Thank you! Glad to know that my hard work with diet and exercise is paying off! :)
- Sofyan
CR-V's CVT transmission rules it out for me. Just personal choice in transmission choice.
Cvt is actually the best
Why are you comparing a Touring CRV with a RAV4 SE. Shouldn't you have compared w/the Platinum!
Brian Lawrance also this 2017 Toyota RAV4 SE this video this one is his mother’s car. So the Toyota RAV4 is part of his family cars.
It's amazing to think that there was a time where American family cars were primarily V8, RWD sedans. These commuters need to start demanding personality in their cars again before all we're left with is 7 different flavors of Ford Escape.
Yeah, let's demand clunky, unreliable, polluting, inefficient crap. Screw progress!
You're an idiot if you think progress necessitates blandness. 90s cars were far less polluting, far more reliable and far more efficient than 70s cars and they were a lot more fun and the car market was more diverse.
Today, people consume cars as an appliance and are willing to accept poorly made, uninspired, unexciting crap. The issue isn't progress, the issue is an apathetic consumer.
Also, in many ways these cars aren't progressing technology. Engine head design on many cars is becoming less advanced now than it was 10-15 years ago because companies don't want to spend the money on R&D when a cheap, old solution is available with turbo chargers. Cars from the 90s were far better made and more reliable than the beta test in progress junk you're buying today.
@@doctorferdinand1003 "90s cars where more diverse." ...Yes. That's why the market was flooded with rebadged versions of Mercury, Plymouth, Eagle, Oldsmobile, Pontiac and Saturn vehicles. Real original.
Crv for me
Alpha Beast CRV will be my next car
just check first if there is no overfill oil in the turbo engine due to dilution with GAS. This is a ticking bomb ready to explode for Honda into a class action LS
@@RR-ev3po yep, at the same time Honda vehicles with the dilution problems are BANNED to be sold in China. Chinese Gov't believes that the design flaw is deeper than just a "software" reprogramming fix. Basically, those who purchase the NEW, Not tried and tested Honda engine, are basically guinea pigs.
whereas buying a tried and true Toyota engine known to last decades, you become a more secured buyer.
@@christianuy5791 This is very true, I bought a 2017 CRV with that shitty CVT and I had nothing but issues, would just stall out on me doing 75 to 80 mph down the interstate, and I bought it new, and I'll be dammed if right at 26 k that shitty CVT went kaput it was fixed under warranty, but as soon as I got it fixed i traded that pos in for a 2019 RAV-4 the last model year to offer the 6 speed auto and I am so satisfied. I've been a loyal Honda owner since I bought my new Civic in 2005, and my first car ever was an 89 Prelude Si. Never again will ever buy another Honda, they are going the way of Nissan with that shitty CVT tranny.
If the Honda had a conventional naturally aspirated motor and an automatic, it would be a no brainer to buy the Honda. Unfortunately, the RAV4 will be more reliable long-term.
lunisce There is nothing wrong with it's CVT lol wtf
Us news review ranked 2017 RAV4 on 12th spot, from best to less, due to Rav4 sluggish engine, loud accelerating.
My friend complained Rav4 slow acceleration for uphill drive.
I drove his car, found slow acceleration, loud engine noise uphill driving.
Hondas are literally more reliable than toyotas
The Honda CR-V is the better choice hands down. It looks better... However due to the changes Toyota made to the 2018 Camry & how the 2019 Avalon is going to look, I can see Toyota stepping up the Rav4 for 2019 & shitting on the competition... We should all watch out for future Toyota models cause they ain't playing anymore lol
The 2019 Avalon is the ugliest car ever. Did you see that grill?
Always awesome reviews! Going forward, could you squeeze in an opinion on sound systems? Thanks Sofyan!
CVT transmission and Turbo and Direct fuel injection are no go's for me. Huge costs coming if you keep it past 50,000 miles. You cannot rebuild CVT's, you have to replace at about $5600 to $6000.
You could be right but I'd also argue that there would be so many parts for the CRV given how many of them are on the road that it'd be pretty cheap to find just about any of that if you're willing to look.
I’ve seen so many Honda’s cvt with well over 250k and some crv turbo cvt with over 150k now on 2023
Honda has alot to offer than the rav 4 to be honest.So better get the CRV.I dont say that the RaV 4 is trash but over all,The CRV has alot to offer
Honda crv is trash
Happy with my 2017 CRV and it's amazing...1.5 turbo is very fast...I loved it...
Was in the market for a family SUV. Chose the RAV4 SE because of that bulletproof 2.5L and 6 Speed Automatic. Honda had better features, quality and looks. But with that 1.5T and CVT, it was a hard pass.
I agree on long term reliability.. Turbos cannot beat non turbos and cvts cannot beat automatics...
few if any reviews talk about the only thing i car about. long term reliability. Dont trust CVT or Turbo.. Ill take the "old school" RAV
Honda makes the best CVT.
Us news review ranked 2017 RAV4 on 12th spot, from best to less, due to Rav4 sluggish engine, loud accelerating.
My friend complained Rav4 slow acceleration for uphill drive.
I drove his car, found slow acceleration, loud engine noise uphill driving.
It’s just that I wanted to buy a new car cash that I could keep for 15 years and Didn’t want a turbo engine or a CVT transmission
I have a 2018 rav4 and idk what you mean about noisy cause mine I don’t hear the road at all
I think you should have compared the RAV4 with the Limited or Platinum to that new CRV Touring!
Please keep these comparisons coming! They're great! (Also, my family is Honda loyal, but this vid helps with perspective).
I just bought a 2019 CR-V. I love it the only complaint I have is it's noisy going down gravel roads and the seat belt is hard to latch over my fat belly!
Put some sound dampening under your carpet if you go down a lot of gravel roads. Also use it in the (inside) doors in the car. Think one good brand is called Duramax.
Tough choice. For me it's between the CRV Touring and the Subaru Forester XT. The Forester has the power, but the CRV has all the tech and the fuel economy. Not a fan of the RAV4. Seems like the latest Toyotas have been styled by the Borg.
nihoole get a cx5. Plenty of power fun to drive. Avoid the Subaru boxer engines, they have a tendency of burning oil from the factory. Mazdas have come a long way reliability wise.
Brian Lawrance Unless you go for the old EJ engines then yes most likely you will deal them. For the FA/FB engines they hardly have that issue. Have a FB engine on my current Subaru and no issue to this day.
The Forester XT has the turbo FA20 with 250 hp. Unfortunately it only comes with the CVT.
Here in Belgium this RAV4 is available in Hybrid (2.5 + elec) with 197 bhp. It's like a cheaper Lexus NX300h.
I wish that CR'Vs came with those spare tires on the rear door back, they look awesome.
RAV4 is way better hate the cvt and I wonder how long the tiny engine with turbo will last
RAV4 looks like a 2015/16/17 Auris, stretched in height and a new front bumper
Kids these days don't have iPads they have iphones.
The Honda’s turbo and CVT are question marks for me as far as reliability and future maintenance cost is concerned. Plus I’m not a big fan of the CRV’s touchscreen on the EX and up. Otherwise the CRV’s features are better than the RAV4.
The new engine does away with the old timing belt which requires an expensive preventive maintenance job. The new engine uses a chain, which lasts as much as the engine will, with no replacement required. Definitely a move in the right direction, plus the turbo is dialed in to provide for better fuel consumption as you will see when you compare it to the RAV4.
I have a 16 RAV4 SE and love it. Looks great, nice ride, lots of room and tons of features
you shall never compare any car with HONDA CR-V ,wohhhhhhh, the best of all i've ever had
On a side note, 2017 CR-V EX trim and above have paddle shifters in the middle east.
Going with the RAV4. Can't stand the digital displays, hate where the shifter is placed, and the exterior design just looks sleeker, to me. For an everyday BS driver, the RAV4.
You do excellent, thorough reviews. I really liked test driving the CR-V, except for pronounced road noise. Did you notice intrusive road noise in the CR-V?
The Rav4 where I live is equipped with a CVT but there is manual mode so I am aiming for getting one in a few years.
CRV #1, for life.
Zoo Ropa82 I agree
This was the review I was looking for, thanks.
I would take the CRV
Tried and true is always better than new. Go Toyota!
I wonder how many bugs you ate for this review
John Ye A lot, there was a lot of cursing we cut out ;)
Deleted scenes of this review? Please! haha
Redline Reviews Can we get a bloopers reel!? Lol!
Redline Reviews is the 2018 Corolla review out yet?
Still look as calm and composed as ever! LOL.
Woah 5 MPG better!?! Go HONDA!
The Best comparison presentation! Thanks for the video👍🏼
I love Honda, but this new generation is the biggest eyesore
I was never fond of the cr-v but this year I can actually imagine myself driving one.
Informative and comprehensive review. I went with the CR-V and love it. While you can't really go wrong on either car, the tech on the CR-V and more modern styling is well worth the difference in price, if there is any. I have the Touring, since I like the all-LED and rain-sensing features and Touring styling. While the seats in the RAV4 may be comfortable for some, I find the snugness of the wrap around design to be a problem. The seats, ride and power of the CR-V are great. Nice job on the review!
Interested if you've had any of the oil dilution issue. I liked CRV better but went with RAV4 cause of the issues.
I got the RAV4 platinum which is fully loaded. Can’t go wrong!! And lots more room in the back as well.
I really want the Honda CR-V for my first car
My first car was a 1988 Oldsmobile with a broken door latch. Every time I took a right turn, I had to hold the door closed with my left hand.
My heart says RAV & my head says CRV.
My heart says CRV and my head says CRV. Lol.
Great idea for a video. Loved seeing the side by side, please keep it going.
No rear vents on the Toyota ! We bought the CRV Touring. Much nicer.
Mark Bow much nicer and more headache eventually hehe. 1 bottle of tylenol for small engine with turbo and 3 bottles of advil for crappy cvt tranny peace out!
How is your car doing rn?? Have you had any trouble with the turbos, oil dilution?? We also bought a rav4 in 2018 and it’s doing perfectly fine
@@MiguelLopez-fh7vx It's fine . there was a recall that was done one it to prevent the oil dilution problem.The car overall is fine . Nothing to write home about , we find the quality is lower than the Accord line. I think because it's based on the civic chassis. Fit and finish is just ok . trim is lower quality than the Accord . I personally wouldn't buy another one but it's my wife's car . I drive a Toyota Tundra and it's amazing !
Well, the RAV4 is an older car and the CR-V just got redesigned so I'm not surprised it lost.
Toyota all the way, i have always had Rav's since day one. i'm now on a mk 3 Rav, I love them.
Your reviews are great keep up the amazing job
Bought 2017 nissan juke Black Pearl Edition..
Super happy, these are kind of big for me :D
The rav4 has led taillights on se, limited and platinum
love the new design of crv thumbs up! but should I be worried about its reliability? turbo engine and cvt???
Tried the Rav4 and the CRV, one after the other, the CRV was very noisy, sound levels on the highway were also much higher, before the test drives I expected the CRV to win hands down (honda owner) but was pleasently surprised with the comfort level in the RAV4, The RAV4 base model was also better equiped (no android auto or Apple car play though) but this is not a deal breaker for me, I prefer the comfort level to actual acceleration, and the Honda the motor sound was anoying and rear passenger on the highway could not hear me talk, badly insulated cabin, sorry Honda, you may get great mpg and power but in my humble opinion you lost this customer, before you buy take it for a test drive and compare.
gp2003gt thats what i thought. Currently have an accord and the cabin noise is the worst. Most toyotas ive been in have a really quiet cabin. So i find it strange that he said the crv is quieter
So i got the rav4 and it is much much quieter
No apple car play?.. deal breaker
Just connect to bluetooth... @@skyhigh5157
Which one has ctv transmission?
We just bought a Rav4 last week. With the cruise set on 65, we got 32 mpg.
The 2017 CR-V was the best redesign Honda did lately. It looks very premium (LED turn signals in the headlights and tail lights) The turn signals in the rear are very Escalade-like.. This back looks like a Volvo and a Lexus RX... Why couldn't Honda make the 2018 Odyssey and Accord premium looking like the CR-V, since they are the more expensive models?
u didnt say that the CRV had one less map pocket in the back, Also you didn't find the Shift lever kind of cheap?
we all know that the honda is gonna win against the toyota, the real comparison i want to see is the CR-V vs CX-5, that one i don't know which would win overall
Joshua Stein cx 5 wins
Joshua Stein but when these vehicles get up around 90.000 miles, could become a financial nightmare, cvt won't last as long as the automatic, and turbos start to fail also, both outrageously expensive to replace. average replacement costs for cvt, 10.000 dollars! No they can't be rebuilt like an automatic can. replacement only option.
Joshua Stein I'd take the CX-5 for its looks alone.
cx is a shit
^ explain.
If you want to stick to Toyota, at least wait until the 2019 model to get one that's built off of the TNGA platform.
I just read what the differences are....meh. Nothing major, still buying my 2018 RAV.
matt9c1 so what are the added features on '19 rav sir?
I somehow like the 4 cylinder rav4 in the 2018 and prior generations more than the new dynamic force 4.
It would've been nice if you got a Platinum Rav4 to compare. More fair.
Brett Wise You're absolutely right. And the Toyota is one generation older.
Heyu Yoma The platinum would have given you a JBL audio system and the 7 inch touch display with a 360 view camera system.
Brett, I agree. He's comparing a SE (Sporty Rav4) vs a Touring (Comfort) CR-V.
it's fine. i didn't see any unfairness.
In comparisons , I've never seen him compare equal trims . Usually a lesser trim on Toyota versus Honda
You give the best reviews.
Us news review ranked 2017 RAV4 on 12th spot, from best to less, due to Rav4 sluggish engine, loud accelerating.
My friend complained Rav4 slow acceleration for uphill drive.
I drove his car, found slow acceleration, loud engine noise uphill driving.
The CX-5 is the only crossover in this segment that I don't find hideously ugly.
Turbo charging a 1.5 Liter engine with an oil dilution with be the demise of that engine (CRV'S engine). The rav4 will outlast that CRV. Scotty Kilmer!!
Exactly why I went with RAV4. Honda refuses to acknowledge the issue. Smh.
First of all I think those paddle shifters are useless. I wish my car never came with them. I just don't get why all these new vehicles have them. What a waste of time.
Honda's turbo engine accelerates much fast with the Eco mode off. Not sure if that was off or on during the test drive.
So... Rav4 = Visibility. CRV = Everything else.
Redline, when will you be reviewing the 2018 Honda Odyssey? :)
Justin David Honda is sending us an Odyssey Elite next month!
I wonder why south east asian markets have the button shifter like the upcoming 2018 accord 2.0t and here in the US we have the regular shifter :/
Probably not the fairest comparison given the 2017 CR-V is a new model and the RAV4 is essentially a 4 year old platform. I reviewed the CR-V last week and I have to say there really wasn't anything much to criticize. My review car was the top of the line VTi-LX (at least in Australia) and it was loaded with an extraordinary number of active safety systems, which for the target "family" market safety is a major selling point. I believe that there is a tech upgrade scheduled for the RAV4 later this year which no doubt will add several active safety features to bring the Toyota closer to the Honda.
Great review. I'm looking at the RAV4 Hybrid - so different from this version.
Huge Toyota guy but hands down the Honda CR-V is the best option out of the two. Step up your game Toyota!
Excellent reviews, thank you ! So much great detail and honesty! A+++
It's not really fair to the Toyota since it's on an old ass platform and engine while Honda updated everything on the crv. There is a reason CR-V is best in class at the moment.
Fadic 4 Key word.... AT THE MOMENT!! When Toyota redesigns the RAV4 for 2019 it will be better than the Honda..
I bought my 2017 RAV4 Hybrid new. Road noise has not improved much from the '09 limited I first had. Maintenance has been of no concern with either car. The Hybrid does offer a little better get up. I hope my nephew likes it when I'm gone. Last car I will own barring accident.
There you go. We would like to see more comparisons and your pick on each videos.
wish you would have compared a Limited to a Touring. the SE rav 4 is a midline trim whereas the Touring is top of the line.
I hated the Toyota's front seats. Back seats were comfortable but that doesn't matter when you only drive. Hated being hugged. My hips were in pain for the 5 months I owned it. Never will buy another vehicle with such narrow width aggressive bolsters again.
Which is the best, which one do you recommend? Cual es la mejor, cual me recomiendan?
I prefer a rav4 because when u start the SUV, I love the 2.5L engine sound. Beautiful solid engine
Thank you for this video, very helpful and I recommend test driving both .
After tested drive the CRV, I was surprised that I liked it and even consider buying it.
Toyota need to put back the v6 in the Rav 4.
Paul Mitchell Ikr???!!!
Paul Mitchell well the 2019 Toyota RAV4 will have the new 2.5 inline 4 cylinder making over 200 HP along with a new 8 speed automatic transmission.
Who win??
@@Corvette1658 you've never driven the one with the six then did you? There's no contest. The six was fast and roared all the way.
The 4 banger hit 0-60 in over 8 seconds while the six was touch over six seconds. It put the power down.
Jimmy James yeah my mom test drove a 2019 Toyota RAV4 XLE Premium back in December. But she did not liked at. So she is looking at other SUVS including a 2019 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD.
Your original crv review got over 1 million views, the most I've seen on your channel, so this comparison video was expected. Next should be a real world crv hwy Mpg test.
That shine on the CR-V bumper blinded me at 2:28 😂
I don't care about the design. Rav4 is good or toyota in general. Toyota make very safe vehicles making TSS standard on ALL vehicles even the base models while Honda with their Honda sensing optional on their vehicles costs $1000 more. I'll go with Toyota in a heart beat. Honda or even other brands needs to learn from Toyota.
Well, Hyundai does that too... Who cares?
Go check that RAV4 failing the offset crash for the passenger side. Typical toyota corner cutting.
RAV4. Not gdi, no turbo. Simple and reliable
CRV vs CX-5 next
+1
www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-vs-2017-mazda-cx-5-comparison-review/
Toyota will redesign the Rav-4 using their TNGA design which I think will curb stomp the CR-V. Until then, I think the CR-V is a better car.
Great Review, I can't stand cvt's even if they get better mpgs and no more vtech crazy for honda.