Nintendo Will Screw Up Their Next Gen Console
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
- Here's how we think Nintendo will mess up their Switch successor. What are your thoughts?
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That "switch in his personal life" joke caught me off guard lol
same lol
Something to keep in mind regarding the NES and SNES "doing well" was the fact that the Famicom and Super Famicom were even bigger hits in Japan and competitors couldn't put much up of a fight in comparison, including Sega with its underperforming Mega Drive.
The reason why Nintendo had to put up so much of a fight with Sega in North America was primarily due to Nintendo not wanting to release the Super Famicom outside of Japan when the NES was still selling extremely well, where as the original Famicom was declining in sales starting around 1988.
So really Nintendo had multiple smash hit eras with the Famicom Boom from 1984-1988, to the NES exploding in popularity around 1987-1990, Nintendo's Super Famicom being the talk of the town in Japan up until the release of the PlayStation, and the SNES and Genesis arguably doing equally as well with Nintendo winning that fight in the end.
Plus the Genesis was bundled with Sonic and got a significant price cut ahead of the SNES launch making it the budget 16-bit console and selling for a loss in NA, Sega also had an exclusive partnership with EA whose sports titles (Madden) were massive system sellers in the States. Neither of those factors were relevant in JP. It's also worth mentioning the SNES still ended up selling significantly more units than the NES in the U.S. despite the loss in market share due to the industry rapidly growing in size with each subsequent generation back in the day.
I think the biggest threat to Switch 2 right now is whether or not Nintendo can justify the upgrade to their customers. Worst case scenario is that they don't, and the system stumbles out of the gate like the 3DS did, only to pick up steam in a few years once the new Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Zelda all come out.
One thing is that it’s most likely to come out with i new 3d Mario because there hasn’t been one since 2017
I don't think that will be a problem. The upgrade will (should) be big even if they don't match a ps5/xbox series X in power. The switch was already low power when it come out. They will also have a lot of great first party games ready for the next gen console, I'm sure of it. We haven't had a real 3D Mario game since 2017. Mario Kart 8 is like 10 years old. Many of the switch games where from Wii U.
The problem can be if they have a new gimmick. But that's what makes Nintendo great. I just hope they can squeeze in some power also. They would need to be at least a series S in power
@@FHC1944 I’d say at least in between Xbox one and series s but I don’t know how close those are
@@tippedjoshua6802 That won't be enough. Cause then the next gen console will not hold very long. I rather see a 50$ more expensive console in the beginning and we get a better console that will hold longer. The series S is not that powerful and it was released 3 years ago. When the next gen system from Nintendo comes out it will be 4 years. If Nintendo can't even match that in power, they will have problem. Nintendo will hopefully also have some sort of DLSS to help the console.
@@FHC1944I don’t even the steam deck is that good so unless they do a home console or use a dock that makes it that powerful I can’t see it happening
"HD Rumble felt great and no one used it" Pretty much every Nintendo game has really high quality HD Rumble that is used to convey feedback in games by having different rumbles. Not only that, but the PS5 controller does that too now so I wouldn't call it a flopped gimmick at all.
My Switch collection will cry if theirs no backwards compatibility, I have more Switch games than anything else!
The Wii U pissed me off because on paper I thought it was a great idea, especially with expanding the DS concept into the home console, and the ability to play games on the screen without using the TV. But much like the Wii motion controls, nobody really bothered to take advantage of that functionality in compelling ways. It was just a gimmick tacked on at best for most games.
And when Nintendo announced the branding of the Wii U, I immediately knew it was a huge mistake. The majority of people who bought the Wii were casual gamers, who wouldn't know what exactly it was. It still baffles me to this day that Nintendo made such a huge mistake, because it was so easy to predict. Hell, *I knew* what the Wii U was and I still found the branding confusing, because it was just too damn similar to the Wii. Combine that with the fact that the system looked the same at a glance, and it shared peripherals with the Wii, it's not at all surprising that people were confused about what exactly it was.
Part of the problem for Nintendo creating a new gimmick for a new console is that they spent all of that time developing it and tweaking it to know exactly how it works and how they can best use it. You can't expect third parties to just jump in and immediately start creating the same kind of quality experiences that Nintendo advertised the system with. A great example is the Wii-mote. Even without the nunchuk attachment, that controller generates a LOT of data. Making sense of a simple gesture requires a lot of testing and tweaking to get it right, so it's no surprise that third parties resorted to "waggle." I maintain that motion controls can be compelling in some instances but only when they're done right. And doing motion controls right isn't what grabs gamers' attention. Not to mention, sometimes I don't want to swing a controller around or point it at things. A lot of the time, I just want to sit down and play the traditional way.
Nintendo shouldn't have focused so heavily on the gamepad with the Wii U. They should have encouraged more traditional games to be made and they should have included a Pro controller with the console, or made the screen removable similar to the Switch Joy-cons. But I still think the biggest problem was that they needed to better differentiate it from the Wii. I think if they had done that, it could have been a successful console. Well, that and it needed a LOT more storage.
I think another viewpoint to look at this is through Nintendo’s history with handhelds.
The Switch isn’t just a console, but also a handheld, and for the most part Nintendo’s handheld have maintained a sense of consistency while still being able to sell well.
You look at the GameBoy and the DS, and how they evolved, and I feel it provides a good template for how the Switch could evolve as well.
even their handhelds ita up down up down and currently up so going by Nintendos handheld track record it will be down
I'm going to scream if they go for confusion marketing AGAIN and call it the "New Switch"
@@xyanide1986 You mean like New Super Mario Bros Wii U Deluxe For Switch? Would Nintendo do that?
@@JohnSmith-xv1tp "new mario" "new 3DS" you name it
The problem is the amount of other handheld options with more features and better performance. The only reason a switch is an option these days is for the IPs and slightly cheaper costs, which for the specs/hardware is still a huge mark up. Plus with VR options across all platforms, motion controls or gimmicks are basically a default for any console and there's nothing new they can do that VR isn't doing already. The IPs are the only thing keeping Nintendo going now, their system is so beyond outdated and all of their usual gimmicks/tricks are industry standard these days. Cheap and IPs, all they have going for them.
one thing we can agree on , the ps5 and xbox showed us that transitioning to a new generation creates alot of consumer confusion
I think it was less confusion and more apathy. The great majority of Microsoft/Sony game sales and digital content revenue are still coming from last generation's consoles. Game sales are pathetic for PS5 and Series. Developers fucked themselves by going in so hard on additional revenue streams beyond the initial game purchase last gen, because now the new gen can barely start until they cut off their revenue streams from those highly monetized PS4/Xbone games.
I want to think that Nintendo learned their lesson hard with the Wii U, but I fear that they might have un-learned it by now.
SwitchU incoming XD
I think the switch 2 will succeed if Nintendo does proper marketing/advertising for the console. That way we don't end up with the marketing that was the Wii U, making it clear that this is a new console.
looking at their past console cycles, its a little up in the air.
their first 2 consoles did really well, then N64 and Cube stumbled.
then the Wii happened and that went CRAZY, then the WiiU happened and that went poorly.
so its a pattern of 2 good console, 2 middling consoles, one amazing console and then a "not so good" one.
and with the Switch being a run away success similar to the Wii, they could very much stumble again and have another
WiiU situation on their hands, but the overall company shouldnt be worse off as a result due to all
the other things they have going on that they didnt back then.
Moreover, they need to not name it something stupid. The problem with the Wii U was the fact normal people who don't follow game news couldn't tell that the Wii U was the Wii 2. So a lot of parents pulled the "but we have Wii at home" card on that console.
@@chronossage yeah, it was very unclear at the time what it was exactly.
The marketing wasn’t what killed the WiiU; it just wasn’t what people wanted at the time. It was analogous to the PS3 and 360, only it came out over half a decade later with way less games for a way higher price. Having a similar name to the Wii was the least of its problems.
I appreciate the honest observations on Nintendo. Sure they make good games, but they're really hit or miss on reading the market. Don't forget, the SNES spent it's first few months in the states with parents angry that it wasn't backwards compatable with "the Nintendo we already own." hopefully they've learned, and we don't get a Switch-U.
Keep in mind, THAT was more because there was a recession at the time.
What do you mean? Market is not a complex system where you cannot just easily perform tests. It's just one number. Number more bigger means more good. : )
I worked at Gamestop in late 2013. You guys would be surprised how many parents asked me if the WiiU was a tablet add on to the Wii, this was weeks before the Xbox One and PS4 came out. I had to explained that no, it was a new console from Nintendo. They would also ask me if they could get Nintendo games on the PS4 or Xbox One. The concept of hardware exclusives couldn't enter their brains or even be understood.
Can't wait for the Switch U
where’s your profile picture?
Make a version of the Wii U solely for multiplayer games. Call it the Wii W
Omg you guys never age
I just want a vastly more powerful, fully backwards compatible Switch 2 / XL / SP / whatever.
The last time Nintendo had back to back console hits was the NES to the SNES. Nintendo has to pull this off because there is no handheld market to lean on. This is a huge gamble
There is though. The Steam Deck. Honestly, that's their main competitor at this point.
@@FoxerTails Not just that. Steam Deck is EMULATING their games too 💀
>No handheld market to lean on
The Switch IS their handheld. 😂
@@notesscrotes4360 Nintendo had two markets handheld and console now they have one call it a console or handheld doesn't matter . They do not have another market to lean on
@@BubblegumCrash332 Their home consoles were usually more of a liability than a crutch. Even the Wii did worse than their handheld alternative at the time.
I'm just curious whether they'll go back to a separate home/handheld systems. I'm hoping they'll stick with a hybrid style setup
I kind of just want that dual screen functionality back.
@@CaptainBlackBread Yeah as somebody who played the wii u a bunch, it was pretty nice. I don't see it returning though.
They definitely won’t; people were debating whether they should stop making a dedicated home console since the late 90s, and the second they stopped they started printing so much money they didn’t know what to do with it all. There’d have to be some titanic market shifts for them to go back to the old ways of doing things.
Would you consider the Meet & Greet at the Detroit Retro Gaming show to be a mini-HardCon?
I like to think of it as a "semi-hardcon"
I think they'll name it to something as confusing as New Switch. I wonder if they'll bring back 3D screens, as they're still sat on all the research from the 3DS and VR headsets are a thing, so could have an add-on headset for head tracking whilst built-in screen displays 3d within. 3D TVs no longer exist, but who knows, we've currently plattoed with 4K panels. Bought time this gen had 4K 3D rather than 720p 3D that made it look garbage.
Names I came with if I worked at Nintendo:
- Nintendo Power
- Nintendo Master Pocket
- Super Nintendo Switch
- Nintendo PS (Portable System)
- Nintendo Special
- Nintendo Horizon
- Super Nintendo Switch U Cube 64 Wii boy
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Hate to admit it but I'm worried about this too. The reason the switch did so well is because it was do different than the other consoles and did something no one else was doing at the time. Same with Wii.
I think they're going low risk on the next console and just upgrading the GPU and graphics card.
Why don’t you have any faith? They explicitly said they need to take a lot of consideration when deciding their next console.
Yeah, there's only so many gimmicks or motion controls to be had. There's a ton of handhelds these days, there are a lot of VR options that incorporate every gimmicky motion control they could think of, their systems are always 5-10 years behind in performance, etc. The only thing they have going for them now is their IPs. (and being slightly cheaper than other consoles, but the little you save is nothing compared to what that money affords you on the other options.) It has to be dirt cheap, like 30-40% the cost of a base competitor console if they keep going in the direction they are. IPs can't carry their consoles forever.
@@randomhero123 What’s wrong with gimmicks? I love them!
@@randomhero123 Just because they may be “5-10 years behind” doesn’t mean they’re not fun. FUN, that’s what it all boils down to, not the age of the hardware.
@@benmalsky9834 Gimmicks are fine, my point is there's only so many motion control gimmicks and VR has that entirely covered so nothing they do would be a feature to them. I've loved Nintendo for 30+ years and I'm just getting a bad taste in my mouth. Fun can be had on many systems, lag and fps drops reduce that fun.
I think Nintendo is going to piss people off by not making the new Nintendo switch console backwards compatible with the Nintendo switch games because they want to remaster and remake the old games and sell them to the consumers all over again
As for the first switch launch titles don't forget the stellar titles of all nintendo re-releases from the Wii U. I'm thinking it might be a similar cycle of people not seeing the need to upgrade. I'll absolutely adopt the new switch though. Do agree with Father Jon that the new switch should just have backwards compatibility, Nintendo would shoot themselves in the foot if they didn't.
Regarding performance, they really need it. I made the mistake of playing and beating Elden Ring for over 100 hours on my midrange PC RIGHT before I went into Tears of the Kingdom. Goddamn the resolution on ToTK was killing me, I couldn't even make things out at a median distance. Games with big open spaces need just some resolution if you ask me, it doesn't even have to be super detailed.
I don't hate framerate issues as much either as long as it's stable, but the jump from a modern AAA title to a modern Nintendo title was just shocking. I still really like ToTK, but I needed a real adjustment period coming from Elden Ring's graphics.
0:52 I never thought I would hear that sentence.
7:54 maybe AR-VR as the main gimmicky for Switch sucessor, simply doing a more powerful console wont be enought, the console will need to have a concept that make it stand out for it predecessor.
My idea for the gimmick: a second try at the Wii U concept. No really, hear me out! This time you would have the handheld console in your hand, and you can cast a separate second image to a Smart TV (or they could possibly sell a small wireless HDMI dongle that your system can cast to for non-smart TVs).
It would be cheap (doable with current proven technology), would open up a lot of gameplay possibilities without shaking things up too much, opens the door for DS and 3DS games on NSO, and it wouldn't have the limitations of the Wii U being tethered to a TV. Just don't call it the Switch U...
Not going with OLED is a mistake off the bat if true. Cartridges again is smart and borderline necessary considering portability. It needs to be at least as strong as Steam Deck, and to have some good launch games like a new 3D Mario. A reasonable price point and backwards compatibility are also nonnegotiable.
If Nintendo makes too many mistakes this might be another Wii U situation. I hope not...
I have very recently bought Switch OLED. And I´m more than happy with it! In hand held mode, it runs Skyrim and LoZ like a baller. It doesn´t heat up, runs suprisingly well and the battery life is suprisingly good. But I remember first models had very....nasty problems and I felt bad for those who encountered them.
I hope they will support current version for some time, even though one might think that they will abandon it completely. I´m quite curious to the next gen, though!
I think they'll bring back more Motion controls. I think they can do it successfully.
I remember when I watched WiiU presentation and didnt really unterstand if it was a new console or if it was just a controller update. Naming the successor to the Wii not Wii 2 but WiiU caused a lot of confusion of you ask me. So the new Switch should be named simply "Switch 2". But what do I know? Maybe itll be the "Glitch" or so :D
"Super Switch" would be rad
@@MaaveMaave Oh yeah!
The next gen switch better have some horsepower in playing games. Trying to play Minecraft on my switch has problems trying to render the world around me when I'm going from one side of my world to the other
A bit of background on the cartridge terminal: this is how people used to hack some Nintendo systems normally. Then I can imagine they are thinking about exactly how to do this next.
Wish you guys had a podcast
Nintendo is going to make sure the Switch 2 has hardware lined up from the start and steady stream first year+. IMO it is all coming down to software output imo.
ulillillia book in the back is a flex
Switch released in March 2017. It's in its 7th year.
I thought the Wii U was an add on like the Wii Motion Plus or Wii Balance Board.
I feel confident they’re going to call it Switch Up
Is that Ulillillia's book in the background lol
Hold up, the whole Nintendo hasn’t had two successful consoles in a row isn’t entirely true. If anything the Switch has more in common with the handhelds. The Gameboy line were incredibly successful with each iteration, the same with the DS. I think at this point, the company has learned it lesson when it comes to marketing and selling their products. Granted it’s not perfect, but they clearly understand that people prefer convenience rather than having the most powerful hardware in comparison to the competitors. At this point, my opinion leans with Nintendo continues with their success even though at the end of the day as long as they make a profit things will be okay.
There's already so many handheld options these days, there's already VR with almost every imaginable motion control type gimmick for every console option. IPs and being slightly cheaper than competitors is all they have going for them, I'd argue their IPs are the only thing making them an option at all.
They need to have backwards compatibility with the Switch. Period.
If they dont they will hurt initial sales a great deal and the system may not recover.
One counterpoint when it comes to power. The current consoles aim for 4k so the next switch could aim for the same capability but with a 1080p target like the Xbox series S. Also like how the Steam Deck can run modern games but at 720p on the go. If Nintendo was smart the next switch would be something that could play all current games but at around 1080p. That said they probably won't bother with something smart and technical like that. Just like with how Microsoft has the series S they could actually make their own Steam Deck like device that could play Xbox games on the go.
I know people will cringe and roll eyes about this but I feel it will happen in some capacity. I have this real big feeling they are making a deal with Microsoft to do some form of cloud gaming to allow bigger budget games that would be hindered by power limitations inevitably and they don’t want scaled down. Microsoft was all about bringing COD to Nintendo. What if that’s just the beginning and they have been doing bits and pieces of support for their library with Nintendo? Sure they are the lower budget games, but they are still great games. I feel like Microsoft could whip up some special goods to showcase how Xbox brand is not about just consoles, but a service to share with others as well
Can't wait for the Switch John edition love the video as always guys yeah I have doubts about the new Nintendo console.. hope it will include Analog trigger
Every Nintendo switch has a unique controller. I can’t wait to see this new one.
Nice presentation, there's so many ideas I would like for Nintendo. It's understandable how Nintendo evolved in the video game industry. The question is how would Nintendo come up with the next-generation when they already done almost every idea they have. I also like to pointed out that, I've been also been collecting 6 Nintendo Switch systems
In the past, Nintendo was all about gimmicks, motion controls, etc. If they don't lean into VR then they'll lose that completely. The switch has performance problems or run at greatly reduced FPS/graphics already even compared to previous generation consoles. The only thing they have going for them is often being a bit cheaper(you get less than you pay for though anyway) and their IPs. They're running out of gimmicks without VR inclusion and if the systems are going to be a decade behind in performance then they better be dirt cheap, their IPs can't carry the consoles forever.
It's Nintendo! It will be underpowered, lacking storage, have some unnecessary gimmick, and I think backwards compatibility is far from certain. Frankly, I'm surprised they're even sticking with the form factor. 'Why wouldn't they?' you may ask. Because it's Nintendo!
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Honestly im not even worried about the console its gonna sell the question is the quality in the games tho....
They can go with Switch Two (To), which both is normal naming, but then they could also have the Nintendo punny situation as well.
How would backwards compatible work with the Pokémon games since you can’t back them up? Makes me think Nintendo wouldn’t do it.
It would not shock me at all if Nintendo screws up. Many console manufacturers have after a big hit. But they could always correct the course and end up with another winner. The PS3 sold terribly but ended up outselling the 360 in the end.
I'm not getting on board with "New Nintendo console in Q4 2024" until Nintendo announce something. Rumors in the gaming industry are so unreliable.
There's also that Nintendo Labo "gimmick" that they played around with.
As a Nintendo customer, I too am pretty concerned about what they have in mind, especially with how the Nintendo Switch had bad controller hardware for only just the analog stick; the main function to make stuff move. They better don't fall in the same pit by not reconsidering about such decisions.
From the first Nintendo Switch reveal that they showcased the whole system with the controllers I already had a feeling those were so small that something HAS to break, but of course that's just by first impression, and then knowing those were in fact bit weak in the inside (mainly the analog sticks), not saying it feels like some sort of PTSD, but it does make me think twice about their newer generation consoles.
If they're gonna make a fusion of certain things put into one and call it the Nintendo Fusion, then I'm gonna lose it. 🤪
I have 4 joycons and a switch lite that drifts harder than a pro drifter. I've commented a few times on other threads here so I won't say the same things again but as a fan of Nintendo for 30+ years, the IPs and being cheap are the only thing they have going for them. Beyond frustrated with Nintendo and likely avoiding the next console.
@@randomhero123 Sadly us veteran Nintendo fanatic either join the bandwagon or stay disappointed, as the company clearly shows they care more about the marketing and money and make a lot more games for newcomers and/or the younger audience that somehow end up not having a lot of charm, or are exploitable in one way or another, because they try to put in too much content in their games, and even hardware, apparently.
I don't know where we're going with the gaming industry, but one thing's sure: I'm not looking forward to it. Especially with how Nintendo handles things the last two generations. Mistakes can be made, sure, but not to the point we're getting tired of it or unmotivated because of the realization that we actually don't really enjoy specific things they bring at the table. D:
We shall see what the future brings us. We do know Nintendo LOVES to surprise everyone, in either a good or bad way, whatever goes... xD
Nintendo seriously should just push cloud tech making them more powerful for the larger games needing more power
I'd like to believe they will buck the trend... but let's be honest Nintendo are good at finding a way to fuck up. Fingers crossed. I am gonna say 70% odds it's successful. But wouldn't expect it to necessarily surpass Switch sales.
Collectors: *I see this as an absolute win*
Eh, Nintendo will always struggle to win around everyone. There's a reason why they don't bother with graphics so much. They did very well to squeeze what they could out of that Tegra chipset. The thing is that people are *not* going to tolerate the same graphics processor again, so they *need* to step up somewhere. I could see them maybe aiming to match the PS4, but we are definitely not getting a direct competitor to the PS5, that's not how they do things.
They have been very specific in saying that their aim is for NSO to continue onto other systems. If they scrapped that rather than building on it (which isn't terribly hard, it's much harder to start again with a new service). They have also said they want to preserve purchases in a way they weren't able to with the Nintendo Network, which, while not a given, does imply backwards compatibility.
They know why they failed with the WiiU, and they are quite aware that marketing was the key problem (because it's actually a pretty good system despite it's limitations). I know people like to say 'it's just another Wii', but it's not that simple.
People like to claim that the SNES did badly, but what it was instead was a slow burn. Overall it did very well.
I do believe because Nintendo are now focusing on one console instead of two, the Switch's successor isn't going to be ignored the way the WiiU was. But they do need to be careful with the marketing, to not make the same mistakes again.
One of the huge struggles is that they are still very Japan-facing, and this is quite notable even now, following Iwata's passing, they haven't been as outward as they were when he had the reigns (but I imagine this was also because of Reggie, who is also no longer part of the company). Bowser isn't as willing to interact with the public the way Reggie did.
Yea, yea, but can we all just talk about how great John look in those glasses? 🥵
Think they are in a difficult situation, do they release it now when switch is still popular? It will no doubt be more powerful but what will that mean for cost? The switch is now outdated technology but still goes for 250 - 300 $/£. They will need to keep it portable to keep the popularity but then why would people upgrade? A huge portion of switchers will be families with kids so why would they upgrade? They are not interested in how powerful it is. It still needs to tailor towards the mass audience. Here is a big issue, if its portable and uses cartridges, how expensive will they be for consumers and developers? The games cant be that much more powerful to fit on a cartridge so it must be like a switch 1.5.
Industry supply rumors were really spinning up last year of a successor, so I can imagine they postponed because the switch's mainstay power. Honestly I'd be pretty happy with a switch 1.5 or 2.
It won't be fully backwards compatible unless it's powerful enough to go the Xbox BC route and emulate the tegra 1 (and even then the entire library likely wouldn't be supported since it would not be universal and would require tweaking on a game by game basis). It's not as simple as just adding a slot for original Switch carts, they would also need to add the same tegra chip to every "Switch 2". Even if Nintendo wanted to do that they couldn't, Nvidia stopped manufacturing those chips altogether a few years ago. Nintendo has a ton of them stockpiled, but that's just to get them over the finish line of this generation there is no way it's enough to carry them through another one. In all likelihood they will implement the ps4 -> ps5 style of BC where the most popular titles get patches/code updates to run on the new SoC and most of the library unfortunately gets left behind.
He's really on his fucking phone during a video
I think with the switch, people are such a fan of the console, if the successor is just more powerful, and gives the joycons a much more ergonomic form factor, I think people will be happy and upgrade. That is literally the thing I hear the most from people talking about what they want from a switch 2, is just another switch but more powerful. If they have some silly gimmick that is necessary to the console or if it is not a hybrid console, I think then it will fail.
Also it will be called the “Swootch” or the “Swunch” and all the games will be cel shaded and kiddy (Even MP4)
The absolute biggest thing they need to focus on is power- bring your damn consoles up to modern standards, maybe DON'T use a cell phone SOC that's outdated before release
It will be called ‘Switch Me’. The gimmick will be VR/AR. 😵💫
I thought the late 2024 release was only a rumor. Did something change? I can't find anything.
No comment on the switch successor. BUT Tony's styled hair is what I like to see 📸
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Their home consoles tend to struggle, because historically, people don’t actually like Nintendo’s home consoles. But the Switch isn’t a home console! It’s a handheld! The same troubles won’t apply. They’ll probably have something like a base PS4 or Xbox One with some modern features like DLSS and ray tracing. 900p and 1080p games upscaled to 4K on TVs.
I could see Nintendo trying to capitalize on the Switch name in the same way as the Snes or the Wii. Super Switch maybe? Lol. But I think you touched on it a little bit at the end where yes, the Wii sold like freaking crazy. Couldn't keep em in stock for months. But the people buying them were casual gamers who never played games and we're fascinated by motion Controls and wii sports. That was nice nintendos strategy, to get MORE people to buy the Console and appeal to people who wouldn't normally buy the console. After a few months, the novelty wore off, and the Wii began collecting dust. The people in the home who were gamers, had likely moved on to PS3 or Xb360. So trying to capitalize on the Wii name fell VERY flat. Especially Considering the power of the system compared to PS4 and XB1 that were brand new. Wii U was more comparable to PS3, sooooo... That was rough. I'm am trying to stay optimistic, but Nintendo could try something crazy with like NFT's or a Meta verse type thing, but hopefully they put everything into trying to keep up with PS5 instead.
Correction: Switch has only been available for a little over six years.
if next gen is a late 2024 early 2025 release that is close to or at 8 years that is longer than any Playstation generation
There is another problem: Back when the WiiU failed hard, Nintendo had the successful 3DS as a Backup.
They always had the Mobile Consoles parallel to the release of their Home Consoles.
But that is no longer a thing, because the Switch basically killed that Mobile Console LineUp. There is no successor 3DS as a Stand Alone Console.
Those two lines combined into one line, when the Switch was introduced.
So Ninentdo has NO BACKUP this time around.
If the Switch 2 fails, they are fucked.
I agree and I don't think they can go back to making 1 home console and 1 handheld for each gen either so that would be really rough.
If they don't make it backwards compatible with Switch, then that would be a fail. If they add BC and optimize them with better performance that would be solid.
Nintendo would probably do well just playing it safe and release a Switch 2 with about 3x graphical power to the current Switch.
I think the only way Nintendo will be able to impress people is if it can somehow be better or worth getting versus the Steam Deck. That's the current Switch killer and will continue to be for the Switch 2 if they fail.
And I hate to say it, I think Nintendo's new gimmick might be trying their hand at VR again. The Switch already lightly dabbles with it if you have the Labo cardboard set.
It might be a handheld hybrid/VR on the go console which might not be so bad, but I don't think Nintendo is very skilled in doing VR just yet.
Also, they'd be out of their minds if they choose not to do backwards compatibility... yet I fear they won't include it.
Here's hoping for the future though.
Very based
N64 not selling well is not very accurate, it sold 1 million less units than snes and actually outside anything Sega ever put out including Genesis. Seems more Playstation increased market scale dramatically.
I assume you're talking about the USA market (you're correct if that's the case). That being said, the N64 didn't do nearly as well as the Saturn and the PS1 in Japan, so it got 2nd place overall (as Saturn did terribly outside of Japan IIRC). I definitely agree that Sony just increased the market scale instead, however. But I do think that all three of those consoles (Saturn, PS1, and N64) are awesome consoles (even though N64 should've had native RGB support instead of sticking with S-Video).
In either case, competition is a good thing. If there's no competition, then companies get complacent by making average goods instead of attempting to make something that knocks the consumers' socks off (and/or having a price reduction).
After recent leaks and rumors about the Hardware for the next console i’m kind of worried about it being a failure and also just the state of Nintendo completely changing. Seeing nintendo begin to be on par sounds like a bad thing surprisingly
Title is strong bate, and probably will age terribly
If it ages terribly, i'll be thrilled. Would rather have a great console than a bad one.
thank you for bating all over the comment section mister yoshizuyuner
Nooo if it fails I might go soft 😖😣😣😖🤧😞
NooooO!
I have the pikachu switch console with an unopened poke ball plus.
Understandable, have a nice day.
Lol remember Tony u not being so sure about the Switch at first being disappointed it wasnt more powerful like a non hybrid console would be.
Perfect name: Switch Up!
Can't wait to pick up my New™ Super Nintendo Switch U OLED 64
It's gotta be Super Switch
Man I hope that's the name
They would need to add a new gimmick that it's more than just a switch 2 like, obviously more things but at least a new gimmick in my opinion
But why would you port your AAA game to a Switch 2 console if the installed base is a couple of millions? They cannot sell the new system as having a 130 million user base if your games are going to be exclusive because power.
5:25 everyone is expecting the leap for Switch to it sucessor to be a Wii to Wii U kinda of leap, this is not gonna happen, is gonna be a Game Cube to Wii kinda of jump
what your next video
Let's face it, Nintendo will name the next system the Switch U...
just make sure to have exclusives and not put ports of it on the switch. why buy a new console for a new zelda, if the old switch runs it too, just with less frames
While I'm still concerned that Nintendo could stake it all on a dumb gimmick, I think their history of complacency after a big success is the bigger threat.
The obvious example is the Wii: it was a big fad at first, but it didn't have staying power- and Nintendo didn't get that. They milked it into irrelevance, and then still followed it up with a direct "sequel" in the Wii U.
Meanwhile, you had the 3DS, which tried to coast on the DS's popularity- it almost failed miserably, until it got a price drop and some good software support.
Even before that, what caused Nintendo's decline from unchallenged victor in the '80s to third place in the GameCube era? It wasn't by chasing powerful hardware, as the revisionists say. Nintendo was clinging to outdated attitudes (games are for children) and storage media (N64 cartridges) all through the '90s, and they needed to go all out on hardware and software with the GameCube to gain their market share back. They didn't, as much as I love the system and the library it built up over time.
Ultimately, Nintendo puts a lot of value on their hardware, and they seem to expect it to sell itself on its own merits. But a strong library is really what makes or breaks it, and I'm not sure they understand that. Based on their history, a Switch 2 with moderately upgraded specs and a so-so launch lineup seems likely. But the story has yet to be written!
Nintendo is always relying on gimmicks to sell their consoles, when they have been well established brand for decades and don’t need to anymore. I think SNES and the GameCube, were the only consoles they released without some gimmick selling point. Then from Wii on went back to that format. I say if it’s not some cool original mind blowing gimmick. Then just forget about the gimmicks.
This video will age poorly... I'm calling it now!
Let's check back in a few years...
Hopefully! I'd rather have a great Nintendo system than a bad one.
Im expecting one tbh
Switch has been on market for 6 years. Not 7
John did you at least get the money back from your lotto ticket?
No...
the switch is already at the point where third party games are dead, unless you count the last hope