Fluid Freeride Horizon Review - 26 Mile Tested Range at 24 MPH!
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2019
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Dude...what an awesome in depth way of reviewing,comparing such a competitive scooter market going on right now! Please do all of future videos this way....IMPRESSED I AM!
this is a terrific, thorough review. great job!
Great review! Espically love the ms paint bar graphs :)
Top review as always don't change a thing and keep up the great work
Very thorough, informative, and lacking the annoying add ons. Thumbs up!
I just recently been looking for electric scooters and been on the hunt for reviews for days... out of all the scooter I've came across.. this one was in my top 5. But I really wanted to see more about it. And you did just that. Thank you man.
Thanks for the kind words! -Vosk
I just bought 2 of these thanks to your awesome review. Thank you for your comprehensive and informative video.
How do you like them?
Plumbers tape on the bar releases helps prevent them from loosening
Reusable zip tie is better!
Velcro tapes also works well.
Plumbers tape is a metal, bendable "tape" with holes in it. It's not sticky at all. You mean duct tape.
@@matthewdavies2057 he meant plumber thread seal tape. And it Works great
Just bought myself one! Thank you for all the research you did with all the scooters!!
I’m thinking of getting one too. How do you like yours?
@@Dante3ny
TL;DR - Love it! Would buy again!
Pros: I went 6 miles averaging 80% throttle the whole time, and upon arriving at my destination the battery showed full.
I was able to hit 23 on full charge on flat road - FUN!
The folding nature lets me store it nicely away.
Cons: Lights aren't that bright. I ordered a small LED light bar and i'm going at attach it to the stem.
Acceleration isn't the best, but it's enough.
Price is high - I got the extended battery to ensure i'd be able to ride to work and back lol.
Hey guys, just a PSA: MAKE SURE that the release lever is pushed down ALL the way so the lever is flush with the metal when the stem is folded up in the riding position. The manual does not make this clear, in my opinion. I assumed that the peg simply clicked into place when you unfolded it, and didn’t think to push the release lever all the way down to secure it. And since I didn’t, the locking peg wasn’t totally in place. I was able to stand and even bounce on it in this state but once I got up to speed, the stem folded and I took a spill. Scraped up my elbows and my throttle snapped off the handlebars, and my arms were sore for a few days. I’m looking for a repair on the throttle connector currently.
So, a PSA: make sure that the release lever is pushed ALL THE WAY DOWN so that it is flush with the metal before you ride! This is probably good advice for any other electric scooter as well.
Just got mine yesterday and the same thing happened to me 😂
Thx for the heads up. Sorry you had to find out the hard way.
Just rode on mine today. It's so much fun! Got the trolley wheels for it too.
Thank you for the thorough review
Great mileage and excellent folding mechanism. I would've liked to see better suspension in the front. Very informative review!!
This video should be the definite guide for how to review anything... seriously impressive. I chuckled a bit at the anonymous email test - what a great idea!
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
THANK YOU for this amazingly thorough review! You sold me on the Horizon ;) I have a couple questions about your additional lights recommendations. Why did you guys choose each of them and where would you place the rear light?
Excellent review. Thank you sir!
Fantastic review, very thorough!
Thank YOU! Not just for the great info, but for the awesome production and B-roll as well! Keep it up! :) I will point anyone who is in the market for a scooter to your channel for sure!
Those aviator shades are rockin...please review the Razor E-XR!!!
Hello thanks for posting these informative videos. I'm torn between Emove Touring and this fluid Horizon. please advise. thank you.
A good, solid, review.
Great review! is this the same as the Grace 8 Scooter I've seen on Ali Baba express?
Just got mine today! it already comes assembled and all you have to do is tighten the bolts on the throttle and brake with the cool allen key set that comes with it! It doesn't come fully charged but even so it will still hit 23 mph! Once fully charged you can definitely hit 25 MPH on a flat surface. I am already in love with this thing! And if you're having doubts because it has a pneumatic tire don't sweat it! The tire is very solid and can take a beating. The roads arent forgiving in NY and I just put it to the test.
You can switch to honeycomb tires after your pneumatic tires worm out. The honeycomb tires is a kind of solid tires with honeycomb holes to absorb the vibration from bumps and potholes. It would give the feeling of riding on pneumatic tires without the worry of punctures.
What do u weigh?
@@johnrice4023 164
Hows the scooter doing now?
@@iluvcatslol5714 sold to a friend for a faster scooter but he is still driving it and loving it!
I just got my FFR Horizon and it definitely doesn’t have lackluster acceleration. It accelerates faster in gear 1 and reaches 13 mph than my Gotrax XR Ultra would in it’s top gear, which would hit 14 mph. I have the p setting on 5 for acceleration, which is the fastest. Otherwise, I agree with the review. This is a phenomenal scooter for $700 including taxes and I got the 13 ah version, which reaches 26 miles per charge. Update: I actually got 28 miles on my first charge! Way to over deliver Fluid Freeride.
your video was great you cover every detail..but i will like to know if there was a dog chasing you at minute 8:38 🐕 .
I use my es2 scooter for my daily commute so i see that a lot with dogs
Wow I can’t imagine a better review
I picked this for my first scooter. 13Ah I’m stoked, thanks for this review!
You still riding it?
@@A1Bokeh i brought an Mercane Wide wheel Pro as well... and in all honesty... the horizon fluid is more comfortable, and more durable. I’ve taken the side wheel pro to the shop of 3 times... and that scooter is $1300! 😫 the horizon is $800 and it’s totally the better scooter to me. Bout to ride right now. Still running lovely. 💯 Fluid Freeride Horozin all day!
@@grimezgetem if you don’t mind me asking how much do u weigh. Also does it got far and fast like it says thanks
@@grimezgetem dude I just got a horizon today my first scoot! got it used had around 60 miles on it for 580 whoop!
i'm pretty sure i'm going to buy one based on your review. do you have an affiliate link or anything? i really appreciate how thorough your review is, btw.
great review! I think this is going to be the scooter for me to start with, after watching many of your reviews. I'm curious though, do you look into long term reliability on any of these? Or is there a source you know of with that kind of information?
We still have most of scooters for which we've completed hands-on reviews electric-scooter.guide/category/reviews/ and we are constantly cycling them. However, very long term data is hard to come by because the industry is so new. If there is a scooter where the customer service deteriorates, we update our reviews. There are some long-term reviews in the r/electricscooters subreddit. www.reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters
Well put together video..
Chuck, please help me decide.
I’m looking at the Horizon and the Emove Touring. Is the $300 difference worth to buy the Touring?
Damn Chuck ! Them sun glasses make you look like the cop in “The Village People “ lol
“ I gotta be a macho man “ lol
I’m confused, this looks, and seems to perform the same as a turbo wheels swift?
Good job Chuck
In Europe, if you want the 10Ah version then buy the original branded version the Zero 8 available around Euro595, perhaps less in post Christmas sales. If you want the 13Ah version with the upgrades then the Horizon is currently well worth a look see (if you can find it) given the Zero 9 is still retailing around Euro1100. The Zero 9 is better than the 8, of course, but twice as good? Enter the Horizon...but perhaps this is a precursor to a Zero 9 price drop, Euro800 for this awesome ride would be a steal.
No link in the notes to the horn you mentioned? Also how are you connecting the rear light?
Im considering getting this scooter for my daily work commute, would love to hear what people think about the scooter over months or years. Thanks for this review, considering with the rising gas prices.
Yo it would be a great scooter for that it's reliable and tough and portable
Ive put 1500 miles on mine and still ticking good. The solid tire is actually is good no punctures to worry about and it tops at 24 mph still
How did you all get your hands on one before the public release? Did fluid free ride give you a model early to review?
I find that the author in this video has the best breakdown/review/explanation of a kickscooter compared to other kickscooters. A great skill to breakdown and present the information.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a Nanrobot X4 2.0 with an advertised max. speed of between 19 and 24 mph. (This also has a 500 W rear motor and 8" solid rear tire.) The control panel indeed showed a max speed of 24 mph. However, when I checked it with a GPS app, I found the max. speed to be only 19 mph. So, I wonder whether or not the max. speed of 24 mph you reported was based on the control-panel reading and, if so, whether or not you have calibrated it against a GPS app. Thanks.
Chuck, you've nailed it with this review. I upgraded from the GoTrax GXL and I'm loving it. Your point about the rear solid tire is spot on. I have had an "opportunity" to ride this in rain (summer in South Florida, almost daily occurrence), much as you state, the rear solid tire does take away from the stability on wet surfaces. Being an unbranded Zero 8 (Fluid's statement), it would be nice if there were an option for tubing the rear tire.
I will add something that bears mentioning in future reviews of anything with pneumatic tires. How easy is it to change the tire? I give props to the people that build this scooter. You do not need tire levers or a tire plier to get the bead over the rim. The front tire splits apart with three bolts. This feature alone should be on all pneumatic tires on scooters.
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Im thinking of upgrading from my GXL also because I wanted more speed and fun. Do you think this is would be good for me?
My gotrax gxl v2 quit after 3 years a week ago I was riding home from work on smooth level ground going about 10mph and all of a sudden it jerked and slowed down then sped up I was in cruise control mode so my thumb wasn’t on the throttle and I keep one finger near the brake lever luckily I’m always alert when riding so I didn’t fall off the sudden jerk naturally made me hop off then when I tried to start off again the throttle did not respond shut it off turned it back on still no response from throttle my battery was fully charged so it wasn’t a battery issue I contacted gotrax they had no clue what could have happened so I’m in the market for a different brand and doing a lot of research with so many out there it’s hard to decide
@@jaredharris1970
It could be the malfunction of the circuit board on the controller module of your scooter. Usually the short circuit due to moisture accumulated on the circuit board in the area that you lived. A simple fix is to use your hairdryer to blow the circuit board in warm airflow for 10 to 15 minutes to dry the moisture off.
About 30 years ago, Audi claimed they have achieved 5-speed electronic automatic transmission on their new A4 sedans for better gas mileage with 2-year new car warranty. However, there were so many new A4 buyers got their auto tranny failed immediately upon the expiration of 2-year warranty and were forced to replace with a new tranny at high price. Finally a mechanic found the cause of failure was due to moisture accumulated on the circuit board of electronic auto tranny thus leading to the short circuit and could be fixed with replacing the circuit board without heavy loss.(this is the reason why I never like cars "loaded" with electric/electronic gadgets).
@@roamereasy9737 the thing is I didn’t use it in wet conditions whenever rain was forecasted I always took bus instead I don’t live in a dry climate or a damp climate like Seattlei live on the tristate New York area so I don’t see how moisture could have built up I do understand what your saying though which gives me an idea for my current scooter to figure out a way to keep condensation from forming around electronics on cool/ cold fall mornings because I use my scooter from may to November I never use it in temperature below 45 degrees because any temperature lower isn’t good for the battery according to my battery specs 45-90 degrees is the limit the battery can handle
@@jaredharris1970
The geographical humidity in your area is not felt by your body because you have gotten used to the local climate. However, if your area is near ocean, local humid weather still can be felt by people from Iowa, Idaho, Utah. Thus the local moisture is built up upon the circuit board leading to malfunction. So a way to cure is to place the electronic products in front of the outlet of dehumidifier to remove the accumulated moisture.
Bought this as my first scooter. Waiting for September delivery!
Hows it holding up? Waiting on a pre order also.
@@benpitchford2987 Good, but I am not best use case scenario. Under 50 miles total. I went on some uneven grass the other day and found myself wishing it was more powerful (200 lb rider). It has met my expectations though.
@@wyzeguy3603 I'm exactly 200lbs as well. My worry is power too. Debating between this and the emove touring. Are you hitting 25mph?
@@Bullwinkel 19mph @ 200lb for me on high speed - (low/med/high settings). This is according to speedometer, but it feels accurate.
If you had to pick between this scooter & the Ninebot Max which would you choose & why?
Hey! So I’m looking for a bit of an upgraded scooter for city transportation that doesn’t break the bank and this seemed like a great option, however I live in an area with some Pretty good hills. Looking at half a mile at an 11% grade. Would this scooter be able to handle it or do I need to look elsewhere. I feel like 500 watts should be enough but I don’t know what kind of torque the motor puts out (I weigh roughly 180lbs)
Do you think i should get the Emove touring or the fluid freeride horizon?
GOOD EVENING! i am looking for a retailer of this scooter in Canada do you know of any?
Cool Drone and Scooter
Can you replace the battery?
Do you notice a "fender slap" over medium to larger cracks, bumps, curbcuts, etc?
Chuck do you know if this uses LG battery ?
Was considering picking this up for my 93lb roommate.
Very good review, indeed.
Thanks very much!
Does the front tire not having a solid inner tube make anyone else worry about it popping?
On 9/9/2019 the price was $800. Is this the same as the Zero 8 from RevRides? I'd like to see a demo on how to lock these up. Thanks for a great review.
Oops.. you said:
"Yes, they are the same scooter just with the different branding. Both are great, consider pricing and support of both before purchasing. (I always have information in the description of where I recommend buying). Good luck with your purchase, you're gonna love it. "
The distance, speed, and weight limit of the Zero 8 are more conservative on fluidfreeride.com/products/horizon-practical-allround-electric-scooter-for-commute?variant=19733559869509&ref=15, but the price is the same as .
I wonder how FluidFreeRide compares with RevRides in terms of support...
how would you rate this compared to gotrax's gmax ultra ?
Amazing review! Trying to decide between this and the Emove Touring, is the extra cash worth it for the touring? Please help..
The Touring is a little faster, but has shorter range. The Touring has better front suspension and is better for heavier riders. If you're a lighter rider, either one will work well. Ramier is over 200lbs and much prefers the Touring, but the Horizon is an amazing value. It's tough call. -Paul
Thanks for your prompt answer! Your absolutely right that it’s a tough call! Between those two, I decided on the Touring, I like the optional seat, better suspension for light off road, the bell and horn, the looks and different colors! I don’t want the boring plain black look hehe.
Now I’m debating between the Touring, the speedway mini 4 pro, vsset 8 and the etwow gt. I weight 142 pounds, don’t need crazy speeds, would use for little commuting and mainly just for fun and would like to do some light off roading such as sand, grass and packed dirt trails. What do you think is my best bet out of these 4 options? I’m a newbie as well shopping for first scooter :)
Can you recommend me a handlebar extender that fits the fluid horizon?
4:17 Chuck's stunt double...lol 😆
Hey Chuck! What are the chances the range achieved with this horizon scooter was a one off fluke compared to the rest of the scooters? Do y’all do your range tests only once or is it safe to say it’s pretty reliable across the line? Just wondering haha. I just bought the 10 aH versión on pre-order and am very excited for it. Thanks for your reviews!
13ah did 24 miles city street no problem and I have over 300 miles on this battery.
Can you get an aftermarket air tire for the rear?
I need a handlebar extender for this scooter!! Can you link me one that works on this scooter?
Interested to hear what you have to say about the Horizon, the only other review I have seen available is from Eletrek. Consequently, I went out and got one. It is not perfect, but I am enjoying it a lot more than my previous gotrax gxl and with some little modifications here and there it's getting better and better.
theres pleny reviews on Zero 8, which is the originator.
@@TheChazas Let me rephrase, "good, detailed reviews" :)
@@DaveK84 reddit is the best place for it, there is not much to review besides reading of the spec sheet and seeing actual range, and the best reviews are feedback from real owners, that why I think reddit is the best.
I, too, made the switch to the Horizon from my trusty GXL and like you, loving it. Have you done anything about the too-short kickstand?
@@appa561 Honestly, i don't use it very much other than to stand it up while i'm putting on my helmet so I haven't found it a problem. I did change the grips to ergon gs1 which was a very nice improvement. Also added a bar end mirror and went through and put loctite on everything that didn't already have it.
How much does this weigh? The stated 2:46 time stamp does not say how much this scooter weighs.
Do you know if this will work well on steep hills? Trying to choose between this and the Ninebot Max.
Get this one it’s acceleration and speed better so yes it’s better vs hills
Can you please address what you said that the Zero 8 is a clone of this? Are these the same company, or is the Horizon inspired by the Zero? Etc, Etc. Do you know the return policy of this company? Thank you very much
lol the dog sprinting at you at 8:41
Damn, that dog is way faster than the scooter
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide This is exactly why there is a baton attached to the stem of my Horizon. While I'm a dog lover (have had many over my 55 years), I'm also a realist. When the old ladies with their retractable leashes meant for teacups are out walking their 60+ lbs dogs, I'm prepared.
hahahaha
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Lol, where's the rest of the footage where the dog attacks you??
Hello, is the front tire, tubeless?
Any commenters want to let me know what to get??? Turbo wheel swift or the fluid horizon?.
I want to preorder the 13ah for the September shipments but the 90 day warranty scares me.
What state is this ? The beach and hills look like an awesome place to ride. Im in CT and it sux. Lol
3:36
Correction: you meant to say WATT hour battery, not amp hour.
tighten a screw every mile or so is not a big deal?
I wonder if Teflon tape could help in the preventing the handlebars from unloosening?
Possibly!
Good review. Upgrading from a GoTrax GXL V2 which seems to need a new battery after only 6 months. It holds 50% of the charge it did when new. Really disappointing.
Also, I WISH the standard Horizon was 569. It's 700 bucks now. "On sale".
Everything went up by a lot the past few months. Sucks.
Hmmm, interesting on the GoTrax, should still keeping much more charge than that after 6 months. Did you already contact GoTrax about this?
As far as the Horizon, the only help I can give you is a free folding lock with purchase, which doesn't help much with the price. Check this page tomorrow because you might see something for Black Friday on the Horizon. electric-scooter.guide/category/coupons/
Also, check the Zero 8 by RevRides (nearly identical to Horizon) as they have a 10% off coupon: electric-scooter.guide revrides.com/products/zero-8?sca_ref=3059.ElJ94uq1v1
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm gonna hold off till Black Friday and see if they do anything.
Are you aware of a kickstand that fits this scooter but is a little longer?
No mention as to waterproofing?
Looks like a good scooter and was planning on getting it but when I saw that the front tire wasn't solid, I changed my mind. If there is a way to change it to a solid one then I'll consider it
I felt the same way but its super easy to change. You can patch without removing the wheel at all. I can see now that Ive had it a few weeks why air is better and safer so it's a no brainer on the front since it's so easy to fix.
What‘s the width of the board?
Would this be a better pick the the ninebot max for ride quality and power mostly ride quality?
Yes we like this better overall then the Segway max! -Vosk
Hi! For those who know, what would be better... 10 inch inflatable wheel and no suspension (Like hover-1 alpha) or 8 inch wheels with suspension like this fluid Horizon???
I tried out the Levy Plus scooter last year. It has 10 inch pneumatic tires and no other suspension, and I felt that the ride beat the horizon suspension hands down. I weigh 250 lbs, and I could ride on a cobblestone street with the Levy with no problem. I tried to go down the same street on the horizon and had to stop immediately. I felt like it was going to shake apart - and I don’t want to punish a scooter like that. I ended up buying the horizon scooter because it has a larger motor than the levy, and can go up hills better (for someone my weight, steep hills are out, until I buy a one of those monster scooters that can handle anything). It was a trade off - but I miss those big beautiful tires. Huge difference.
Would you recommend the turbo swift or the horizon? Going to buy one today.
The Segway es2-es4 it's a good option too
@@Miner_V2 segways have sh*t deck clearance and suspension. not comparable, only in price.
Was that watt hours or amp hours?
Hey, this community is awesome but I had a question. Hopefully someone can send me in the right direction as I would appreciate it. I am looking for something light weight, has dual 350 watt model, and can hold a 250 pound frame at least. I only weigh 210 but just to be on the safe side. I want the dual 350’s to ensure I’m not struggling while going uphill, although I’ll prolly kick start. Thanks for any replies I may get in advance.
I am currently looking to buy a scooter. I live in New York City. I am willing to spend $500 to 800 on a scooter. Please give me your master mind advice. All your reviews are awesome and I am having the hardest time deciding. Please give me your suggestion on a first time electric scooter owner.
Just to be clear, which one is the better scooter, the horizon or the zero 8? He said they are clones but which one is actually better than the other? What are the differences?
Looking at the latest data in our database, our Horizon edges out the Zero 8 in pretty much every category. It's really very close though. The Horizon also did really well in the rider survey results
electric-scooter.guide/blog/2021-survey-results/
-Paul
You should do a review on the qiewa hummer
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide its the scooter I have and i really like it. Its probably better to message them from their website and not there Facebook.
Can anyone tell me where I can get a really solid 30 mph Electric scooter, for under $1,000? Would be much appreciated!
Been looking at a couple scooters but most brands have poor customer service and that’s mainly what’s holding me back from choosing a specific brand.
Found one?
Apollo light = Zero 8 = Horizon = Turbowheel swift. Same base with minor modifications.
I purchased this scooter yesterday on sale for just under $600. (With a $150 discount code) darn good value imo.
Same but won't ship til june😪
Where and how did you get the coupon code? I’m purchasing this on Friday. Thank you
does it have cruise control on this scooter, or do you have to hold it at all times?
I believe it does since the Zero 8 (same controller) has it. It is the P17 setting: 0 for off, 1 for on. We always recommend being careful with the cruise control if you are new to scooters.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I have been doing some research on e scooter and potentially acquiring one, I have not seen much reviews on the this particular Fluid freeride Horizon scooter. I also found out that you can achieve the maximum range as the company claim on this scooter. I am comparing this between Xiaomi pro and Segway Max, do you have any advise on purchasing one? Your help would be appreciated. I would be using it as alternative to my bike, and perhaps for recreational purposes.
Larger tires?
Is this waterproof?
Is there a app on it? I’m thinking about buying it but I really want a scooter that can go at least 25 mph and has a app with airless tired
No app for thie one. Speed-wise, we clocked it at 24 mph on flat ground. The rear tire is airless, but the front is pneumatic. It's a good compromise of ride feel and flat-resistance, since most flats happen on the rear tire. -Paul
The front wheel is 8.5 inches, whereas the rear is 8 inches. The rear wheel is also wider than the front
Hey, set your power level in the settings to level one instead of 5 and try out the acceleration again. You'll find your observations of slow initial acceleration will change..
Do u know which p setting? Thanks
Level 5 is strongest acceleration according to the manual. Level 1 is the weakest setting.
So Loc-Tite the handlebars, and fold up the scooter before charging. I'm considering buying one.
It’s a dependable scooter for sure!
How is it on hill inclines ?
Pretty good. We test all scooters on a 10% average grade hill. You can compare all scooters we've tested here: electric-scooter.guide/comparisons/electric-scooter-performance-tests/
8:39 anyone else notice the dog chasing him!? Loli
Yess! 😂😂
Yes lol
I am torn between: Horizon vs. Zero 8 vs. Apollo Light ??? - any input is appreciated.
Check out the emove touring as well. Compare the horizon and emove touring. I'm aiming for the emove touring myself. Holds more weight. Bigger deck to stand on. Little better acceleration. Roughly same price. Pros and cons of course but it's a tough decision
With apollo's you have to pay it all up front if you live in USA. if they did monthly payments for usa residents I'd seriously consider an Apollo