😡 SIMON JORDAN CLASHES WITH MAN UTD SUPPORTERS TRUST OVER THEIR NEW OWNERSHIP DEMANDS! 👀💰
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- Simon Jordan gets into a heated debate with Chris Rumfitt of the Manchester United Supporters Trust about how much leverage they should have in the process of Man Utd attaining new ownership and how the club should operate.
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I’m a fan of McDonalds. I can’t expect a position on their board of directors 🤣
Well said!!
Funny enough I went down and told them I was a big fan and I waited for them to put me on the board but I got ejected out haha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Precisely. We have no right to have a say in what goes on behind the scenes.
It's a bit different. You dont exclusively eat at Macdonald's or spend every weekend there cos your family has a historic loyalty to the restaurant. I agree with what you are getting at but fans see themselves as much more than consumers. But actually if they acted like consumers rather than a religious congregation they might get their way more. If Macdonald's piss you off you wont eat there but fans will keep spending their money on the club like idiots no matter what. All these people who hate the Glazers, why did they buy a season ticket this season?
@@osr4152 Well said. Any owners coming into a club understand this fully and see these supporter organisations as noise in the bacjground. The only way they will get the ear of any ownership group is to do it with their feet. Walk away, and stop putting money into the club with Merch/Season ticket sales. That will never happen though because the fans are too invested in the clubs emotionally.
How can they be so ignorant to think an owner is going to be that involved with the fans - from a united fan
glory hunting idiots
It seems like thinking they are still a big club is not delusional enough 😭
minority - especially these fan channels who fuel hatred against club and players on daily basis
"We're the customers." Yes, just like the guy who orders mushy peas gets to dictate the business decisions of the chippy. Your supporters are insane.
@@JulioTr95 being a big club or not is a separate Convo ,united still the biggest club in English football
If I had 6bn and bought a club, then some berk called Dave or something came to me and demanded where my money is to go, I'd be close to slapping him 😭😂😂
That’s done me 😂
haha 😂 so true.
If you had 6bn you wouldn't have any anger to be slapping anyone.
Yeah come on spending that much money and then be told what to do ?
As a 39 year old United fan, I have to agree with SJ, nobody is going to pay 6 billion and then liase with MUST on decisions, it's just not going to happen
specially with the most arrogant delusional fan base on earth it not going to happen
Who asked for your age?
Your fans think so 😂
Let’s say the new owners just let the fan group have a golden share or something. There’d just be tons of infighting amongst those within the supporters group. It’s absolutely fucking insane. I’m American and maybe there are cultural differences here but it wouldn’t even cross our minds to make a request like this. Obviously the owner of the business gets to run the business. That said, it’s also understood that if they don’t put out a good product the fans will turn away. If the fans want a hand in decision making they can pool their money and invest in a percentage of the club. No business owner is just going to hand control over to a bunch of clowns who have zero financial stake in that business.
@@JackJackJack123 spot on lad. Unfortunately the Mancs aren’t as well educated in life as the rest of English people are. We put it down to smog and them working the canals 😅
Bet Simon rubbed his hands together when they told him who was coming on and what for 😂
Speaking of rubbing hands. A jeany rubs his hands to get EL DON Jordan out of the bottle. Once out, he grants 3 facts and 3 truths only. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Hahahaha😁👊👍
@@MW-zd5gn "A jeany".. That is world class. But, I know you mean a genie
@@j-larne did I mention he comes out of a 70grand bottle of Roman emperial wine... Simon = philosophical thinker, World class wine drinker
@@MW-zd5gn I wouldn't doubt it for a second. He is just a classy guy
Simon telling it straight and facts
He always does 🎉
Welcome to the jordanites chizzy 🤝 Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@@MW-zd5gn TOP BANTER
I dont know who in their rightful mind thinks that a new owner at united owes the fans anything. The owners can have a conversation with the fan base, but beyond that i would assume not. Ongoing dialogue fine... but not ownership and a seat on the board. What business experience do we have?
Also this notion about debt and dividends - we have to get used to the fact that thats business. People buy businesses to make money. Not to appease some fan base. For very rich owners its a toy. For companies that want to buy a football club (not sure why they would do that).. but they are going to expect a return. Ok maybe they dont lever it 15x but maybe 5x or 7x. Its all part of the commercial world. Also dividends are part and parcel of ownership.
@@MW-zd5gn Muppet
MUST are an embarrassment, take no notice of them.
It's true. Man utd fans think m.u.s.t are irrelevant.who the hell do they think they are?
I'm a Utd fan and 100% agree with Simon. When I first saw this in the news, I was quite embarrassed. How can a bunch of idiot make demands when it's not their money? If they really want a seat in the board then these idiots can just pay the 4-6billion.
But you're not a United Fan. The club you loved when you started to follow it is no longer the same club. It is literally a different entity with different agendas, and it's going to happen to every single club in the premier league until it collapses 😆
@@errolmargiela1261 premier league won't collapse. It's too big to fail. What will happen is that it will become increasingly franchised like the US major leagues
@@errolmargiela1261 but we don't want these united fans to be apart of the club because they don't have the money to keep up with city
@@Stinkmeaner420 It's only sustainable at the moment because there's a core 6 that is an inspiration to investors interested in getting their own action in the smaller clubs. Once inflation properly hits and more and more clubs are bought by foreign billionaires or interest groups, prices will inflate, which will lead to the Premier League demanding an ever bigger paypacket from advertisers, and it will ultimately lead to a bubble burst when everyone realises there's only value in the league because everyone is in agreement that there is value, and everyone's only in agreement because there's so much money involved. It will be hyper lucrative for a few years yet because financiers will continue to throw money at it to keep the cogs turning and justify the loans being dished out, but give it time. And in terms of your too big to fail statement, google the Global Financial Crisis.
@Errol Margiela get with the program will ya .
Buy the club for 6 billion and then have a supporter tell them and advise them how to run that business 😂😂🙈
This guy has more chins than braincells.
You have to laugh at these absolute clowns. United fans think they are above and beyond.
Not just Utd fans AFC fans too
whoever is buying Man united is not buying a football club they are buying the fan base, the culture of the said fans their passion and the engagement. if its about football then they would have bought any football club cheaply
He’s spot on with what he’s saying. The fan is living in a fantasy world if he things any owner will pump 6 billion quid in and let fans have a say! Which will cause even more arguments between fans..
Man City and Chelsea have done it.
@@aryan.4855 no they haven't
He really isn't...United don't need money pumping in...take the debt away and they are flying.
They don't really need a rich owner...they need people to stop taking money every year.
@@eth9334 they did, Chelsea bought 6 players for lampard and 14 players in their 1st era. Man City spent 1 billion on players and another billion on infrastructure.
It’s not real fans though, it’s jumped up yes men who “ allegedly “ represent the fans!
This is hilarious 🤣. I appreciate the sentiment behind it but it's completely out of touch. How many other fan bases have such a set up? Simon absolutely schools this fool
fool is not the word, clown sounds better🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don’t German clubs have this?
@@jujutrini8412yes
@@jujutrini8412 are we in Germany?
@@Ali-ll5ik I thought as much but wanted to make sure. Thanks for answering me.
As a united fan I have to say this fan base is embarrassing
Totally agree.
With a name like that you do not speak for man utd ... go and play cricket son
Totally agree with Simon. Why don't all owners of Apple products claim the (in)sane rights. Idiot fans think their time spent watching a game, gives them owner rights.
If you not happy, support Chelsea.
@@bensmith5288 be quiet, you pleb.
It's like I buy a PS5 and some random guy a few miles away is trying to tell me what games I can play
or give ps5 to him after you spent your cash on getting it
Its like getting a date with a 10 out of 10, then the guy at the bus stop tells you where you should take her.
I’ve never heard of Chris Rumfitt in my life does he know the offside rule 😂😂😂😂😂
Fxxk me that's a hard question who does know
How about an own goal 😂😂😂
He’s never heard of weight watchers that for sure
Let VAR decide this Argument🤣🤣🤣
says they want a partnership but has a list of demands. it’s a business pure and simple. if i spend 6 billion i can assure you i’ll want a good return
Some fans are totally deluded (as a Newcastle fan we had them too) where they think they should have a stake in the club when a takeover happens in order to have a say. Using Man U as the example here, in a £6bn takeover, a 1% share would cost the fans £60m. Even if they could raise that much money (maybe Rio Ferdinand can help...?) they'll only have a 1% share and will get outvoted by the major shareholder on every decison. It's pie in the sky stuff. Fan engagement from any new owners is the only way it can be done, but even then they don't have to take anything on board.
They already have a fan made club for this. why doesn't this Wally invest in that?
Funny how Newcastle fan thinks that they ca have say about top of league 😂 funny times
Simon is well informed, I can see he grew up writing his own homework
Simon ripped him a new one 🤣
Simon rips a new one in time itself. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Apparently Newcastle united owners will be buying Man Utd as well. Is that even allowed to happen?
@@MW-zd5gnmarching on together. We’re gonna see you win. We are so proud, we shout it out loud we love ya LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
@@MW-zd5gn Simon and M W = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@2 Sqn Bandit naa that's not gonna happen they are building something big
I'm a Manchester united fan and I agree with Simon...we live in the real world
So what is it your a fan of exactly? acceptance of dissociation between you and the club?
@RyenHemoro doesn't matter how much of a fan u are. It's called reality fans need to be realistic
Whoever is on that board would get bought out in a heart beat. And they'd betray the interests of the supporters.
The entitlement of this fan is astounding
😂 You gotta love Simon. He makes a good show
He is a top G.
Peter Griffin just got roasted by Simon 😂
🤣 funny
Freaking Sweet!!!
More like Chris Griffin
Fantasy land for that fella. Knew Simon would have him on toast.
i don't see what the problem is,
in germany and and spain fans have a huge say so on how the clubs are run, they partially owned by the fans
As a man utd fan, I’m so embarrassed that this guy is representing man utd in any way what is he smoking? Simon absolutely ruined him
"If anybody was to call you customer, you'd be outraged" absolutely bang on SJ.
Why would I be outraged?
@@mattm7426 must is a horrible organisation they were in bed with the glazers got all the perks for keeping quiet 🤣 they basically want the same treatment from the new owners
@@barebasics nothig to do with my comment but ok
When egos leave reality....
Strange how when Newcastle supporters said they were due some success. They were told no one is owed anything in football. Look at Man U fans now talking about 'should' and 'deserve'. Maybe a few seasons in the wilderness is what they need.
Chris once had a Football and didn't let anyone else play with it!
Na he was the one who got picked last at school and got stuck in goal ..
I thought Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt found this guy face down in a bowl?
Simon makes a very good point about the European Cup, and how it doesn't have many of the champions from European countries in it. It has become similar to the proposed European Super League, in that it keeps several teams from 'top' leagues in the competition, and makes it very difficult for legitimate champion teams to get in.
they should listen to fans and take into consideration what fans want but at the end of the day football clubs are business which they own so they can run it however they see fit
To much money in the game to listen to anyone
I’m a United fan and Simon hit the nail on the head, agree with him. God some people are so deluded 😂
im utd fan same as you said
No you aren't
love jim, simon and Danny . great lads , talk sense , could listen for hrs
Simon, never Change! 👏👏
Doesn't really matter what Manchester United means to the fans. The fans have no more right to be on the board of directors as they do Tesco's board of directors. It's not your business and like Simon explains, there are methods for fans to voice their opinions but giving them actual power within the club on an operational level would be, as he says, for the birds.
They've got no chance and they do t speak for the rest of us.
"We don't have the power to enforce anything."
The one and only sensible thing he said!
Fans don’t have the power to enforce anything? Getting the super league cancelled, getting the glazers to sell the club? No they really can’t enforce anything can football fans
You could tell Simon was ready for him
As a United fan myself i think it's extremely arrogant of us United fans wanting any new owner to basically conform with us fans with us telling them what to do. Like any new owner will do such a thing. We can have opinions yes but to demand all these demands from any new owner is abit unrealistic imo
Thanks Simon 👏🙌 good to have someone who managed a club before
How can one fan, or a trust of fans represent a worldwide fan base and think they can speak for and know what every single of those fans would want?
Bang on they don't represent me for a kick off(pun intended)
Chris is completely right in calling the fans customers so as to bring the conversation to a level Simon can appreciate, but the sad fact is that fans aren't the same as typical customers. When the product deteriorates, there is no substitute for your team; if you stop actively supporting them you've most likely given up on football which many are unlikely to do.
I have to imagine owners understand this and see the security in cash flow from a lack of competition for existing 'customers' one for the huge draws for buying a club. The threat has to come from missing out on capturing new fans and the future revenue growth that comes with it.
But fans do walk away so that isn’t guaranteed. When teams start losing or get relegated attendances drop, investment drops. So making out that the fan should have a big say is nonsense. Not one person would buy something for 6 million and say it’s purely the fans and they should have a huge say. Everything he mentioned was common sense as an owner. Every club goes through this transition of having the best then falling behind. Once you new modernised facilities are built they fall behind as the next new one comes along.
Fans are global they won’t stop spending just because the club is leveraged?
As a United hater this was hilarious
The guest is clearly naive but the sentiment behind what he is saying is bang on, surprised that pretty much every comment seems to back “owner can do what he likes ‘cos it’s his money”. Forgetting of course we’re talking about countries now…
One of the reasons why United continued to decay was the plastic “fans” continuing to hand over money to the Glazers. If a new owner knew they had to engage and work with supporters in order to keep the value of his asset then the club would be a lot healthier and stronger in the long-term.
That dude is way out of his depth. If he can’t get one up on Simon there’s no way a buyer of Utd would be swayed by him.
The sheer hubris of these guys. Essentially saying, "we'll tell you how to spend your money"
Simon tells it how it is
MUST are asking something that they don’t really deserve. Delusional lot they are. All we as Manchester United fans want are owners who give a damn about the club and to make it successful again.
Football clubs will liase with fans and then do what they were going to do all along. Like one of those steering wheels you stick on the back of tbe seat to make your child think they are driving.
Another London Man United fan. It's pathetic.
That way of thinking is what is pathetic
United fan here, this is so delusional it’s embarrassing
Some manc accent
The “oh yeah” at the beginning cracks me up 😂
This guy is in lala-land. Nobody spends 6billion to let fans run it to the ground ..
I'm a 4th generation Utd Supporter and I am constantly embarrassed by these self appointed representatives. The club doesn't need to work with the fans. It just needs to listen and communicate better. The fans having a say is a terrible idea.
Tbh these fans act like the new owners won't build a stadium and stuff like that , building a new stadium and buying players will only increase the club value therefore making the owners money
It's a bit like letting Joe public decide whether to stay in the EU or not lol.
At least the football fans know something about the club....
5:09 and that’s what people like Chris don’t get, you aren’t the customers anymore. Advertisers/sponsors are.
Take all those supporters groups, add them together and they don’t cover half the revenue of what one company buying advertising space at Old Trafford does.
The TV revenue from overseas is potentially going to quadruple in the next 3 years (depending on certain deals happening) and the implied corporate sponsorship opportunities will be enormous.
The idea that anyone is buying an established Premier League club to get £100 out of 70000 rotund poor (relative term when we’re talking about billionaire’s) people like Chris once every two weeks (in 2022) is absurd thinking.
I hope the new owners represent the fans and build Manchester United back into the best club in the world 🏆🏆🏆
Chris can't see or touch his toes yet he wants to be on the board of a £6 billion plus pound corporation. Lol
Supporter's Trust struggling so hard for relevancy.
Fans' rep on the main board of a club worth £6bn: "the bar's run out of fookin scratchings". Dreamland.
Udd fan here. What MUST are demanding is ridiculous
Simon referred to United as a business so he referred to to fans as customers, and then Simon asked why his referring to them as customers haha
The hilarity of someone who's clearly not from Manchester saying it's a community asset. How's it your community from the home counties lad? If you want a community asset, support your local teams
i agree with jordan (99.9) from the major footy element. but i think the main supporter club should get given or allowed to buy at least 10 percent BUT this goes for all clubs
Sounds like when he’s talking about having a fan on the board he’s talking about himself 😂
Simon is also spot on about my club Burnley
Simon is nothing but spot on with everything. He eats riddles and excretes solutions. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@M W agreed mate 👍
@@bfcrangers5411 welcome to the jordanites Young cobber 🤝🤝
@@MW-zd5gn M W eats riddles and excretes facts daily as does his fellow OG M W. M W and Simon = Top LADS Proper Clobber
You can't demand someone who spends billions on a company to do anything 😂😂😂😂
@Danny Tallmage someone got a sad life here 🤣🤣. Imagine going around spreading hate online yet has no balls to say it in public
Speak when told, boy
Hilarious, the guy looked and sounded like the phone Jacker character, Geoffrey Dufriase.
This guy was funnier though, a real laugh a minute 😂
People like this dude is yet another thing wrong with this world. People wanting everything for nothing.😂🤦♂️
MUST are the most arrogant fans group ever. Who do they think they are, you're fans that's it. Nothing more nothing less
I took the advice of this amazing gentleman.
I am now proud to say I own a 2% stake in my local barbers and they will not be buying new clippers without my approval.
The fan uproar will continue to mean nothing as long as they continue going to games and buying kits. The owners don't need to change anything as long as revenue from fans continue flowing in.
I just love this so much, I could listen to it all day. I want owners and owner adjacent groups to start treating these "supporter" unions exactly the way they are treated by them. 😂
Simon Jordan is a breath of fresh air 👍👍👍
I like this Simon. He always gives another perspective on the topic. I don't always agree with him, but he always makes me think about another possible alternative.
A fan base that call there team "United" will always be deluded the club is in a mess top to bottom and they think the Newcastle owners will sell up to buy them sums up Manchester United fans 😂😂😂😂
How does calling your club "united" make you delusional?
Man Utd are coming back, people like yourself can’t accept it. New owners is the biggest piece of puzzle and we need the right one.
@@eth9334 because my friend there are plenty of other teams called "United" what about Leeds, West Ham and the biggest United Newcastle?
There is nobody here who wants the Saudis.
We are United...nobody thinks of Newcastle or West Ham when somebody says United.
United doing badly is bigger news than Newcastle winning a league.
They have 50k fans worldwide, 6k at home under Ardiles.
Worst fairweather fans around.
Even boo'd Bobby Robson the scumbags.
@@laurenceevans6742 You still didn't answer the question? Why does the fan shortening the name of their club make them delusional?
lmao these people are delusional
A lot of our fans don't know what they want anyway. It constantly changes. I just want owners who aren't here to bleed us dry and who also appoint best in class people to run the club for them like City's owners did.
1 billion and £200 million spent You do understand The Glazers own the business it is all owned by them. Ask a grown up to explain it to you
Thanks, Chris - comedy gold!
If they want a say they have to put up at least £1 000 000 000.
He’s absolutely schooled this clown 😂
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts 💪😉👍
🤣🤣💯 facts
@@donaldduck5553 The Don = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts 💪😉👍
Simon and LFC Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber
@@donaldduck5553 Donald Duck = Top Duck Proper Clobber
@@sammybeck4855 Another one to the Club Association Sammy lad. We've got the DON in the house
I think UEFA helped stopped the super league more than anything. The threat of being eliminated from the champions league the current season got a lot of teams to backtrack
also the threaten of tjrow of the home leagues make thjem changes, is realy only 2 country who dint treaten them to kick out of the home league, and it why whos 3 team stay and fight for it, also becuse ther all 3 run badly, ther close going burst.
Big football clubs ain't community clubs anymore, they're a global club with many more fans around the world than live in and around Trafford.
Just when you think it'd be nice to see them 'back' meh give em another decade of nothing.
Simon gave him a well deserved lecture. If a club was run like Man united fans wanted they would be bankrupt
They do not represent united fans at all. MUST are completely out of touch
Exactly, they the fans are the 1's demanding start signings and after they flop, call out the owners for bad investments. Hypocrisy, I say
@@UnitedLoyalist why we criticise the Glazers is because they just sign whoever is popular at the time. It has been generally better over the last 2 summers so I wouldn’t complain too much about transfers anymore. The main issue now is that Old Trafford has been left to turn into a tip and our training facilities are fairly average for a premier league club. Leicester have better training facilities than us just with the money we gave them for Harry Maguire ffs
@@stevendonovan7564 The fans would never be pleased with them so why bother splashing the cash! Similar to Mike Ashley at Newcastle, money was never going to be spent on facilities/youth as every penny has to go on the pitch because the fanbase is too demanding
@@interstellarbeatteller9306 the match going United fans aren’t that demanding. All we want is investment in Old Trafford and the training facilities for the men and women which the owner may have to get a loan for or invest some of their own money. Get footballing people in charge of making football decisions and have a consistent way of playing that aligns with our values of attacking football and giving youth a chance. Besides the stadium development, the club practically finances itself with how much it makes through revenue
I'm a customer of Tesco, can I have a seat on the board please? Oh and a free trolly dash every week. 🤣
To be honest, manchester utd doesn't need outside investment, the money generated is enough to buy players and renovate, they just need good strategies
The glazers are panicking thinking liverpool are guna cop for the big money big from the middle east which will probably happen. Its so cringe watching that whole club operate🤣🤢. From the board to the fans. Never has club deserved so much badness as that media hyped corrupt commercial beg united
Ive read that three times and still have no idea what you are actually trying to say
Glazer will & has the power to sell to anyone long as they make a buck out of they don’t care who they sell it even if it’s new owner Glazers 2.0
@@eth9334 tbf a 10 year old could decipher that so not sure what that says about you
@@SunOfTheSun It was more of a joke than being serious but ofc that would go straight over your arrogant head
Businesses listen to shareholders more than customers.
FFS Chris, grow up!
Speechless
If you united fans think turning away from the Glazers will be a great new beginning then just you wait, you'll deeply regret getting rid of them.
No we definitely won't. There's rules the FA have put in place to stop owners running clubs like the glazers. It's basically impossible in the state we are in to get worse owners. I have no idea what could make you think united would be worse off with different owners. The glazers bought the club on debt and didn't invest a single penny of their own money into the infrastructure of the club... maybe have a rethink
Being a spurs fan we know about owners not spending money but surely man utd will and have always spent money and a lot of money
They will be given a token gesture seat to have meetings every qtr with a administration assistant who will write up minutes
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber
This fact is straighter than shatterproof ruler. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
Grow up
@@keh.32 it's not our fault your walk around in second hand lionsdale clobber. Bow down to the Jordanites for redemption
@@MW-zd5gn very rude I dress very well, also I don't have a brown tongue, from ass licking a man who wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire . So give simons picture a kiss and have a good night's sleep.
@@keh.32 Behave or leave Clobber room lad
Yeah because Jordan is a really successful football club owner!
What has one got to do with the other, the fact is he is right about this!!
Watch what you say about Simon mind, because you might upset all his fanboys. As it goes I dont really disagree with most of what he says in this interview, but in general he can be a bit of a dick.
jordan is skint
@@pauljones8218 Really ?? Where did you read this ?
Not really successful but considering he got his boyhood club into the premier league in his mid 30's and was the youngest owner and chairman in the country at one point I'd say he's achieved more than most of us could dream of doing
A club like United should be like Madrid Bayern Barca...with no owner..money from fans, contracts, sponsors etc..United is big enough to do that...
As a utd fan , I can understand both sides but yeah if you pay all that you want full ownership and expect it . Having said that utd are a unique club certainly the biggest in the world , so new owners have to accept that