This is the real threat to us. They get away with violating constitutional rights while in the damn military, then they come out thinking they can do it to us.
That is 100% correct. This is the biggest problem with police today. Ex-military who have been trained to kill the enemy have retained that thought process when dealing with citizens. Scary.
8:44... ”You are wasting military police time and civilian police time”. No, it is exactly the opposite. YOU are wasting your time by not honor your oath. YOU are wasting tax payers money with your ignorance.
@@brendabrown8378 really? 😆 i guess . but i think you need to read it again and understand what that person said. English is my second language by the way
Brenda Brown I guess you don’t understand that the people who work for the Water Dept are Public Servants? Hmmmm... don’t think I’m the idiot... but thanks for the laugh, you made my evening. Can’t beat CZcams for entertainment! Haha...
***** Couple of things. The person recording wasn't on the base's property so they had no authority over. Nor should the military ever have any kind of authority over civilians. You say the uniform, rank and badge gives them respect. Why and how? A person can have the cleanest uniform and shiniest badge but if that person is an incompetent buffoon they don't deserve respect. They have to earn it.
Peter Burnett and Texas has a law that says MPs only have to go to civilian cop school like 3 weeks and are officially licensed lawmen in Texas. insanity.
Not Awake Exactly, something that's these morons have no clue, nor do really care what these MPs are preventing. These unknown pieces of shit just taking out of there ass.
They can ask a person anything they want unless they see a crime being committed they cannot do anything if they don't answer. If asking is investigating then they can investigate I suppose. However. It may be illegal to film ON a military base but it is not illegal to film FROM a public road or sidewalk anything you can see. So they have no business telling him he cannot film what he can see while standing outside their jurisdiction.
philipem1000 The guy who's posting this video has something against Law Enforcement. All his videos are to degrade law enforcement. If he we're to go a Black neighborhood and do the same thing he would most likely get shot.
he only checked so he would be sure he COULD oppress this man. He clearly stated he HOPED he could “force” this man to identify. He was still being an ass.
One of a small elite group of smart auditors. There are a few others that I respect. But then theres this shitty crowd of the worst auditors ever, that are causing such a scene to where new laws are coming at the state level to block them. I live in FLorida, and its happening here soon.
As a retired soldier, these MP's embarrass me. They need additional training. The Bill of Rights. "You honestly don't have any better to do with your time?" Where is their Commander?
People who have nothing and no skills often join the military. It’s no surprise the MPs are basically braindead. One has to be dumb in the first place to give ones life to the US Government.
Cop: "I hope that I can legally FORCE you to give me ID..." Amazing. Gotta wonder...The police see someone filming / taking photos out in public. Not against the law to be out in public. Not against the law to film / take photos out in public. not against the law to film anything you see out in public. So why do they need to ID that person, and why is do they think someone not breaking any laws is "suspicious?" I've watch a lot of these 1st amendment audit videos,and many times they say it's because they "don't know what you're doing." Not too bright - a guy with a video camera out in public, I dunno...maybe he's...videotaping out in public! Not too bright, those police officers.
Thank you for holding military installations accountable on constitutional rights. Thank you for being professional too. I'm in the military and I'm with you on this one. Better training just needs to occur with Military police.
I saw a video once where the young MP, after the videographer denied all requests to stop filming and declined to ID, the MP said in the radio “he’s refusing to give up his rights”. He knew the videographer was legal, as do all cops, but cops would NEVER admit a citizen has rights.
I completely agree with the police,I'm so sick of these camera holding annoying people recording without consent. I'm employing this method publicly from now on anyone points a cell phone camera in my direction. Your right to be rude and invade anyone's privacy will not work anymore. I will shine my compact high beam light at your camera,or at your face if I have to. Damn cell phone generations. I had an argument with some Arab looking latino tonight,and he calls the cops and starts recording me..shine the light in his camera. You can record all you,want,but I have a right to blind your camera,and protect my right to privacy. I'm sick of these annoying 1st and 2nd amendment nut jobs. We need to change the amendments,then see what these disrespectful,rude,annoying camera want to be heroes would do. What will these gun nuts do without their guns? Cowards,the both of these type of people are. If you can not defend yourself without a weapon ,you are a coward. If you randomly film the police in public you are a disrespect,amendment abusing,person with too much time on their hands. I will continue to employ the tactic of shining flashlight at people's cell phones in public.
Thx for your time that you take to articulate, when in the field it is educational, for all, and your calm style is Resected by many....As Always be Safe
"Your wasting valuable military police time." Those guys are getting paid the exact same amount to harass you, as they would be actually working. Go kick rocks you little tyrants, YOU'RE DISMISSED!
these are the people that you pay to shoot you if you try too hard to exercise your rights. just look at any past event with large crowds of pissed off citizens looking to flex their freedom. remember..they will kill you and your children
Jesus Bustamante 🤔 you don’t think they’ll kill you? A National Guardsman just shot and killed an unarmed business owner during the protests. He paid to have himself killed.
This is still amazing in Aug of 2019. What worries me is how many of them are now or will be hired by some police force and showing this arrogance and trying to control citizens.
Daniel Celli slightly more concerning in June 2020 considering national guard troops were just in our cities shooting/killing unarmed/respected business owners.
So, coming from my perspective, and experience. 9/10 MP response is as strong as it is when someone is recording because they could be working with Foreign Militaries to gather information about our procedures and security levels.
@@agamnon2619 I understand your point and vehemently disagree. I spent nearly a decade in Military Intelligence (MI). I spent my entire military career, even on deployments, on Air Force and Army installations with SCIFs (secret compartmented information facility), aside from going outside the wire. 90% of my MI company held TS clearances. We had MPs headquartered at our base in Europe. Almost all of my Battalion held secret clearances. I took an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, both foreign and domestic. The only enemies are those who would wear a uniform and attempt to violate the freedom and rights of the PEOPLE. Those who trade their freedoms and constitutional rights for security deserve neither. I sincerely hope you will reconsider your opinion on the matter.
jeff MacDonald if you can name every single law from memory in a fucking bible sized book of codes, then you can talk about "because I don't know the laws"
Its almost as if there is. Since this isnt a main gate, theres no signs. But theres a sign thats just a blank white sign that marks the boundary for MP/County. This looks to be an impromptu gate, probably because another nearby gate is being worked on, and with how close it looks to be, and I could be wrong since its a video, but I think their jurisdiciton extends to the road, and probably over to the Exchange Gas Station. Not sure where it would extend to on the other side.
Gosh, that was painful to watch. You certainly proved the point but I think a repeat visit is in order. SCAT team with a 1st and 2nd combination audit may be just the thing.
as a guess these GIMP'S DEFINITELY DID NOT GET THE MEMO ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPHY LAWS FROM THE SUPREME COURT SAYING THAT PHOTOGRAPHY CANNOT BE CLASSED HAS A CRIME 😠🤡🤡🤡
I know this is a old video but damn it is such a good 1 and those soldier boys were all punks. I have no idea how you stay so calm when dealing with BLUE ISIS
don't disrespect my authoritah!!! Love what you do brother, although I am very saddened that you find yourself up against mindless morons who are itching to either beat you up or throw you in a cage, these public officials are paid by the public (you) to protect the public (you), what a joke. very sick state of affairs. 3:05 Sheriff says he hopes he can force you to ID, if so you going to jail, POS. :( God bless you Battousai, you are the only American hero on this video. The guys who got your phone were good Samaritans, the rest of the bunch.... Garbage
Got to be honest with you. This is my first time seeing you. I subscribed in the beginning of the vid. When they started bullying you and you didn't respond, I unsubscribed. Then you stood up and told them they can't kick you off of public property and guess what, yeah, you got a new sub bro. Good work. Btw, that was pretty cool that you got your phone back and it still works
You need to contact the commanding General of the post and show him this video so he can teach his troops the legal and proper way to interact with the public.
12:40 " ... he was raised not to respect authority..." Might be a different result if the MP wasn't trying to exert an authority he does not have on what is obviously non federal public property.
I'm going to do a 1st A A in a couple of weeks where I used to live as soon as I get some documents I need from a friend of mine that is a lawyer. Watching this only drives home the point that people not only don't know the law and rights under the law they don't even know the scope of their own authority. You most definitely need to pay them another vist and don't go alone this time the more cameras the better.
Yeah legally he is detained cz it is a offense and they have it posted on acp now that can't be recording The only dumb one here I'd guy filming and that's jz disrespectful Do like everybody else get you pass come on and do what ya need do don't be making stupid controversy over nothing
This is not really the same thing. Basically this becomes a security issue. This guy could be filming security procedures with the intent to plan an attack or something. Remember that the folks at hood have had some serious incidents I recent memory. Filming an ECP is a federal offense.
RICARDO DEL POZO I’ve watched Turner for sometime, he’s very well informed regarding the boundaries of his right to recorded. He doesn’t look for trouble.
we have a jurisdiction line, and from my prior MP time, I can make an assumption that they were allowed to have Jurisdiction out to the road. and MAYBE 50-75 FT in each direction of the enterance, maybe 100ft.
The goons that swore an oath are harrassing the guy excersizing his rights, asking him if he has nothing better to do? The police determined that no law was being broken and they're still bothering you. Unreal.
All that fire, piss and vinegar, and complaining how they couldn't leave til you left....and they left without getting their way. Probably still don't comprehend how ridiculous they come off for trying to enforce their regulations on a civilian , on public property, who isn't breaking the law. That shot of Kirk 15:31 turning back around to glare like a petulant child is priceless. I used to live in Central Texas. They think the base extends to the county line.
GOLLY...even this COP doesn't know the law. What they heck do they study in police academy? How to find the nearest donut shop? God! If he arrests you, you get to sue the city...and make thousands...go for it.
I'm an MP myself. Those MPs were just doing their jobs. It's so easy to say for those people who are trolling and not in the military to say police men or us military service members don't know shit about the federal government law and state government law to do our part or at least to serve our time we've given for y'all. Did they abuse their authority ? No. Did they ask you to do something more than once ? yes even POLITELY, but you have every right to ask military members question about State property vs. Federal Property. This man whos been recording and being cynical to prove a point. Please don't record MPs in the field or on base. Keep your phone's to a minimum of military police exposure to social media. It may be part of an ongoing investigation. For your convenience.
I must admit if this were me and i encountered these guys acting this way it would have went much different, i commend you on staying so calm and cool during all of this, its really ridiculous that this is what our military has become, i guess these days they are so desperate for anyone who is willing to violate american rights that they will enlist anyone.
Hahahaha. When you tell him you will point it to the ground you can tell that he knows he has no ground to stand on and just slowly turns away. I love it when he tells you to turn your go-pro off and put it in your pocket. LOL. It's amazing how much power these people think they have. WOW. Even at the 8.27 mark after the cop said all is good they still want to come and tell you to turn your camera off. Just for that I would ramp uptake filming. LOL. How dumb are these MP's. LOL.
I like the way you intelligently dealt with those MPs at the end of this video, you really made them look like idiots...simply masterful! Even though that deputy's attitude wasn't that bad (imo), he still unlawfully detained you and threatened to falsely arrest you for "Failure To ID". I don't know what it is with some cops that think they can just run up on you and demand that you assist them in violating your 4th amendment right. Even though he didn't try to press you for ID, these Texas cops should know by now that TX is not a "Stop and Identify" state and they can't just lock somebody up simply for not identifying themselves (Brown v. Texas 1979, Dutton v. Hayes-Pupko 2008). Glad you got your phone back, glad it still worked. Be safe bruh!
"What CRIME do you SUSPECT ME of COMMITTING?" PLEASE don't ALLOW them to use the words "Suspicious Activity" OUT OF CONTEXT. Hold them accountable (or educate them). Keep up the good work.
AR 190-11 Chapter 4-15 Restricted Area designation part (a) spells out that the facility commander's authority for enforcing the "Restricted Area" is, "derived from Title 50 United States Code section 797 (50 USC 797) (Internal Security Act 1950), implemented by DODI 5200.08 and DOD 5200.8-R". (NOTE: AR 190-11 Chapter 4-15 part (a) can be found at docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=dXNhcm15anJvdGMuY29tfGpyb3RjLXN1cHBseXxneDo1YmRkMDA1MzRiZmFmNWQ2 ) I'm not going to look up Title 50 United States Code section 797 (50 USC 797) for you. You are on your own to do that - and, to decide whether it applies to (a) what you are doing, and, (b) the facility you were at. Again, I haven't read (50 USC 797), so I don't know how/if it applies. It could be quite possible that it's a federal offense to photograph that facility from a mile away (even if you were on public property. You'd have to read/decipher the U.S. Code to determine that. You mentioned your "rights". As we all know, there are restrictions on some of them. It's the old "don't yell "FIRE" in a movie theater thing. Yeah, we can certainly do it, but, we can all be arrested for doing it. This "photographing a military facility might be one of those type of restrictions. Good luck, Phillip. Oh, yeah, I had to laugh when the cop said, "It's my responsibility to determine whether or not I think an offense has occurred. If I believe an offense has occurred, and you fail to ID, I'm going to place you under arrest". Well, that'd work - IF he has "lawfully arrested you and requested the information" - but, not for failure to ID. I'm guessing that's why he told you that you were free to leave. If they've got so many MP's that they can devote to you, why don't they have some of them pick up all the "shit" I see laying on the ground?
These MP's definitely need better training. I retired from Ft. Hood in 2009, (1st Cav), and most MP's are better behaved than that. Most MP's go through a "Homeland Security" training briefing as well and I think this buckethead crossed some of his policies. They DO have authority off post due to local SOFA policy and it also gives civilian police authority on post as well.
Liberty Village is off post military housing, so going in transit to and from is allowed. If I recall correctly, there is a buffer zone outside the gates that MPs have jurisdiction of, so they may be playing off of that. Not justifying what they did, please don't think I am.(Stationed on Fort Hood 2009-2017, NOT a MP)
I went and looked it up.. LOL here it is.. (g) The fact that a person takes a photograph or makes an audio or video recording of a public officer or peace officer, while the officer is in a public place or the person taking the photograph or making the recording is in a place he or she has the right to be, does not constitute, in and of itself, a violation of subdivision (a), nor does it constitute reasonable suspicion to detain the person or probable cause to arrest the person.
+jacksprat418, Dude, READ THE FUCKING SIGN! The Restricted Area sign clearly states that photography of the facilities is prohibited without specific permission from the commander. "The facilities" includes the gate and the entire fence line. This jackass was violating federal law. It doesn't matter where he was filming from.
At the very least, I'll give that Deputy props, for being taking the position that, "I'm not sure if you're committing an offense or not...let me look it up the law along with the accepted interpretation of it. That's pretty a pretty professional approach. But those military guys can eat my shorts. YOU are not wasting their time...THEY are wasting their time.
I don’t think I’ve shared this, but I’m retired Army. These ass clowns. I don’t fund government activities so their agents can come to me supposedly operating in an official capacity to cast disparaging comments and presume that I should get their approval on what I choose to do with my time. The base commander is quite aware of what your rights are, I’m sure. The fact that they are investigating your activity, I commend those soldiers. Obviously, they were no longer alarmed at what you were doing as far as a security threat, so then they decided to share their personal contempt for you and your actions while acting in an official capacity. I guarantee that if you ask to speak to the base commander, or even the company commander of those troops, he/she will go up one side and down the other. I highly recommend you do so. If they behave like that with no consequences, they will be of the opinion that they where right. Nothing will change and when someone else who is not as level headed as you are escalates it to a physical confrontation, someone gets hurt. It is regardless who gets hurt, the point is that if the training is there, the threat of violent confrontations diminishes, which should be the best overall outcome of each encounter. Make sense?
I am a retired Army First Sergeant. It disturbs me when armed soldiers leave their installation and confront civilians.
Amen Top!
Anyone who has been in the military or lived around a military post knows that there is nothing special or top secret at the entry gates.
Especially when they are that smart. Real Gomers
it disturbs me when people offer to arrest someone else but are not sure if they legally can or not.
Rgr that one Top!!!
And after these military cops have served their terms, they will be on the streets in a city near you dressed as LEOs. Frightening!
This is the real threat to us. They get away with violating constitutional rights while in the damn military, then they come out thinking they can do it to us.
Hopefully they expire before that
That is 100% correct. This is the biggest problem with police today. Ex-military who have been trained to kill the enemy have retained that thought process when dealing with citizens. Scary.
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No, after they come out of service they will go back to flipping burgers.
8:44... ”You are wasting military police time and civilian police time”.
No, it is exactly the opposite. YOU are wasting your time by not honor your oath. YOU are wasting tax payers money with your ignorance.
good god someone has never worked the gates in their life
@@tylerbunner4353 Right. He’s probably new at work.
Your a waste of space
Sounds like no one knows the law here
Or the Constitution or Bill of Rights or why they're even in the military.
I could feel my IQ drop as those MPs were yapping
Well tardy to the party but that asvab score min clearly decreases exponentially with dumb and dumber’s continued embarrassingly Flintstoned comments.
Dropping way down.
Now THAT is a Public Servant! I can't believe they got your phone out of that sewer...those soldiers are a disgrace to their post.
It wasn’t the soldiers that got the phone it was someone else idiot
@@brendabrown8378 really? 😆 i guess . but i think you need to read it again and understand what that person said. English is my second language by the way
Brenda Brown I guess you don’t understand that the people who work for the Water Dept are Public Servants? Hmmmm... don’t think I’m the idiot... but thanks for the laugh, you made my evening. Can’t beat CZcams for entertainment! Haha...
unfortunately those "soldiers" will likely take jobs as cops when they are done with the military.
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It's like talking to blocks of wood in uniforms.
So true.
Loosers
@@jonnyp420jp English
Dept. Of Homeland security memo says you can film any gov. Installation.
You’re fucking stupid
@@brendabrown8378 - OP is correct, so why the name calling?
@@brendabrown8378 seeing as how you have no idea what you're talking about, you're the fucking moron.
@@brendabrown8378 Are you just special on CZcams are you that stupid in real life
@@brendabrown8378 back at ya Karen
These guys really are stupid. Right after the deputy let you go, they start right back up.
Right? I would have asked them to call the cops if they think I'm doing something wrong. See how many times we could go in circles.
That is a dangerous game. You really think these people obey the law all the time?
16:57 @@trevorleeoakley7434our rights are not a game.
You had those military cops speechless and walking away.
THANK YOU SO MUCH !
Right on Mr. Turner, glad you stood your ground! Walk of shame!!!!!!
MPs wasting their own time & blaming it on someone they're harassing. The stupidity is astounding.
Still an exceptional audit my friend. I love you let them talk and talk and dig that hole most belong in. Thank you sir!
"you're trying to kick me off public property which you have no authority over" lol priceless
Clearly, these MP's haven't learned the lesson yet! Further enlightenment is needed!
if there are people needing help with serious matters then why are you messing with a cameraman
Like what ????? Someone lost money in the soda machine!!!?????😂😂😂😂😂😂
Respect authority. Just because you got a badge, a uniform and a rank/title doesn't mean you automatically get respect. You earn it.
monitor1862 hell it didn't even automatically give you authority. they say he doesn't respect authority, and yet they realize they have none
***** Couple of things. The person recording wasn't on the base's property so they had no authority over. Nor should the military ever have any kind of authority over civilians.
You say the uniform, rank and badge gives them respect. Why and how? A person can have the cleanest uniform and shiniest badge but if that person is an incompetent buffoon they don't deserve respect. They have to earn it.
***** Thank you. But you didn't answer my question. Why should a person be respected just because they have on a uniform/badge if they're incompetent?
Matt you're an idiot
They earned badges
He said the military police had serious matters, but then they stand there, wow just wow!
Peter Burnett and Texas has a law that says MPs only have to go to civilian cop school like 3 weeks and are officially licensed lawmen in Texas. insanity.
Not Awake I think you and I have different opinions on promptness and threats.
Not Awake Exactly, something that's these morons have no clue, nor do really care what these MPs are preventing. These unknown pieces of shit just taking out of there ass.
They can ask a person anything they want unless they see a crime being committed they cannot do anything if they don't answer. If asking is investigating then they can investigate I suppose.
However. It may be illegal to film ON a military base but it is not illegal to film FROM a public road or sidewalk anything you can see. So they have no business telling him he cannot film what he can see while standing outside their jurisdiction.
philipem1000 The guy who's posting this video has something against Law Enforcement. All his videos are to degrade law enforcement. If he we're to go a Black neighborhood and do the same thing he would most likely get shot.
I have to give the Sheriff some credit here. He actually checked, and he operated within the law.
he only checked so he would be sure he COULD oppress this man. He clearly stated he HOPED he could “force” this man to identify. He was still being an ass.
@@beastshawnee4987 exactly
Nevertheless, checked, couldn't, admitted it and left. He followed the law.
@@gingw7333 He reluctantly followed the law, you don't get a pat on the back for doing the right thing.
But he wanted to hem him up bad
I love how they're complaining about how they're wasting their time because you're doing nothing illegal. Lmao how thick can you be?
Amen brother. Your respectful but assertive temperament is perfect. You're the smartest auditor on CZcams.
One of a small elite group of smart auditors. There are a few others that I respect. But then theres this shitty crowd of the worst auditors ever, that are causing such a scene to where new laws are coming at the state level to block them. I live in FLorida, and its happening here soon.
That cop straight said I hope I have a reason to arrest you. And we wonder where the problem is.
As a retired soldier, these MP's embarrass me. They need additional training. The Bill of Rights.
"You honestly don't have any better to do with your time?" Where is their Commander?
Thank you
commander was somewhere in some toilet taking a dump that day .. 😂
People who have nothing and no skills often join the military. It’s no surprise the MPs are basically braindead. One has to be dumb in the first place to give ones life to the US Government.
Respect authority in other words lower your head and obey
Cop: "I hope that I can legally FORCE you to give me ID..." Amazing. Gotta wonder...The police see someone filming / taking photos out in public. Not against the law to be out in public. Not against the law to film / take photos out in public. not against the law to film anything you see out in public. So why do they need to ID that person, and why is do they think someone not breaking any laws is "suspicious?" I've watch a lot of these 1st amendment audit videos,and many times they say it's because they "don't know what you're doing." Not too bright - a guy with a video camera out in public, I dunno...maybe he's...videotaping out in public! Not too bright, those police officers.
It was rare that the cop was at least honest about it!
Thank you for holding military installations accountable on constitutional rights. Thank you for being professional too. I'm in the military and I'm with you on this one. Better training just needs to occur with Military police.
He CANNOT arrest you for failing to ID unless and until you have been lawfully arrested, and he knows that!
I saw a video once where the young MP, after the videographer denied all requests to stop filming and declined to ID, the MP said in the radio “he’s refusing to give up his rights”. He knew the videographer was legal, as do all cops, but cops would NEVER admit a citizen has rights.
Thank you for standing up for what little rights we still have left.
kind of ironic these guys are guarding a place called "Liberty Village".
MitchStarRepublic
thanks I thought the same thing
Ryan W you are a cowardly traitor.
MitchStarRepublic This must be where they keep all the super expensive collage books
lol
I completely agree with the police,I'm so sick of these camera holding annoying people recording without consent. I'm employing this method publicly from now on anyone points a cell phone camera in my direction. Your right to be rude and invade anyone's privacy will not work anymore. I will shine my compact high beam light at your camera,or at your face if I have to. Damn cell phone generations. I had an argument with some Arab looking latino tonight,and he calls the cops and starts recording me..shine the light in his camera. You can record all you,want,but I have a right to blind your camera,and protect my right to privacy.
I'm sick of these annoying 1st and 2nd amendment nut jobs. We need to change the amendments,then see what these disrespectful,rude,annoying camera want to be heroes would do. What will these gun nuts do without their guns? Cowards,the both of these type of people are. If you can not defend yourself without a weapon ,you are a coward. If you randomly film the police in public you are a disrespect,amendment abusing,person with too much time on their hands. I will continue to employ the tactic of shining flashlight at people's cell phones in public.
Thx for your time that you take to articulate, when in the field it is educational, for all, and your calm style is Resected by many....As Always be Safe
The future of law enforcement.
"Your wasting valuable military police time."
Those guys are getting paid the exact same amount to harass you, as they would be actually working.
Go kick rocks you little tyrants, YOU'RE DISMISSED!
these are the people that you pay to shoot you if you try too hard to exercise your rights. just look at any past event with large crowds of pissed off citizens looking to flex their freedom. remember..they will kill you and your children
@@keithtower4748 Kids.. I don't think so.
@@jesusbustamante4172 even you are someone's child
Jesus Bustamante 🤔 you don’t think they’ll kill you? A National Guardsman just shot and killed an unarmed business owner during the protests. He paid to have himself killed.
This is still amazing in Aug of 2019. What worries me is how many of them are now or will be hired by some police force and showing this arrogance and trying to control citizens.
Still amazing in September 2019 too...
Absolutely great point
Marita Gladson still amazed in June 2020
Daniel Celli slightly more concerning in June 2020 considering national guard troops were just in our cities shooting/killing unarmed/respected business owners.
Ditto June 2021
hell they didnt have anything important to do either.
power trippin.
A LEGAL, CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED ACTIVITY, CANNOT BE DEEMED SUSPICIOUS!!!! /drop mic
So, coming from my perspective, and experience.
9/10 MP response is as strong as it is when someone is recording because they could be working with Foreign Militaries to gather information about our procedures and security levels.
@@agamnon2619 I understand your point and vehemently disagree. I spent nearly a decade in Military Intelligence (MI). I spent my entire military career, even on deployments, on Air Force and Army installations with SCIFs (secret compartmented information facility), aside from going outside the wire. 90% of my MI company held TS clearances. We had MPs headquartered at our base in Europe. Almost all of my Battalion held secret clearances. I took an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, both foreign and domestic. The only enemies are those who would wear a uniform and attempt to violate the freedom and rights of the PEOPLE. Those who trade their freedoms and constitutional rights for security deserve neither.
I sincerely hope you will reconsider your opinion on the matter.
I'm going to arrest you because I don't know the law and I'm not the court
Cop logic. Fortunately somebody higher up was smarter.
jeff MacDonald if you can name every single law from memory in a fucking bible sized book of codes, then you can talk about "because I don't know the laws"
^copper here
Ryan W
then look it up
you falsely arrest someone you should pay the price from YOUR wallet not ours.morons
Ryan W Also buddy they are required to cite the penal code, Courts and lawyers are to determine guilt.
I’m stationed in Fort Hood, MPs are something else
Frfr I was too those mfs dumb af
There needs to be signs inside fences and gates *"NO TRESSPASSING BEYOND THIS POINT WHILE ON DUTY"*
Its almost as if there is. Since this isnt a main gate, theres no signs. But theres a sign thats just a blank white sign that marks the boundary for MP/County.
This looks to be an impromptu gate, probably because another nearby gate is being worked on, and with how close it looks to be, and I could be wrong since its a video, but I think their jurisdiciton extends to the road, and probably over to the Exchange Gas Station. Not sure where it would extend to on the other side.
So disappointing to see SOLDIERS not respecting the civil rights of Americans that they swore an oath to defend.
Gosh, that was painful to watch. You certainly proved the point but I think a repeat visit is in order. SCAT team with a 1st and 2nd combination audit may be just the thing.
soaringtractor Whoa whoa whoa grunts have honor, these guys don't have an ounce of honor in their souls. Please don't confuse the two.
Glad you learned your lesson about trying to explain yourself to idiots. Silent treatment or the basics. No more Mr. Reasonable.
Can't you just smell the BS warfting from thes MP's mouths
as a guess these GIMP'S
DEFINITELY DID NOT GET THE MEMO ABOUT THE
PHOTOGRAPHY LAWS FROM THE SUPREME COURT SAYING THAT PHOTOGRAPHY CANNOT BE CLASSED HAS A CRIME 😠🤡🤡🤡
I know this is a old video but damn it is such a good 1 and those soldier boys were all punks. I have no idea how you stay so calm when dealing with BLUE ISIS
don't disrespect my authoritah!!!
Love what you do brother, although I am very saddened that you find yourself up against mindless morons who are itching to either beat you up or throw you in a cage, these public officials are paid by the public (you) to protect the public (you), what a joke. very sick state of affairs. 3:05 Sheriff says he hopes he can force you to ID, if so you going to jail, POS. :(
God bless you Battousai, you are the only American hero on this video. The guys who got your phone were good Samaritans, the rest of the bunch.... Garbage
Got to be honest with you. This is my first time seeing you. I subscribed in the beginning of the vid. When they started bullying you and you didn't respond, I unsubscribed. Then you stood up and told them they can't kick you off of public property and guess what, yeah, you got a new sub bro. Good work. Btw, that was pretty cool that you got your phone back and it still works
Good advertisement for the phone.
Get over yourself. Nobody cares if you subbed or unsubbed. You’re not that special. 🙄
the sign says Liberty Village but they don't believe in your liberty
Thank You Battousia 👌
The sad part of all this is. These horse's asses are the future state troopers and other lines of police officers. smh
Thanks for doing this work, Sir. I think you are doing a great service for us. They are the ones wasting resources, not you!
Military math. You add up all IQ's of soldiers, and the more there are, the lower the IQ's.
That’s why they’re in the military, that was the only choice.
And these guys call Marines stupid!
You need to contact the commanding General of the post and show him this video so he can teach his troops the legal and proper way to interact with the public.
12:40 " ... he was raised not to respect authority..."
Might be a different result if the MP wasn't trying to exert an authority he does not have on what is obviously non federal public property.
I'm going to do a 1st A A in a couple of weeks where I used to live as soon as I get some documents I need from a friend of mine that is a lawyer. Watching this only drives home the point that people not only don't know the law and rights under the law they don't even know the scope of their own authority. You most definitely need to pay them another vist and don't go alone this time the more cameras the better.
Omg soooo ridiculous them dudes are acting...specially on county property where they have no power
It's so funny because they're the story
you are legally detained until I figure out if you committed an offense....does anyone else see something wrong here?
minibicpride means cops are not well trained law wise jajaja
It's like that with the military. Your guilty until your proven innocent. Due to the past, we don't want to repeat
Yeah legally he is detained cz it is a offense and they have it posted on acp now that can't be recording
The only dumb one here I'd guy filming and that's jz disrespectful
Do like everybody else get you pass come on and do what ya need do don't be making stupid controversy over nothing
This is not really the same thing. Basically this becomes a security issue. This guy could be filming security procedures with the intent to plan an attack or something. Remember that the folks at hood have had some serious incidents I recent memory. Filming an ECP is a federal offense.
@@satanpuncher06 finally someone who has a brain...
That's the longest Samsung commercial I've ever seen.
agb1953 and Sony lol
The funny thing is they're on public property and their first general order says not to abandon their post which is that facility inside the gates
How long has the military police become the Easement police for public property???
I’ll leave when I’m ready to leave
these soldiers have no authority to do what they are doing. lawsuit city!
Richard Rice your an idiot just like the dumbass filming
RICARDO DEL POZO I’ve watched Turner for sometime, he’s very well informed regarding the boundaries of his right to recorded. He doesn’t look for trouble.
and again they have NO authority off the base. why in the hell do they keep coming off base?
Because like most regular cops in a situation where they have no power they will attempt to intimidate you away
we have a jurisdiction line, and from my prior MP time, I can make an assumption that they were allowed to have Jurisdiction out to the road. and MAYBE 50-75 FT in each direction of the enterance, maybe 100ft.
I will say you are one of the best spoken and nicest gentleman doing audits. You are doing it right!!!!
The goons that swore an oath are harrassing the guy excersizing his rights, asking him if he has nothing better to do?
The police determined that no law was being broken and they're still bothering you. Unreal.
That deputy is earning the hate. He just makes my blood boil. I would FOIA his records, I guarantee he's run someone in on contempt of cop.
this is our government
It is sad. That there's that many MP's and police officers so poorly informed of the law is just sad.
Gilbert Grape Why do you care? Go back to playing Mindcraft
soaringtractor I don't care about our Government ? I'm prior-service, I know all about this Government.
All that fire, piss and vinegar, and complaining how they couldn't leave til you left....and they left without getting their way. Probably still don't comprehend how ridiculous they come off for trying to enforce their regulations on a civilian , on public property, who isn't breaking the law. That shot of Kirk 15:31 turning back around to glare like a petulant child is priceless. I used to live in Central Texas. They think the base extends to the county line.
"You have to respect my Authority"... LMAO These guys.
Silent treatment would have been epic here
Nick Courtney They would have just killed him and nothing would be done about it.
Nick Courtney he's black.
Best line in the story “Eerrk my nerves” lol.
GOLLY...even this COP doesn't know the law. What they heck do they study in police academy? How to find the nearest donut shop? God! If he arrests you, you get to sue the city...and make thousands...go for it.
I'm an MP myself. Those MPs were just doing their jobs. It's so easy to say for those people who are trolling and not in the military to say police men or us military service members don't know shit about the federal government law and state government law to do our part or at least to serve our time we've given for y'all. Did they abuse their authority ? No. Did they ask you to do something more than once ? yes even POLITELY, but you have every right to ask military members question about State property vs. Federal Property. This man whos been recording and being cynical to prove a point. Please don't record MPs in the field or on base. Keep your phone's to a minimum of military police exposure to social media. It may be part of an ongoing investigation. For your convenience.
Honorable Style you guys are the laughing stalk of the military bro
You dont need to explain yourself to them. Just keep recording.
I must admit if this were me and i encountered these guys acting this way it would have went much different, i commend you on staying so calm and cool during all of this, its really ridiculous that this is what our military has become, i guess these days they are so desperate for anyone who is willing to violate american rights that they will enlist anyone.
WHO IN THE WORLD DID YOU CALL TO GET SOMEONE TO COME OUT TO GET YOUR PHONE OUT OF THE SEWER?
AZ DONALD probably public works or somthing like that.
i'd of NEVER have thought of that.
Public servants who actually served the public.
You aren't going to get me with that one, *+Never*.
It ain't April fools day, LOL.
Matt a long ass rope with a big ass piece of chewed gum at the end
Hahahaha.
When you tell him you will point it to the ground you can tell that he knows he has no ground to stand on and just slowly turns away.
I love it when he tells you to turn your go-pro off and put it in your pocket. LOL. It's amazing how much power these people think they have.
WOW. Even at the 8.27 mark after the cop said all is good they still want to come and tell you to turn your camera off.
Just for that I would ramp uptake filming. LOL.
How dumb are these MP's. LOL.
Theyll make perfect cops
Just putting in time like a jail sentence.
It amazes me on how stupid the army has gotten , and it scares me to know that they are the ones protecting our constitutional rights.
I like the way you intelligently dealt with those MPs at the end of this video, you really made them look like idiots...simply masterful! Even though that deputy's attitude wasn't that bad (imo), he still unlawfully detained you and threatened to falsely arrest you for "Failure To ID". I don't know what it is with some cops that think they can just run up on you and demand that you assist them in violating your 4th amendment right. Even though he didn't try to press you for ID, these Texas cops should know by now that TX is not a "Stop and Identify" state and they can't just lock somebody up simply for not identifying themselves (Brown v. Texas 1979, Dutton v. Hayes-Pupko 2008). Glad you got your phone back, glad it still worked. Be safe bruh!
"i hope that i can legally make you show me your id so that i can place you under arrest"
"Liberty Village" sign in background is ironic to the questions asked.
Great use of questions by you. You are a gifted auditor Thank you.
This is very postive in the auditing of Policy enforcers. County PD was actually very educated
"What CRIME do you SUSPECT ME of COMMITTING?"
PLEASE don't ALLOW them to use the words "Suspicious Activity" OUT OF CONTEXT.
Hold them accountable (or educate them).
Keep up the good work.
You kicked a@# ! Thank you for all you do and all your videos.
Those last to Fool mp's are definitely the type to become LEO's after they get out and then the real harassment starts for them againsts civilians.
ask"is murder open to interpretation? Well it is if its done by a cop"
"Get a job". Lol. I guess Bubba forgot that he is on the government dole doing nothing as most gubment employees.
But there are so many on-base emergencies! That's why they could only spare 10 military police to talk to Battman.
Yes there's a lot of rapes on the bases that they have to not investigate and cover up
monkeybutttt1 or that journalism is a job
Good job on not standing down to them punks!
“How am I causing you “problems” by obeying the law?”
Tell those doofuses to BEAT IT. They’re pissed because they had to leave their post and give up goof off time.
Batman, good to see you traveling to Russia to do audits now. Glad I live in America where the military fights for my freedom.
Onus News Service you made no fuck sense.
I made yes fuck sense.
+John C You obviously can't detect sarcasm, same with your alt account.
Onus News Service finally someone here who isn't a terrorist
***** I love his sarcasm.
AR 190-11 Chapter 4-15 Restricted Area designation
part (a) spells out that the facility commander's authority for enforcing the "Restricted Area" is, "derived from Title 50 United States Code section 797 (50 USC 797) (Internal Security Act 1950), implemented by DODI 5200.08 and DOD 5200.8-R".
(NOTE: AR 190-11 Chapter 4-15 part (a) can be found at
docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=dXNhcm15anJvdGMuY29tfGpyb3RjLXN1cHBseXxneDo1YmRkMDA1MzRiZmFmNWQ2 )
I'm not going to look up Title 50 United States Code section 797 (50 USC 797) for you. You are on your own to do that - and, to decide whether it applies to (a) what you are doing, and, (b) the facility you were at. Again, I haven't read (50 USC 797), so I don't know how/if it applies. It could be quite possible that it's a federal offense to photograph that facility from a mile away (even if you were on public property. You'd have to read/decipher the U.S. Code to determine that. You mentioned your "rights". As we all know, there are restrictions on some of them. It's the old "don't yell "FIRE" in a movie theater thing. Yeah, we can certainly do it, but, we can all be arrested for doing it. This "photographing a military facility might be one of those type of restrictions.
Good luck, Phillip. Oh, yeah, I had to laugh when the cop said, "It's my responsibility to determine whether or not I think an offense has occurred. If I believe an offense has occurred, and you fail to ID, I'm going to place you under arrest". Well, that'd work - IF he has "lawfully arrested you and requested the information" - but, not for failure to ID. I'm guessing that's why he told you that you were free to leave.
If they've got so many MP's that they can devote to you, why don't they have some of them pick up all the "shit" I see laying on the ground?
These MP's definitely need better training. I retired from Ft. Hood in 2009, (1st Cav), and most MP's are better behaved than that. Most MP's go through a "Homeland Security" training briefing as well and I think this buckethead crossed some of his policies. They DO have authority off post due to local SOFA policy and it also gives civilian police authority on post as well.
So it's ok for them to leave government property and their post with side arms? THATS A FKN NO
Liberty Village is off post military housing, so going in transit to and from is allowed. If I recall correctly, there is a buffer zone outside the gates that MPs have jurisdiction of, so they may be playing off of that. Not justifying what they did, please don't think I am.(Stationed on Fort Hood 2009-2017, NOT a MP)
3 soldiers, and not one brain among them. As a veteran, I'm embarrassed for them.
Legal code 148. G states; lawful activity can NEVER be deem suspicious.
I went and looked it up.. LOL here it is..
(g) The fact that a person takes a photograph or makes an audio or video recording of a public officer or peace officer, while the officer is in a public place or the person taking the photograph or making the recording is in a place he or she has the right to be, does not constitute, in and of itself, a violation of subdivision (a), nor does it constitute reasonable suspicion to detain the person or probable cause to arrest the person.
Thats California law
148g only applies in California and this guy is in Texas.
Jack Garand state laws do not travel across state lines, that’s a California law
I am starting to lose respect for the military as much as the police officers. Defend the constitution MORONS! Dumb as dirt...smh
***** Fuck off
***** I love when idiots like you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber...LOL
+jacksprat418, Dude, READ THE FUCKING SIGN! The Restricted Area sign clearly states that photography of the facilities is prohibited without specific permission from the commander. "The facilities" includes the gate and the entire fence line. This jackass was violating federal law. It doesn't matter where he was filming from.
Joe Walsh Dude...READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION. A sign, that refers to filming INSIDE the base to begin with, CAN NOT override our rights.
Joe Walsh Right, dumbfuck. The constitution is nothing but toilet paper...Fuck off you fake patriot!
At the very least, I'll give that Deputy props, for being taking the position that, "I'm not sure if you're committing an offense or not...let me look it up the law along with the accepted interpretation of it. That's pretty a pretty professional approach. But those military guys can eat my shorts. YOU are not wasting their time...THEY are wasting their time.
That is extremely sad and very pathetic when the military doesn't like the first amendment freedoms of photographers 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Seems like everyone with a uniform Is an expert in law
You were making too much sense, and it's clearly pissing them off.
It's laughable.
I don’t think I’ve shared this, but I’m retired Army. These ass clowns. I don’t fund government activities so their agents can come to me supposedly operating in an official capacity to cast disparaging comments and presume that I should get their approval on what I choose to do with my time. The base commander is quite aware of what your rights are, I’m sure. The fact that they are investigating your activity, I commend those soldiers. Obviously, they were no longer alarmed at what you were doing as far as a security threat, so then they decided to share their personal contempt for you and your actions while acting in an official capacity. I guarantee that if you ask to speak to the base commander, or even the company commander of those troops, he/she will go up one side and down the other. I highly recommend you do so. If they behave like that with no consequences, they will be of the opinion that they where right. Nothing will change and when someone else who is not as level headed as you are escalates it to a physical confrontation, someone gets hurt. It is regardless who gets hurt, the point is that if the training is there, the threat of violent confrontations diminishes, which should be the best overall outcome of each encounter. Make sense?
Smartest comment on here. 🏆
Officer first you have to arrest him for a crime before you can arrest him for obstructing. No crime no obstructing no crime no resisting.