Talking about Sociopathy ft. Kitboga
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Sociopathy or being a sociopath is something that is misinterpreted quite a bit. Sociopathy is a scale measuring how much you can suppress your emotions to "manipulate" someone else. Dr. K says Kitboga would test highly on a sociopathy scale, but so would Dr. K as he is a psychiatrist.
In this video, Dr. K talks to Kitboga about sociopathy and sociopaths.
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This must be the nicest Indian guy Kitboga has ever talked to.
He's playing the long con, to pay for the session he's gonna need a Google play card 💀
I mean, you aint wrong cuz.
This comment might be very inappropriate - however it gave me a really good laugh 😅
@@outtic well the best comedy is most of the time inappropriate.
I FKIN BURST OUT LAUGHING LMAO
This video feels chaotic. It starts in a weird place, there is no introduction, etc. I prefer unedited conversations.
Yeah it was the same with another one of his interviews recently, I don't like it. Feels like your walking into a convo instead of Introducing one
who do you think you are you little shit, you're the lowest of the low if think that you know anything about anything.
Right. At the beginning of the episode I felt like I entered the middle of a movie and it was just about to hit the climax.
@@gamu1647 Dr K wont talk to you about your struggles stop trying to get attention.
@@Zobokolobozo That's not my aim?
I'm so used to seeing Kitboga with shades on that it looks weird seeing him without them.
Nothing wrong with his eyes but they remind me of the one pair of eyes you'd use on your Habbo if you were trying to seem cool.
Agreed!
Same
@@stockloc and this is probably why he wears shades because people point stuff like this out
@@jeremyellis4302 Originally it was just to conceal his identity a bit
Editor you gotta stop cutting these down. Seeing the unexciting moments allows a different perspective of the person talking and its very important for creating a connection and by extension helping the ones watching.
I think uploading edited versions + unedited would be good, I don't always have the time or attention to watch a 3hr video.
@@L1vingAshlar Yea, i think both is a good option. A lot of the time a 3 hour video is too much, but sometimes i would really like to get all of it
Thumbed up, but wanted to emhasize the point. Something important happens, and gets lost, between the highlights. Please don't cut those out
you can also watch the VOD on twitch if you want the full version..
@@L1vingAshlar its what im doing right now
This is how I imagine Batman having a therapy session would go. And it's not even a joke. In order for someone to deal with sociopaths, you kind of have to take a dip into the sociopathy pool... but Batman full on takes his insanity and uses it against the bad guys. Batman deals with the villains by pure empathy. Kitboga's entire MO is empathy, and using said empathy against those that are willing to abuse it.
aka Kitboga is Batman.
You guys should adopt the approach the Joe Rogan Experience takes when uploading. Upload the full interview, then have several clips for each interview with 10-15 min segments that might be particularly interesting. That seems like the best compromise between short and long-term content.
Huge agree
It also increases profit
I recently discovered that this exists. The channel is called "Dr. K out of Context" I think
@@JoeyTen Yeah, it was created a couple weeks after my original comment.
Yeah that would be good
I dont know about everyone else, but I MUCH MUCH prefer the unedited full version. I like to have it on and do my art work for hours. But with these edited version, I don't feel as "invested" in the interview. so strangely, I end up not watching these half edited ones. Bring back the full version please. At least give us option to choose one.
can still watch the VOD on twitch
watch the vod
just watch the vod..
watching vods on twitch is painful
atleast on mobile it is
I think the interviews should be left unedited.
Anyone who's watched Kit's stream or YT can see and hear that YES he does have empathy and that he's VERY empathic and nice. He is able to put himself in other people's shoes.
Exactly
@@aprilleerose He is empathic to the victim NOT the scammer and rightly so!
I can't help but think that there is a weird perverse fascination with this. Like yes, raising awareness is one thing, but kit takes it farther. Early on he seemed to be looking for recognition from the scammer that they were hurting and taking advantage of others and kit wanted to hear remorse, which he seldom got. Now it just seems to be an issue of "twisting the knife". Watch as I fool this stupid criminal, tease what they want, and then take it away.
Does he have empathy? I would say yes. Does he take a perverse satisfaction in bully the criminals? I would also say yes.
And as viewers of it are we also complicit in the whole thing? You betcha.
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
@@Codeaholic1 I would bully the hell out of hitler and I'm not ashamed of that.
He's a real good kid. ( I still think he's from somewhere in Chicagoland.)
You have empathy, kit. You do what you do to waste scammers time so they don’t target people like your grandmother.
You’re a good person. You’ve just found a different way to fight against evil.
I don’t think he is worried because he doesn’t feel bad about wasting scammer’s time. He is worried because when scammers make evil threats, he does not feel anything like i would assume he felt the first times he would hear it.
What is evil
he is batman
That’s not empathy.
I love Kitboga as a Hunan he has a huge heart and really cares for people, Great guy and we all love Edna the grandma
I have always felt, watching Kit's vids, that the scammers have presented a game of their own. They play someone they are not, provide a phone number and ask you to use your pc, then invite you to play a game for your money. Kit just plays the game better then they do.
editor stop cutting down these clips. just use timestamp
He's not really manipulating them like a sociopath... the guys on the phone are just going along with him because they think they're going to win in the end. They think they are manipulating him at the same time. I think that's an important difference.
When I first found him I thought he was just being snarky and shining them on, and he IS funny. but now I know he's really performing a service. Kitboga for President 2024. All the time he can get them to wait and waste time is time they're not calling someone else. Kitboga for President 2024.
Those were my thoughts initially and still are after having seen so many of Kit's videos. I don't think there is much more to it than that. I could be wrong, but I think most of the questions in the video are way over the top just trying to reach for something that really isn't there. If it were to be gauged in some way or another I think the the manipulation of scammers is far less than manipulating a conversation as an interview for answers which have little or no reason to be answered in the first place.
Not all sociopaths are manipulative or skilled at manipulation, it's just a common trend.
Kit’s variant of “manipulation” is purely retaliatory, and I think that’s the difference here that means he can’t be graded on a scale that would deem anyone else as a predator or a sociopath. Man’s got a wide range of emotions and his actions are never directed towards the innocent, which has to count for something in any argument on his morality.
I mean even if Kit was a sociopath, he's a good sociopath, he is using his powers to waste people's time and having fun in the process. It's a win/win situation
I must be empathetic because watching Kit squirm made me feel as uncomfortable/nervous as he seemed.
It's funny and interesting how many people point this out in the comments. For me it feels beautiful and it makes me smile. At first he was uncomfortable for being 'called out' a sociopath and a predator. But later when Dr K gave him something to relate to you could see his enlightenment.
I felt my gut weird and almost like I wanted to cry all the time. I felt it. It's so weird. They are great.
Kitboga has amazing empathy and even while talking to scammers seems to want to interact with them in a positive way.
This is what makes Kitboga different from other scam baiters. Some of the others swear and yell and that's not going to make any positive difference and is likely to reinforce scammers' negative feelings about westerners and make them more determined to scam them.
We know in advance that Kitboga has empathy because his whole channel is a reaction to him being empathetic to his own grandmother who got scammed.
Yea most of therapy is just repeating shit that couldve been figured out in the first 5 minutes for an hour. That's how these people make money. And it's why I chose neuro-psychology research rather than therapy as my Ph.D program.
his OWN grandma doesnt make him empathic
@@anthonyfaiell3263 what's the difference? What's neuropsychology?
@@starboiklem8381 Put simply. Neuropsychology is the study of the brain. Basically studying behavior at it's source.
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Psychology is the study of the behavior itself.
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Both fields have a lot of value. My biggest appeal to neuropsychology is that it is more scientific, taking psychology's flimsiest aspects and adding validity to them.
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A psychologist might diagnose a child with ADHD because the child acted out certain behaviors that may or may not just be normal things children that age do. A neuropsychologist would give someone an MRI before diagnosing them with ADHD to prove without a shadow of a doubt that that is indeed the issue before moving forward.
@@anthonyfaiell3263 Nice i definitely think that should be the future of psychology. Imo mental illness is not as mental as we think and is mainly physical like a chemical imbalance or structure abnormalities etc. If we have the science to correct this it would be a huge improvement in mental health treatment, so yeah neuro psychology is definitely the best approach imo
The key problem in diagnosing Kit as a “predator” (outside of the evil implications of the phrase alone) is that Kit is not the one setting the actual victim-creating traps here. Instead he’s merely identifying the traps intended for other people and setting them to backfire. These people are trying to prey on HIM and he flips the script. Self defense is not predation. I can’t believe so much of this was spent trying to get Kit to question his own ethics when there is nothing remotely unethical about wasting a scammers time in a goofy way and shaming the perpetrators by making them look foolish. He isn’t doxxing them. The only ones who know they were made fools are the scammers themselves. Their lives aren’t ruined in the way their own victims’ would be. His methods are just about the least consequential way you can potentially get through to someone who does evil despicable things outside of divine intervention.
I see what you're saying but I still side with what he said. It's not really defense if he's going into the situation already knowing that he's messing with them. It's more akin to fencing where kit already knows ALL of his opponent's moves and knows how to parry them without fail
Oscar Rojas at the end of the day, “predator” is a charged term that implies that Kit seeks the thrill of preying on people in general and uses the fact that these scammers are bad as an excuse to act on that urge. (Like Dexter or something lol). The interviewer *knows* this is the implication and only makes the comparison to see how Kit reacts to the accusation. He admits to that motive a couple times. What rubs me the wrong way about this vid is that it never felt like an exchange of ideas or a conversation about sociopathy so much as it felt like a subtle interrogation or some kind of mind-game. I don’t know this channel or the context for why Kit was on (an intro could’ve helped me there) but unless it was built on Kit stating he he had emotional baggage he wanted help sorting through it felt like these questions were formatted in really pointed ways
@@Azurvix Close analogy, but not quite there. Kit knows all of his fencing partners moves and how to counter them, but his fencing partners are going around attacking and exploiting the vulnerable. He simply takes the attention of the attackers, creating a short period of time where they can't hurt others.
@@chinmaydasari2232 It's really weird that you're trying to excuse the behavior of people who prey on the weak and vulnerable. In many of Kits videos he tells the scammer that if they pay the scammer, then kit won't have money for medication or other needs. They don't show any remorse and demand the money. Sorry, but stealing from vulnerable people is wrong. I don't understand how you think it's ok.
Also, it's up to India to solve poverty in India. If they want to solve poverty, than India needs to invest in their infrastructure and attract manufacturing (which is probably what is going to happen).
Oscar Rojas The difference is he isn’t harming people by what he’s doing, he’s wasting their time. What they are doing is unethical and harms people’s lives.
Alternative title : *Doctor tries to scam a grandma*
wtf is your name
The most annoying thing about this session is that i just looked on the VOD and its 2 hours long where this video is 52 minutes, going to watch the VOD but to the editor , in future please put the entire VOD up, most of us find these chats very interesting and it's annoying to have a cut version.
agree
I'm still so annoyed and I don't even know if VODs stay up for years indefinitely and I've never watched one on twitch and I don't know how to find the full conversation but gosh how badly right now I still want to
Stop chopping up the video missing out on heaps of content here
watch the vod then lol
@@lescarea u smart bro
@@lescarea itll get deleted eventually.
Can we just say Kitboga is a HERO for the work he does.
These questions have such a negative connotation. I guess Kit signed up for being on this but damn, for a public interview of a public figure, no matter how you respond people could associate some of the questions negative connotations with Kits channel. It’s like a lawyer in a courtroom bringing up something that there’s no evidence of against a defendant, not because he’ll get convicted, but because it paints them in a bad light and plants that doubt of the persons moral character in the jury’s minds. It was entertaining and interesting though. It takes a certain kind of person to do a job like Kit does.
The big issue is how socially awkward and uncomfortable he is, it makes the interview look way more hostile than it actually is
“It’s not who you are underneath, it’s what you do that defines you.”
"Being an able man, there is always."
"my dick is so big bro holy shit"
@@mattattack75 @mattattack75 Let me correct you: you cannot "be born good". It's what you experience and learn on your way of life that shapes your perception of the world and intentions. Everyone has their set of things they're especially good at. For KitBoga this is the manipulation of other people. This can be perceived bad in people who have a fear for this kind of ability. But in fact, it can be used for good things. Like Dr K and KitBoga are doing. Dr K tought KitBoga that he has some of the same abilities that Dr K has. But it's what you do with it that defines you're good or evil.
He doesn't even look like the same person without the shades.
Of course he does, he looks exactly how you'd imagine
I love seeing people on here that make me feel like worlds colliding. This stream and Dr. K are so damn cool. This show is groundbreaking
It started very abruptly. Like I *know* there was something leading up to that
Maria Ludlow the stream is in two parts. The interview is after the first half.
As a delivery driver I was once asked to take a pizza to a house, and call someone on the phone and then give it to the person at the door. It was an older women, 70s, 80s, and she was terrified. She told me to hang up the phone and leave. Apparently this is a common tactic that scammers use to keep further contact with a person they have scammed in the past. To me it was one of the most far out things I have experienced as far as my time delivering has gone. To be a fake victim, who is secretly in control, is one thing, but actually seeing the fear of an actual victim is a completely different experience.
Although quite tragic, it was good for me to read this story. To see how appallingly far some people will go to harass the elderly for money. That poor woman.
Why are you posting these videos at half length?
Why dont you watch the full stream on twitch?
@@xgcdarkninja911 maybe he did? Still fine to complain I don't get it either
You can watch the VODs on twitch I'm pretty sure
@@xgcdarkninja911 not everyone can watch this when it streams because of time zones and work, be considerate. They wouldn't ask if they could have the solution that easy
@@0696789 He's talking about watching the VOD. The problem is VODs get auto-deleted.
Comparing this to the other interviews he’s had with bigger streamers, this was jarring. There was animosity here, and he’s usually a lot nicer and keeps complimenting his other guests.
Well he is indian... The arch enemy of kitboga, bet his cousin is a scammer that asked him to try to destroy kit lol
Love the diversity of people you have on and i'm continually surprised to see people like kitboga that i'm subscribed to and never thought id get see talking with you
Kit is a national treasure. He must be protected at all costs.
I love kit and seeing a deeper layer of him was great. Now we need you in a stream with him calling scammers
I love Kitboga, I love everything he stands for, and his focus to expose the evil ones who takes advantage and steals from others. I think Kitboga is a fantastic person.
That was a fascinating interview! I watched the full version, and glad I did.
Plz dont cut it in half Ill just watch the vod
"We're under the impression that good people don't have bad pieces." That is powerful.
To a millenial twitch viewer, maybe. To someone who has experienced life a bit--reprocessed pop psychology.
@@Colleen1701 Lol, dont throw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.
@@user-vh9ir5eq7h Its one of his bad pieces, dont worry about it.
@@maldatv_apx_gaming_nrgsoon2772 😂😂
Colleen pseudo intellectual karen over here
You have great humility. You live your life by the golden rule. No one is perfect or we wouldn't be on this planet. You do what you do, & that's good enough. Hey, I'm 62 (I feel 32) & I'm still learning, & I have learned from you.
💜💙💜💙💜💙💜
BLESSINGS
On Sociopathy, and Psychiatry: I am a a psychiatrist with hyper empathy. I have chosen to work very limited hours to avoid burnout. I’m also a good psychiatrist. My affective empathy informs me about how people are feeling. I’ve learned to use it to my advantage in my work. Nevertheless I still get exhausted and emotionally drained even though I am able to feel the feelings and not take them on as deeply as I used to years ago.
I am also autistic. Self diagnosed (confirmed by professionals), late, after my daughter was diagnosed at age 7. Trying to understand her and get help made me learn about girls and women on the autism spectrum. She has a demand avoidant profile. There was a lot of gaslighting and blame by mental HC providers before I found professionals who understood autism in girls and especially pathological demand avoidance. Hyper empathy is common in woman on the spectrum. And men who present with the more “ female” phenotype.
He talks about his kids on streams with such love
Now i know for sure that i‘m not sympathetic, but empathetic. I felt incredibly uncomfortable during this „interview“ (or cross examination).
If my therapist talked to me like that with such certainty and authority, i would have never healed so quickly. She pointed out her observations in a way that was not „I am the psychology expert here, and i see everything about you.“, i always felt empowered.
Kit! You are not a normal guy, you are absolute perfection! Your work is hilarious and yet so educational. Love it! Fan for life.
I honestly think he’s a superhero and so humble! Thank you to you both for this interview!
Is the Q&A gonna be posted later? I'm not a fan of the streams being cut down, VODs on Twitch are deleted so I think streams should be posted fully to preserve them. At least this one seems to be the full talk; the one with Andy Milonakis started in the middle of the conversation.
By the way, great talk as always.
That entire sociopathy bit feels wayyy off. Kit does not like to call himself an empath because he does see empathy as an admirable trait in people. And even just there already, the way he describes how awful he finds the ways the scammers treat their elderly victims, that's just loaded with empathy for these victims.
This video is bizarre, it seems like the doctor is hellbent on proving that finding enjoyment in seeing a bad person fail, or tricking them into failing, makes you an evil person when really I don't know why that would be the case. Maybe the most enlightened monk could feel the same empathy for the most evil criminal and the most innocent child but I think it's normal to feel good about seeing someone fail at doing something despicable, and keeping them from doing it to someone else, and educating more. It's when people are deceptive and manipulative in all aspects of their regular lives that a label like "sociopath" becomes appropriate. Unless Kitboga is calling his mom pretending to be 4 different people to get her to order the food he wants I call BS.
Glad to see a bunch of comments about the editing; in my opinion, only the technical issues and similar things should be edited out. Great vid again, and thanks Dr. K
What is with all the interrupting?! He cut off Kitboga almost every time he volunteered any information. That was super fucking bothersome to watch.
Agreed with the rest, please keep the full length vod and don't cut it in pieces!
It’s amazing how the good people feel off guard when taking the genuine kindness because they’re not used to it, I’m sure he came out of this feeling alittle more fulfilled 🖤
I feel like Dr K missed the mark a bit on this one. I like his stuff pretty much always, but this one he was a little off tbh.
Wow did not expect this! Definitely watching right now.
good people have been taught that they cannot use the tools that an evil person would use because that would make them evil. I disagree with this. ( I even think that evil people gaslight others into not using the very tools that they use to keep good people weak) Manipulation, lying, scheming is not good or evil, they are tools that any person can use, but its up to the user to choose to be good or bad.
feels like the interviewer dislikes Kit on some level 🤔
Yes I agree, hes being very aggressive almost mean to him for no reason. Asking questions as if to accuse him of some wrong doing and even doing occasional power moves that I feel are a bit unnasasary. And you can kinda tell that kitboga gets a bit uncomforable too. I dont know, I just feel like he could of interviewed him a bit differently.
@@lumberjackthc Yeah you're right, saw some power-move and was surprised, nice people don't usually resort to that.. I mean he can't possibly side with the scammers(?) but he kinda want's to talk more about Kit and less about scammers. Kit is probably a little different offline, but as we know him from online he is always always the nicest person ever, maybe some people just don't like too nice guys..
Interesting. He's giving his opinion and trying to explain his logic/thought process, it's weird that you think that
@@GMODISM He's not an interviewer, he's a psychiatrist - the nature of these talks is kind of like a public broadcast therapy session/diagnosis of the streamers mental health and psyche - Dr.K tends to approach most of these talks with a very playful and open nature, so sometimes he seems flippant or dismissive, but normally he's using this as a means to disarm someone's precognition about who they think they are or what their actions represent, allowing them to consider themselves from a new perspective which could help develop growth/meaningful reflection.
Like most psychiatrists he does have a tendency to lead the 'patient' towards the conclusions he's making, but normally by the end of the videos you see that he did get a pretty good grasp on the nature of how people feel/think beneath the surface, below the logical constructs that give narrative reason to their behaviours.
So yeah - he's not interviewing Kit, this is supposed to be like a session with a psychiatrist, just with an audience.
I got that feeling in the first half of it but by the second half it gets better. At some point he says that he's making him uncomfortable on purpose by asking inflamatory questions, because he wanted to talk about how he felt about those questions, so I think there was more of a purpose to that then his feelings towards Kit. That leads to him saying that what makes Kit a good guy is the way he dealt with those questions. Just in case you made this comment before watching the whole thing.
If anybody wants to keep watching the vod on twitch after finishing this video, it ends at around 1:19:50 on the vod
Sometimes when people laugh it seems like they're being disingenuous. But I think Kit does it out of habit, and possibly to suppress certain emotions and guard himself. Either way, everyone has SOME sociopathic tendencies.
Honestly this person sucks as an interviewer.
"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" ~Paarthurnax
Sympathy is when your friend is crying and you're like, dang bro, I'm sorry.
Empathy is when your friend is crying and that makes you cry.
This can be applied to any emotion.
I was so excited for this but I’m sad it has been cut down so much! Can you guys reupload this without any major cuts?
The cut at 45:30 was actually painful. I've been reading the comments while watching and I think this exact moment is perfectly emblematic of the two main problems people have with this video. Dr. K give a great breakdown that Kit is supporting but right after the thesis is finished with a rather large capstone we don't get to see the person the thesis is predicated around/upon respond. It was such a deep dig and regardless of the context it's very hard to get a social grasp of the situation when it's cut into the beginning of another deep dig that throws Kit for a loop at it's onset.
I'm not saying DR. K is unfounded in his questions or views, or that Kit was verbally beaten in this conversation, but I do feel like I've missed out on some of the most important information of this exchange, and can't trust the takes DR. K makes because I don't know the context they are being made in, this really undermines the thought that a report is developed and that Kit is being anything more than semi-consensually mentally dissected.
I really like the concept of the heart of darkness, as it can be used as a tool for understanding one's ethical weaknesses as well as empowering oneself. Seeking Dr. K build up an idea of Kit's and then not see his response really threw away what I came to be most invested in over the course of the talk.
Bless you Dr. K for your wonderful work and thank you very much Kitboga for sharing your experience with us.
I'm tempted to say throw away or at least be careful about your ideas regarding choice and capability (if he doesn't want to scam scammers, he might not scam scammers so the 'capability' is just an untrue belief) however I appreciate that our ideas about such things do sometimes ring true even though they're just ideas.
Empathy is the express route to burnout. Use judiciously for those that deserve it.
Would like to add in my voice I highly prefer the unedited conversations. We miss a lot starting at random points and I don't enjoy it.
I found this by "accident". I am an adult (57). It was nice to see Kit put himself in a vulnerable position. As far as the sociopathy/ callousnessness..I call it " compartmentalizing. I was a pediatric oncology nurse/ end of life care. It was extremely taxing on my mental health. I am an empath and every child/ parent was treated like my own. When I left work at the end of my shift, I intentionally went through that door and left that all behind until the next shift. Recently, on one of kit's streams, a scammer had changed, energetically..positive, " upbeat" to extremely negative ( i felt an evil- ness emanating from him) it seriously hit me in the gut and left me overwhelmed. I had to turn it off and do a grounding meditation! So, becoming callous becomes understandable in Kit's case. I give him a ton of credit for " allowing" the scum scream and berate and disrespect his many characters, as well as himself. He still remains good at heart. A son his parents can be very proud of. Im sorry for the wordiness. It needed to be put out there. He is not a bad guy. Computer geek..yes. Anyone that is a Spock fan is alright in my own geeky book. 🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🤙🖖🖖🖖🤙 luv you kit! Keep up the amazing job ypu are doing.
I'd really appreciate the full unedited versions to be uploaded, I feel like I miss out a lot jumping into the video mid conversation
Oh wow... that last Dr. K speech about bad thoughts is literally summed up by that quote from The Dark Knight: "Its not who we are underneath but what we do that defines us."
Nice!
Another good but unrelated quote from Harvey Dent, "we either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain"
Love that movie
That's been a CBT staple since forever.
How the hell can anyone feel empathic for these scammers????? I think they have gone to the lowest form of human behavior on earth!!
I surely have no empathy and would never do what they do no matter how needy I was. To ask Kit if his callousness impacts his empathy of these scammers is ridiculous. He has to develop some guards or else he would not be able to do what he does.
His feeling for his child is a very common parental feeling...no one wants their child to feel that devastation coming out of nowhere all of a sudden. He can relate it to something that comes from his past and I hope he shared this with both of his children so they they could see what their behavior did to each other.
I loved this interview, I'm used to seeing kit talk for a living and he's usually in charge of the conversation. Dr K really pushed Kit to get some introspection about his good work. Both great people.
Please post the whole vods!
Dr K: you’re like Batman
Kit: thanks...sorry I don’t take compliments well
Dr K: that’s what makes you so extraordinary... *giggles*
Lmao
I love when he's real with the scammers and asks them why they do it.
I am confused in regard to the definition of sympathy and empathy, Dr. K said it's feeling bad for someone, but I thought that would be more along the lines of pity/compassion? I read sympathy is you are able to share people's feelings, so if they feel bad you feel bad and if they feel happy you feel happy and empathy is more like a deeper understanding of why the person is feeling the way they feel on a deeper level. Like to the point you can feel like you can "put yourself in their shoes."
Editor you have ruined my whole day by cutting this video down. My disappointment is immeasurable
its just a video
and my day is ruined
@@randomuser-vs3oe LOL
ruined your whole day!?!? it ruined my whole life
just stumbled across this, and it's a hard watch. I do not think this guy is asking his questions in a manner that is clear and concise and it seems he is totally attributing meaning to words and not context. It is probably a result of super bad editing, but it sure undercuts this guy's expertise. Simple answer is that Kit empathizes with the victims of the scams, not the scammers, though he does sympathize with the scammers as people, which is why he still always tries to lead them to the right path. And why does he not use the term compartmentalization!!
Two of my favorite streamers!
38:40 It's interesting because that's one of the most satisfying things about this whole thing, you always have hope that the scammer reflects of what they're doing and that's a great thing when it happens. way better than pure revenge
When Kitboga "reveal", he is only removing a layer of his mask. The persona of Kitboga, is also a mask.
Yeah he is a little bit jaded but he has to be. Ive watched Kit for a while and these guys will say and do anything to get that money. Makes me worried for the "real" people that are scammed and how they go on after being scammed by people like this. I hear that they don't just stop at one and call them back again and again. I kind of wish he would go further like Jim Browning who actually calls those scammed and gets their money back to him when he can. Wasting their time is fine but it only does so much. Still it IS something.
I can't believe stuff like this is free. Ty bro.
I like the editing. If I wanted to watch the whole thing then I'd just watch the VOD.
Those get deleted unless they're highlighted. It'd be a shame to have this as the only version.
I wish this was just an interview with kitboga and not a psychoanalysis.
He’s a psychiatrist and it’s supposed to be like a therapy session
Me too
How did Kit get suckered into doing this? What a mess
It’s extremely common for people to have a hard time identifying emotions. Most people will respond with what they think. I am trained to lead them to feeling words but I do it with gentleness. This guy is too blunt.
Yeah, I have seen a few therapists, and psychiatrists and this dude is clearly very HIGH on the sociopathy scale. LOL
I think he doesn't have the psychiatric approach at all, generally psychiatrics tend to fill their patients with pills in order to solve a specific problem, without investigating the roots. Basically they treat a person like a machine, only from a biological perspective. Dr K sounds much more like a psychologist than a psychiatric which is good, considering that half of the population use prescribed drugs like tic tacs. I really like his modus operandi he goes to the core of the problem and his connections are witty, he can glue together the pieces of the puzzle very well. That's just my opinion.
Kitboga is a legend, and this video was great! Thanks
When this dude laughs he sounds like he's crying
I have a psychopath father who has the same demeanor
@@karlmarx5313 sounds rough, focus on radicalising libs
I'm wondering if he also trained to suppress his laugh by all the years being on the phone trying to keep up the act
When I laugh, no sound comes out of my mouth and I sound like a lizard.
Blue .Barrymore I mean he also implied someone over the internet was a psychopath
i'm not used to seeing kits eyes and they are so nice! :3
Man, how have I not seen this video before. Unexpected collab
I just loved watching it, it was so interesting
I see this as similar to people in runescape who legit are fine with robbing people of 1000s of hours of work. Like legit the mentality to be a scammer even in video games is insane. These people now will even get into voice chats now and start yelling to shame you if you mess up. The shit is wild
Its the same horrible malicious shit but just in another medium. There are scammers everywhere, and they're all equally evil.
This mans is not a sociopath, he seems alexithymic
I learned about alexithymia recently, and i strongly believe i have something like that, where people feel emotions on such a fine spectrum that it's extremely hard to simplify them down to words like happy, sad, angry, confused, hungry etc.
I mean it's either that or i have the high score in Sociopothy Simulator
After you die, Dr. K questioning you about your life is the first thing that happens.
This was a fantastic discussion
The day when a diagnosed psychopath will be talking to Dr.K it will be a compelling interview.
The scary thing is there's a chance that an undiagnosed, or even a diagnosed psychopath has already talked to Dr. K
@@alexmeyer8133 Trapped in the paranoia of not knowing
HYPE for the Hashinshin episode
i'm binge watching all these videos
I really enjoyed this video.
Thank amazon.
This guy doesn't seem to understand the dynamics of what Kitboga does and is seemingly responding on the basis of a false perception of the whole thing. Of course he isn't feeling fear in response to their threats, because he knows that for one thing he's playing a vulnerable character that the scammers are threatening, not himself, and besides that, he's aware of the fact that the scammers cannot do anything and are simply ACTUAL sociopaths or psychopaths who are powerless and desperate to feel as though they have power over someone, especially when they might make money at the same time.
He misspoke when he said he became callous. He was actually saying that he has become accustomed as anyone would to hearing the ridiculous and outrageous things that scammers say in order to try and get money from people. It's shocking to everybody BESIDES sociopaths and psychopaths to begin with. It BECOMES something that normal people become accustomed to hearing and not taking seriously because of the aforementioned reality that the scammers cannot really do anything they threaten to do, and therefore there isn't any real intention on their part to do those things and Kitboga is aware of that. It's basically the same thing as a child pointing a toy gun at you and firing it so that it makes a noise or shoots a foam dart. You know it doesn't have any ability to harm you, but maybe the first time it ever happened to you in your life, you weren't aware of that. You wouldn't say someone had "become callous" because they are no longer concerned about the toy gun being fired at them as they may have been the first time it happened.
Doctor K had one of his relatives call centres shut down, he seems pissed.
KITBOGA!!!!!! Who knew you ever took the shades off-LOL. Surely, you eat and sleep in those. Great interview!
Loved this talk
Jaded and cathartic are the words he was looking for I think