Jesse Lee Peterson VS Jeff Durbin (Kind of)
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2017
- Popular Conservative commentator, Jesse Lee Peterson, had Jeff Durbin on his national radio program for the second time. This time Jeff and the crew joined him in his studio in Los Angeles. They spent time talking #endabortionnow and then things (once again) took a turn toward cringe. It is apparent that Jesse holds to a very unbiblical view of sin and salvation and Jeff and Jesse scrap a bit.
We hope that it blesses you in some way. It's a fantastic example of why learning exegesis and sound Biblical hermeneutics is so important. Jesse is all over the place and it is abundantly clear that he isn't at all familiar with how we got our Bibles.
Strange thing is:
Jesse is known as Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson and is the pastor (of a church he founded).
If nothing else, this is at least entertaining.
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"I walk in the truth and I hate my sin."
Well said Jeff, well said.
The Book of Romans.
Amen!
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
What is sin? Sounds like he's lying because he don't even know what sin is.
@sirturdaloter141 to sin is to walk outside the will of God. Quite literally, it is to "miss the mark." We all sin. The difference between the Christian and everyone else is that the Christian lives in the grace and forgiveness of God through Jesus Christ. The non-Christian does not rely on Christ for his salvation and, therefore, can not please God. See Romans 8:7-9.
I am so glad someone finally gave Jesse some scripture about sin to chew on.
Yea, I pray for Jesse
He calls Christians Bible thumpers like that would be shameful. Sad.
The entire meaning of the bible is Christ defeated sin so 🤷♂️
@@guesswho6925
correct....for those the fathers gives to Him...towards those who are repented and
believing....like jesus says himself with those quotes
Jesses doesn’t read the Bible regularly (his words, not mine) nor does he interpret it correctly.
Jeff was trying to help him. 🙏🏽
This was the first time that I've heard someone quote 1st John to Jesse.
I'm glad that someone is being a witness to him.
Jesse clearly takes the position that the scripture he quotes is legit, and the ones that the Bible Thumpers quote are not. An example is John 1. Very clearly Jesus is the Word depicted in John’s Gospel and is therefore, Divine. He is God. Not the Father, but God the Son.
Thats not all hes wrong about, he says Jesus Christ is not God, denies the triune God
@@matthewblackwood4704 🤦🏻♂ - Is he even a Christian? He says he does not sin! What does that make him? 😥
Jesse knows more about I Jn. 5:18 than Durban may ever know.
Durban is on a roll, but not on a good roll. He is unduly combative in resisting the truth on Christian exemption from sinning-- Jn. 3:9.
Thank you Jeff for boldly calling out Jessie’s false doctrine about Christian’s ongoing battle with sin and ever present need for the blood and grace of the cross!❤️
FACTS....Remember Jesse doesn't study the WORD OF GOD. He already knows it.. LOL
Let's [PRAY FOR HIM]
@@jayrocky9067 These so called Christians enjoy attacking other Christians, they don't pray for them.
😂😂 yall love yall sin so badly.
@@JerBaez23who you talking to, troll?
I love Jesse but he definately has a wrong view of what it means to be born again. He preaches that those who are regenerated will achieve sinless perfection this side of heaven but the Bible simply DOES NOT teach this. The born again believer is at war with their sin and they actually hate their sin but they are being sanctified and continually being conformed to the image of Christ. The difference between an unbeliever and someone who is born again is that the unbeliever is dead in their trespasses and sin but someone who is regenerated does not make a practice of sin.
At what time did Jeff say this?
so sorry April. Jesse. i was reading too fast. If you say you have no sin you deceive yourself
But the Bible does say to be perfect, be holy. Why ignore that? Call-in to my show: 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
+Jesse Lee Peterson do you sin sir? Are you perfect? How do you stay as perfect as you are?
Jesse Lee Peterson I thought you said we shouldn’t trust the Bible?
let us pray for jesse 🙏
Honestly ur right... Pray for me and the stupid people in my country 🙏😊
i always do but i think there is no hope... he's a lost cause
The children of Satan always want to pray for Jesse.
Yes, pray for him. I'm not to sure about him. I try to watch some of his shows, I get a witness that something doesn't add up to GOD'S TRUTHS!
@jlptalk Yea they trying to get you to stop being homosexual predator
Jeff is a all around genius, political,biblical etc
Jesses theology is totally off the rails!
That is why he mocked people with degrees
@@sifisokaula1870 degrees in what? Theology? History? Jesse is brutally honest in the gospel! U cannot preach the gospel with sin and say it’s for God!
@@guesswho6925 yes theology and history check his interview with pastor Anderson to see his challenges in understanding the bible
Jeese got schooled...
@@guesswho6925 JESSE DIENIES THAT JESUS IS GOD
Jeff and I may have our disagreements… but I’m very grateful that he was able to refute Jesse’s heretical and wicked theology in the presence of Jesse’s audience. I know Jesse has now had Jeff and Ray Comfort on, I hope he has more believers on the show to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ!!
@@jeep1927 many things, but all of our disagreements trickle down to two core things: The way he interprets scripture and the way he apply’s scripture.
I won’t go into much more detail than that because I find that if you’ve listened to him for a while then you know about it and either agree with him or have stopped following him. So there’s no reason to convince people that don’t want to be convinced
@@elijah4840 lol. Well, you've done a fine job of " not convincing anybody".
What a mission, dude.
@@dannymccarty344 Jeff is a Calvinist, which is a blasphemous teaching against the cross of Christ. It is a heady doctrine for those who don't believe the plain words of scripture.
@@hermonymusofsparta I dont defend Jeffs position.
I defend Gods Holy Word. The Word became flesh. To know God, is to know his Word. His Word santifys us.
Jesse preaches a god contrary to Gods Word. Another god, not the God of his Holy Word.
@@hermonymusofsparta Not true
Jeff -“ they have 1000 abortions a day”
Jesse- “amazing”...... lmfao not really
Are you evil?
A false teacher will always fall back on questioning the validity of the Bible.
Lucifer thought he was more important than God that is why he was chased from heaven not believing in Bible is equal to lucifer
facts
They have to, because the Bible (God’s word) proves true. False claims can’t be proven true.
And this guy has a church
I didn't discern that, but that's true. I wondered why he always repeats a question and wanting you to agree with him, but not explain to him the reason for your answer.
Jeff, you always handle yourself so well.. hope I can be like that one day..
Hayate Mishima yes, I agree
You can! It takes a ton of practice!
Stay in the word daily
Not knowing much about Jesse Peterson; it appears that he has some learning to do in the scripture. Thank you Jeff for representing the best way possible.
Don Jones god not Bible dude
@@littlemoto1 scripture points to God, and scripture is what makes us stand firm psalms 1:1-3 Jeremiah 17 scripture is what saves Roman’s 10:17, James 1:21-22, 1 Peter 2:2. Why? Because it is Gods words
Hopefully you've learned the Scriptures more accurately since your post.
Yes, I agree. He had Ray Comfort on and I truly hope Ray spoke to him more closely after the interview. This guy, I believe did a better job answering Jesse's questions.
Jeff has some part dark, when a true Christian has no part dark. He did not represent Christ-likeness when he said a Christian still sins.
I used to listen to jesse lee for entertainment, but then I quit because I wasn't being spiritually fed. Jesse is a little hard headed in some areas and fairly misguided on biblical truth. he tends to pick and choose certain things from the bible for his arguing points and then when someone tells him he's taking scripture out of context he says, " naw man you confusing me." while Jesse is well meaning, I really hope he seeks the knowledge of the word of God and not the knowledge of the mind of Jesse. I sadly dissagree with most of his ideas as I wish he would learn the word a lot better, but I appreciate his zeal. with that said, I'm glad Jeff tore him to shreds in this interview.
You should have called-in with your disagreements and criticisms. 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT (8-11am CT / 9-noon ET. If you really listened to me you'd know I welcome it.
Louis Anthony How is jesse hard headed? He speaks God's word directly. What's hard headed about that?
He comes off a bill Cosby without the rape
Louis Anthony that's all Christians
My posts and perspectives can be seen in the posts of Annabelle's "Jesse is right ..." and Hanzo's "Black leaders ..." threads, respectively here in czcams.com/video/jxxHYyJKg-w/video.html
Great job Jeff!! Wow this is pretty amazing that you are so patient because it was fustrating to listen to. People believe they are right and never once pause and listen for the truth (the original information). You can tell by his first response that he wasn't going to be corrected. I pray that you planted a seed in him and in his listeners for the truth. God bless you.
Why is it frustrating? Children of God should not become frustrated. Call-in with your questions, comments and disagreements: 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET jlptalk.com
Why call in when you only took one call and disrespected the caller by trying to insert your thought of sin during the call. If that question is soooo important to you, why didn’t you let Jeff respond. Don’t say “there wasn’t enough time” because you certainly made time to insert your view.
@jlptalk Jesse was you buck broken by the white men on the plantation are was you buck breaking little young white boys behind the out house
This brother is obviously very confused on the issue of sin. He is also very confused about the the purity of the text and it's transmission through the ages. If he is saying the word of God changes over time, because people have re-written it, then there is nothing in the text he can trust, and he shouldn't be quoting the word. What a messed up and inconsistent hermeneutic methodology.
Thanks Jeff for correcting his false teachings!!!
Jesse is not a Christian Brother.
I have heard him a few times. He knows and quotes some scripture accurately. He seems to rely on common sense quite a bit which is not a bad thing if he saturates his mind and heart each day with the K.J.V. bible. Where the book of Is. 1:18 says Come now let us reason together, I believe Jesse places this over even reading the bible. But it stands to reason that we should take literally what the apostles said about Christian immunity from sinning after our sins are washed away. This seems like a starting point for Jesse, and he is correct on that tenet of the faith. I have also heard that he denies the Trinity of Persons in God, and for that I would say, more power to him.
what was that???? I never thought Jesse believed the way he did ...does he actually believe he does not sin? It is shocking he should never preach
He does. I pray he is saying he is covered by the blood of Jesus, so his sin is washed away.
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
What is sin?
Bless his heart,he’s a little retarded
@sirtudalotir141 The Bible describes what sin is, you should definitely go read it!
What an absolutely ridiculous argument to say you no longer sin! What's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian? The Christian HATES his sin. The Christian begins to sin less and less as he grows in Christ but he doesn't stop sinning.
Then why did Jesus say "Go and sin no more"?
Justin Villada The OutDoor Son Because why would someone who loves you and knows the consequence of sin not tell you to not sin???
Justin Villada The OutDoor Son Because he hates sin.
Justin Villada The OutDoor Son amen
we thepeople amen
As Christians we are supposed to turn away from as much sin as possible. We can't always control our minds in a moment of anger, or judgemental thoughts, but we can stop and ask God to forgive us. Christians feel guilty and remorseful when they sin. The non believers do not. Come on Jesse. Get it together.
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
Jeff, I love you man! I so appreciate your ministry, its changed my life.
great perspective by Jeff about lawlessness and lack of morals when speaking about moral character and racism
Mr. Peterson seems like a nice man but he can sure learn a lot from Dr. James White.
I love when brothers differ like this. It makes me feel "normal" as I wrestle with such things within myself.
What Dr. White calls a "Teachable Moment". Thanks for the post Apologia!
Oh, that was painful to watch. Jesse seems like such a nice man but he is so so wrong when it comes to scripture.
Call-in to my show sometime and correct me! 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
God bless you Jeff!!! Way to stay true!!!
Good interview kept me wanting more. Two respectful men having a civil discussion. Unfortunately we still sin even after our baptism of fire. The law can not be kept by man. I’m sure Jesse has worn two different types of materials in his clothing. I’m sure he’s went to a store or filled up his gas tank or worked on the sabbath. That’s why we need Christ and his blood for atonement. Gods Love to you all.
Thank you so much Jeff for these videos. They have taught me so much and I can see Christ working through you
Good Job Jeff, very well said Biblically. Amen.
I think my head is going to explode! I really, really want to like JLP, but for crying out loud, his Biblical analysis is warped beyond warped. He has no idea how to read and understand Scripture.
Gregory Johnston god not Bible dude
Gregory, call-in to my show, and let's discuss how to read and understand Scripture: 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
You a Mormon that's why @Jesse Lee Peterson
jorge moreno Who is God?
Well he's black and slow... his words. 🤣
Thank you Pastor Durbin! I have heard Jesse many times on other programs I listen to, and he has many great standings to "some Christian doctrine"... but, It wasn't until this "kind or debate" did you DRAW him out to the unbiblical doctrine he holds too that you were able to clearly prove. The fact that you called him out in a loving manner was like many other times in your debates. Though he refused to admit his error in the word, he quickly diverted to a different subject. This is why I continue to follow your content and sound Bibilcal word! You are a beacon in this world of deception.
Anyone got a link for their first conversation?
I'm never listening to this dude ever again,until he repents
Jessie purposely tries to angry people for laughs. Wooow and hes rude. A guy calls up and says Jeff is amazing, and jessie tells the guy on the phone, wait we have to take a break, lol jessie is angry and jealous
NOT TRUE. I don't try to make anyone angry. You're already angry and judgmental. Call-in to my show with your disagreements and criticisms. 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
Jesse is like that he will never change
Jesse says he does not sin but he mock and insults his guests whose views are not compatible to his
He's full of evil spirits
I loved every second of this interview
@ 27:35 hahaha Jeff's reaction how he turns sideways and face reaction, you can tell he was like "oh gosh, what have I got my self into" hahaha i was cracking up.
To have no sin is to claim to be perfect so jesse is basically claiming to be perfect
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
Jesse, why do you discount God's written word? You cannot pick, and choose what scriptures you want to believe. Either you believe it all, or none of it! All true Christian's believe that God has preserved His word. "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by Every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Matt.4:4
Amazing ...between worship music, and Jeff....and his “All in “ patient approach to presenting lies in our present society......I’m growing very fast in Scotland.... more all in Christians ...please share your Ministrys on utube.... it’s so so educational and encouraging....Ric. Bless you all
Just had to end with some serious belly giggles at the end with Jesse throwing in his 2 pence on the close of the radio show. Good work Jeff, loads of grace.
Sin is not technically playing God, since God absolutely does not sin, but sin in a way, is being your own god, which is sin.
Your comment proves that the "god" of the Old Testament is actually Satan
When you choose your way, it is like choosing to be your own guidance, your own god. And doing so, you fall into other sins. GOD said that you should have no other gods before HIM!
Jesse is the guy that got embarrassed by Jaclyn the atheist
Nope, she is lost and needs help.
I just found this in 6/2024. Will Someone please link the next time they got together for me?
He says the Bible has been corrupted yet doesn't even know how we got the Bible wow 😳
Who says this? Jeff certainly does not think that the Bible has been corrupted.
@@grantr1556 he was talking about Jesse
It's hard to argue with the person that controls the show. Racism does exist but it is because of hate, the root of it is hate. If you fight racism and win, you achieve to resolve one problem. If you fight hate, you would a chive to resolve multiple problems.
"Racism" has never existed. But you are right - if we call it right vs. wrong, love vs. hate, you solve everything, and don't misdiagnose the "problem."
Jesse Lee Peterson what is the problem?
It is a spiritual battle of good vs. evil. There is no such thing as "racism." It has never existed. It has always been either right or wrong, love or hate. And most blacks today have hate. And most whites don't love blacks enough to tell them the truth - that neither whites nor "racism" are blacks problem, but blacks' own lack of moral character. Each suffers for his own sin, and passes it down to his or her children.
Jesse Lee Peterson so how do we fix it??
@@jlptalk
God bless you!
JLP doesn't understand the difference between imputed righteousness and infused righteousness. He is in error. Luckily, we serve a gracious Lord.
Nathan, call-in to my show and explain imputed righteousness and infused righteousness. 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
video not availeble
tempa?
Jesse is guilty of the sin of pride since he clearly thinks himself perfect. Jesus himself said ONLY GOD IS GOOD! Jesse disagrees with Jesus, as Jesse thinks himself good.
Yes arrogance is equivalent to foolishness
No disrespect,
But is Jesse kinda slow?
yes
The whole “does racism exist” bit was so exhausting to listen to
Jesse does this thing where he asks that question 3 times to each guest. Like some sort of gotcha hoping to get the real answer the third time. It's cringe.
I'm having this same argument with some ppl on FB. They think they don't sin and have reached perfection, and not only that, but they tell others they are damned if they sin..
How can you be born of god and sin. It says in the bible no such thing is possible. What is even the point of being born again if you stil sin?
@@Matt10264 you sin daily.
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
I haven't watched Jesse much, but always felt something off about him, his application of the Word and his approach to people. This video clearly shows what's up. Too much eisegesis, you need exegesis instead.
You should call-in to my show and discuss: 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
Jesse is a false teacher. he seems to think that once you accept Christ.. ur sins don't count as sins.
That's true....I would ask him if the apostle Paul was a Christian in Romans 7.
jtremaine23 Paul was speaking in historical present basically talking about when he was Saul but then starts talking as if it was present. Just read Roman 6-8 it'll all make sense
What is your definition of Sin? The ten commandments? If so, breaking the 10 commandments is not considered sin. The commandments were set aside for us as guidelines for living a good life. Sin is when you turn your back away from God.
DocHolliday311, If you think this you should call-in to my show and correct me. It's not good to assume. 888-775-3773 M-F 6-9am PT / 9-noon ET. jlptalk.com
He says to repent, I dont think he'd say that if all you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ
This video is 5 years old and I wonder what Jesse thinks now about this administration...
No true born again believer follows JLP on biblically theology, the Spirit of God won't allow it. Jesse follows a different christ
We do love Comfort..#RayConmfort
Jesus : Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
JLP : Where's the rock pile ?
Aaaahahahahhahahahaha best comment ever
We are in the flesh that's why wesin
We are in the flesh that's why we still sin
Nice thumbnail Jeff...? .love the choice of eye exposure...
what has always blew me away, and still does, is where it says there were many in the Sanhedrin that believed he was the messiah but for the fear of men said nothing...WOW...nothing is new under the sun
It's funny because in Jesse's and jaclyn glenn debate jesse says the Lord's name in vein " Jesus Christ " . And he claims he dosnt sin. Yeah right we all sin
All I can do is laugh at Jesse. Come on man. He is error in so many ways. The music was on point. That's the only thing he got right. Jeff is awesome as always
God has blessed Jeff with an incredible amount of patience. God bless you brother, Jesus is King.
Whoa. How frustrating. Makes me wonder if Jesse has some sort of an intellectual difficulty, with all due respect. What a wonderful example of gracious, clear-headed thinking, Jeff.
Jeff Durbin is preaching the word of God straight how it is. Repenting is an ongoing process.
Jeff handled himself very well and I hope Jesse Lee does have him back to discuss that some more. Something tells me Jesse had a sleepless night lol.
Grace Napoli , i can onky hooe and pray that is true, with YHWH Granting by HIS Sweet Grace, deepened Repentance and Faith, Actively Trusting in YESHUA; in Fear, Trust and LOVE.
Grace, Peace, n LOVE to all the elect in CHRIST JESUS, The HOLY HOLY HOLY [ONE].
No, I sleep very well. Don't listen to Satan!
@@jlptalk your friend
What in the world did I just watch? Somebody please subtitle this! Lol
43:09 you can just see it in Jeff's face: "it burns us, precious!!" The pain of having an incorrect statement just float into the ether without a chance to refute it. Thanks for getting that gospel out there!
LOL good I'm not the only one that noticed that!
I would've just asked him... "Do you love God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind, the way He OUGHT to be loved every second of every day in your life"??
He can't say yes because it's blasphemy. Therefore he fails every single day at the greatest commandment!
Who are you talking about?
@@jlptalk I believe it's you Jesse
Perfectly handled by Pastor Jeff, bless you.
Jessie just taught me what proof texting is lol 😂
I would like to see this two guys talking more about the gospel.
Lol. Jesse is exhausting
I need that mug.
brah and that shirt!!!
Hard to catch'm, to speak to'm... "he peeks in & out of shadowy places"😄
Excellent talk. I didn't know that Jeff was a martial artist! What art does he train in?
Wow this Jesse guy is spreading a false doctrine
I just went to the endabortionnow.com website and filled out the form (name and address) and ALL THE WORK is DONE for you! It sends a letter to every representative in my state! Wow.
You had me at " uniting the races with the truth " (!)
Wow, I didn't realize until I watched to the end that he is a simpleton. I still like the above phrase as it stands on it's own.
he is fully entrenched in the Holiness heresy.
He seemed to have as his agenda the "got you" intent.
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If by "that" you mean my term "holiness heresy" I mean the belief that once you except Christ and his spirit indwells you , you will not sin. And I find it contextually unsupportable in the NT. When one isolate certain verses out of context and cobbles them together one can come up with just about anything. AKA "proof-texting". Towards the end of the interview he wasn't even trying to be conversive with his guest.we just had an ax to grind.
Why in the world does he have a break every 2.5 mins?
Jesse is the ultimate troll. And sinless apparently 🤣😇 I could listen to these men all day.
jesse lee thinks very highly of himself
I think that's what it could be. You talk about ego and arrogance, I see some going on with him.
Hi Jeff I was just wondering, so ,we do have the original Greek language of the Bible? If we do how can we get it? Just by the library ? Can I trust online apps to order from there? ...I love the fact you know so much about the Bible and the more I read and understand the word of god just makes me want to know more and more about him and it seems like people use that excuse or lack of knowledge of the Bible since I was in middle school til this day,”been corrupt “ or “translated many ways/languages.” I Would like to know little more about how the Bible became and how we got and know Greek to learn more about it. Thank you!
AMAZING interview.
After so many years of following you guys, only today did I get this recommended to me.
I know there was another encounter between you guys, and for some reason, only a snipet of it exists, and I believe there was a reference to how Jesse didn't want the full interview shared on youtube, don't know why.
I remember actively searching for it, and not only not finding it, but also not finding this one, so it's a strange thing it appeared today.
Godbless you both. Coming from different perspectives, Jesse less knowledgeble in the Bible mut ALOT of experience in real life Godly issues, this was a great conversation.
Godbless you all.
wait what? Jesse thinks he doesn't sin anymore??
1 JOHN 3 VERSE 8 & 9
jesse...brother im sorry but brother jeff knows the word...
Great discussion. Thank you for sharing.
With all due respect, Jesse is not a Christian. Anyone under his leadership as a "Pastor" needs to leave immediately. Eisegesis and Narcigesis are extremely dangerous. Jesse shows both of these.
If Christ said, "Go and sin no more," and, "Be perfect as your Father is perfect," and John says, "Anyone born of God cannot sin," and Jesus said, "If you don't forgive, then God won't forgive you," and, "How can you love God whom you've not seen, and hate your brother whom you have seen," then who is the one with unbiblical view of sin and salvation?
Jesse Lee Peterson How do you know that? I thought you said knowledge was a sin
Jesse Lee Peterson You said the Bible has been corrupted when he quoted 1 John 1, but then you use the Bible to try to prove your argument, how do you know that your interpretation is correct since you cannot even read the original language. You are not being honest with your argument. And dishonesty is a lie, and lying is a sin.
Jesse Lee Peterson Romans 3:23. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
I listen to JLP's show daily as I find it entertaining. He addresses good points like ending ongoing anger and understanding the "children of the lie" plus to be honest he trolls the left well but I never listened to him for Biblical doctrine. When he states _"children of God are to sin no more"_ I translate it as _"true, we are to no longer live in intentional sin but we will still sin nonetheless"_ but unfortunately I believe he feels that no more sin lives within us and that is wrong. JLP is definitely a legalist which goes against the understanding of _Sola Gratia_ (Salvation by grace alone). It's also a major red flag to state that you, as a fallible man, believe in an infallible God based on text *created* by other fallible men. The word of God from Genesis to Revelation is *directly* given from God to man (1 Thessalonians 2:13) and it stands forever (Isaiah 40:8); I fully believe that, will continue to stand on the word and there is no need for interpretation.
Chad Daniels he doesn’t claim to be without sin. He speaks about when he was in the “fallen state” and how he was (sinning) prior to God removing the spirit of anger from him 29 years ago. He claims not to sin anymore because he is no longer in that fallen state.
Just like Jeff said Ezekiel 36:27 'I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances' ~ You will be careful. Not you will no longer sin. Finally He says "I WILL save you from ALL your uncleanness." This language "I WILL Raise them up, HAS ETERNAL LIFE" is ALL over the scripture. Salvation CANNOT be lost. Christ doesn't temporarily save you. You cannot snatch yourself out of the Fathers hand. John 6:37-40 " For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day" ~ If you think that you can sin your way or walk away from Salvation I beg you to read the book of John starting at chapter 1 and read through ALL the way to 20. Count how many times Jesus says "I give them eternal life, and I WILL raise them up on the last day", "he who believes HAS eternal life", "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already", "hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life" ...... You cannot cross over from death to life, back to death, back to life, rinse repeat, rinse repeat. you cannot 'un-has' your salvation. you can't believe unless Jesus reveals himself so you can't un-believe. Don't give yourself too much power. Carefully read John 1-20 highlight everywhere Jesus talks about "believe' and ask yourself if you think it's possible to lose your salvation by your own sins or 'walking away' after you've been saved.
Jason, thank you for this post. I have a couple questions: If you can't be "un-saved" after you accepted Christ's sacrifice, what do you do with people who adamantly refute the gospel, or even preach against the gospel after they accepted Him? Do you say "well they never really believed in the first place?" There are those who really believed, and really believed they were saved, so will God "raise them up on the last day" to their surprise? Someone like Matt Dillahunty comes to mind on that question. In my opinion, I would say yes, and I believe I will see Matt in Heaven one day, but that is another conversation.
My other question for you is for those Christians(born-again authentic professing and possessing) who have been dealt a lot of things in their life that have caused them to allow sin to reign in their life for a period of time, or to revert back to their sinning ways, or who are going through a time of struggle and can't seem to kick a habit(sinful habit). Some of these people I saw come and go and have been friends with and most just couldn't get over the fact that they were steeped in their sin so they fell further and further, getting worse and finally feeling so ashamed they quit the church, alienate their friends and choose to accept their sin and live their life how they want to live it. Same question here: is God going to "raise them up on the last day"?
I ask because we have an epidemic with individuals these days that say it's OK to sin once you've been saved because God will raise you up on the last day because you can't be "un-saved". Romans 7:15-20 comes to mind as well as Luke 9:23
Steven O Yes, Scripture says that the person was never saved in the 1st place. When someone says that they used to be Christian, I immediately think of 1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." I'm not saying they will never come to faith but I knew it wasn't real from the beginning (according to Scripture). Matt Dillahunty would fall in this group.
Also, there are those that confess that they know the Lord but, in actuality, they are depending on their good works instead of Jesus Christ alone......see Matthew 7:21-23. If Matt Dillahunty was still saying he was saved today and never followed the religion of atheism, he would fall in this group because it wasn't real in the 1st place--there was no true heart change.
Please read Romans 3:27-31--The apostle Paul addresses this exact issue of people saying that you can keep sinning (with no conviction) and still be saved. Emphasis on verse 31. If a person is truly born again, they hate their sin so why would one practice sin as a lifestyle? He/she has been given a new heart with new desires....they now hate the things that God hates and love the things that He loves. This does not mean they will never sin....as Jeff Durbin points out in 1 John 1:8,10 but it should be confessed v. 9.
To sum up what Jason Russo is saying is that "salvation belongs to the Lord" & Him alone. (Psalm 3:8; 62:1)
One thing to keep in mind...no matter what anybody says, if God's Word says something different...ask yourself "who knows all things---them or God?" :-)
At my bible study last Monday one of my brothers said "I knew Christians that killed themselves." I told him the problem with his statement is that he can't see inside anyone's heart so it's impossible for him to know those people were saved or (maybe they repented before death?). We can't know for sure. The apostles thought Judas was saved. Jesus knew he wasn't because he knows our hearts. I think of Romans 10:6-7 "don't say who will ascend to heaven" or who's going to hell. When ever someone tries to put you in the hot seat, gently move the spotlight off of yourself and point them to scripture. I say don't take my word for it. Take HIS word for it. So when someone asks me why do you believe in one time justification? Because it's in the Bible. Hope this helps you. God bless.
That's true.....Paul thought Demas was saved as he was a fellow worker with him in Philemon 1:24 but in 2 Timothy 4:10, Demas fell in love with the world and abandoned him.
Why does Jesse once he gets an answer for a question he turns and ask the same question?
Radio shows suck because they spend way too much time on breaks then fluff when coming back.
Easy way to determine if Jesse is without sin is to ask his wife 😄
Jesse don't and probably will never have a wife
JESSE SAID HE DOES NOT SIN AFTER BEING BORN AGAIN. WELL THAT IS A LIE AND HE JUST SIN. IF I WAS JEFF I WOULD HAVE ASK JESSE AFTER HE WAS BORN AGAIN HAS HE EVER LIED, STOLEN, LUSTED AFTER WOMEN, GOSSIPED, SPEED, HAD ANGER, BITTER, HATRIED,
@@chadrawls2262It's something about not having a wife in his life that gets me.
@janedoe3567 He not going to have a wife he believes women are only good for cleaning house and making babies plus all the bad stuff going on in the world he put most of the blame on women because he had bad relationships with women starting with his own Mother who probably told him I wish I never had you day in and day out because his father denied him before he was born he was engaged twice and still didn't get married his baby momma took his son away from him so he will not be able to handle the New Generation of women plus he is not a fan of black people he has self hatred in him
@janedoe3567 I believe Jesse prefer men aka white men that's why he praises white men so much he wants to be white
Jesse is so uninformed... Bless his heart...
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Jesse is not in favor of reading there it is impossible for him to be knowledgeable
you guys are priceless… Honestly, this is priceless.
I think Romans 7:15-20 is applicable to this discussion. I'd be interested in hearing Jesse and Jeff's opinions on it in this context.
Zac, you are correct this passage does have application to this discussion. It has to do with Sanctification, after Justification we are on a path of Sanctification (being formed in the image of Jesus. Paul here in Romans described a struggle all of us can identify with. Christians all do what is good, healthy, and right, but we end up committing the same old sins. As we honestly reflect on our lives, we admit our failures and seek to change, but we still may fall back into our old habits once again. We all need to continue to confess our sins to God, even if we've confessed the same sin numerous times. God promises to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). We will continue on this path of Sanctification till God see fit to take us home with him, then our Glorification happens.
Wow I’ve never seen Jesse Lee Peterson so uncomfortable. That was amazing Jeff. All to the glory of God.
That is why it says in the Word that when one person teaches two will correct. As much as I like Jesse, he needed correction and God certainly used you to speak the truth. God is good!
when the black guy says "Amazing", he sounded like he had no care in the world for the baby in the womb.. Like no care in the world.
Was that a Buffalo Rock GInger Ale Jeff was drinking ?
Oof I find it very difficult to watch debates, but Jeff handled this with such grace and boldness.