THIS is the Best Stadium District that I've Ever Built! | Verde Beach 107
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- THIS is the Best Stadium District that I've Ever Built! | Verde Beach 107
Hello everyone and welcome back to Verde Beach! In this episode, Sheila Johnson and her consortium of power players ARE bringing professional sports to Verde Beach, with the help of just a little bit of public funding... In this episode, we'll build the stadium, a pedestrian entertainment district, and a train connection to make this a truly unique area in the City. We'll also address a couple of comments from the previous episode that'll take the rail and Myrtle Park up to the next level. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
Introduction - 0:00
Site Prep, the Stadium, Premium Parking, and Transit - 1:00
Stadium Entertainment District - 9:01
All Aboard! - 18:30
Meteor Park, Car Park - 27:09
HUGE pedestrian Bridge - 30:45
Quays - 35:08
Bike Facilities - 39:30
Landscaping Simulator 2228 - 43:40
City Tour - 48:32
Odds and Ends - 49:21 - Hry
For the stadium name it “The Crater”, the home stadium of the “Verde Beach Meteorites”
The Crater! Such a great idea with the meteorite attraction 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Oh damn I didnt look at the comments and commented this exact same comment
Perfect suggestion! And I'd say that the benches should be green, for the Verde Beach team.
Nice name for the stadium but the name of the team sounds more like a basketball team. Most football/soccer teams just have the name of the city and then ‘FC’ or ‘Sporting’ or something like that before it. So ‘Verde Beach FC’ would be a good name but maybe ‘The Meteorites’ would be a good nickname as most football/soccer teams have a nickname
The Crater Bowl
I think you should include the last stop before the stadium in the stadium line. That way the blue line serves as a collector and people don't have to go all the way into the central city just to go to the stadium.
Would significantly benefit the transit system.
Agree with this! At Wembley Park (nearest station to Wembley Stadium in London) there are two underground lines that both travel through Baker Street. The Jubilee line has 8 stops between the two, Metropolitan line only has 2.
Having an option like you suggest would greatly benefit passengers looking to travel both a short and longer distances.
Edit - Johannes has a great comment below about how rail transit should operate at the Stadium! Definitely worth an upvote!
Reasonably you should have the direct shuttle service to the city center running only on match days and then another service stopping at all stations on the way into the city which allows to serve the stadium parking lot as a park&ride whenever there's no match on, that way it also serves as a transit connection for the suburban hellscape that is to be developed around the stadium :)
@@johannesgutsmiedl366 bro awesome idea, I was thinking something similar. Best way for the city to get the most out of that investment.
Agreed! I was gonna suggest the same thing!
This would be great and would make it much easier to get from Sterling Estates to the stadium
I think this may just be your finest creation to date! The only thing that is sorely missing, is a path between the beautiful (and walkable) European bridge and the new district. There were so many people trying to walk to the stadium when you converted that last bit of street into a highway... But besides that, it all looks amazing!
You could connect the eurobridge right to the seawall with a path to spur usage
Thank you! Oh shoot - I will absolutely get that fixed!!
Edit: made an additional comment (#10 reply below) which is beneficial for additional context.
Recently went to Wembley Stadium in the UK which this stadium looks like. At Wembley the train station & stadium are the furthest facilities apart in terms of distance. All of the shops, hotels & food/drinks places are dotted along 'Olympic Way' (between Wembley Park Station & Wembley Stadium) which directs foot traffic mostly in one direction (towards the stadium before the game, then in reverse after).
Another example would be the London Stadium (host of London 2012 Olympics), most rail passengers get off at Stratford Station & walk through Westfield Shopping Centre as the most convenient direction of travel before arriving at the stadium.
At the moment rail passengers in Verde Beach can enter the stadium without interacting with any of the leisure district. This is the same with car passengers. Both sets of footfall would have to walk past the stadium to enter the leisure district which creates less synergy in directions of travel in the hours before the game (people walking towards leisure district at the same time as some leaving the leisure district).
Businesses here would want the maximum exposure before and after the game and foot traffic that has to walk past these businesses ensures this would happen. At the moment they are missing out on a lot of matchday trade.
Would this stadium benefit with the leisure district between the train station & stadium? Swapping the leisure district & stadium would ensure rail & car attendees walk in the same direction and not conflict with direction of travel.
Hope this makes sense!
I used to live very close to the Emirates Stadium (home of Arsenal) and it's exactly the same there. Three trains stations within walking distance, but all of them spread out enough from the stadium itself that you are more or less forced to go through the shops to get to it. It's also a super residential area, as is Stratford where London Stadium is, and a lot of people will pay a premium to live in very close proximity to the stadium if there are a big supporter of the team.
@@joe_stone Emirates is a great example, possibly one of the first big stadiums in the UK that was designed with Station -> Shops -> Stadium in mind. It's a mutually beneficial relationship with the local economy.
Did you go on matchdays or change your travel habits if you didn't?
Gutted to find out recently Piebury Corner closed! Only been to Arsenal a couple of times but enjoyed going there beforehand!
It's missing the floating arch but funnily enough the old Wembley with the twin towers, the one they tore down, was the asset before the one he settled on.
This is a really good point. I think he was mostly mimicking the Deer District in Milwaukee at the Fiserv Forum. Its the same concept, just on a much smaller and tighter scale
@@jordanking3863 Thank you for this example & your response! I see the similarities, especially the pedestrianised areas nearby & it is great to see a much more recent stadium inside an American city.
I don't know which direction the majority of people in the City travel towards the Fiserv Forum but anyone coming over the river will likely encounter the Deer District, it is ideally placed for this!
For the record the leisure district looks gorgeous and is one of the best looking areas of Verde Beach with the new DLC assets. It is an amazing addition to VB! Thank you again
One possible solution for the bike infrastructure could be to go UNDER the train and bridge along the river. That type of thing is often done (riverwalk paths etc). Would be a great stretch of biking along the river.
especially considering a spiral like that is incredibly unsafe, especially at night.
I thought the same thing... Tunnel under all those tracks with the bike path.
or just remove the bike spiral and connect the elevated bike part directly to the elevated pesdestrian path, more fluid. bikers wouldnt need to go down to the parking, but if they want to, they can use the pedestrian spiral
Phil has mentioned in other builds he thinks underground tunnels are a crime danger... In this case, I think the issue is the slope of the hill would make it impractical
That's a really, REALLY good idea!
Upgrade the road from the bridge to the stadium back to a regular road as now people cannot walk/bike over to the stadium from the other side of the river which people were doing before it was upgraded to a highway road.
Yeah, or provide a pedestrian path to cut the corner, but since you've got the junction right there *anyway*...
@@foamyesque I only suggested upgrading the road because I dont know if paths can connect to a bridge like that but I could be wrong, and upgrading the road would probably be cheaper then building the more direct path
Instead, connect the eurobridge right to the seawall with a path to spur usage
you can see like 20 people turn around as soon as he upgrades it. Definitely agree.
@@FinalThunder228 I think we might be able to add a side path.. that'll be my first option, but will upgrade to a road if that doesn't work!
Hey Phil! I love your videos! I have a suggestion for CWC or VB: I think you should have a very upscale neighborhood with tree lined streets and all large ploppable houses with pools and lots of amenities like community centers, etc. I think it would be a cool addition to see where the richest people of Superior live. Have a nice day!
Love this idea, I live in a community exactly like what you're describing and would love to see it happen in the game, a gated community with gyms and clubhouse etc.
@@heatonhaus3073 ridiculous request. Besides, there's already a gated community in VB.
@@Christopher_D_Morgan quite aggressive dear
@@heatonhaus3073 Eat the rich.
@@Christopher_D_Morgan I am just suggesting that a neighborhood like my own would be cool to see...it's just a game. It seems like you've got strong feelings about that type of neighborhood, which is fine. Keep in mind not everyone who lives comfortably are the same, I pride myself on helping friends and loved ones, donating time, donating money, and creating positivity in this world that can be so negative.
It's just a suggestion, for a game, on the internet & none of it matters.
Why not run the bike facility along water and under existing bridges? This is a pretty common way to build trails/bike facilities along waterfronts. You can also face the stadium toward the train station. Couple minor suggestions, I absolutely love this build, the mix of uses and the landscaping.
Hey Phil! I think that pedestrian bridge between the two parking lots would make more sense as a tunnel… imagine coming up the tunnel with the stadium centered in you line of site… also keeps the crowd out of site of the traffic.
8:30 Yes, here in germany, Football is actually very cheap to watch (Stuttgart ticket prices 30-38 Euros). But the organizers make loads and loads of money because so many people go and watch every single game in those giant stadiums with around 50.000 seats.
Name for the sports complex: Riverside Stadium or Bluewater sports complex.
German clubs are, with a couple of terrible exceptions, owned by their members. American sports teams are very much for-profit companies. They typically don't even have much of a connection to their local area.
Man, we could really take a page out of your book. Because of the prices, I only get to a game every other year or so. Just spirals out of control with prices. Parking alone is $30-40 and you have to drive because of inadequate transit service. The ticket to the game... way more than that!
I suppose capacity may have a lot to do with that. For basketball, we're at a fraction of that. For football, it's more than that, but many fewer games.
@@OLBastholm the Packers are community owned, but still charge a ton to pay for upgrades, salaries, and just to make money. You aren't safe from high prices anywhere here - ha!
@@CityPlannerPlays Didn't know it was that extreme. But how much do you guys pay for the tickets alone?
You should add a crossing in front of the stadium (or even 2 so that the converted roads are symmetrical). Also, the median between parking lots should have young lindens :)
Great video as usual! You should have the bike path bridge between both spirals to give users opportunity to skip going down a spiral just to go back up right after.
Yeah, absolutely.
He creates a major artery for inter-district travel, but then forces everyone to use two spirals and a cross work.
Any city planer proposing something similar *for cars* would immediately be fired. (Like making a 500 meter stretch of highway into a dirt road because the expenses for "a bridge over a train track would be too expensive", so a crossing without railroad barriers can be build.)
It's a shame that every mode of transport besides cars is still added as an afterthought. Even his high-speed train tracks follow the contour of the highway ramps.
Great idea!
I'm a former locomotive engineer. I'm far from being any sort of expert on track layout, but I can tell you that a switch on a bridge over a running body of water would be absolutely terrifying to me if I had to get out and switch it manually, haha.
haha, great point!! Where do you think a more appropriate place would be? near the station in myrtle park and having double track until then?
@@CityPlannerPlays Double track sounds safer to me
I love this series ! and very rarely disagree with anything CPP designs however I do think that heavy landscaping around the stadium is a little much and not very nice to look at- makes it feel like an airport to me. I'm definitely not saying change it but maybe going forward try experiment with more unique and subtle ways to landscape. I like the name for it 'Riverside Park' or maybe just something like 'The Bay'
I agree. the stadium is beautiful enough and the trees block it
I bow down in respect for your master level planning skills and patience when it comes to building infrastructure!
@@CityPlannerPlays Hahaha
I feel as of late we just don't see Clearwater County that much. That one is my favorite.
I feel like changing the station at Myrtle Park to a bypass station would be a good idea since there is now a train line that bypasses the station. Otherwise the stadium line will always have to wait for blue line trains at that station.
Happy to see VB growing again! Can't wait to see where the quest to fit those last few unique assets in takes us!
biking is great. I used to drive the 15 km from bochum to the stadium in gelsenkirchen by bike. Always a amazing tour. The Stadium could be named Bannhammer Stadium named after the Bannhammer Bank in City Skylines ;D
Great video! I love the meteor as a mascot and I think the team should be called the Verde Beach Comets ☄️
I’d like to see more fences and guardrails on properties and roads edging up to cliffs and water sources. Sometimes they look minor but compared to the sims, they look pretty deadly haha. Like looking at piers and harbours from water level, they are so high!
I’m always amazed at what you achieve in vanilla. I find myself shouting at the screen, “Just turn anarchy on!”
Great work. I really like the train lines.
As a Philip(With one 'L') I greatly appreciate the diss of Phillip(With two 'L's) at 24:28
What is great about this channel it comes with story time. These creators all have a unique way of content with this one with the back story, biffa with traffic control, and few candy with her decorations of areas.
It would be cool to see a racetrack! A road course like Road America. Loving the series 😊
I make this comment every once and a while hoping he'll do one. They're hard to do in Vanilla though cause the assets available don't really lend itself to the look needed. I attempted one in one of my builds and ended up making it a park and calling it a historic race track that people can drive on kind of like the Nürburgring Nordschleife.
@@Godisangry I see them and I've been playing around. It's likely a CWC build, not a VB build. Your points about doing this in vanilla are what I'm running into. Even having find it would be helpful, tbh.
@@CityPlannerPlays Definitely not a VB build unless you go for the old racetrack turned into park approach I took. I only just started messing around with mods a few weeks ago so I haven't tried the racetrack yet cause i'm still trying to get a handle on how a lot of these work. Much love from a fellow Phil, except i've got 2 L's
I dont know if you have it somewhere else in the city but the arena area is a great place for the festival area from the concert DLC. Noise wont be a problem and plenty of transport and parking for tourists
Ye there is one by fireman's Park
Since the beginning of the series, the city has grown so much that it's actually the Verde Beach Metropolitan Area now. Love it!!! ❤❤❤
As a landscape architecture student, I really love your landscapes, its really blend well with the buildings, roads and pathways. And I think landscape is really matter in the process as it can create a sense of place there😁.
I just wanted to say, after having a stressful day at work, I LOVE LOVE LOVE just coming home and watching your City Skyline videos. It's very calming.
Thank you and glad I could provide some chill content
This build is so good I hope it never ends
You read my mind when you put in that pedestrian area. I love how connected it is. Looks great!
I just want to thank you for your use of jacarandas in your landscaping. I live in southeast Queensland, Australia and it’s spring right now and all the jacarandas are in flower - it’s my favourite time of year. They’re a very popular ornamental here. I recently moved to a rural property and have a jacaranda-lined driveway and I love it.
Maybe you should add a footpath connection from the pier to the european bridge, so people can use the bridge to go to the stadium by foot! :)
“I don’t like that Phillip. We’re gonna leave” had me rolling. Didn’t expect that 😅
The older bridge was so beautiful! You should mulligan it and the train would only move slowly over the river
Hey City Planner Plays. Not sure if youre still reading comments on episodes this old but I thought it was high time I commented. My first delve into city skylines vids after buying the game on PS4 was our friend Biffa, and after a few episodes of New Tealand and his regular reference to your good self when placing water pipes right under the road where they belong, this stadium complex phase was the first video I watched of yours. I have since watched all of Clearwater County and have now gone full circle on Verde Beach. A lot of footage and a lot of waterpipes! I love your videos and I'm really glad I found your channel thanks to Biffa. Your passion for the cities you build is inspiring and watching both CC and VB from from the start has been an absolute pleasure and privilege. I've taken on board lots of tips and tricks and implemented them into my own cities and just wanted to thank you and applaud you on your fine fine builds. I'm subscribed but haven't commented on individual episodes so just thought I should write something of note, just to thank you for the many hours of entertainment you have and will continue to provide me with! I look forward to more of verde beach in the future. Very cool indeed! 👍👍👍
Wonderful video as always Phil. Maybe a good idea to put a little footpath in from your European bridge to your stadium road or even to your quay wall. As this will let football fans a chance not just to bike, take a train or drive to a match but also to walk over that Fabulous bridge too a game.
This might be my favorite episode ever for anything in this game. This was awesome!!
29:17 you should put sidewalks on that section of road next to the bridge so people can walk across the bridge to the stadium.
I love hearing you think through the layout, very interesting
Earliest I've ever been. Love your vids man!
29:00 I know you really like your big, level, open parking lots, but stadiums *also* often have large garage facilities nearby for event parking especially in cramped locations next to interchanges. Some of the functional parking garage assets in the workshop would look much better and equally realistic in this type of location imho
Night and day difference from pre-post adding trees and flowers and such. Bravo it looks so coT DANG GOOD
Been watching for a long time now, and this is absolutely my favorite build you've ever done. For a vanilla build it is absolutely stunning.
I generally prefer modded builds, but the way you handled the interchange and railroads, the pedestrian and bike paths and the whole stadium/pedestrian district layout really demonstrates how much you have improved since you began.
And I for one appreciate when you go off on some detailing.
Just a really great last few episodes, so Tha k you for sharing.
Oh almighty algorithm bless this video
"Unreasonable and unrealistic pedestrian bridges." Have you seen the pedestrian bridges in Hong Kong? If anything, more cities should have that kind of facilities, separating traffic from people, giving them shade, connecting points of interest, and giving a nice view.
Meteor Park for the whole place or the Meteors as a name for the team would be cool ig
"The Green Meteors"
Hey Phil! What about pulling the landscape out into the water under the train tracks and bridge and making the bike path go along the waterfront. With landscaping it would make for a great facility.
I was looking for this comment. It Removes the extra bridge too.
Day 1 of asking Phil to name a town. Hello Phil. Suggestion for Nicolet Bay. Name a big city (The Capitol or something) De Gaulle. The name matches the French theme and is named after a famous general and president for France during and after ww2, his name was Charles De Gaulle.
Michigan's French Heritage is more 18th century and less 20th century, FWIW.
about the bike connection to the stadium: you could tunnel a bike path to the back of the back of the parking lot
(still 7min in, disregard if the connection is made later)
That is the 4th video I am watching in order to learn some details about the game an I will be honest, your laugh makes me feel your passion. Lovely, kudos to you and to the team
Loved this episode, the little stadium district is so pretty, to me it's very satisfying that you're able to do all of this in the vanilla game. The Verde Beach series is my favorite, seeing that it has passed 100 episodes already reminds me that it will not last forever :( really hope that in the future you make another 100% vanilla city series after Verde Beach ends. I find it much more enjoyable the vanilla cities because I can see the city evolving in a way I can understand better and feel like I could "do" the same (not dismissing the amount of skill needed obviously) even though I use some mods myself in the game.
Love how much thought goes into these vids!
I'm so glad you started doing this bc I'm in the middle of putting on in my main city too lol this will give me more inspo!
Been looking forward to this one since you ploted these districts a couple weeks ago!
Yo brother. Love your videos. It’s my main go-to when I just want to watch something chill while I work/eat/nap/am bored. Keep up the good work!
Great Build my friend, been watching the series since the start and have been loving it! Keep it up!
Have you used the boat museum yet? If not it could add to the stadium area as a tourist area. Also if you're going for a more urban renewal feel there are some loft warehouse buildings on the workshop that have both residential and commercial use that you could add that gives that type of feel to it.
It's been used in the world's fair
@Rik Span that's right he did I forgot about when he added the World's fair. I think there is a real opportunity to add some sort of tourist attraction by the waters edge. I know there is a tall ship prop in the workshop or maybe the pier marketplace
I can't believe I'm sitting and watching these videos for hours. Really good stuff.
Looooved this build! Great looking stadium district!!!
good call on the sandstone, i really think it adds to the whole place
Hey Phil! Absolutely love your videos and you inspire me to think more about how I build my cities! I love your content and always love watching! Have a fantastic day!!! 😁
Thank you! Hope you have a great day, too!
I have always wanted to create a stadium district, now I know how to properly construct one, 😊
Love the -vert ramp- bike connection into the stadium!
between the service interchange and the stadium district as a whole, I'm kind obsessed especially for how realistic it is
Love all the detail, the new walkable key walls, and high speed rail! I'd love to see more of the new grasses instead of the weeds. They look awesome!
Tunnel under interchange to new neighborhoods and bike lines to railway station will be ideal for connectivity.
Love the videos as always Phil one of the best episodes in my opinion looking forward to the next
Really awesome build! I like how the landscaping turned out next to the highway. It reminds me of LA
as much as I dislike them in real life, unwalkable car centric dystopias are very fun to build and watch! keep it up!
Hey Phil, huge fan of this episode; I thought it was very tastefully done. I agree that at some point it will be nice to have bus service into the area as an extra way to get to the stadium. Looking forward to the remaining development phases to further bring this portion of the city to life.
Side note: If another pro franchise(s) comes to the city, I think a downtown arena redevelopment project may be in order. A lot of times this happens in older sections of inner cities/central business districts that maybe become abandoned. Possibly an area of DTVB that’s now 200+ yrs old would be a spot to look at in order to bring in pro basketball/hockey (or both), plus the venue could be used for major concerts as well. It would benefit from already existing transit services and help revitalize DTVB with a newer major attraction.
I found your comment about highway sound barriers very interesting, here in Poland they are literally all over the place, whether it's a highway or more local connection between some rural cities.
I think you should change the wide pedestrian road under the gate to be either bluestone or cobblestone, just so the change between the wide and normal road doesnt seem weird but as a simple change in the pavement. It wouldd also fit the sides of the gate.
This looks like it would be a genuinely fun place to hang out. Nice work!
Hey Phil! I finally caught back up to current day VB after taking some time off from your videos. I got back into your channel because I finally got the game on PC and the hours of content from you really came in handy as I've been building my first city. Much love to you, keep up the great work!
Beautifully built! So excited for the next phase!
This is such a gorgeous build! I love it!
Hey Phil!! Love the videos, I'm a newer CZcams fan and have been watching the old Verde Beach videos. Love the progression of the city.
This build is amazing Phil! I could watch your videos for hours if I had the time. Very relaxing :)
I LOVE VERDE BEACH! I'm all caught up now and i want more episodes. I like verde beach more than the others. You do an awesome job!
There is not much too do in this game but what’s fun for me is the creation and I get more joy watching other people come up with cool ideas and that’s what I like the most about a game like this. It’s not hard but let’s your creative mind shine
With the palm trees you need a road maintenance building to clean them up, especially after a storm. Lore reasons
Great build as always. This looks amazing!
yooo, thanks for that tip about changing roadway types to force place a crosswalk!
your attention to detail is crazy! the finished product looked amazing
Always look forward to your vids man! 😄
Hi CPP! Municipal employee here as well. I feel like any time I've seen districts like this with parking across the street it's always had a tunnel rather than a bridge. While typically tunnels aren't built this close to large bodies of water, I think you could make a case that with the huge quay wall being built there the city spent a decent amount of money to lower the water table in the area to support this construction.
Thank you Phil. Love that you are going to develop around the stadium and build something. I have been to some NFL stadium and hate how the majority is either really far from the center, doesn’t have any kind of commercial and bars around or both. It kills the vibe before and after the game, especially as I’m used to the pre and post game experience of soccer match in Brazil.
That’s something the teams, the NFL and developers should learn from MLB stadium that generally are in downtown.
🧐 my favorite emoji. Also started playing city sky lines because of your channel. Thank you
A couple of things would be good for the entrance to be facing the train station to make it easy for fans to get into off the train, the team should be called the Verde beach meteorites playing at crater stadium
Great vid! I'd suggest keeping the area near the side lot as a lawn as opposed to the weeds you have now - if you wanna keep it as a "tailgating" area, it'd make sense to give them the extra space if they need it.
Looks fantastic! I’m looking forward to the Verde Beach Meteors vs Colorado Rapids game next year. I’ll be there!
Awesome build, looks like somewhere I’d like to visit in real life.
I imagine a desire path would form between the road behind the stadium and the offshoot pedestrian road. People would be walking all over that grass.
Subaru Park for the Philadelphia Union is right on the river with a bridge in the background as well!
aw yeah. aw yeah this is a good one phil. i would however love to see some thought put towards wildlife "facilities" in this area, just to make sure they have the ability to get in and out of all that lovely landscaping
Love the build! The one thing I can see to improve it would be to exchange the locations of the stadium and the first parking area that you build. The reason being to create double-use parking for both the stadium when there's a game and the pedestrian area. It would just be more convenient for people coming there to park. I think it would be a slightly better fit for the parking area also which needed just a little more space.
Love the back stories! ❣
Always love your lore as much as your builds.
35:28 - This looks exactly like nashville (from the 1 time I've seen it)! I remember coming down broadway and standing on the keywall and looking across the water to the titans stadium. Crazy how its turned out so similar
i-10 industrial park would be great for entertainment extension and a smaller stadium. Maybe basketball with a train stop on the main high speed line