It doesn’t get any easier than this! Tupperdor How-To
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- What's up guys, in this video I'm sharing the simple and fool-proof way to store your sticks. I've been through it all when it comes to storage and this is by far the best method!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:55 RH Too Low
1:35 RH Too High
2:53 Ideal RH
4:17 Ideal Temp
4:34 The KISS Method
5:55 Burp it
6:15 Some nice additions - Jak na to + styl
Check it out! I did an in-depth review of my Tupperdor here czcams.com/video/HIZ5HPieuZE/video.html
I love this set up. I keep 2 in an old radio cabinet with glass in the door. It allows me to read the hygrometer in each tupperdor and keep an eye on them without fussing. When I want to to travel, I use a small one with cedar slices and toss my bovida in and head out. Best storage cigar hack!
Neat trick with these tupperdores: Use the 360gram boveda pack on the lower tray along with a small cup of Distilled water. The pack will regulate the RH and recharge itself over time from the cup of water because of it's 2 way design. I have had a 360gram 65% in my Sistema humidor with 2 Spanish cedar trays for over a year now and it's still soft, supple and keeping the RH where I like it. Just top off the cup each time you burp if needed, it's really efficient and saves tons of money. I keep a 2nd Sistema setup at 62% for my daily smokes or getting ready to smoke sticks, same setup and works beautifully. I keep the Wooden cabinet humidor for my serious collections using Cigar Oasis humidifier as the Cabinet houses up to 500 sticks.
P.S Remember just use the big 360gr Bovedas in these plus the water, really is simple as set and forget.
I’m in WA state, RH is over 80% most of the year. I’m a new smoker, but it surprised me how much I love a good cigar. I can’t get through a day now without enjoying one. Appreciate the tips! These little details I’m finding really are super important for the perfect smoke. Thanks for the help! Much appreciated!
I'm in Forks. Same.
Great video and advice. Very solid information for the new wave of cigar enthusiasts. You just saved a lot of people time and frustration from trial and error.
That's the goal! Thanks
Also, one thing that people aren’t aware of on why people started using cedar wood is also because it’s a insect repellent type material. It’s not just for looks and smell friendly to humans.
Yes but for Cigars it must be Spanish Cedar, there is a difference. Regular cedar will work but is much stringer in smell and can cause issues with taste in your Cigars. Spanish Cedar only costs a small amount more usually at a similar price to Cedar, it also has a good Cedar smell but not as Strong as regular Cedar which is why it's the best in slot for humidors.
I appreciated this video. I just purchased the Sistema container and the additional information was really helpful! Cheers!
Amazing info. Thanks for your input!
Absolutely great info, Sistema’s are my go to for cigar storage. Just give them some air once a week or so. Great for aging, everyone enjoy the smoke!
Finely someone gave me perfect and correct explanation .
Thank you sir 🤝
Welcome 👍
I use tupperdors with 62% Boveda packs. The airtight seal keeps them in a range of 63-65%.
Anything between 62-65% is perfect in my opinion
Same here 63% is a sweet spot for me
Nice bro! Thanks!
amazing video and great explanation, friend! Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Totally agree, after so much struggling... I moved to sealed containers with humidity packs and ceder wood... its great
Definitely, it just works so well
great video! i see u just started on youtube. you got alot of potential. keep the awesome videos coming!
Definitely, I appreciate your comment and the response it's getting. Plenty more to come!
Great video 👍🏼
Thanks brother.
i knew you know what you are on about when I saw all those Fuegos! my favorite cigar! i got alot of singles of a variety, but i got atleast 3 boxes of Fuegos at any given time
Haha yes sir! Honestly, the entire Plasencia lineup is just *chefs kiss*
Thank you brother
Thank you for this information been a pipe smoker just getting into cigars ,I spend too much on my pipes that I can't seem to get a humidor lol.
Glad to help, this'll get your cigars set up easily
I found that a little dry cigar is better than a little too wet cigars.
Not just the draw, but flavor itself too. A little too wet cigars just taste like burned tire, where as the flavor is actually accentuated when a cigar is a little dry.
I use a 62rh and 65rh boveda in an unplugged tall wine cooler with fans. Sectional wine cooler.
Only place I can store is in my room that gets really hot when I’m not there and don’t have the ac on. So I had to buy a thermo/fridge humidor to protect my cigars.
Great advice was wondering where you got the cedar shelves for the sistema thx
The cedar trays are here amzn.to/44lRGP8
All links in the description as well
Great video brother! Nicely stated and easy to understand. I look forward to watching you grow and get integrated more into the industry. Let me know if you need any help.
Thanks for the kind words, there's def more to come!
Great content. Those cedar trays look like they were made for those bins.
Exactly! No other containers have this good of fit
I am trying to start my cigars humidor, I already got a myself tupperdor and cedar tray and
a few 65% Boveda pack following their official site recommendation for the size of box.
The thing is: I live in tropical country and the humidity is 80% to 100% around the year,
and temperature around 82F to 93F
After seeing your video mentioning the mold problem, I'm now so worry about mold growing,
do you have any solution to my problem?
Please let me know.
Thank you.
Thanks for the great video. One thing to note is that the cedar trays that you linked to are 2.25" in height. Stacking two of them in one Sistema 264 is too tall for the lid to close.
Not sure if they changed the size or something else? The ones I have stack with plenty of clearance for the lid.
as someone in california whos home is usually around 80-85 degrees in the summer (nothing i can do about it) should i go down to 62rh bovedas instead of my current 69rh that i was using in the winter?
Yeah at those temps I would not be comfortable with 69%. Maybe test out a batch in a small Tupperdor with 62% or 65%?
Edit: if you’re using a Tupperdor. Wood is probably gtg
@@sigmanado yeah im using a xikar travel humidor as my main desk humidor basically, i removed all the foam so it can hold more than 40 cigars and i have a smaller one that holds about 10-15 in case i get some infused cigars. i just ordered some 62rh bovedas im gonna keep 2-3 in the big container and 1 in the small container. wish me luck!
Should plastic wrappers be removed from individual cigars for long term storage? Also, the same question but for aluminum tubes? Thank you.
You mean the cellophane? Best it stays on. For tubes, just remove the cap but leave them in the tube and store with the others.
How long does a boveda pack work before needing to be replaced? assuming "room temp and humidity in the southern usa
In a tupperdor, it can last a year +plus
Great information, thank you.
I know you like 62% or 65% relative humidity paks, but what physical size are you using? I’m a little confused about that.
Not sure if you figured it out but they're size 67
Yes sir. I realized shopping the Boveda site. I’m not crazy about their website but you help us a lot. Thanks again!
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My apartment pretty much stays well in high 70s to low 80s and even into low 90s on hot days being in California.
Would I be safe from Beatles activities or molds with 62%RH in my case?
Thank you very much for your help.
With 62RH you might be good but it’s risky. I wouldn’t keep many expensive cigars like this. I do have tupperdors at 75-77deg for a long time with no issues tho
I'm so lost on how to organize the tupperdors themselves. I have multiple ones with them storing different types of cigares based on brand/country of the wrapper. Is it needed to keep them seperate like that or is it not needed at all?
Nah bro it’s not necessary at all. But the Number 1 rule is separate any flavored/infused cigars from normal cigars.
Since you have the space, I’d separate by dark and light wrappers and be done with it. But as long as they have cellophane you can mix them all you want it’s no biggie.
@@sigmanado thank you so much for clearing things up!
Are cedar trays the montelo brand sold at Amazon ?Thank you.
Yes they are
Hey, did you say you did a video on calibrating your hygrometer?
Haven’t done a full vid but there is a quick rundown here czcams.com/users/clipUgkxqQqsdRSfTtzBB0_Hzo8Kiakn_2ohjuqI?si=gNuVEmuGBw4yL53m
Boveda and forget it! Change when needed and rotate humidor every 3 to 4 months. 70/70 is a good place to start with temperature and humidity in the humidor you use. Make sure you season all cedar humidors so you don't rob moister from cigars! Great video and review for beginners that need the help! 💯💨
Or rotate everyday if you’re like me trying to pick the “right” smoke😂
@@sigmanado 😄Basicly! When we search for that cigar, we technically are rotating daily!!!
@@sigmanadohow long do you season it for and what boveda do you use the 84% how many packs ?
Hello, good afternoon. I can still store my cigars long term at 75% humidity? . Thanks and greetings from Mexico
Hey brother, that humidity is way too high
can you put whole boxes in them and be okay? or do you need to unpack them?
whole boxes are just fine
What cooling humidor do you use? I'm thinking about buying one of the KingChii/Needone style humidors. I live in an apartment in NYC. When I'm not home in the summer the AC is off and can reach in the 80s in room temperature. In the Winter room temps are in the 50s until I get home and raise the heat. Do you recommend one of those cooling/heated units?
Yeah with extreme temps like that you pretty much have to go with a cooling/heating model. I went with a Needone 48L model. After doing some research, it just made the most sense for the price/capacity plus the cooling and heating feature. It's this one here amzn.to/3RkM7h2
@@sigmanado What Boveda RH do you use for the Needone? I like to keep my cigars at 65 RH so I use 62RH in the tupperdors since they run a little higher in air tight containers. Do they run higher in your Needone as well? Also, how did you season it? Thanks for the tutorial videos and advice.
@@ctrain24 No problem! I'm using 3x320g 62%RH in the Needone 48L. I have 5 drawers loaded with sticks in it. And yep, it reads a tad higher around ~62-65%RH depending on the shelf position. I seasoned the drawers in giant ziploc freezer bags.
Where can i get those Spanish cedar trays in Europe? Great chanel! Keep it going!
Thank you! Here's a link to the cedar trays, lmk if it works amzn.to/3tVJysc
I envy you guys in USA and other places where you don,t have to deal with a Government that is against smoking like Australia,they put so much tax on cigarettes and Cigars that it is almost prohibitive to smoke. A 20 pack of cigarettes is A$45. The cigars I get cost me A$30,these are non branded 1hour cigars,the branded ones like davidoff are A$60- A$75 and these are the 40 minute ones. As you can imagine I don't get the chance to have a good smoke very often. I can't even buy cheaply in USA and have them posted to me as customs add Australian tax to them. They think they are doing me a favour, but at 75 I don't need them looking after my health,or my lifestyle. Too much of a nanny state. anyway ,keep enjoying your cigars, Ray from Australia.
i saw a ton of aussies/new zealanders in vung tau , vietnam. many bought their tobacco there or black market. saved a bundle.
How many 65% packs should I use in a tuppadore bow same size that you showed
The rule of thumb is 60g per 25 cigars a container can store. In the video he says it can hold 70 easy and could actually hold way more than that, but to keep it at 70. I would call "way more than that" around 100 total cigars. So, I would start at 4 60g boveda packs and see how it does. With the container being airtight, you may be able to get away with 3, depending on the relative humidity in your specific region. Or if the estimate is off, and it could hold 125, you may end up needing to add one more. I personally have 3 similar tupperware containers with cedar trays and I'm doing great holding 65% with 4 in each.
I've used 3-4 and it's been great
Ditched my traditional wood humidor for this years ago.
This is the way 😎
Other question that invariably surfaces, the wrapper dilemma! With Systema will that be even necessary to consider? Again, ask ten smokers, get ten answers.I couldn’t tell from your photos which option you were using? Thanks
I might do a video on this because there's uses with/without cellophane. Right now all of my cigars are in cellophane wrappers.
Thanks for yourfeedback. Since you mention cellophane, i do remember one smoker distinguishing cellophane from another type of wrapper but i cant remember the other type of wrap he was referring to. Maybe you can fill in with your next video.
The 70/70 rule is so outdated we just need to stop mentioning it period. I hear it quite often people will respond to the question “what’s the best RH for cigars” with some variation of “traditionally folks used to say follow the 70/70 rule”. If no one follows that rule anymore then let’s just stop leading our answer with that, don’t even put that thought in to newbies minds. Just come right out with the current best answer. I haven’t heard anyone recommend 70/70 since 2002 lol. I change my RH with the season. Higher in the winter, lower in the summer. I also have different RH for different cigars. Cubans seem to like 62-65% year round.
It's funny you say this, as I was making this video I honestly was going to omit the whole 70/70 thing out. But I left it in because I think it's good to know where we came from and how we arrived to lower RH being better.
@@sigmanado it does add a bit backstory.
What is your recommendation of lower and of higher in winter?
@@jeffpeters5963 Depends where you winter really. I go all the way to 72% at times, sometimes down to 69%. You just have to experiment. Some places the seasons may not be a factor at all. Maybe @sigmacigar has some suggestions too. It’s hard to suggest to anyone “go with XX%” because their home, their environment, their climate will be different than your own. My humidors are kept in the man cave which is a converted garage. So it stays cool and concrete floors which keep it dry. I adjust my Boveda quite often throughout the year.
It’s funny I used to be super obsessed with cigars before I had kids in the late 90s and am just getting back into them and it’s like a different world lol. Tupperdors and buveda packs, no more 70/70 rule etc. it’s crazy. It’s like after 25 years of someone told you the whole water freezing at 32 Fahrenheit isn’t a thing anymore.
Like Pokemons i want to collect them all, they look so pretty. At the moment I am getting more enjoyment from collecting rather than smoking 😂
Oh boy I know the feeling 😂
I’ve tried with different humidors and setups and always had issues maintaining 65%-67% rh.
Tupperware + Boveda is just so easy. Can’t recommend it enough.
It just works! 🤝
Just use boveda 65% rh or lower... Any higher will mold...
Ok...humidity is fine inside tupperdore...outside temp is 82...what happens when you cant control the temp...i use the same sytemas...
I would highly recommend at cooling humidor. That temp is too high for long term
What’s cigars did you have in there? Not familiar with those wraps.
Plasencia and they're amazing!
I always faceing an issue at the 3rd part of cigars, it went off usually.... How can I get over this thing
Most likely it’s too high humidity. Drybox to bring the humidity down
@@sigmanado one day before smoking will be fine?
@@hossamdrweesh yeah 1 day dry box is a good for this issue or even a few hours. But also touch up your cigar if you see it tunneling 👍
@@sigmanado actually It didn't tunel at all or any burning issues, just it went off at the last third
@@hossamdrweesh Ok try it out and lmk!
Cigars that produce no smoke and go out all the time is the worst my humidor sits around 67 but I had two poor smokes on the weekend that I had to fight the cigar the whole time so I’m going to let it drop down further
I know it's the worst! Try dryboxing the next one for 12 to 24 hours
@@sigmanado will have to give that a shot
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You aren’t the firs to recommend the Systematic products. Thanks. One question/addition :two other cigar suggestions regarding Systema. others have also included cedar strips in the container. Good idea or just experimentation on the smoker’s part? And wht is the better hygrometer to use? So many out there.
@@johndykty890 Cedar strips are great for adding a nice aroma. I like the Govee hygrometers, they connect to an app amzn.to/3L86Wsp
You should put emphases on sealed Tupperware and not just clipped Tupperware. I use glass Tupperware with sealed clips, use glass for cooler temps.
Definitely! An airtight Tupperware is the way to go. Especially if humidity in the environment is higher.
Have you noticed any difference in your cigars with 62% vs 65% rh?
Just that 62% has been ready to burn immediately without dryboxing.
@@sigmanadoI respect anyone that informs other smokers about moisture control in regards to cigars. I still enjoy my method of dry boxing better. It’s the best way to fine tune a cigar that I have found, but you have some really good information in this video!
Anyone can make anything complicated. For some it’s a religion that people go through for that experience and sense of virtue. I’m a simple guy, Tupperware with dates on post-its, inexpensive digital hydrometers, and boveda packs.
69 percent is perfect for me. But to each their own. Don’t make it too complicated
These trays no longer fit the Sistema, I think they changed them.
No way?! That’s a bummer
Cedar Humidor is better