Dave Feldberg Disc Golf Clinic - Biomechanics
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- World Champion Disc Golfer Dave Feldberg #12626 hosts an instructional clinic at Innova's 2011 United States Disc Golf Championships in Rock Hill, South Carolina. 10.5.2011
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Two things; first, this is infinitely more valuable than the best performing pros trying to explain how they do what they do to non-pros, many of them don't understand why they do what they do. Second, this is the best instructional form video available right now for disc golf that I have seen, and I've probably watched them all. Thanks for making this. It is much appreciated.
+Edward Jablonski Biomedical engineer here and i totally agree with your whole comment!
I completely agree! Such great content
Imagine if you had an Uncle Ken and Uncle Dave.....
thanks for all you have done for the sport fellas.
This video has aged so well. I like to come back to it after winter every year while trying to whip my form back into shape
His degree and research really show in this. He's very clear in his presentation and explanation. Thanks for this!
Dave's clinics are always awesome, so informative.
Thanks for this. Excellent clinic, as always, from Dave.
The holy grail of clinics right here
Thanks for the upload, much appreciated
Thanks for posting this video. You have been a huge help to my game.
This has helped me SO much!
And the biomechanical award of the year, goes to....
I need to see this live someday.
This is pure gold, thanks!
Can anyone point to the minute and second section where he shows what to do? I feel like he keeps showing the wrong way to throw and I’m having trouble ID-ing the right way
Imagine going to a park with your set of irons and people watching you chuck them across the field LOL
lol
While knee injuries are avoided in this technique, hip and lower spine injuries are where your body will break down if you don't focus on regular hip stretching, especially strengthening your non plant foot hip. And your L1-L5 discs if you're right handed. Special care to focus on your lower core muscles should be taken. Daily morning and night routine will provide protections from serious long term damages to your body.
It's like climo is playing a game of shadow
It's like the old C swing in reverse for golf.
hehe Climos great acting out everything
The guy in the back ground just isn't anybody, he's a 10x world champion Ken Climo
12x
Oh, my bad 12x WORLD champion.
@@rpvanderwall04 after like 7-8 it’s all kinda the same right?
biomechanically
It's ironic to me that I threw like KC at 18:53 naturally when I started disc golfing. I played a lot and my shoulder hurt so I posted my driving form online and everyone told me I need to follow through with my back leg more, which caused me to develop a habit of "rounding" which I'm now watching videos to try to break.
having trouble with the leg whip and spinning on my toe...how to do both??
+MARK PARRISH you shouldn't spin on your toe. you should be spinning on the heel or the ball of your feet. Spinning on your toe makes you throw AROUND you rather than THROUGH your body. It takes a TON of retraining to get out of that habit.,
+MARK PARRISH you shouldn't spin on your toe. you should be spinning on the heel or the ball of your feet. Spinning on your toe makes you throw AROUND you rather than THROUGH your body. It takes a TON of retraining to get out of that habit.,
Do u push off w/ the back leg like a pitcher on the mound does?
of course
Not necessarily . The moment moving forward will automatically force your left leg inward
@@HaikesXO I was always horrible backhand in tennis, but I was a pitcher, so, I try to do some sort of opposite.
@@filoIII just think of the motion as a lateral stride. Stay sideways
Nope, it’s a falling motion onto the front foot.
If the pull is much like a golfers swing like he says that must mean the x-step is more like Happy Gilmore than Phil Michelson :)
Why , why why am I off balance after I shoot. Kaaaaahn!!? ... Oh wait , thanks Dave Feldberg ..
wouldnt that left leg going back and snapping be terrible for you're right knee?
I think Feldberg is wrong in terms of 'the zone' he doesn't bend his elbow a full 90 degrees, which is what all the big throwers do..
Half the stuff he said is crap. The "leg whip" is nonsense as that comes from hip turn. The impact zone is wrong and if you watch slow motion vids of Dave he doesn't even do that. The disc ejects farther forward. Mostly every disc golf clinic is mainly subjective drivel. Then you have every idiot on here like "durrrr you helped so much with this masterpiece" and they can only throw 300ft inaccurately. I mean seriously how stupid do you have to be to not even understand what your body has been doing on the one million shots you've thrown throughout your career. I feel like they're doing it on purpose and keeping secrets. I watched McBeth mentor Brodie Smith and he's 1000+ rated after playing for only a couple months. Secrets for sure.
@@brandonshukuri6487 Because Brodie Smith never threw a frisbee before disk golf, right? The guy was playing ultimate for how long?!? He was doing trick shots for how long?!?! And oh, he quit the DGPT after a couple of events last year because he was totally out-classed and didn't belong there. He was working with McBeth before playing those events. He certainly was NOT a 1000 rated player after a couple of months, he was still less than 1000 at the end of last season. He was full-time practicing for a long time before he got to just under 1000 rating. How may adults starting to play disc golf without an Ultimate background can practice at it like it's a full-time job like Smith did. Not many - if any.
@@danlewis1885 I took into account Brody being a pro athlete helping him learn quicker. I even thought about him being from an ultimate background. Ultimate would give him an advantage for throwing forehand (and it did), but I can't see it helping much beyond that. I actually meant a few months, not a "couple". Paul mentored him for only 5-6 months and he could win official A-tier tournaments and put up a fight in pro open division. Brodie had a deep butthurt when he couldn't make lead or chase card after only playing for 6 months. You are underplaying his skills and completely ignoring the nature of the game. From almost every top pro's own mouth, it typically took them many years to reach that level. McBeth is the quickest I've ever heard at 3 years to playing on tour. With the exception of the people he's mentored. Anthony Barela, Brody and a few others have become rapidly good under his tutelage. My charge was keeping secrets. I've met multiple people who've paid for instruction from McBeth and Sexton and couldn't throw worth a damn. Trust me, it doesn't matter if you have 8 hours of everyday to practice if you don't know the correct mechanics it's completely wasted effort. They know how it works, they're just protecting their livelihood.
@@brandonshukuri6487 Just because you take a lesson from McBeth or Sexton doesn't mean you'll be a good player. Many take lessons and then don't go out and practice or they incorrectly apply what they've been told. Just because a guy is a top player doesn't make him a top instructor, either. Ezra Aderhold practiced for two years in anonymity pretty much working on his form before going into tournaments and then won A-tier his second year of competing. He credits a) playing golf in high school and b) watching videos of Will Schusterick (and a couple others whose names I don't recall) to learn how to throw. He went out and filmed himself every day just working on throwing form. I don't recall him mentioning working with a top rated pro for six months (see interview on Scott Stokely channel). There really aren't any "secrets" to throwing backhand. Unless you're willing to make a huge time commitment to seriously working on form you will never be a great player - that holds true for all sports. And then there's the factor of "natural" ability (aka innate talent) btw, If you think ultimate only helped Brodie Smith on forehand, then maybe you haven't seen some of his trick shot videos; the guy clearly had great control already throwing shorter backhand frisbee throws so throwing upshots probably wasn't too hard for him to figure out. And he's yet to win an A-tier event as you claim according to PDGA, he's got two wins to his name (one a B and one a B/C). If he was butthurt he wasn't a top player in six months, that's his problem.
@@danlewis1885 You clearly like arguing just for the sake of it because you ignored most of what I said and repeated the same things I already covered. I didn't say the people who paid for instruction were good players, I said they couldn't even throw a decent shot. McBeth always claims how he's a terrible coach, yet the evidence shows that he may very well be the best coach ever. And why wouldn't he be?? He doesn't throw nearly perfectly by accident in every tournament. He rapidly trained Brody and Anthony Barela is an even better example. He also trained another kid who made it to the pro circuit, but my memory is failing me. I don't consider short upshots (the easiest shot in disc golf) worth mentioning even if you are technically correct. No secret to the backhand? I'm not buying what you're selling as reality would suggest otherwise. I've been playing for 7 years-ish and the vast majority of players can't even begin to throw a decent shot. I remember when I first started playing and the PDGA even quantified this by showing there were around 300,000 players as members of the PDGA and only a tiny percent of them had ratings over 900. It's common knowledge in the disc golf community that if you are 1000 rated then you can get par on practically any course that's thrown at you so that means that the vast majority of players are playing plus rounds. And I'll say it again since you ignored it- It doesn't matter how much you practice with incorrect form it's a complete waste of time. I remember devoting time to the sport like it was my full time job and I've literally seen almost every instruction video on CZcams by top pros (and many amateurs) probably 10 times each and it never made much difference.
My mistake, I never checked Brodie's PDGA page to confirm as I remember him saying something about winning a couple A-tiers. I could be remembering that incorrectly, I think I remember the vid and I will link it if I find out he did say that. I was a fan of Brodie from his trickshot vids before he ever played disc golf. This is where I got 6 months from because I watched it happen on his channel. Although there's a video of him playing my local course with McBeth and Lizotte lying that he knew nothing about disc golf so his time spent practicing could be a bit deceiving.
biomechanically...
I find this camera angle extremely frustrating, I can't line my body and feet up the right way because this view is from 45degrees rather than from straight on or straight from one side. Really dumb way to film something people need to follow along with to get their feet right so they can practice as they watch.
I got that loud snap since the beginning. With every disc and almost everytime im ripping more than 70% power on my drives. First year when i started i drived like 80m, i had snap. Now 5years later 120m with any driver(no flex, just straight), snap. My form is good technic is okay, i believe its just bullocks what you say about snap is wrong. Some players have it some dont. Locastro, mcmahon, gibson rip discs beyong imagination. They snap. Locastro snaps even on many ways
been thinking about this few days. little the rim more it snaps. Example destroyer has good size rim and it doesnt snap much as often as my p3, roc3 and pd what i carry and throw most. Straight controlled shots doesnt snap but controlled hyzers and anhyzers snap.
So when talking about snap you are saying that no pro can hold on to a disc in a throw because it comes out from...??? So much speed and they just "time" where that "escape" happens, in the impact zone?.... IMHO like most sports one has to take out all the variables they can, throwing on a line takes out all those possible rounding points of release and gives more consistent in line results. Line up your shoulders with the target and throw in a line towards it, pick the right disc and putt for dough!
Dude on the right is extremely distracting
Just a 12x world champ
Those kicker speakers are mad ugly
that dude is the biggest distraction...he needs to sit lol
you mean the 12 time world champ Ken Climo? he's not just that dude
Am i crazy or is there literally no reason for this other guy to be on stage?
Not crazy! Just EXTREMELY IGNORANT!! that "other guy" standing on stage is one of the best disc golfers in the world!!