DON'T BUY a Tupperdor without watching this first!
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- What's up everyone! In this video, I'm going in-depth on the KISS humidor from my previous video. I review everything: The container, Boveda humidity packs, Spanish cedar trays, and the hygrometers. Leave a comment if I missed anything or you have any other questions!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Container
5:40 Humidity Control
7:40 Spanish Cedar Trays
10:15 Hygrometer - Jak na to + styl
Here it is, everything I do to achieve the perfect smoke > czcams.com/play/PLhRwJC9iUOxbxXgbKXQM8y-V4070CPmIr.html&si=40fttqHZcJgIoyS5
In full disclosure, I am a General Manager for a cigar shop.
I have been using these for 4 or 5 years, plus the larger IRIS USA 3 Pack 60 Quart WeatherPro as well. I check on the Boveda packs bi-weekly and they tend to last almost a year. I still go with 1 Boveda per 20 or 30 cigars, and I have never had issues. I also tend to use 62 (for long-term, i.e. several years) and 65% if I am actively smoking from the humidor. I save the 69% and 72% for my wood humidors. In most of my "stick" humidors, I use Similar Spanish cedar trays and those exact hygrometers. (I have the WIFI version for the shop and Bluetooth for home). I set up two different accounts to keep the humidors organized separately. All around this is a great video for those who are looking to upgrade their home storage.
Very nice! Sounds like you have a solid system going for those humidors. I wish more cigar shops took this level of care for their cigars. Whenever I find the ones that do, I stick with them 👌 Thanks for sharing!
awesome channel and videos with all the facts you need and none of the bs. straight to the point that’s how we like it. keep it up bro
Awesome tips bro, thanks for clearing this topic up in one simple video without fuzz!
I agree 100 percent. I have the exact same Tupperware you use in the video.
I have Spanish cedar humidors as well. The boveda packs really do last so much longer in the Tupperware compared to a normal humidor.
Another fantastic video. Thank you for sharing your experience with this type of Tupperdore. Great information 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I appreciate your videos. So well done and straight forward. Keep it up!
I’m pumped to hear that! Thanks!
Thanks for the video goodsir. In a few ways I wish this video had been around a couple years ago when i put it all together but for one or two reasons I’m kinda glad it wasn’t and I’ll explain.
I’ve got a collection of tups and humidors all my tups are comprised of both the sistema’s you have with those same exact trays and and i also have several of the glass Rubbermaid brilliance’s you mentioned with their bottoms being lined with 1/4” Spanish cedar boards throughout.
Yesterday my order of 62&65 boveda’s came in and i got the 62’s for my tups and the 65’s for my non-airtight storages switched them all down from 69’s been having nothing but problems with the 69’s and i think you’re probably spot on with that remark in the video that’s one of the main reasons why i wish this video had been around when i first started collecting. That probably could’ve saved Me a lot of time and frustration with hoping the 69’s would ever work out. I’m excited to see how the lower rh will improve my smoke straight out the tups with minimal rest in the smoking environment pre-light.
As to why I’m kind of glad this video wasn’t around. There’s just one or two things I don’t agree on with what you said.
First, You don’t need to season a humidor or a tup just because you’re throwing Spanish cedar in, at least not in the way you’d typically think of seasoning anyway. It is something that seems very straightforward but it can be messed up and just lead to more headache than it’s worth. If you want to avoid any potential for the cedar pulling the moisture from your cigars just put the desired boveda rh you want your cigars to store at in there by itself with with a calibrated hygrometer and the trays or Spanish cedar boards before putting any cigars in there with them. Now just wait for the rh to get where its supposed to be and give it an extra day or two just to make sure it’s stable. Boom now you have your Spanish cedar acclimated and you don’t have to worry about any potential headaches that can come from seasoning like runaway humidity/mold ect.
Secondly about the number of boveda packs required i don’t know if boveda is just trying to line their pockets or they just think everyone has a terribly leaky humidor but their estimates always seem way higher than necessary especially if your using a tup it, and maybe boveda hasn’t taken the airtight nature of tupsinto consideration at all idk. That being said In the couple years I’ve had this set-up they’ve only ever required one size 60 between the trays right on top of the lower tray in the middle where the dip is cut out of the divider. I don’t think until now that i just switched them out for the 62’s that I’ve ever had to replace a single one because it dried out. So don’t waste money on more than one size 60 boveda per tups of these sizes.
I do agree that these trays are perfect fit for the sistema’s and a huge upgrade also its great that it gives you plenty of air space even when the trays are completely full.
Overall i did really enjoy your video and I’m going to sub🙌🏼.
Just wanted to share what i could and maybe it can help.
Greatvideo best explanation on the tupperdor.
What a collection,I’m jealous!
Love the content thanks for the Tips and the products you use
My pleasure I’m glad you like em!
+1 for the Coolidor review/setup and specs. Btw, used your links for purchasing the System and Spanish Cedar Trays. 🤝
You can count on it! I’ll be doing that review soon. And thank you for using the links 🫡
Great info for a new cigar smoker.
Great video and info. Seeing that tupperdor full of Plasencia made me very jealous. Cheers
Thanks for the video. Really good option. Not buying an expensive humidor with this
Great video! I use Govee Mini hygrometers to monitor the temp & humidity of my tupperdors -- makes it easy to keep track of the numbers from my phone. They're super nice & tiny
Thanks! Definitely agree, the Govee hygrometers are great 👌
Great information! Subbed!
High praise and many thanks to you for these vides! They've been a life saver for my ever growing cigar collection. This is literally gonna help get me through the upcoming winter season.
Glad to hear that! Those NE and Midwest winters are no joke. I know them too well…Almost time for those short smokes and hot boxing in the car 😂
I got my container a week ago. I saw your old video.
Awsome setup, do you season the wooden trays befor adding sticks and if so what steps to you take ?
You're so right. I started with a few cigars. Now I have 170 and continue. I just "upgraded" to the next size of tupperdors like the ones you have there 🙂
Nice! You can never have too many haha
Always buy storage for double what you need most cigar smokers are bad about buying too much.
I just used your links i hope you get something for it. Thank you for all of the information bro..😊
Ty for all the great advice, I also use the 236 sistema only without the cedar tray so I can fit more cigars. It's not as pretty but the boveda last longer as they aren't fighting the cedar trays for humidity.
Great video. How strongly would you recommend 62 over 65 for long term aging?
How often do you change the battery on the hygrometer?
And thanks for the video 👍🏻
I noticed you don’t have boxes. Do you I could store full boxes in these?
I’ve been doing exactly the same. Love it !!!
It’s been a year and my 69 bovedas haven’t dried.
The best!
I hope you get many more subs. Quality content and great information. I ordered a different box without the Spanish cedar tray just to try the method out and the odor was my primary concern, hopefuly its ging to be ok.
I appreciate that!
Nice channel bro!
Do you feel the temperature gets to high? I can see on your they were at 72 degrees do you see it go higher
Did you have to trim the cedar drawers at all? I have the exact Sistema container and 2 cedar drawers I got on Amazon (each 2.25"H) so they should fit but for some reason they don't. Too high and can't get the box to seal.
I might have missed it, but should I open the lid every other week (burp it)?
I ordered 2 Mantello Cigars Cedar Trays and this same Sistema 1870 236 oz container. The dimensions were accurate, however I'm not able to stack 2 trays in the Sistema container like I see in various pics online. The container is about 1/4" short and the lid won't seal. The trays are correct dimensions, however the dimensions of the Sistema container are outside, not inside dimensions. Not quite sure how everyone is able to stack 2 of these trays and still seal the lid?
Where do you get your plasencia deals from? You teased us with your humidor walk-through
Great video, subscribed +
yes, please make another video about your perfectly kept cigars (im being serious).
Yea I’d like to know too, I’ve been watching some videos on dry boxing can you address that since you’re going straight from humidor to light?
Another killer video AJ. I would like to hear more about how you got your setup tuned to get that perfect smoke. I struggle during certain times of the year with some of my cigars not smoking properly due to the humidification. I would be really interested in hearing how your setup is dialed in and I’m sure others would as well.
Thanks again for the great video
Thanks! I’ll definitely share the steps I took to regulate the RH in my cigars
It's always good to learn how other people do it, but you need to keep in mind that depending on where you/they live the surrounding environment can be completely different, and that affects the results as well. So don't blindly follow whatever you see, and take your environment into account.
@@Kenny-yl9pc yea that’s true Kenny, it’s normally really dry where I live but when it rains for a few days it ends up completely messing with my drybox.
I’ve had some battles with RH
I switched to 62 also
Excellent content. Man you've got your methods down. Make that in-depth video AJ. What have you found to be the easiest way to season those trays? Be well.
Will do! Much appreciated! You can season them right in these containers
Can you please tell how do you season cedar trays before you use them ?Thank you.
Seasoning guide > czcams.com/video/VhM5Ec_g830/video.htmlsi=C4N8-UqKtrGPPnwE
How long ahould you season the trays for and once theyre seasoned, can you put cigars in them right away or do you let the trays sit out of the humidor as to not raise the rh in the tupperdor theyre going into.
Full video on how to season the trays dropping this weekend!
I think the area of the country you live in, and current season, greatly effects the daily RH also from hearing what different people in different locations say. I'm in Ohio and we get every bit of the four seasons. In summer (very humid here) I'm going with 62% and in winter (dry) I go with 72%. Doing this is getting at about 67% in my wood humidor continuously. The tupperdore is much easier to maintain as your saying and stays closer to my original Bovida %.
Absolutely 💯
I have a Needone 16L that I just outgrew so I’m looking to put together a tupperdor like yours. Do your cigars still age in the tupperdor with the Spanish cedar?
I have a box of Amazon basins that need a home for aging and this seems like the way
Nice those Amazon Basins are one of my favorites. They should age just fine I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t. It might even be preferred since it’s airtight.
Any thoughts or concerns on light getting to the cigars? Obviously wouldn’t leave it near a window or anything. I don’t know enough about this and would appreciate any insight. Thank you.
Direct light will dry out the cigars and Boveda packs.
thanks for all your time to make video and advise - have to revive cigars and boveda recommends 69% - but u said 62 to 65% - - that confused me a bit - will place 3 packs for each 80 cigars - also how often to replace the three packs -
If you can give your opinion if main goal is to rehydrate should use 65% or 69%?
To rehydrate dry cigars you need to go up in humidity slowly over a few weeks. Otherwise they will crack and damage from quick RH jumps. If you can start as low as 58rh for 2 weeks > 62 rh 2 weeks > 65 rh 2 weeks. 65RH is the highest I would go that’s good for storage.
So the cedar trays dry out after a while? I bought these exact products and they were working great for a couple months but lately I’ve notice my hygrometer and cigars going down to 54-56
I seasoned my trays with a new sponge and distilled water
Not at all. Especially after months of being stable in a Tupperdor. Sounds like an air leak or something else that dried them. Definitely need to recalibrate the hygrometer too.
do i need to season the cedar trays before stacking the cigars in the Tupperdor ? if yes for how long before i can stack the cigars in the tupperware ? thanks
Yes definitely need to season them. Video on it dropping this weekend!
Hi AJ ! Do you still recommend the use of 62% Boveda packs for those Sistema 7 liter tupperdor case? I noticed you also use 65% packs ... What RH level do you get with those two pack values? Are your hygrometers calibrated? Cheers mate!
Definitely I still use 62% in everything.
I was being cheap and didn’t want to waste those 65% packs lol Actually, I just recently had to replace them with 62% of course 👍
How does one calibrate the ‘temperature’ reading on that kind of a hygrometer?
I know how to calibrate the humidity, using boveda calibration kits, but how to do the temperature calibration?
I tried calibrating it to my Needone humidor. Eventually I just left it alone. Seems accurate enough on temps.
Hello, is it preferable to leave the cellophane on the cigars or is it better to remove it when storing them? Thank you
I would leave them on 👍
I told my wife that I would only smoke a few cigars a week. LOL I have 4 tupperware humidors and a larger one for boxes.
And a Drew Estates coffin packed full of some great sticks.
Thanks again for the great video.
LOL it was inevitable. Thanks for watching!
1. Get an airtight container
2. Use plenty of Spanish cedar
3. Use 2way Bovedas
4. Get a digital hygrometer
5. One for COFFEE-INFUSED, one for Botanical-infused & one for Traditional Cigars. That's how a Real Cigar Aficionado DO IT... we have a variety. And our Dutch Master Corona (President) need no humidification😂
7:48 I have those same Sistema 236oz tupidors. When you close them do you have to push down on the top firmly before closing the clamps? I have two cheap humidity readers that both read 68 which should be correct but I have a $10 one similar to the on you have and it reads 55%. I’m using 65% bovedas so I am unsure what is causing these different reads
Trust the bovedas over the hygros. Also, the lid drops right on, no pressure needed.
@@sigmanado have you ever thrown in different boveda % to get the middle % of the two different ones ? For example two 65% and two 69% in the same tupperdor
For risk of spontaneous combustion I haven’t 😂
Apart to a wooden humidor, I use a small Tupperware for about 25 cigars with a 72% boveda but after my hydrometer showing 73-74% I removed. Now after long time showing 69% with any humidifier and I thing is the perfect Ph for me. Do you think is that ok?
If they're smoking good for you then that's great for now. But soon, you will have to add some Boveda to maintain the humidity.
Can you provide any information on how to season the cedar trays that you use in the Tupperdor?
Definitely making a vid on it
@@sigmanadoawesome! Love your content!
Almost all reviewers of these Sistema are using/showing the 7l (236 oz) version. What could be the reasons why nobody seems to use the larger 9.6l (338 oz) version, especially when they have so many cigars to store like you do? The larger boxes are even 10 dollar cheaper on Amazon where I live because everyone seems to be buying the smaller version because of the general recommendation LOL. You would think that it's more convenient to have less tupperware and it looks less messy in your room without all these (cheap looking) plastic boxes laying around. The first one is: L 355mm x H 120mm x W 235mm the larger one: L 357mm x H 160mm x W 260mm. In the first one you can stack 3X 10 cigar boxes which are 3,2 cm in height. In the larger Sitema you can stash 5 boxes. Personally, I prefer to keep the cigars in the original boxes unless someone could give good arguments that the wooden boxes somehow mess up the boveda/humidity/cigars in the tupperdor.
I use Boveda 72 ph for my premium cigars. Should I switch to 62 ?
Definitely switch to something lower. 65RH or 62RH is perfect
Can I use this method to store cigar boxes that are still sealed?
Absolutely. You can leave them sealed or crack them open a bit if you think they’re under humidified.
Why do you store the cigars at 62%?
Do you most recommend the Needone in the description or the coolador?
Assuming you mean Needone vs Tupperdor? Both are great options. Temp control being the deciding factor for the Needone. It also looks presentable if you just want something aesthetic.
Hi AJ, Do you think there is enough room for me to fit the Boveda Brushed Aluminum 1-Pack holders in there with the racks? How much space is there on the sides?
It’s pretty tight. Can just barely fit the regular boveda pack in there with just a little wiggle room
@@sigmanado Thanks AJ
No problem
Nice video AJ! I’m new to your channel and I have a set up similar to yours but without the Govee hygrometer but looking to get one. One question though do you have to calibrate the one you have with the Boveda calibration kit or if not how Don you calibrate it. Thanks man
Welcome 💪 You can definitely calibrate them using Boveda packs and I would use the same RH that you keep your cigars in. This’ll make them the most accurate imo
Anyone knows if this fits into an 48L electric humidor (with removed drawers)
It’ll fit but it doesn’t leave any room for airflow from front to back.
@@sigmanadoare you 100% sure? I measured my humidor, it would be so tight i just cant tell if it would fit or not without actually trying.
Regarding the airflow i dont mind, the airflow is only to circulate humidity it has no effect on the cooling and as the tupperware will have its own boveda in it, the fan would be useless anyway for those The fan is in the upper part of the humidor so it will still have effect for the upper part. I want 1 drawer in the top and 2 or 3 of these boxes below :)
I purchased the exact same items as recommended in your video and was very disappointed to find that the container lid would not close with two stacked trays (all dimensions checked out precisely). Any recommendations?
Actually, with great effort I was able to force the lid closed, but I’m worried about over-stressing the polymer hinges. Is this your experience?
This is very odd, sorry to hear that! There should be plenty of room for them to close. Myself and many others with similar setups have no clearance issues.
I did read an Amazon review of the Mantello trays that expressed the same issue I’m having, said that with the 236 oz. Sistema container the lid would not close over two stacked trays. Unexplained phenomenon, I guess. Hopefully the stressed polymer hinges on my container will relax over time without cracking or breaking. Thanks.
This video is very informative. I’ve got three humidors each with a capacity to hold 50 cigars. Looks like I'll ditch the wood box for a more favourable way to store my cigars. 😊
Hey glad you enjoyed the video! Just wanted to mention there’s nothing wrong with wood humidors. Tupperdors that I talk about are great simple/cheap option to start with. But if you have a setup that’s working for you already, I wouldn’t sweat it!
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Hey just couple of questions. Is it ok if i just leave my cigars in the
tupperdor without any wood and they're touching the plastic? And is it ok that my cigars touch the boveda pack?
Yeah they will be just fine like that even if touching the boveda packs 👌
@@sigmanado thank you so much man. definitely subbing
Welcome aboard 🫡
@@sigmanado oh just another question, for a single boveda 69% 8gram pack how many cigars should i put in my tupperdor?
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62. Or 65. Yup. Right😊
Alright everyone laugh and point I'm a noob and use the two boveda packs you say not use (69&72%) why not and which should I use?
Word on the street is sometimes a boveda pack can register 1%- 2% higher than it says on the pack and you're trying to stay at the 70% humidity and 70⁰ mark or under then you're better off with the 62%-65% boveda pack. Just make sure you don't mix the percentages in the same container otherwise they will battle eachother lol. Cheers!
Do you find that 69% boveda in a air tight jar over humidify?
Way too high
@@sigmanado do you find that since I switch from 69% to 65% the cigars Will eventually start to loose some of that extra moisture?
Good move switching 65%. Just give them some time, they’ll get there eventually
@@sigmanado looking back I think is ironic that Boveda literally says use 69% in air containers, and it will never over humidify which isn’t true
Yep and it’s worse when cigars are over humidified going in.
Nobody talks about temperature. How important is temperature ? I struggle to keep it below 27 Celsius 😢
Very! Too high temp is a recipe for mold
@@sigmanado any temperature tips for us living in hot climates? 7/12 months I am at 30 Celsius indoor.
@@ThomasMylonas Oof man that is scary high for such a long time. A cooling humidor is the only solution. In the meantime, keep the humidity low at 62-65 until you upgrade. You have Cubans in there, I'm assuming? You gotta watch out for beetles at that temp as well as mold.
@@sigmanado actually since I am beginner I created my first Tupperdor before 15 days. I keep my average temperature at 27 Celsius and my RH at 70-71% (didnt know about 62-65, everybody was recommending 70+ and the first time I heard about lower RH was with you) while holding 8 cigars (mostly Nicaraguans) inside. So far so good to be honest and nothing seems wrong but I am worrying a lot about mold. What if I keep it for some hours in fridge during the day, keeping a rotation and lowering the average temperature? Will you think it might work?
Oh I see it’s only been a couple weeks. Well, don’t cycle them in the refrigerator. Best to keep the temp stable. For a few weeks maybe even a month they’ll be fine to smoke. If you start to really get into the hobby and storing cigars for longer than that, it’s time for a Coolidor 😎
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Hello "Sigmanado". Bobeda themselves recommend 69% for airtight containers. I would think they know better...
I used the 69s in my tupperdor. I found it a little more moist than I wanted and had issues with smoke production. Just switched to 65 and it's great!
Way too moist. Have multiple air tight gasket storage tubs filled with whole boxes of cigars and did 69% rh boveda packs and they always came out too humidified. Burn issues was a problem but a bigger problem would've been mold.
i use 69 in systema tubs
Why is 69% boveda bad?
It has its uses in other style humidors. For this setup specifically it’s too high because it’s airtight.
it's amazing to see millennial kids talking about putting cigars in tupperware. If you can't buy at least one cedar humidor that holds 25 cigars then you shouldn't be smoking cigars. Really, you don't have to spend $300 dollars on a humidor you can get any budget cedar humidor at any cigar shop for $50 dollars and that is the cost of 5 decent cigars unless you buy white owls at a gas station. Seriously, I don't know anyone who smokes cigars that doesn't have at least one cedar humidor, one small travel humidor that holds between 3 and 15 sticks, a cuter, lighter and a carry case. Stealing your moms tupperware is what a loser does.
he has cedar shelves in the tupperware. it’s scientifically a better option. if you’re spending less than $300 on a humidor, it probably doesn’t work that well, especially over long periods of time. there are fine working humidors out there but they are 1.expensive 2.mostly a statement piece, because they look more appealing 3. of a concept that was invented before tupperware was…
@@swampsquanch thank God they charge a ridiculous amount of money for the lounges I go to. This keeps out booger eating kids with plastic Tupperware they stole from Mommy. Lol... Since none of them own a house, I don't have to worry about them moving in next to me. 👍
@@anthonym.3931 bro you’re buying the $50 humis, stfu😂😂
and you’re liking your own comments
@@anthonym.3931you sure take this cigar thing pretty seriously