Asics Super Shoe Shootout:Metaspeeds Edge v Sky
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- In this video I test my 5 Asics Metaspeed Carbon Fibre Supershoes over 1km. With my thoughts on each shoe before the run, after the run, and after I analysed the data.
As always there are chapter markers down below so you can skip through to the parts you might be interested in.
Stryd Data Link: Metaspeed Shoe Tests
www.stryd.com/powercenter/run...
Asics Metaspeed Shoe Review Links
Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris: First Run Review
• Asics Metaspeed Edge ...
Asics Metaspeed Series. Stryd v. Cadence Running. Does the Idea Stack Up?
• Asics Metaspeed Series...
Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris: First Run Review
• Asics Metaspeed Sky Pa...
Asics Metaspeed Paris Sky + Edge: Why I chose the Sky
• Asics Metaspeed Paris ...
Asics Metaspeed Sky+: First Run Review
• Asics Metaspeed Sky+: ...
Asics Metaspeed Sky V Metaspeed Edge
• Asics Metaspeed Sky v....
Asics Metaspeed Sky
• Asics MetaspeedSky Fir...
TIMELINE
00:00 Introduction
00:14 Why I made this video
01:30 Pre Run Thoughts
02:34 Post Run Thoughts
04:35 The Running Plan
05:19 The Shoes
05:49 The Testing
06:30 Shoe Weight
07:27 Shoe Cost
07:41 Data Analysis
10:37 Intuitive Data
12:08 Conclusions
13:29 Wrap
SHOES:
Manufacturer: Asics
Model: Metaspeed Edge
Colour: Sunrise Red / White
Size: US 13/EUR 48/CM 30.5/UK12
Weight (as tested): 225.00g / 7.95oz (Left Shoe) 229.00g / 8.10oz (Right Shoe)
Midsole Drop: 8mm
Stack: 29- 21mm (M) 28-20mm (W)
Cost: €250.00 (Ireland) / $250.00 / £225.00
Purchased From: Asics
Location: Online
Date: 8 June 2021
www.asics.com
Manufacturer: Asics
Model: Metaspeed Sky
Colour: Sunrise Red / White
Size: US 13 / EUR 48 / CM 30.5 / UK12
Weight (as tested): 242.00g / 8.55oz (Left Shoe) 235.00g / 8.45oz (Right Shoe)
Midsole Drop: 5mm
Stack: 33-28mm
Cost: €250.00 (Ireland) / $250.00 / £225.00
Purchased From: Asics
Location: Online
Date: 6 April 2021
www.asics.com
Manufacturer: Asics
Model: Metaspeed Sky+
Colour: Velvet Pine/Safety Yellow
Size: US 13/EUR 48/CM 30.5/UK12/BR46/CN305(2.5)
Weight (as tested): 255.00g / 9.0oz (Left Shoe) 249.00g / 8.80oz (Right Shoe)
Midsole Drop: 5mm
Stack: 39-34mm
Cost: €250.00 (Ireland) / $250.00 / £225.00 /AU$330.00
Purchased From: Asics
Location: Online
Date: 22 June 2022
www.asics.com
Manufacturer: Asics
Model: Metaspeed Sky Paris
Colour: Sunrise Red/Black
Size: US 13/EUR 48/CM 30.5/UK12/BR46/CN305(2.5)
Weight (as tested): 233g/8.22oz (Left Shoe) 228g/8.04oz (Right Shoe)
Midsole Drop: 5mm
Stack: 39.5mm
Cost: €250.00/$250.00/£225.00?/AU$330.00
Purchased From: Asics
Location: Online
Date: 4 March 2024
www.asics.com
Manufacturer: Asics
Model: Metaspeed Edge Paris
Colour: Sunrise Red/Black
Size: US 13/EUR 48/CM 30.5/UK12/BR46/CN305(2.5)
Weight (as tested): 228g/8.04oz (Left Shoe) 228g/8.04oz (Right Shoe)
Stack: 39.5mm
Midsole Drop: 5mm
Cost: €250.00/$250.00/£220.00/AU$330.00
Purchased From: Asics
Location: Online
Date: 21 March 2024
www.asics.com
STUDIO TOP:
Manufacturer: Soar Running
Model: UTR Top
Colour: Navy Pink
Size: Medium
Weight (As Tested): 96g / 3.4oz
Cost: Ireland: €131.95 / $152.00 / £130.00
Purchased From: Soar Running
Location: Online
Date: 28 May 2021
www.soarrunning.com/
EQUIPMENT:
Video:
Canon EOS R5
Canon Lens RF 24-105mm F4-7.1 IS STM
iPhone 15 Pro Max
Studio Audio Recorder: Zoom F3 Field Recorder
Studio Microphone: Deity S-Mic 2S
Recorder:
Atomos Ninja V+ 8K RAW HDR monitor recorder
Editing:
Editing Software: Adobe Premiere Pro
SOUND:
All music from the CZcams Audio Library:
Intro and end music:
Goggles Extract Sound: Royale by Josh Lippi & The Overtimers
Goggles Identity by Unthink
Exterior Location: Dublin, Ireland
Details accurate as per day of posting
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Contact: oldman@oldmanrunner.com
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Another really informative and thoughtful video, OMR. I appreciate your efforts on behalf of all of us!
Thanks for the information. I always enjoy your videos even though I may not comment a lot of the times.
Glad you enjoy them, am in the middle of making another one, hopefully for early on Friday before I jump on the plane...
I have 75km in my Sky Paris and 72km in Edge Paris. Which one I prefer changes almost every day 😅 But I need to say that for me the Sky Paris feel more stable, I don’t feel the “wobbling” you feel. And for me Edge Paris feels significantly more soft than Sky Paris 😊 I do prefer the more controlled ride of Sky and the softness has a totally different feeling than the softness in Edge. It’s like you really can feel the plate having a lot of foam under it and I love that feeling. Still soft but super responsive. But with that being said, I can’t deny my test results, I’m constantly faster in Edge even though I try to find a way for Sky to be the best for me in every single test 😊
It's funny I have the exactly the same reaction in terms of preference varying between the two, and the opposite with regard to the feel of the shoe...
Yeah it’s always the way, you never know until you give them a good try, or even run a marathon in them🤷🏻♀️ and for a marathon it’s gonna be which feels best tired!! VERY interesting again Barry, great series!!! And for next Monday … GO GO GO !!!!!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
That is uppermost in my thoughts! Finished three identical days of Fartlek in the EP, SP and AF3. A few short tests in each then decision time. Will film tiny segment for video before I jet off tomorrow
Another great video Barry. I had looked at your raw Stryd data before and I think this is a good summary. These two shoes are indeed way too close so I guess the distinguishing factor is comfort and feel of stability. I think stability is an important aspect in a marathon shoe. I ran my last marathon in Adidas Prime X Strung OG. The (lack of) stability on the heel was a punishment for me in the last 5k. Good luck in Boston! Will you do a pre-Boston video?
I am literally just finishing the final edit. Will then try and upload it to CZcams for I think tonight at the usual time all things going okay with the computer...I started making it before Christmas and it is just under 55 minutes long....
Thanks for this video, Barry. I wasn’t planning to get either Paris. But after watching I ordered the Edge. The only SuperShoe that works for me - and works really well! - is the Vaporfly, the original being the best. But my 2018 Vaporflys are getting worn down. I have a half marathon road race in early May and will report back!
Great! Let me know how you find them. I’m in them for Monday. Love the lightness
@@OldManRunner have a peaceful day tomorrow and wish you a brilliant race.
Great analysis 🏅
Seems a bit like the debate with the vaporfly and alphafly... which appear to have comparable plate positions and shape .. Edge & Sky Paris
Down to personal preference.
Good luck for Boston 🍀
Yep. Decision made. Now for the day job...
Your videos has really nice structure, "why i made this video" really nice start.
Thanks! It's great to get the feedback
Great metaspeed comp video Barry! I'd say, given that it was just 1km reps that, the shoes performed very similarly - so similarly that you can't pick them apart on the data alone. I think the data would be within the likely error bands were you to do a true repeatability test (I'm not advocating you actually doing this!). My thoughts are that the Parises are likely to both be very good race shoes, and people should choose one over the other based on how they prefer their ride to feel rather than stride vs cadence.
Chris. I agree! I’m standing here in the Airport with my pair of Edge Paris’s in the bag. Simply because I like lightweight of both Paris shoes and the running feel in the Edge Paris.
Thanks. I bought the Edge loved it but somehow always nervous that Maybe I should have the sky. Seems like they are both great with really subtle differences. Also seems like you really need to try them on to see which you prefer. Their Cadence vs stride thing is not the least bit helpful.
You've summed it all up in a nutshell Alan!
Question Barry! When you qualified for Boston, were you 59 or 60 in that BQ race?
I hit 60 about a month before… I regularly get my age wrong in videos…I’m 61 now…I definitely targeted hitting the 60
Asics magic speed line are a beast ! Adidas adistar 3
Great video. Does the first sky version and the Edge Paris feel similar? The first Sky version was my favourite shoe but I hated the second version because it felt like my foot was hanging off the side as it rolled inwards. Not sure if this was caused by the plate position being changed but I would give the Edge Paris a go if it had a similar ride to the original Sky.
To be honest they are similar, but only in the way that all the series shoes are similar. The different stack height is immediately noticeable. I think the Paris series has definite improvements over the earlier Sky versions (the original Edge is quite a different shoe). I can run in all of them without difficulty but the Edge Paris is my pick of the bunch. I am a member of Asics OneAsics membership club. It's free and has benefits in that you get free returns and you can try a shoe for 90 days and then send it back if you are unhappy. You can always cancel the membership after that if you don't want the emails...worth a shot if you are uncertain.
My question is the importance of the overall feel throughout the duration of an entire marathon. We can endure a certain amount of discomfort during a 5 and 10k distance where a shoes performance is more critical, so the test would be conclusive if all shoes were tested under those circumstances please correct me if I’m off point here.
You are right. One of the difficulties is the limited data. It’s only me and I can’t run a marathon to test each one, though I did run 3 marathons in two of the shoes which gives me some idea. And a 10k race in another and lots of testing in all of them. But for sure I will only really find out about the Edge Paris or Sky Paris if I run a full marathon in them. And even then the marathon courses are usually different. So a lot is experience mixed with intuition. My hope is that it helps people make better choices overall in the shoes they chose to buy and run in. Even if they are different to the choices I might make.
I really like the magic speed 3 lately, which is a low plate. From what I can see, the edge paris is a mid plate, and Sky paris is a high plate. In nike, i like alphafly, which is a high plate, over vaporfly, low plate, strangely. When i tried the Edge and Sky paris at the store, i agree with you, that the edge felt more stable. I believe it is what felt great and edge paris felt good for me on that shoe plod but i am unsure over the distance or pace. Great review
I haven’t tried the Magic Speed 3. Have had my legs full with these! Ran 30km one day in the Edge Paris without difficulty… hope to do more soon…
I think it is more accurate to classify Sky Paris high plate positioning vs Edge as high to low plate positioning with the plate higher in the heel and digging lower in forefoot. Vaporfly is like Edge Paris. Alphafly is difficult comparison because of the pods altering the characteristics of the shoe. V1 was more like mid flat plate but its role was more about stabilizing element. In v2/v3 they increased the drop so the plate goes slightly higher in the heel.
Well I guess we will find out! All being well I will share the Stryd data Monday…
Good luck in Boston, any decisions on what members of the vast collection of shoes are travelling with you? 🙂
Would you believe I am heading out for my third day of an identical run in the AF3. Yesterday the Sky Paris and the day before the Edge Paris. Then it's decision time. They are all really good. I will have a look at the Stryd data afterwards, and do a few back to back short sprints in the street and then decide. My guess is it will be the Edge Paris in the hand luggage and a reserve in case I break it or something mad happens. Running a 5k on Saturday...so good to have a coupe of pairs...
Basically the more foam between your feet and the plate, the softer it feels. But it's less responsive
That’s how it feels to me in both these shoes. But others have had the same and opposite views as much as I can tell
@@OldManRunner Oh yeah I been reading reviews, it's so weird how people are feeling different softness
@@randenlewis152 I said in my initial video that I think ASICS will merge the two together in the next iteration… I still think that…
Great review, in you opinion someone who is a heel striker and tends to roll ankles a bit, which one would you prefer Paris Edge or Sky? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
If I heel strike and rolled I would not pick either. Certainly not for long distance. The heel is narrow. I would go for the Alphafly 3 if you could get a pair and handle the cost. They are much wider.They are available right now on Nike Europe in most sizes
You could also try the Hoka rocket x2.
Larger base on the heel and the foam although soft is stable “enough”.
@@faocisco I had a short run on a treadmill before the Rotterdam Marathon in the Rocket x2. Loved it! Hated the original
@@faocisco Thanks for the insight, appreciate the feedback. I was eyeing the Hoka Rocket x2 and the Adidas Adios Pro 3, the heel being a bit wide is something I enjoy and feel more stable in.
These plated shoes bother my achilles even the like the endorphin speed with a nylon plate not as bad, but I can still feel it on a real long run.
I’m going back-and-forth is it worth it? If I can get a great time you know don’t say qualified for Boston or something and then never use them again maybe for a race if I feel like it but as of now I’m just running I’ve got nothing in the training perspective I was just curious if anybody else has this issue it must change something in the gate and it bothers my right Achilles .
Todd. I wonder if the drop in the shoe is affecting the Achilles in any way. Going for a 10mm drop or a 0mm drop like in the Altra Vanish Carbon might be a very different experience.
@@OldManRunner thinking of trying the Altra..
no, I tested the endorphin pro two versus the new Balance rebel. I think version two also and they were faster but not much but that’s an old version of a carbon plate shoe so I might give another world this year. Try something else, but I tried alpha flies. I tried more or less almost one of the top ones last year from all the different brands that other people let me borrow to try out, and I got the same thing after about a 10 mile run , thanks for the reply appreciate it