Browning Buckmark .22 Pistol - Voquartsen Trigger vs Tandemkross Victory Trigger
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Here we put the Tandemkross Victory trigger to the test with closeups comparing it to the Volquartsen trigger in live fire. This is done via two different pistols, however each pistol has been verified and proved to shoot with equal accuracy. The pistols used are both custom Browning Buckmark semi automatic .22 LR pistols. The Tandemkross victory trigger can be seen to have reduced over travel and the feel is much more comfortable and crisp during a controlled trigger squeeze. Again, it is worth noting that these two pistols are indeed identical in mechanical composition, both having the same internal components.
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I've installed that trigger and their gearbox sear spring love it my Browning now has 1.5 lb trigger I never checked my stock trigger but it is most definitely substantially lighter.
yep! the stock trigger on the Buckmark is one of the best single action triggers in production. most come in around 3 pounds or so. all of mine (with exception of the newest, a mini bull version) have a tweaked spring (same idea as the gearbox just something that was done long before the gearbox was avilable as a drop in solution), the victory and a very good polish job on the hammer/sear. these three things put the trigger pull on those under 1 pound at this point. of course as they get dirty, the polish job needs to be done again, obviously but it does make them out to be some formidable bullseye competition pistols for sure. keep us posted how you are liking the buckmark and the upgrades
.22 rimfire bullets are soft. I’ve always been curious about whether chambering the first round from an open bolt or a closed bolt will cause a POI shift for that round. From a closed bolt, the top of the bullet will endure a minute scar from the bottom of the slide taking across it, as well as every following round in the magazine. Throughout the stripping of the magazine, the pressure from the Mag spring will force the bullet onto the slide with less pressure, maybe reducing the “scarring.” Feed ramps also inflict a slight deformation of the bullet tip. These factors probably have no real world influence, but it’s something neat to think about.
hmm, in theory, maybe but in reality, not so much, at least not with quality ammo. in a quality firearm... i have seen way too many 22 firearms shoot literal jagged hole groups in those situations and the hardness is pretty close to the same, have tested that. but you gotta consider that the higher the quality of ammo (excluding anything coated or plated anyway) is usually very greasy or waxy. so creates a bit of a barrier and or lube situation. interesting though though, thanks for sharing... and on an old video too!
I know this vid is old now, but I just installed a Tandemkross trigger on my Buckmark. I also have Tactical Solutions' barrel installed. At 50 feet, using a bag to sight in my new optics, a was able to get sub MOA groups with two different ammos, Lapua CenterX being the thightest. You definitely need to try different ammo.
yep, no doubt you did, with Eley match, these things rock and roll. i have several videos, all older, on different ammo and what one can expect. you are totally right, the better the ammo, the better the groups. with the buckmark, i still contend that it isn't so much the trigger itself that helps but the flat face allowing better consistency to the pressure of the pull. either way, the Tandemkross stuff is amazing, always has been and they keep pumping out great stuff. have you checked out their gearbox that simplifies and provides consistency to the spring flip on buckmarks? if not, might take a look. i was honored to be able to announce that product for them at SHOT Show this year. still have not released a video on it.. yet, but it is a cool addition to a buckmark. thanks for watching, thanks for the comment and thanks for actually looking at the date... most folks don't pay attention to that and on many videos it does matter.
@@CloverTac Yes, I also installed the gearbox. And agree the flat face trigger helps with consistent pull, no up or down of the finger rocking on a curved trigger face.
This seems not to be a test between two triggers but more of a test between two firearms. Maybe one of the firearms is inherently more accurate than the other no matter what trigger's installed. To test just the triggers they would have to be installed on the same firearm. Agree?
Maybe, my custom Buckmarks all shoot the same when rested. It may have been more prudent to do it on one pistol or at least to do a control grouping in retrospect. Our scores in matches have improved since the installation of these triggers. They are phenomenal compared to any other. For us, it is not just this one little test that determined the superiority. It is easy to see in the video how much more controlled and deliberate the trigger pull is. All internals being the same otherwise from one Buckmark to another of course. I will concede, putting one of these on a wore out pistol and expecting it to out shoot like one of these custom pistols we have here is asking way too much. But, I am confident in saying you would see a difference in match level performance as well as the feel and the confidence that feel instills with these triggers. That all said, the Buckmark is one of those pistols that have an awesome trigger right out of the box, probably the best of any normal run pistol. To find anything that slightly improves their accuracy is a bit of a challenge. I think how ever I would have done the video, there would be an issue eventually from someone. Even if I had done it on the same rifle, undoubtedly someone would have come along and accused me to purposely tanking the Volquartsen because they are a fan and that name is popular. At the end of the day, I test, I give my opinions, you believe me or you don't. Hopefully it intrigues folks enough to pursue looking at both these options a little more and that is the overall point.
I have not put the trigger gauge on my stock Buckmark. I gave it to my wife and she gave it back. I need to lighten up the trigger to be somewhere under 3lbs. Which trigger do you recommend?
gonna try to hit you up on email, if you don't get something from me, then shoot me an email
@@CloverTac ok thanks
@@CloverTac Search on CZcams Ruger MK-0 by MK3 Firearms. He said he would do a Browning Benchmade for me. Thanks
@@WheeledandWellArmed what is a browning benchmade?
@@CloverTac Sorry, that was my spell checker on my phone... it must have learned "Benchmade" from the knife company and should have been Buckmark
First..
I love my tandemkross trigger. And it is the only trigger I use. BUT I do not believe this test shows anything.
First. 2 different guns, do the barrel and weights have an important part.
Second. Your follow through sucked on the VQ.
Third. If you are going to cross off a “flyer” that you did not call when you shot it , then you should have crossed off the flyer on the other target as well.
I appreciate you attempting to showcase these two great products but there were no actual results that were of any value.
very well, thanks for watching
I disagree with throwing out the flyer. A trigger never makes a gun more technically accurate - it lets the shooter SHOOT it more accurately. As such when comparing triggers saying "The flyer was my fault" isn't valid, because the "you" part is the part that is going to be affected by changing the trigger.
when shooting from a rest and trying to be as consistent as possible for sake of comparison, it does matter, so yes we disagree. do you have any comparison videos on this? would love to see your methods for reference. thanks for watching.