10-8 Performance Lab, Episode 83: Timney Alpha Trigger Kit
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- Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance reviews the Timney Alpha Trigger Kit for the Glock.
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I installed this trigger on Thursday and put 350 rounds through the gun on Sunday without any malfunctions. So far, so good.
I have no problem carrying a Timney or Glock performance trigger, but I also do more maintenance than most (with lube and replacing springs and sticking with all stock spring weights).
I’ve seen where the GPT requires lubrication every 1K rounds, and assume the Timney is the same, so that’s what I do. If it ever fails, I’ll drop it for sure…but so far, so good.
I got the Timney trigger never had any issues with it but the reset on it sucks even with the red spring. So I ordered the Jonny Glocks shoe upgrade and it came with a heavier reset spring and the shoe has a adjustment screw in it to adjust the take up. Love it now!
I was walking around delivering mail today and hoping this video would be up when I got home.
You go into such detail. I love that. Thank you.
Thank you for the great review!
as an EDC, I agree with the safety aspect. I will only carry a stock trigger on my g43. I do, on the other hand, use a Timney on my competition G34. A Timney Alpha along with a Johnny Glock Vex trigger shoe is the ultimate combination. No more reset overtravel and adjustable pre-travel. Right now, my breaks at around 2.75 Lbs
Thank you for sharing your expertise
Interesting review on the Timney trigger. Having 2nd thoughts now.
I appreciate your technical expertise. I learn stuff Every time.
I had one of the 1st gens on a gen 3. But had light strikes and went to overwatch precision tac model witch works like a champ
Trigger pull weight, travel, etc. in striker fired platforms is interesting as it pertains to carry. Some manufacturers like Walther have pushed the envelope and come out with some really amazing triggers in carry guns. Are they too light, and is travel too short? It's a personal question and depends on comfort and expertise. I certainly appreciate people with significant experience explaining their opinions on the subject. It's an important issue if you carry. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for the detailed information about this trigger. My concern about the Timney trigger was exactly how it changed operating mechanism to essentially a single action gun without a manual safety. I suppose I might consider it for my USPSA gun as I've had issues with a popular aftermarket Glock trigger, but your discussion of the issues people have encountered gives me pause.
Johnny Glocks makes a combat/duty upgrade for the timmney trigger. It brights the pull weight to 4.5 or 5.5lbs and has a distinct and hard wall but still a super crisp clear break
Yes a review of this would be awesome
This has his super short reset?
about to drop a timney in an M&P2c n landed here. knowledge is knowledge and is transportable. my way of saying - im Subbed - good stuff!
great review i wish i had your guidance before i invested
a grub screw mounted through the rear end of the trigger guard and adjusted correctly makes a great trigger stop. i have a few i’ve done and if tightly fitted will not move. also on my stock gen 4 19 it’s the only glock trigger you can dry fire with a loose grip one handed and the sights don’t move. i made a ten second you tubevideo i think i called it glock five cent trigger job.
Very timely video that will save me some money, thanks Hilton. What connector did they use to get a "3" lb pull?
Nice work on the video can you do the Johnny Glock trigger , both the carry and competition
Timney with Johnny Glock kit is amazing. Night and day difference. I have the JG kit in my OZ9C which I carry and the standard Timney in my OZ9 which I don’t carry.
Can you do a video on the newer Glock performance trigger?
Need… more… 10-8
Good video, thanks Hilton. Do you feel the same way about factory fully cocked striker handguns like Walthers / Caniks? Or is it just that this trigger system is 3rd party (not stock)?
This is the second video ive seen from your channel, i love the detail and the way you present the information. Im considering getting a membership to patreon but i wanted to know if you do a lot of work on other guns as well? Specifically AR15s. Im not really a glock guy but i love learning about guns.
Thanks for watching! Patreon has thus far focused on handguns - 1911, Glock the most - but I have had requests for AR stuff as well.
Hi Hilton, thanks for the video. I got the Timney glock trigger when it first came out and it seems like there have been some additions to the kit (only one trigger return spring and no retaining plate on the set screw) but mine was for gen 4. Have you tried using the lighter trigger return spring and the + connector? I run that setup and it yields a solid pull weight and nice wall.
You can reach out to Timney customer service and they will mail you the c clip and the other spring for free.
Given your background with LE and shooting to a high standard of precision. What drills do you look for to keep precision sharp?
What you need is the unmarked connector (5lbs), that comes standard with the Gen 3, to get the trigger pull in the weight range you want.
I used that and it netted out same weight as the dot connector.
Does it make the reset longer to engage?
I really like the trigger, improved my accuracy over the stock trigger. Definitely a range gun for me, no way I’d use for carry. 👍
Radian Ram Jet and Afterburner barrel and Comp review please
I'm glad you tried a plus connector. I was wondering what effect that would have. Was a standard glock connector tried or just minus, dot, and plus?
I’m using the Timney with JohnnyGlocks Vex trigger upgrade and a Ghost Rocket connector and trigger housing with a set screw. Works great.
This trigger can be adjusted in str 9 s combat? because it is a glock 19 clone gen 3 4
Absolutely agree I’ve had nothing but issues since I installed my Timney trigger
Funny how the trigger pull weight is so different between users, probably caused by the fact no Glock is the same, tolerances are out there. My Stock GEN 5 G17 gives 2lbs 13 oz which is too light for even competition (IPSC Production division, 3lbs min). Although in Open and Standard division it wouldn't matter. With plus connector it's closer to 4lb 13 oz which is too much (My stock PDP gives 3lb 13 oz). Next I guess I have to try the "standard" connector without dot, a.k.a 5.5lb connector. It's a great system overall when you get it to work properly, but I don't think it's a really drop in trigger in all cases. Still worth the money especially for the competition shooters.
I used a timney for 1000 rounds between 2 Glocks. Both Glocks would have light primer strikers on many different kinds of ammo, even with different connectors, and a 6.5lb striker spring. Will not recommend the trigger to anyone due to the massive amount of wasted time and ammo on this kit. Even sent it back to timney and got a new one...same thing.
I am also very careful with mods to Glock triggers. Pretty much all I do is find a shoe I like the feel of, cleaned up trigger bar, 10-8 connector. I just accept that the Glock trigger is gonna be what it is. If I want a specific trigger feel/pull that requires more than those simple mods then I need to get a different gun. Just my opinion. Love the shirt and hoodie btw they feel great.
I highly recommend a Sig P320 X Carry Legion. The Sig is everything I wish my G17 could be. The trigger is amazing, but not 1911 amazing. The grip feels awesome. The balance and presentation is almost perfect. Safe money on mods for a Glock and purchase a Sig.
I just wish that there were more aftermarket parts and accessories for Glock 45ACP pistols.
Market drives that - just not that many .45’s out there to justify
Johnny Glocks has a “Combat Conversion kit” for the Timney Trigger for about $72. I’m curious to know if that kit would address the issues you see with this trigger.
Nothing that I did, which is basically the same overall result as that kit, address that the gun basically turns into a single action minus a manual safety.
Agreed on the Alpha, Hilton. It's definitely a hit and miss on whether or not it functions in each specific pistol. I'd say tolerance stacking but the reports of failures are quite high. It is funny when folks commenting on my video on the Alpha claim that I had installed it wrong when I followed Timney's instructions to a "T" and used all OEM parts. Some of the folks even later replied that they started experiencing issues after the fact and edited their comments.
I definitely understand that the Alpha may require fiddling but that goes against Timney's claim that it will work with OEM components without the need for a gunsmith. It is also suspect that they've recently released a striker and connector combo for 80 bucks more that only works with the Alpha. Really, it seems to be a design flaw or perhaps shouldn't be advertised as it currently is. I am running their Gen 3 and Gen 5 Enhanced Feel Shoes, and so far so good on those but that is to be expected considering the retention of the OEM system.
Great video from a fellow LAS family member. 🥰
Thanks for the feedback! I watched your video on the Alpha as well! I like their Enhanced Feel shoes as well, still testing those out.
@@108Performance The shoes definitely requires that I alter my finger placement over the oem's more curved (finger hug 🤗) shape. I had a few "this doesn't feel right" moments. 😂
Mine failed in a Shadow Systems DP920P……I am not pleased with the gun……not sure it was the triggers fault.
Everyone says it's a 3 lb trigger. I'd be happy with full 4pb
Of topic but, what do you think about the Bul Armory (Magnum Research) 1911s. I bought the 3" officers 45cal lightweight but haven't fired it yet. I was always told never go below 4.25 commander length, but after seeing a bunch of more than positive reviews I couldn't pass it up. Just wanted to hear your thoughts.
Just for another option/yucks/info, a Glock UNMARKED connector, which is in-between the dot and plus connectors might be tried in that G19Gen5. I don't have a Timney trigger kit or else I'd personally try it and post my own opinion. Just an FYI.
Agreed the standard connector provides a more pronounced wall and pull...
I got the same pull weight as dot connector.
@@108Performance I agree with the pull weight, just seems to have a tad more of a firm wall, range and steel trigger only for me too...
I got myself a Timney... Got rid of it and went back to an OEM. I don't really see any performance advantage, and I am not being concerned with reliability.
Spongy as hell yu can see and hear it
Do you have one or are you telling me what I feel under my finger from watching the video?
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I bought this as a shoe and really dislike the geometry. There’s not enough flat surface area for me.
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Springfield!
@@108Performance thank you sir! I already informed him and he said to come and pick up my Garrison. What 10 round 9mm magazines should I purchase and use because it comes with a 9 rounder. I would want it to be in double digits. (10 + 1)
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@@108Performance thank you
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Single action, no safety. No thanks.
Exactly.