Pastor Talks with an Atheistic-Satanist & Transgender Man
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Awe man did you seriously have to call flat earthers stupid!? I have so much respect for you I love listening to you. That bugs me. I do believe in biblical cosmology and the same science that tells you that you come from monkeys and evolution is the same science that tells you the earth is billions of years old and that its an ever expanding universe. The Bible is a biblical cosmology book. I honestly and sincerely ask that you don’t mock. You might want to watch a doc called “The Principal” done by the top scientist claiming how wrong science has been and that they Believe In geo-centricity not heliocentricity. These are top scientist. It’s not that far fetched.
Joshua asked God to stop the sun. Not to put a stop to the spin of the earth. The sun moon and stars are inside the firmament. The foundations of the earth don’t move. I could go on and on. Your guys excuse is always that the Bible people were too dumb to know what God really meant and now we know all the answers. I will stick with what the Bible says. Helio centricity is a lie.
@@wokeupwakeup3540all excellent point to bring up. Jeff defends God's Word to the letter concerning salvation.
Funny he doesn't, when it comes to what the Bible clearly says about the earth and it's foundations.
Who's blind here? Us or him? Hmmmmmmm..?
When an atheist asks what proof do you have you can simply point out that you can't have a building without a builder or painting without a painter
Where are these mythical stories Jeff references around 14:00? Thanks
The saddest sound byte from this video is when Jocelyn said "I wanted to believe in God, but they destroyed that in me." Fellow Christians, do you see the ensuing tragedy when we, as ambassadors of Christ, representative of Him, attack the person rather than their sin? They take it as Christ rejecting them, not rejecting their sin. Pastor Jeff entreated this soul, showing compassion, patience and heartfelt care. He defined what God has named as sin, yet praised Jocelyn for the qualities Jocelyn retained that were a result of him being made in God's image. Thank you, pastor Jeff Durbin. You are a shining example of how to speak the truth in love. I will continue to study your methods so that I may walk as you walk...the way Jesus walked. You really do represent Christ.
exactly and some of these comments are exhibiting it pretty potently..
Becki Jameson amen. I have never seen a minister so tactful with love in their evangelism than Jeff. I learn a lot from his methods hes been a huge blessing helping me as I came out of Mormonism.
errol
Unfortunately that's not going to happen. Jesus gave us our marching orders, and hate was nowhere in there.
bowrudder beautifully said
John Calvin John Calvin You're a troll trying to make true Christians look like hateful nasty biggots, the fruit You bare is death and it's rotten. I'm truly scared for You because the same mercy you show to others will be given to you on judgement day. Jesus says to LOVE your enemy, He also says to bless those that curse you but You aren't blessing this man instead you're unrighteously condemning him. You don't know Jesus Christ any more then Jocelyn does, you're just as lost as he is. I feel sorry for you and hope you repent from your wickedness. Breaks my heart to see so called Christians using God's precious and merciful words to propagate hate. They're are people who were once gay that have repented and live for Jesus, they're are those that once worshipped Satan who now live and passionately love the Lord, Jesus uses people from ALL backgrounds and walks of life. We serve a God that has no respect for person-(this is scripture) meaning He doesn't look upon one sin as worse then other and that ALL ALL ALL are invited to come know Him. The audacity you and others like you have to think you have the mind of God and can judge who is reprobate vs who can be redeemed. You remind me of the pharisee that confronted Jesus for sitting with the worst of societies sinners, Jesus rebuked that man and on judgement day if you stand before Him with that ugly heart you'll be rebuked too. Having hate in your heart convicts you of murder. I honestly doubt you believe in God, like I explained in the beginning of my comment I think you're a poser. I truly hope you wake up and realize that Jesus Christ died for you AND for this man.
I really cannot believe how Jeff can get people laughing and joking with him even when they're unbelievably hostile to his message.
This is just so convicting for me regarding my own attitude and tone when I present the Gospel; we're not here to win an argument, we're here to bring good news!
Amen. I'm just amazed at this myself. I want this kind of attitude with unbelievers.
Amen 🙏
Jeff is a wonderful preacher.
he manifests the fruits of the Holy Spirit like love, patience and gentleness.
I once heard Jeff say ,
" I not here to drop this in your lap and say Haha , I'm here because I care about you" .
Joselyn,
If you are out there, we love you. GOD loves you. If Christian's have hurt you, it's the Christian that failed you, not Christ. We are a group of hypocrites...the only difference is that we hate our flaws and sins and we are willing to surrender our ways to be changed.
We are no better than you and we are not the savior, we just know Him.
Michael Gonzales well said brother
Amen brother!
Amen!
Beautifully said!
Jesus isn't real. I worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
My eyes teared up when they hugged at the end. May the Lord work on that man's heart
“I wanted to believe in God back then...
they destroyed that in me.”
LORD FORGIVE US!🙏🏼
Praying for you, Joselyn.
You are loved!
The Fight Of Faith the way Joselyn’s voice tells me that there is still a softness to the gospel!
As a christian,this statement hurt me so much...He has been through alot...God Bless and have mercy on him
Some people are not in the book of life, these people recognize one father Satan!!
@@gordvargic8907 those are the original children of Isreal who wouldn't believe in Jesus as saviour. There is way more to the verses in the Bible that explain that than picking a verse or two and applying it to all atheists. Don't confuse people who turned from believeing in Jesus into that category.
The sun shines on clay, it hardens some, and it melts others. Hardship, circumstances, abuses, and just plain old tough life, reveal our hearts. How we respond is who we are. You can preach to some till your blue in the face, and the cows come home, and they will never believe, so their heart has been revealed. There is a time where you walk. You give them the gospel, and the burden is on them. They don't believe because they choose not to, and they use any excuse under the sun, to justify their own unbelief, and rebellion. That's why the "argument" becomes circular.
If you read this Jocelyn I was a trans-gender addicted to shooting up meth and black, Homeless, for many years, seeking love from other men. Once I gave Jesus my life my life has turned around now I have a job, living in a nice apartment. And getting blessed everyday just loving God
Michael Reagan powerful testimony my brother..when God is not in our life ,, confusion leads the way
Michael Reagan interesting story, you should post more videos about your story.
Amen
Hallelujah!
Wow beautiful! Glory to God!!
"I apologise. For every person that's hurt you."
DAMN, Jeff. Hit my right in the feels...
watch your langauge.
@@Tektitictie yo mama
@@Tektitictie you serious come on
@@Tektitictie all they said is damn which is not a swear when it's in the Bible
@@goodbye6676 It is a swear word now, but it was not a swear word in the distant past.
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist.” -C.S. Lewis
Had him over for dinner once. Nice guy, helped with the dishes too.
Sounds like something a cult leader would say. Lol 😄 "if anyone tells you this isn't true, they're lying you and trying to lead you astray! Follow me without question! Questioning anything I say is bad!" Lmao
I have been saying this for years, ignorant don't realise that those controlling this world are satanists.
@@Primatenate88 I bet you did. Is that supposed to be an argument? Mocking out of ignorance is hardly a sign of intelligence, especially when you talk about things you don't know.
The world does not work according to your perception of this reality, the world will still be here after you snuff it. Just remember that.
Good quote but, honestly, C.S. Lewis is so terribly overrated and Christians should be ridding ourselves of him rather than continuing to build up the fable of his greatness.
Satan isn't an atheist!
Its not the same saten. Also, the kind of satanist they are doesn't beleive in satin i dont think
The greatest lie ever told by Satan was deceiving the world he doesn’t exist. He is the father of lies and deceit. Atheists believe in the fundamental ways of Satan, without actually admitting he exists.
Being an atheist satanist is impossible 🤦🏻♀️
@Clownfish Valley
And God allows Satan to do what he does.
He's a master deceiver! That's what his name actually means. Deceiver.
The Holy Spirit is burning inside of me for Joselyn. God loves Joselyn so much!
Are you sure it's not just gonorrhea?
Amen!
How can you say God loves Jocelyn???God calls this filthy sin an abomination !!!!please stop encouraging this filthy sin and believe the WHOLE Bible not just part of it
@@allancourtney8307 She didn't say God loved Joselyns sin. She said God loves Joselyn.
@@allancourtney8307 And based upon her comment, she clearly didn't encourage this sin.
Joselyn don't give up on love. Humans are flawed but God's love is perfect.
God loves you.
God is evil in the Bible He commands and condones genocide infanticide misogyny homophobia Human Sacrifice torture slavery sex slavery and much much more and I'm not just saying this if you want I can give you all of the Bible verses that specifically prove this... there's a Bible verse that literally says they that dash your little ones against Stones shall be blessed..
And there is another Bible verse where God says commit yourself to destruction when he orders them to genocide the amalekites he specifically says kill every man woman child and infant every oxen and Donkey.. do you really believe that a good God would command to kill babies
@@mybeautifulchaos6670 You have *never* read the Holy Bible since you do *not* know Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek!!! You have *never* even read one entire translation of the Holy Bible!!!
@@mybeautifulchaos6670 In the Holy Bible, women are Prophets: Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Isaiah's wife, Widow Anna, 4 Virgin daughters of Philip, and etc!!! In the Holy Bible, women are Judges, Queen Mother, Queen regent, and Queen Regnant!!!
@@mybeautifulchaos6670 The Holy Bible forbids sexual slavery!!!
@@mybeautifulchaos6670 The LABOR slavery that was in the Holy Old Testament was a mercy for poor Israelite people and a mercy for the Gentile people!!! The Holy New Testament forbids slavery!!!
"How can I embrace Christianity when I've felt so much hatred towards me." What a true statement said by Jocelyn. Boy how the church has failed in this. Thank God for people like this pastor who go out and speak the Truth of Jesus Christ and his redeeming love.
The Church has failed misrably, I was fortunate enough to get saved in a Church back when I was 18 where everyone was so loving and gentle and where I was not judged, the love of Christ was so tangible, that made me fall in love with Christianity and I wanted to be like those Christians, live holy and righteous and obedient to God, only genuine love can do that.
Its not the failing of the church when someone has a misunderstanding of what hate means.
One of the ministries of the holyspirit is conviction to sin. We believers must soak ourselves in the holyspirit before preaching.
This way sinners will be convicted
Few days back I replied this to a person who said how unloving we Christians are, so I'll copy paste this here for people like you to read too:
Your advertisement popped up on youtube, saw that fully, and it was this video of yours.
And with all due respect, dear pastor sir, I strongly am saying that YOU'RE WRONG ! ABSOLUTELY WRONG regarding what you said in this video of yours !
1. I believe you said that you disagree with this verse, let me post all of it:
John 15:18-25
The World Hates the Disciples
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. 24 If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’
Now what you said was that that's not what this portion of the scripture meant, you gave it a more of a secular mushy worldly sensitive false love flavour, you even went as far as saying that the tax collectors and such unconditionally loved each other, you put the virtue of Christ aka unconditional love on people who were lost blind reprobate minded sinners like tax collectors and such, even though the Bible shows us how corrupt and heartless and vicious they were, you instead made Christians true Bible believing Christians look like we are the tax collectors and the torturers of people instead !
So people don't like true Bible believing Christians because they are not nice people ? Read that portion of the scripture again then, so according to your logic people didn't like Jesus Christ because He was not a nice person ? He didn't love unconditionally ?
You very well know why people hated and still hate the ACTUAL Jesus Christ OF THE Bible and persecuted Him and got Him killed !
BECAUSE He SHOWED EVERYONE THAT HOW WRETCHED AND FOOLISH AND CORRUPT SINFULL THEY ARE !
You very well know why people hate true Bible believing Christians and persecute them ! And if you don't know then again read John 15:18-25 again and again and again !
You know, people actually do love Christians, you didn't know that ? Just go to Joel Osteen's Church ! Just look at Oprah Winfrey ! They proclaim to be Christians and people LOVVVEEE THEM !
2. We Christians know that we are not here to be loved by the fallen lost people of this world ! Hate is much expected and if a Christian or a Church is not hated by the non Christian people of the world then that Christian and that Church is not real !
But despite of that, all thanks, praise and glory be to Jesus Christ that He gave a kind of heart to true Bible believing Christians that they preach the true Gospel to people, why ? To be "self righteous" ? To be "holier than thou" ? Or to love a person through the overflowing love of Jesus Christ through us Christians so much, that we are concerned about where these people will end up for eternity ?
What is being loving to another person ? A person who supports me in every self harming things I do and never confronts me about it instead "unconditionally loves" me and supports me in doing self harm ? A person who doesn't cares if I end up in hell for eternity or not ? That's loving ? So the vice versa is being hateful and being "self righteous" and being "holier than thou" ?
Do you know why people hate Christianity ? Simple because the Gospel shows the people their wretched sinful nature and THAT OFFENDS THE PEOPLE when the Gospel smashes down the idol of their egotistical "I'm a good person" self image into tiny bits and pieces !
Why do the people hate Christianity ? Because the Gospel shows the people their hopeless sinful nature and the rightful eternal condemnation and suffering awaiting them because of it in hell forever ! And the only hope for them is the Gospel, faith in the actual Jesus Christ of the Bible, the Gospel tells them to REPENT !
THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HATE Christianity ! People don't want to change their own ways !
That's why people hate Christians who preach the real Gospel because the actual Gospel shows the people what they need to be saved from and who is the Savior ! That's what people HATE !
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Try sticking this BILLBOARD up and then see for yourself how "loving" the non Christians are towards you:
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This is why the world hates Christians:
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That is taking Christs name in vain- when people are hatefully misrepresenting him. People are sinners therefore we are to look to Christ .
How JEFF keeps his composure is beyond me. It can only be God
This is one of the best I've heard from Pastor Jeff
@ Anna Ir
Amen!
Or it could be that she's a beautiful person giving him the time of day, and he knows for views he needs her more than she needs him.
Anna Ir When u have the Holy Spirit inside you, peace prevails.
Jin Phachit I respect anybody’s faith but Jesus is the only way to heaven.
at least Jocelyn would have a calm conversation, much respect
Hey Jocelyn. I'm a Christian and I add my voice to Jefff's when he apologized for everyone who hurt you. If anyone could ever feel any justification for mistreating you for any reason, that person does not worship the Biblical God. I send you much love and grace sweetheart. And as you read the comments on this video, I hope you can feel that you are loved by many who can feel your kind heart. The compassion you have for the downtrodden, does show God’s image within you. God looks upon your heart and what he sees is a beautiful one.
Sending big hugs!
how about me? God could have stopped a lot of evil from happening, and yet he didn't. That's why I'm a Satanist.
"The compassion you have for the downtrodden, does show God’s image within you. God looks upon your heart and what he sees is a beautiful one. "
As a fellow saint, there are several things wrong with your statements.
1. you mention "compassion". Even the athiest can exhibit compassion, empathy, grace, etc. Even the Hindu, the Muslim can exhibit this. Does that mean they are right with God? NOPE!
2. God doesn't have to look upon the heart. He doesn't have to go further than the satanic shirt he is wearing. Jocelyn's heart is stone cold towards the Gospel, and for that the wrath of God abides on him unless he repents and believe the Gospel.
3. To apologize for "church hurt" helps to spread negativity towards the church. Most LGBT people claim church hate simply because the church does not accept that lifestyle, especially in the congregation, where children are present. If a person continues in unrepentant sin, the church has the right to put that person out. (1 Cor. 5:2, 5, 9-13)
We must stop letting "Love" become an idol. Too many in the church are worshiping "Love" and not following what Jesus tells us to do. Stand on his word, even when they speak ill of you ("church hurt"). they hated Jesus, and they will hate you too.
What a beautiful man to preach the word of God. Pure heart. He’s so kind to opponents. He’s kind. Loving. Sweet. I have so much respect for this preacher. I will pray for Joslyn.
The opponent is the deception Satan has people under
@@UHJacindaXD satanism is about rejecting religion as whole. They don’t believe in “spirit” but ok
@@Tecom38415 So y’all are a bunch of bored atheists then ?
Satan is a fallen angel so how is it non-theistic?
Jeff Durbin yo I love the way you approach and talk to people because you very calm and respectful. Much blessing
I pray them seeds take root in Jesus name.
Jeff, thanks for representing TRUE Christianity.
Chris Carr
With all due respect that was most uncharitable .....This pastor does a lot of good, and if he prevents one woman from murdering her unborn baby then that’s glorious. He’s not leading me astray and I agree with his interpretation of scripture.. 🙏🏽
Well done (sarcasm) attack go back before Septuagint research read all the laws under gods you need to learn the laws pastor start your study I rebuke you God says to obey the laws of the land which you have chosen to negate and ignore this behaviour displayed is not Christianity start to read the words of god are not found in the bible they are found in law books pertaining to the matter Jesus said he was not here to change things but fitful the mission of Noah abraham Moses Jesus start to pull apart the words and get
the appropriate messages use etymology, law books, decipher the jewish akkadian Mesopotamian egypt Turkey practices of the differing faiths(political party) was fine your logic do you even know what you been been saying .whilst you choose to speak the babble delegated from the fall of Babylon empty your head and heart as they both are fleeting like a whisper you are trying to move Joselyn back so you justify the condemnation of.others watching g this made me feel sick you are unable to love so quickly and if this be so then you have the heart of 666 trumpetting in your abuse of a fellow human the name calling the station you see yourself at and your fellow man look at what you have done to joselyn the same ridicules as the other alleged Christians did to him great job pastor, it's time you.went into a sabbatical and hear what your God says... be open to listening the good news please get back to Joselyn about the lies you told
1.assuming you know joselyn you are not a prophet and did not handle this well .
2. you chose to drop law of the land or your ignorance of this law to
follow, you just clean forgot or was it an intentional negation
3. Any laws Jesus spoke of was reinforcement of the ALL laws including the old what I saw was a copy cat mormon
4 the choice of behaviour re
@@helenfairhall6440 Not a single quote from the Bible you gave but only your opinion. I wonder why.
@@SleepySylvanians for me that's easy I'm not doing your study for you it certainly sounds high time then you did your research being sarcastic to me for your own incompetence is not issue nor my business
He has proof of the flood. That ought to be a doozy.
My heart is grieved by his wounded soul.. 😭 Praying for Him.
she*
Amen
Hunter Rue lol ok hunter
@@thewordwithperd1563 what’s wrong with my name
@@hokkaido345 no lol
The seed was planted when Jocelyn opened up about past experiences.
Amen!!! I saw that too!!!
When
This was fantastic! Beautiful display of "Love thy neighbor".
Roll Tide Timmy -
God is Love ❤️ ask believing with the faith of a grain of mustard and it shall be done but my father in heaven so why does a brother in Christ not ask God to reveal Jesus to Jocelyn? He is not walking by faith his walking in his own intellectual ego mind and loves to argue and show himself as right trying to make Joslyn wrong. This is a very sad witness to the miracle working power of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead which lives inside the guy who is pressuring Josselyn
John Calvin Exuse me Jesus doesnt hate anyone
Sasquatchdude12 he wasnt in the spirit of God at the moment, i feel the pastor has good intentions but isnt going about it the right way.God gave us freedom and he left us his word if someone does not want to follow it they have that right we shouldnt be pushy about it, ofcourse we should live righteously and that example will glorify God and spread unto others.
Satan and the demons all know EXACTLY who Jesus is and they are terrified!
Not true at all...
@who cares not true at all, it that's true than how come I'm not scared
branden worthington you know, the longer I live the more this truth hold true.
/Bklyn 👑
@Marie G 777 Jesus is a liar. how can he save anyone? Major lies are as follows:
1. Fails to deliver on his promises.
John 14: 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater worksthan these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13 Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
Now, ask for an amputee to be healed in Jesus' name. Ask that all children that are in a cancer hospitals will be cured of cancer. You and I both know what will happen. NOTHING. Jesus lied.
2. Failed to return within a generation of 'this generation'.
Matt. 24: 3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
....
29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
----
34 Truly I say to you, ****this generation**** will not pass away until ****all these things**** take place.35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
Again, Jesus lied.
@Marie G 777 I'm a Satanist, I've walked into churches and felt sick,I walked into a room filled with God and almost threw up, I am fine without god. Now leave me be
This is a beautiful conversation. I love that they respected one another despite they’re strongly contrasting views
That man roleplaying a woman was not respectful at all.
"I don't know how to answer that question because it is a stupid question."
He, when challenged, grasped for every excuse he could find. "Don't you have some Mormons to harass?" If he percieves himself as being victimized, that is as immoral as one can possibly be. This person, who gives speeches about human rights, would throw others under the bus to save themselves. The violent, ignorant hypocrisy is on full display.
So distracting having that man yelling in the background
CC S my thought too
@Cool Story Bro I know, the guy just screaming the same thing over and over isn't planting any seeds or bringing people to the Truth.
Thank goodness I took my adderral recently or I would commenting the same thing
@@Joshua-ev9uw Adderall is one of the most destructive things on earth. It is literally amphetamine, speed. Having ADHD is irrelevant, it DOES make you high and does cause severe physiological, emotional, & psychological damage not to mention the sexual dysfunction that accompanies it. I had a problem with it for years. Get off of it now before you regret it later. You will regret it later that is a guarantee. It will do nothing but impede your ability to seek Christ.
I know -_-
Jocelyn is so very deeply hurt. I pray for Jocelyn to know the love and peace of Christ. 🙏 Jocelyn is a sweet soul.
Not Jocelyn, that’s John.
Amen
Jocelynn?? I think pastor is gay for her. He's got tattoos. Like a gay Satanist.
That man may be a "sweet soul" how he treats others on this earth but when it comes to God,Jesus Christ and the Day of Judgement,all homosexuals will be cast into the lake of burning fire and brimstone and eternal darkness unless they repent and turn from their wicked ways. Jesus Christ IS the only way.
@@raynekimi2755 But I'm gay. God loves me. It's not my fault women don't like me.
HI JOCLYN ! If your reading this I want you to know I love you and I will be praying for you. You are made beautifully in the image of God and it shows with so much of what you said. Have a great day and know I am thinking of you.
fast cash ya, she's a knock out in that photo lol.
Erica Espino there are a lot of hurting people who need to heal the places sin has torn only by the GRACE and LOVE of Y'shua amen John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
fast cash talk some respect
Sasquatchdude12 tgere is forgiveness in Christ :)
Sasquatchdude12 so the solution is you gotta come to Christ , to trust in him for the forgiveness of your sins .
Faith in Christ
Christ can forgive .
(That's what i was sating on my 1st post) there is forgiveness in Christ :)
Oh my goodness, I love Jocelyn so much. So many of these conversations turn into the atheist position yelling, swearing, pointing fingers in Jeff’s face. Jocelyn, FRIEND, repent and believe! Thank you for not shouting and swearing, but for disagreeing calmly. I see glimpses of the desire to believe. Lord Jesus, save this precious person. Open J’s eyes and heart! You are kind and merciful, Lord. Save J for Your glory and turn that activism into gospel proclamation 🔥
Jeff the patience, and compassion, you expressed here.... God given man... I don't know a single person who would have entertained this conversation for this long without either walking away, or freaking out... Really appreciate your interactions here, because it shows us just a shade of how patient and compassionate God is, and how we should aspire to be as Christians.
The thing with homosexuality and transgenders is that they’ve been told that they must change before they come to Christ , THIS IS NOT TRUE, the Bible says to come as you are, meditate on the Lord all your days and he will make straight your path, it’s not about cleaning up your life before hand, that would be like taking a bath before you take a shower. He does a great job of being respectful, and consistent with thought provoking questions.
KayJay2017 Amazing truth!
Yup, and the the bit where Jesus says: '...go and sin no more'
@ True, but it is important to be repentant of our sins firstly. This is required to give meaning to Jesus' sacrifice, if we cant admit we are sinners then how can we truly admit that Jesus died for our sins in the first place.
@ISawCornInMyPoop nobody said to come to Christ and STAY a homosexual, they said, come to Christ as you are AND he will make straight your path. As in he will help you sort out your problem.
@ISawCornInMyPoop Wow. Hilarious. Champagne comedy😕😑
Jeff Durbin is awesome. I mean that... he's a great messenger, maybe one of the best.
Deplorable Patriot
Absolutely 👍
I was just thinking the same thing.
He is truly blessed.
Deplorable Patriot Not really .
He sounds more like a self righteous new convert .
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast. ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them. under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Matthew 7:6 -
Deplorable Patriot Plus he needs to shave
Marci Lynn But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, ‘Thou fool,’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mathew 5:22
you're probably the one that needs to get saved so you don't go to hell for calling me a fool. LOL that
When I watch videos like this... it makes me realise how intolerant I can be... it’s amazing to see how patient and loving Pastor Jeff is. Non Christians have no idea how difficult it is to be Christian and how high the bar was set by Jesus. Grateful for content like this to remind me that Christ’s ✝️ blood was shed for my sin... sin such as judgement and self righteousness when watching videos like this!
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?”
- Matthew 7:1-3 NKJV
Amen 🙏🏾 🙇🏾♀️
Judgment and correction are 2 different things. It's in the Bible.
John 7:24
Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”
It takes wisdom to understand what Jesus was saying. Christians are to judge righteously.
I recently lost a friend in a plane crash please pray for him and his family please🌟🌟👏
Nick Boyd praying for you Nick, May God give you and your friends family peace in this devastating situation💗
@@newhorizon1355 Why did you make that underhanded comment?
Not supposed to pray for the dead, the family is fine but not someone who had passed
Nick, what is your belief about Jesus? I am happy to pray for your family and have done so already. Please read a KJV Bible and stay close to God.
If he's already dead, isn't it a little late to pray for him...
You can hear Jocelyn's pain, his emotional experiences are motivating his views
I agree
i agree & you can see & feel his pain! this video is a little old but it would be amazing to see an update. you can just see the wall he has put up from being hurt but I hope hes seen all the love in these comments & the Lord will just continue to be pulling him close
@@emilywood3288 come to JESUS CHRIST cus He will save you.
@@dkwheat1105 we need to love people like this.
I do agree! My heart hurts for this person. Jesus is about love, not hate!
Can you understand how Jesus felt deep pity when he looked at all the people without faith.
Goodness what an intense thought
Snezana Cassidy yeah, I know what you mean.
Yes because it is absolutely heartbreaking to see mankind formed in His image so deluded by satan.
YES. So important to remember His heart for ALL people. He sees us as we truly are.
@Italia Edwards I've slowly been experiencing this change myself. I pray that we all become more like Christ.
Jocelyn is so so sweet. I don't know where they stand now 3 years later, but I'm lifting Jocelyn up in prayer right now. Thank you pastor Jeff for your ministry. It is such a treasure to watch how you love people through these hard conversations.
@ Ms Cruz
Love your HEART❤
This person is hurting and also trying not to be accountable for himself, I've been there. Please pray for him and love him by not forgetting his soul in danger and keep praying.
Amen
That’s a female
Not only that but we have two different intelctual levels here Jocelyn is at a huge disadvantage what she must do is open her heart. But she's in a deep and dark hole.
I pray for that man's soul In jesus name
@@jelayastewart4804 born a Male
It was cute when they bonded over the security guard. Broke the ice.
And the high five at 31:25 united against flat earth. Amazing how unifying that is. Both agreed that flat earthers are stupid. Interesting.
m. o Hi, I’m stupid. 😊
@@LawfulChristian hahaha then I guess there's two of us then ;D
@@mo-215 Whoever says that flat earthers are stupid, I challenge you to watch pastor Dean Odle sermons about flat earth. It will blow your mind!! I used to laugh at flat earthers too until I watched few of his sermons about it. After you watch it, there will be no question about it no more :)) When you go to his youtube channel, just open one of his playlist "Flat earth creation" or "sky fall" for example. God bless
@@_61514 flath earth could be a real thing in a different dimension, however the world we walk on in this dimension is a sphere that moves through space.
This is the most humble I’ve seen Jeff and I greatly appreciate that 💛
Minus the gratuitous hate for anyone who does not abide by his faith in a spherical realm.
Wait he' always humble and gentleness even while arguing.
"when you oppose someone you dislike them"... That is such a dangerous thing to believe
I read this comment just before it was said and I agree with you.
He asks a lot of rhetorical questions and tuns the answer into the the lord.
You're right but that's how children of the world think and feel
God loves the sinner but hates the sin.
@@amygentry4351 love the Christian hate the Christianity.
I’m Catholic and I love being a Catholic!!! And I LOVE watching this Pastor!!!! His knowledge and passion and his ability to stay calm is inspiring!!!!
Adam Holubar
I don’t understand how Catholics can remain in such a corrupt church. You should all break away from that nonsense and be independent if you want to practice the same religion. Get away from deceitful Rome.
Lisa Spikes All people should leave ALL religion where man is elevated. Including a Baptist church with a pastor. God is the only one we need to be listening to. Period.
mcanz13 Absolutely right! Jesus didn't carry a Bible. And Paul said his gospel didn't come from man. His good news came from Christ Himself. Yet, so many are legalists and literalists and can't see that there's more to be seen in The Bible than rules and regulations. One day, I hope occultism and esotericism makes a HUGE comeback. Looks like we are seeing that now. Its beautiful
For the record, the woman won this debate. Not this pastor.
Hello Adam Holubar. I grew up as a roman catholic and then have become Christian. I would recommend looking into Jeff Durbin's video on the roman catholic church and it's doctrine please realize it is false much love God Bless
Lol who were the Copts then?
So many of us are praying for you Jocelyn! May God grant you repentance and faith! We love you!
Starting praying for Jocelyn the moment they engaged in conversation. We love you from the depths of our hearts Jocelyn.
Jocelyn, I love you buddy, for an atheist you debate in a circle trying to destroy the fact that you are a beloved image of god. As a loving Christian we love you the way you are.
Caleb Adams but that doesn’t mean that we agree with what he is doing and it is our job to judge righteously in order to save his soul.
Dominic Gomez How arrogant. You have a right to judge? Based on what a book says? What a joke!! The sooner religion collapses, the better.
The religious prey on tragedy and misfortune to indoctrinate people when they are the most vulnerable to suggestion. It's disgusting.
Justin Troyer Exactly. Religion is only used as a tool to divide people. And culture wash remote places. Why do white Christians feel the need to "spread their seed of faith" to places like New Guinea, Africa, S. America etc. I was raised Pentecostal and have family members that greedily give money to organizations (2 even founded their own) to establish their own churches in remote Papa New Guinea and Ghana Africa. How pathetic. To think that their version of the gospel (given by man and book) is somehow superior to what these villagers already know?
Religion is a disease. God and Love the cure. However, people take one Look at these pushy, rude, "know it all" Christians and think God must not be real bc their "god" is hateful, bitter, genocidal maniac. But that's not the True God. That's just the religious hypocrites god.
@@readingswithjenna9714 greedily give...... Greedily........ GIVE?
I felt the depth of sadness in their voice when they said they wanted to love God and felt like it was taken from them.... the enemy deceived a child and I pray Jesus redeems this person ✝️
HE, HIM
He is not "they " "them".
Sad...first Jocelyn says she believes in the big bang theory, then she says "I don't know what I believe"...But the fact that she ended the conversation with a hug is powerful! We *can* love one another.
@Hava F He*
We are all human beings and we are meant to love each other.
Yo, I’ve never felt such heart and compassion for the transgender community before this conversation. Thank you Jeff for the love of God clearly seen in you and the compassion that you have for everyone that you encounter. I can genuinely say that I have love for Jocelyn. This convo was amazing!
Stephen it’s a mental illness due to TRAUMA, that’s why we must love them !!! I was gay too!! God healed me though !
I think Joselyn said intersex or at least missing or added sex organs.
Which is different than transgender.
I wish Jeff had replied more about the thinking side of trans issues.
Because it's important to be a healthy whole individual.
Which includes truth about our body/mind connection.
Jocelyn stayed the course because ‘she’ really deep down wants to know God
He is a man
He ...Jocelyn is actually a man.
I hope he has realized God.
Pray for Jocelyn! That the LORD would set them free from bondage and gives them a new heart and His Spirit 💕🕊
You can tell that from the start. We all love God we all want to go home.
“Jocelyn” stayed the course because he really deep down wants to know God 🙏 I’m praying for him*
Man...honestly Joselyn is so sweet but so blinded. I just feel so much love for him...❤️ I admired how long he was there to listen which tells me deep down he WANTS truth in his life. Something is calling him inside and his spirit yearns for it but is the blindness that pushes him to resist.
Praying for you Joselyn ❤️❤️❤️
This young man is so hungry for God and he doesn't even realize it. Praying for his Salvation. 💖🙏
A man that's correct!
Woman, but yes God bless Jocelyn so she can accept God.
@@rawlee6719 God doesn't make mistakes. That's a man. He was created a man, born a man, and will die a man.
@@cindylouhart6945 Amen. No mistakes made. Gods creations are vast beyond our understanding. Our job is to respect and love one another.
I know he's not hostile at all he's lost and confused the answer is Jesus and and you can tell that's where his issue is because of professing Christians gave him the view that he is hated not giving him understanding that it is out of love they want him to find Jesus.
I really admire Jeff, I want to emulate him. He's a great example to follow. God keep blessing your ministry!
Emulate the actions of Jesus Christ brother. Jeff is a mere man, what attracts you to Jeff isn't Jeff but the Holy Spirit in him.
I pray the seeds that have been planted will continue to be watered and grow.
It was the “Hi mom” for me. 🤣🤣 I loved this conversation. Neither party was attacking or rude. ❤️ I’m a Christian and definitely a sinner saved by the grace of God! Jocelyn we do love you and we want you to be part of the family!!! I value your life and those of the unborn! ❤️ thank you for taking the time to talk to this pastor and just know we are praying for you and love you!!
Jocelyn: Gender dysphoria is an illness of the mind, you should have been loved by those who claimed Christ with UNCONDITIONAL love. We all sin and therefore need Jesus to receive salvation. God bless you and may you accept HIS (Jesus's) perfect love while the truth is in your heart. In Christ Jesus's name Amen.
Do your research because you're wrong. 😊
Wonderful. The time invested is priceless for him knowing that God loves him and that we do too.
Father Yahuwah help him. I pray that you bring him to your Son, Yahushua. Bring him to the truth to set him free.
I love how Durbin is able to talk to people, and break down surface barriers. Make them comfortable enough to talk...I learn so much, ty
hey I'm a really secular person but,I love this pastor...I think he's a genuine person with a good heart.and mostly of the times I don't think Christians have bad intentions.
Secular person?
The path to hell can be paved by good intentions and apathy. Good intentions don't always have a good outcome, not saying that applies to this situation in any way Jeff is amazing. Just saying be careful with good intentions, they don't always lead to good.
Amen
Jocelyn will surely come to Christ.
Evad trent I sure hope so
Amen 🙏
why she doesn't even believe in the bible or Christ.
@@lukev483 because they are receptive. Give these ppl time
@@yahyahyor Not everyone comes to Christ sadly. I don't know if he is going to.
jocelyn, your amazing and beautiful person. You are loved very much by God. keep seeking
Amen
DocHolliday311 *you’re
I love this video so much. The friendliness he shows to people who seem to be so far gone
I love it!! JESUS is The WAY The TRUTH and The LIFE✝️🙏💋💓
Jocelyn seems a nice person. I'll pray for him.
We shouldn't just pray for nice people too. Pray for those who persecute you
Appropriate Tilde Sure. And your proof?
lol, it sounds like you're only praying for him because he's nice
Russell Vacation for her
@@jamis2031 Him, but he's kinda nice so we should be courteous and call him a her.
this is very touching. and must say i got all teary watching.. there is no doubt that a seed has been planted.. joselyn is a beautiful child of God and he is loved. God bless this poor soul..
I think it's beautiful to see you connect with people. It's better for an open dialogue when you feel connected through shared experience. Good job.
Talk about been confused . A man who thinks he is woman that called himself an atheist - satanist and agnostic at the same time . I feel for this poor soul .
"I have never sinned" says the person who thinks everybody sins against them. False victimization is one of the best tactics for deception.
Well said!!
That was a great conversation both of you showed a lot of respect toward each other
These 1 on 1 evangelism videos encourage me to share my faith & be bold for Christ. God bless Pastor Jeff & other brothers & sisters going out to share the good news.
Wow you could literally see the war that is going on inside that man for possession of his soul. Every time he began to hear/see the truth you could almost actually see Satan cover his ears/eyes.Great job pastor I will be praying for him and you that you will get another chance and that the truth will finally win out.
Ivan Enfinger thy eyes are most weak. Behold, I saw Satan deflect everything he has ever heard. He is not trying. He is predestined to perish. No cure. No cure.
Ivan Enfinger yes !!!!! My heart breaks while I’m watching this ! Praying 🙏
So true it's obvious he is struggling, but you can see a sweet wanting soul
When I was child I could never have dreamed people would so openly and boldly claim satanism. It was so negative just 30 uears ago and less than that. Things are happenning so fast.
Gimongi mon It is shocking.
A lot of Satanists are nicer than Christians tbh
End times, for sure.
@@lickmypickle922 if being “nicer” means to allowing people to do “as thou wills” then yeah satanists are nicer than Christians. If a child had a dad who enforced strict rules and a mother who lets them eat candy day in and day out, undoubtedly would the child say the mom is more nice. The problem is that we people have a love for our sins but every sin we commit is a vain and passing pleasure when God sent his word and his prophets so that we may learn that there’s more to life than what we see and Christians have been able to see that light 💡
ALL true prayer warriors PRAY for the person in this video!!! The truth of the matter is the pain is running deep and the heart is crying out. PRAY PRAY PRAY!
Jeff's patience outstrips mine by several orders of magnitude. What an inspiration. I don't have this much patience with my own kids. What a reason to improve myself.
He is pained....i pray he shall surely come to christ, he has a malleable heart
Amen
It’s a she but ok
@@Tecom38415 you referred to him as an "it" he is a human male as is congruent with science, logic and understanding but is at odds with a cultural movement set on warping truth....this movement has no concern for the lives it harms and only uses these poor people to achieve the end result....the wake of destruction is also part of the agenda.
I’ve discovered Pastor Jeff and I’ve subscribed and am binge watching all the videos ❤️
Me too Julie! He's so refreshing! Not yelling and mean...
Just as Jesus♥️
Amen I too am grateful for Jeff and his team and have learned from them also,on the contrary we must remind ourselves that God deserves all the Glory.
I really do appreciate this conversation and am so glad it was as long as it was. Thank you, Jocelyn, for listening.
I love how gentle this preacher is. ❤
She makes a good point, the church has failed its people in so many ways! I hear that same thing over and over. Bless her heart!
Yes I felt that too....been there being judged all the time.....it's wrong to do that to someone
*HE*
Chirch will never be perfect. Or man. You should know this. God is the only one to trust. You can k ow by the fruits of a person as well when really desires to be more like Jesus
I was also failed by others but it's no excuse to stop my relationship with Jesus.
I commend pastor Jeff Durbin for his tireless efforts for saving lost souls,
it was obvious a misguided Jocelyn doesn't want eternal salvation right now.
He wants love and acceptance its what most people want..
God is the only one who can make it grow. We are called to sow day and night without waiting for what “looks right.” Ecclesiastes 11:4-6
Lord I lift up this precious creation work in Jocelyn’s life and bring your child home to you.
Why do you choose to believe joselyn is not home that is ridiculous who are you who knows the circumstances of joselyn destiny his journey with god/dog star is mind your own business and seek your own journey and your relationship that's out of whack fix your own problems pastor and your business house like everyone else keep checking your own foundations that's a Christian
@@helenfairhall6440 Jocelyn needs extreme help! Who are you to say it’s wrong to help someone who needs help?
Jocelyn has such a sweet spirit. Seriously, I can feel the call that is on your life... If Jocelyn sees this post, I sincerely love you even though I don’t know you. I also want to thank you for being out there fighting for civil rights of others. Please give God another try! He has blessed you and you’re so beautiful! ❤️
How can you believe in what you have no idea about? Joselyn, you are made in the image of God!
And god is made on the image of man. We have come full circle.
mhotl Nope.
Let's get the ego straightened out here what human believes they are a good in the gods image an empty vessel to be filled with the tree of life there is no such thing as sin I am glad the water bearer is here the Aquarian the man in the marketplace with the vessel Jesus said to seek and Yesuah not Jesus there were no J until 1400AD Germanic heroes a revelation jesus no J spells Jesus spelt in reverse as in the old laws as East is east as far from west as north is as far south the heaven the earth do not allow man to put asunder so with that I reveal mirrored back is sues (zeus) the Greek God . This is what your to learn not Greek or Roman but hebrew akkadian egyptian Mesopotamia Sumerian blah blah
Christ is in birthing please don't the story of the 3 wise men and star in the sky tell your parishioners the truth of the heaven bull worship ram worship fish worship but at all times use etymology and law books before the new world so your can understand I do not see any of the evidence in paper the pastor would need in his hand thus he is not speaking the words of god
The god says genesis 26 (let us make man in our image - who was god speaking to? ) THE OTHER GODS
And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and all over earth and over every creeping thing that creepiest on the earth.
Dominion under Law means the root of part of the structure of the house Domicile where one lives/resides to look at things from understanding thus should you have no checked from under the building one has no standing pastor you know these things and if not off to sabbatical to learn seek and yeah shall find thus all national, civilisations,linguistics,customs international and laws of the land hammurabi codex is a great place to start anyone can become the aquarius/water bearer thus wise in love for my fellow human species with the truth that has set me free
You gotta hand it to the pastor, he's definitely not preaching to the choir
Come home Joselyn! Rip that shirt off and come home! Forgive us for judging while not being perfect.
BooBoo Bear oh my gosh, I’m so sorry you are struggling. I will pray for you. if you want a friend to talk to I am on twitter as @bravethewind, if not on that platform I’ll give you my email.
I see this video is over three years old. I wonder if Jeff ever ran into Joslyn again.
Jocelyn, I hope you're here maybe reading through these comments, I hope you know that God loves you and wants you in his family
My heart aches for you Joselyn. I know this is old but the hurt that you have experienced breaks my heart. Thank you for being in the video. I hope that God has brought you into his grace and showed you the light.
Sadly pastor is pushing a corrupted bible he knows it mistranslations pastor your honesty pastor sadly you need to do more research .... you have no right to apologise using others to force your beliefs and your interpretation with force terrible plastic marketing sad state of affairs love is not dividing and conquering right or wrong very insecure young pastor accepting we are different so with that which version of 15 versions/laws of logic are you discussing
I pray that the Holy Spirit does not give Jocelyn a peaceful nights sleep until he/she relents and falls in love with the righteous God of love. He is TOTALLY able to turn Jocelyn's life completely around, the very same way He did mine, ours!! I was not seeking the Lord when He radically changed my life!!! True believers love you Jocelyn and want you to be reborn the way we were! We were enemies of God too. Thank you Pastor Jeff. Thank you for lovingly holding the standard!!
Incognitoo3 what happens to non Christians?
Football guy 1000 they spend eternity away from the God they rejected. All good things come from God, and there is such a thing as common grace. The sun shines on the wicked and the just, it rains on the wicked and the just. In eternity it will not be this way anymore. Those who die without Christ live in outer darkness and eventually the lake of fire. This is why believers warm and try to reason with unbelievers. I guess you probably knew these things already football guy.
You pray Jocelyn never has another peaceful night's sleep.... and you see nothing wrong with that. You people are blind to your evil.
Aeroldoth3 a person's eternal state is vastly more important than temporal pleasures.
Does a loving oncologist tell a patient if he has cancer and offer a cure or just tell them what they're dying to hear so not to ruin their day?? We all have cancer and that cancer is sin. The reason I commented the way I did is because this person was deeply wounded by professing Christians and turned away from God.
You know there is a God. You just don't want Him because you want to do as you please without having to answer to Him, which is foolishness. (All will answer to Him.) This is why so many spend so much time attacking Him. Why don't you all put forth this same effort against any of the world's other religions? They are false, that is why. You will see how blessed you were to be in a culture so deeply influenced and blessed by the God of the Bible when you finally eat the fruit of removing Him, if you don't repent. I hope you do. For your sake, not mine.
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When he started talking about the real real reason he left the church, I almost started crying. I felt his pain in my soul. I hope he realizes that those people that hurt him have free will to do good and bad and they chose to do him wrong. But Jesus love is pure. I hope one day he can see that.
Christians aren't perfect just forgiven..Look to Christ for perfection not people. Praying for you Joselyn. Go talk to Jesus he WILL answer you when you seek him with your WHOLE heart , He loves you so much if you were the only one on the planet he still would have gone to the crosss just for you. :) Take it from a real big ex unbeliever . Gods love grace and mercy to you..♥
He doesn't want to see the truth!! He needs a deliverance!! Glory to God!!! I pray he will see the truth and will come to Jesus feet before it's too late!!!
Amen!
The truth came out in the conversation. She was born with both parts. How is it sinful that she picked one?
Its amazing to see the love seen here as evidenced by the patience the pastor has with a lost soul. It directly reflects the ministry of Christ during his life.
And you can truly see this person is truly searching for truth.
I see goodness and love in Jocelyn. Hope and pray he comes to Christ. Sometimes people just need to be challenged in a loving way.
A painting has a painter I don't get people's foolishness. God is real
Alright, who created God?
Pastor Jeff, bless you for your patience! It wasn't just Jocelyn contending with you, but a host of very destructive spirits who seek only the most despicable end for Jocelyn. Prayers going up for both of you!
"I would think you're speaking in tongues."
That was great. I love how an atheist can get in on Christian humor xD
I pray to be as knowledgeable and God loving as this pastor 🙏💗 i really feel inspired by his fire for the lord its so beautiful 😭 even his preaching is amazing!
I truly believe you have a gift Jeff. God bless you. I love that our father puts intelligent people before you that need another intellectual to break down the walls in their minds with facts and reason. Holy Spirit is loving and powerful and it’s present with you brother. Great video. Thank you for sharing
❤️Modern day Paul! Praising GOD!!
"When you oppose someone it's because you don't like them. It's not because you love them." That sums up a belief that is ingrained in society. It's hard to break past that wall.
Trent Hinkson Paul must have hated/didn't like Peter, that's why he opposed him to his face lol.
I agree with you, we must break this cycle. My parents opposed all kinds of stuff I did growing up, they must not have love for me - those meanies!!
Mariano Rodgers
Very well put
That's an illogical thought process. I quote, " when you oppose someone it's because you don't like them. It's not because you love them. So by your logic, if I oppose people that do meth etc, it's because I don't like them, not because I don't want them to hurt or damage their bodies. What kind of a logic is that? Is that not epitome of loving someone? The intentions of wanting to inform the person regarding drugs and potentially saving them from an overdose?
So you dont believe in correcting your children
Trent Hinkson thats true