Good And Bad News For The Nintendo Switch 2? (Report)

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock Před 4 měsíci +321

    I’ll be ok with LCD. But it is a bit annoying knowing they’ll release an OLED model later. The OLED Switch screen is beautiful.

    • @mathewmcdonald826
      @mathewmcdonald826 Před 4 měsíci +12

      I think you're correct. Marketing would suggest a launch model with the LCD, and then an upgraded OLED model after, just like the current switch.

    • @mikeb497
      @mikeb497 Před 4 měsíci +26

      I really, really hope they dont wait until the end of the console's life cycle to release an OLED version

    • @bravefastrabbit770
      @bravefastrabbit770 Před 4 měsíci

      @@mikeb497 Well you hope wrong mr wage slave. The japiew has to get his money

    • @alvzcizzler
      @alvzcizzler Před 4 měsíci +2

      At least I hope they put a good quality IPS LCD, there's some that while ofc not on the level of an OLED, they are not too far off with impressive contrast for an LCD but they seem to be rare as most OEMs and stuff cheap out

    • @irrefutable_mrT
      @irrefutable_mrT Před 4 měsíci +13

      They are doing it so that they can have forced obsolescence, 2 to 3 years after a 'new' oled will emerge. Vote with your wallet and don't buy one until it's oled

  • @whiterunguard4717
    @whiterunguard4717 Před 4 měsíci +89

    I just want faster load times and more reliable controllers

    • @pablocasas5906
      @pablocasas5906 Před 4 měsíci

      Don't know if the Nintendo Switch cartridges (technically they're Game Cards) are faster than discs, but they're not in the same level compared to how fast games load on the PS5, and they don't function the same way as cartridges worked in previous Nintendo consoles. In regards to the possible stick drifting problems, well that depends on the manufacturer, Nintendo gets it sticks from the same company that provides sticks for other consoles and even on bigger controller they began drifting the more people use them

    • @JoelLinus
      @JoelLinus Před 4 měsíci

      That has nothing to do with cartridge vs cd@@pablocasas5906

    • @whiterunguard4717
      @whiterunguard4717 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@pablocasas5906 but even when the game is downloaded on the switch consoles native memory it still loads slow

    • @pablocasas5906
      @pablocasas5906 Před 4 měsíci

      @@whiterunguard4717we'll see if Nintendo is going to implement some sort of fast-loading technology like their competitors, though I would't count on it

    • @TheMysteryDriver
      @TheMysteryDriver Před 4 měsíci

      @@pablocasas5906ssd? That's the technology.

  • @OConnelsSideOfDaRiver
    @OConnelsSideOfDaRiver Před 4 měsíci +221

    We also might forget: lcd screens have gotten better so it’s not like it’s the same screen as the first switch

    • @angelblack4479
      @angelblack4479 Před 4 měsíci +6

      True

    • @Tech-is1xy
      @Tech-is1xy Před 4 měsíci +38

      I would not complain if the switch 2's screen is similar to the Playstation portals LCD screen.

    • @benlastname6667
      @benlastname6667 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Agreed. It likely won't be the really nice mini led though. Lower end oleds don't put out as good of pictures as higher end lcd these days. As long as they didn't use a really cheap lcd it should be pretty decent.

    • @ganlet20
      @ganlet20 Před 4 měsíci +33

      There’s no way Nintendo is using a high end LCD

    • @DocTime56
      @DocTime56 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I hope they put a nice one on it. The switch’s LCD screen is not impressive at all, even for 2017

  • @neogalactic1195
    @neogalactic1195 Před 4 měsíci +61

    The nintendo Swiitch pronunciation is cursed

  • @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch
    @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch Před 4 měsíci +163

    It's a common strategy to withhold key features (oled) and introduce it later on as a "revision"

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Citation

    • @psylencecy
      @psylencecy Před 4 měsíci +32

      ​@@mikeuk666common sense

    • @jamesho8258
      @jamesho8258 Před 4 měsíci +27

      @@mikeuk666 Apple doing the same shit to their customers for years

    • @mpholicx2
      @mpholicx2 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I'll just wait. Not going back.

    • @MusharnaMush
      @MusharnaMush Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@psylencecy no legit citation, PSVita came out with OLED, then removed it... so souce? phones don't do this shit, they may relase new colors half way though life cycle, but not a new screen.

  • @markfeuchter2051
    @markfeuchter2051 Před 4 měsíci +23

    I actually think we don’t get an official reveal until April and get a September release. You don’t kill first quarter sales and have the entire last quarter mostly for the switch 2. I bet they could sell out 10-20mil units in that time

    • @joshuaB.Nicholas
      @joshuaB.Nicholas Před 4 měsíci +1

      Truth

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Also they aint movin switch 2 units on tech alone. They will need strong lineup of launch titles to push the system. Sure it will have backward compatible switch 1 games but if theres no graphical enhancements for older titles it will be a tough sell

  • @TigeronStarfire
    @TigeronStarfire Před 4 měsíci +19

    I feel like hitting a mass market price point is essential for the initial lineup. If they end up having a premium model alongside it, all the better, but I'd be okay trading it off for a larger screen if that's the only model.

  • @XtreemeX
    @XtreemeX Před 4 měsíci +70

    For me there are 2 selling points. Backwards compatibility including the original switch cartridges and my joy cons working with the new system as well. When a set of joy cons are 80 dollars they had better work.

    • @djjjjjd
      @djjjjjd Před 4 měsíci +17

      I doubt joycons will be backwards compatible since the new console will have a different form factor. At best they might be backwards compatible wirelessly, but I wouldn't count on it. Actual controllers are better than joycons with or without the grip anyway, and decent ones aren't that expensive. Also, the switch has awful ergonomics in handheld, so I personally would prefer a more ergonomic redesign of the joycons over backwards compatibility.

    • @XtreemeX
      @XtreemeX Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@djjjjjd to each his own 😁

    • @monkeyball9223
      @monkeyball9223 Před 4 měsíci +3

      The person has a point the PS4 controller only works a certain way on the PS5 and the PS4 controllers cost around $75 to $80​@@XtreemeX

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 Před 4 měsíci +4

      If they didn't have that stuff backwards compatible that'd be such a dealbreaker. Now that the Steam Deck is a thing and handheld PCs are an option, it's harder to compete without it. Previous handheld consoles could get away without it because they were the only game in town, but now they're not. And with handheld PCs already having a bigger library than the Switch thanks to the lack of proprietary hardware and a library of games that spans decades, the last thing the Switch 2 needs is being unable to handle something as basic as previous generation hardware.

    • @djjjjjd
      @djjjjjd Před 4 měsíci +2

      Another thing that makes joycon backwards compatibility unlikely is the fact that the switch doesn't have analogue triggers, because I think I can speak for most people when I say I hope the next console does.

  • @capcomfan82
    @capcomfan82 Před 4 měsíci +25

    Theres nothing wrong with a lcd display for a portable. The screen on the portal is just fine, dark games are a bit of a issue sometimes but overall lcd is solid.

    • @adamothman1124
      @adamothman1124 Před 4 měsíci +2

      LCD is trash

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Před 4 měsíci

      the portal is not a portable console...

    • @Mirror371
      @Mirror371 Před 4 měsíci +4

      They never said it was portable

    • @TheMysteryDriver
      @TheMysteryDriver Před 4 měsíci

      @@jesusbarrera6916you understand those are separate points right? Not the same thing.

    • @TheMysteryDriver
      @TheMysteryDriver Před 4 měsíci

      @@adamothman1124LCD is far from trash. This is some zoomer 1st world stuff.

  • @mandrews6282
    @mandrews6282 Před 4 měsíci +9

    People are already complaining that it might ‘only’ be PS4 graphics equivelant. Nevermind that most 1000 dollar PC handhelds still do not hit full current gen console visuals. Nintendo needs to sell this thing at console pricing while cramming as much as they can into it. It’s the same reason the OG Steam Deck had an LCD screen and Nintendo could do something similar (which would line up with the Deck’s PS4 Pro level graphics) at around 500 bucks. The Deck OLED model starts at almost 600 and that’s just too much, and we know Valve takes a loss on these as is which Nintendo has historically not wanted to do with their consoles the way XBox and Sony might. So to get that price point they need LCD. They can sell the OLED later as an ‘upgrade’. And they can get more hardware in it that isn’t the screen for the price point. It’s a handheld. People are being unrealistic in their list of demands for it and it just cannot meet them all and still be console pricing.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      So heres the thing with how nintendo differs with valve. They are selling a console handheld that only plays games. Valve is selling games for a mini pc thats shaped like a handheld. If nintendo were to make a mini pc like handheld it would make it easier for ppl who pirate to crack their games. Also no profit to be made when your biggest income is from sellin the games

  • @joseycomedy5122
    @joseycomedy5122 Před 4 měsíci +86

    As someone who plays on both docked and handheld, no oled screen is bumming to me

    • @Puppet_masterUK
      @Puppet_masterUK Před 4 měsíci +15

      There are some really high quality IPS LCD screens these days. The one on the original swich is 7 years old now so of course technology has move on significantly since then. I agree it'll be a downgrade but I don't see it being anywhere near as bad as the current non-oled switch

    • @ScottieSavedMJsCareer
      @ScottieSavedMJsCareer Před 4 měsíci +9

      ​@Puppet_masterUK it doesn't really matter how good the LCD screens are now nintendo won't use a good one.

    • @Mmmmmk247
      @Mmmmmk247 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Same, my tv isn’t OLED so games like Metroid dred look so good on handheld

    • @TheTyisawesome
      @TheTyisawesome Před 4 měsíci

      I'd prefer a quality LCD over OLED

    • @marijuanaman4289
      @marijuanaman4289 Před 4 měsíci

      I won't buy one without the LED screen

  • @SonGokuSann
    @SonGokuSann Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for uploading this video! Happy Saturday

  • @Zen.Connection
    @Zen.Connection Před 4 měsíci +53

    I always figured going back to LCD to reduce costs on the initial model was the obvious move. OLED is noticably better, don't get me wrong, but I don't think most consumers care nearly as much as enthusiasts.

    • @rajgus7638
      @rajgus7638 Před 4 měsíci +11

      The thing is, the early adopters of the potential switch 2 will be the enthusiasts. Most will stick with their original switch, especially with the probability that it'll get support for another two years
      I do agree it's the obvious move, but it's just a bit disappointing, as an OLED owner I don't wanna go back to LCD. Hopefully we get an OLED version at launch as apposed to later down the line

    • @supersonicultra2
      @supersonicultra2 Před 4 měsíci +8

      I have to disagree. Most people who have seen my switch oled in person were amazed at the visuals.

    • @leonidasvonsparta
      @leonidasvonsparta Před 4 měsíci

      exactly!

    • @leonidasvonsparta
      @leonidasvonsparta Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@supersonicultra2amazed doesnt mean they cared as much as you do

    • @francissampson
      @francissampson Před 4 měsíci +9

      Was it better looking , yes . Was it to the point I needed to have one , no .

  • @mr.random3943
    @mr.random3943 Před 4 měsíci +50

    Let's keep in mind, that new LCD can be way way better than the 2017's OG Switchs LCD.
    Also it makes sense, they probably want to keep the initial release cheap to build a install base. And a simultaious release wouldn't make sense, since nintendo would probably have to design the internals of the systems in a significatly different way to include an OLED.

    • @waltermh111
      @waltermh111 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It doesn't change Internals. The only issue with OLED is it consumes a little more power and it's a lot more expensive.
      The only reason not to have an OLED version at first is they need millions, they won't know which version is most important and it would affect supply chain, so it's better to optimize supply chain and cost issues in the first year until they get a picture of how much chance they can take and know they can afford to split production and set up a second supply chain. Nintendo isn't like sony where they are used to having 100s of products they bring together in their system.

    • @mr.random3943
      @mr.random3943 Před 4 měsíci

      @@waltermh111
      I heard somewhere that they would need a design that is significantly different enough, that it would not make sense to release both OLED and LCD at the same time (from the start)
      But thank you for the explanation

    • @waltermh111
      @waltermh111 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @mr.random3943 Why would a design have to be that different?
      There isn't any difference in design between the switch lcd and oled.
      The difference between the two screen types is only on the microscopic level

    • @mr.random3943
      @mr.random3943 Před 4 měsíci

      @@waltermh111
      I know that the way different panels are lit and get color differs between different panel types. Ithought maybe an OLED was thicker ... but then again, I am no expert.

    • @lukaskidd4621
      @lukaskidd4621 Před 4 měsíci +1

      OG Switch still has a great display imo.

  • @mrpyrostorm3165
    @mrpyrostorm3165 Před 4 měsíci +41

    This 8 inch screen seem to be exactly what is in the playstation portal. Can we be 100% sure on this report as it seems based on manufacturers not on who is buying. In fact every report going back to last year could mean the portal rather than the switch.

    • @Nobody-sp7ug
      @Nobody-sp7ug Před 4 měsíci

      No, we can not. This particular bloomburg author likes to inject his own theories and speculation into his sources mouth and present it as if that's what his sources said. His penchant for this was a main driving force of the switch pro hoax.
      The source, omdia, is behind a paywall, so none of use can check and see if what he's claiming they said, was actually they said.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Just because its 8 inches doesnt mean its the same manufacturer or the same screen. Although iphones use samsung screens ive heard.

  • @meatbunftw
    @meatbunftw Před 4 měsíci +6

    An accurate laminated IPS screen is completely fine.
    I don't know if that's what it'll be, as long as it's NOT like the non OLED Steam Deck screen.
    I go from an OLED to a good IPS LCD screen all the time so the difference is not that jarring, imo.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci +1

      I game on a ips 1440p screen on my pc only cause i prefer higher frames than having 4k resolution. Doubt nintendo will give me 165 hertz screen tho.

  • @XxZannexX
    @XxZannexX Před 4 měsíci +18

    LCD sucks vs OLED, but the price I’m sure Nintendo wants to hit doesn’t allow them to use OLED. I’d pay that higher price point however most people I’m sure wouldn’t.

    • @jimmycarpenter6612
      @jimmycarpenter6612 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I wouldn't say it sucks vs oled. Oled is a little better sure but not so good lcd suddenly sucks in comparison. Mostly depends on the quality of the lcd you're comparing it to.

    • @HustlerHorstRuediger
      @HustlerHorstRuediger Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@jimmycarpenter6612 I totally agree to you. Also it appears LCD is a little more durable/resistant and easier too exchange - makes sense for a console that many smaller kids want to use too to focus a little more on these things.

    • @jimmycarpenter6612
      @jimmycarpenter6612 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @HustlerHorstRuediger exactly. I'll never understand how people will get a new piece of technology and all of sudden anything that was around before just sucks lol. 4k released and suddenly people acted as if playing something at 1080p is just not reasonable because it looks so terrible. Something releases and loads .5 seconds quicker? The old one sucks now lol.

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'm fine with my LCD SteamDeck. Thanks very much.

    • @enzog1078
      @enzog1078 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@jimmycarpenter6612no, it quite literally does suck in comparison. The exact opposite of what you say is true lmao. It is so much better that going LCD is in fact an enormous mistake.

  • @Tom-101
    @Tom-101 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I love OLED but personally never bothered to upgrade my Switch from the launch version as I always thought the 2 would be just around the corner... they've taken their sweet time. Also don't use my Switch enough in handheld to justify it if its the only upgrade.

    • @thomassantiago4084
      @thomassantiago4084 Před 4 měsíci +1

      same. i play almost exclusively in docked mode. im fine with an LCD, especially if they use that money to give us 12GB of RAM.

    • @Tom-101
      @Tom-101 Před 4 měsíci

      @@thomassantiago4084 Yep don't really care about the colours looking better if it can't run its games at an acceptable standard anyway. Also you only get OLED for 50% of use cases anyway, if you have an OLED TV / Monitor you already have that. I see the value if you're a primary handheld user rather than a mixed or docked one.

    • @Max-uv8le
      @Max-uv8le Před 4 měsíci

      The oled is excellent

  • @retrobrandon
    @retrobrandon Před 4 měsíci +6

    The PlayStation portal screen is absolutely beautiful (when it’s connecting), especially compared to the original Switch. It’s like night and day. So while I’ll always prefer OLED, I don’t think this is the downgrade people think it is

  • @samuelgonzales4814
    @samuelgonzales4814 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I feel Nintendo should pull the page out from the Gameboy book. The jump from the original/color to the gba was much more than I ever could have asked for. I still was gifted and also bought gbc/gb games well after the GBA hit the shelves. I could see myself investing into the new model and still being able to buy and enjoy games from the old library and look forward to new releases.

  • @ian_sear
    @ian_sear Před 4 měsíci +29

    I'm happy to wait for an OLED model. It's going to be ridiculously hard to get the new hardware at launch anyway. Scalpers are gonna have a field day.

    • @andrew8168
      @andrew8168 Před 4 měsíci +3

      If they make 14-16 million then no.

    • @Warmaster00
      @Warmaster00 Před 4 měsíci +2

      i thought they would do something about scalpers after the PS5 crises, it seems nothing changed over there

    • @dannydesperado9211
      @dannydesperado9211 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Warmaster00nothing changed? Really? Pretty sure you can get a ps5 anywhere now, discounted even.

    • @Warmaster00
      @Warmaster00 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@dannydesperado9211 first, i dont live in the US so idk the internal situation there, second, SOMETHING ABOUT THE SCALPERS, as in general, as in prevent scalpers or make it illegal, third, AFTER THE PS5 CRISES, which means i stated that the crises is already over.

    • @dannydesperado9211
      @dannydesperado9211 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Warmaster00 I’m just not sure what exactly was supposed to change? Was there supposed to suddenly be less resellers or people willing to buy resell?
      And you can’t just have a blanket ban on buying and reselling aftermarket goods. I’d get into the specifics as to why that’s a slippery slope but it seems obvious. Honestly the best counter, as with the “ps5 crisis,” is to have supply meet demand. Otherwise resellers will always exist.

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris Před 4 měsíci +13

    I’m fine with LCD. Just used the regular switch with that anyways. So I’m going from LCD…to LCD. Keep the cost reasonable out of the gate. Can throw out an OLED later.
    Have a Vita. I get that people love OLED. But it’s not that big a deal.
    I’m far more interested in how much power it’ll have, physical carts being used, etc.

    • @sleepwalking117
      @sleepwalking117 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah but why waste money on one off the bat that isn't cutting edge? You'll probably have to sell the old one at a loss and get the OLED model. Just being real I can pass until they have an OLED. There's many benefits to OLED.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Oled dont matter if you play docked. I have an ips 1080p lcd on my rog ally and i play palworld. It looks fine to me and i play on minimum brightness setting to conserve battery life

  • @JONATHANP1619
    @JONATHANP1619 Před 4 měsíci +4

    As someone who doesn't care about handheld, I just want to know : Can it run Hyrule Warriors at more than 8 frame per second.

  • @NobodyYouKnow01
    @NobodyYouKnow01 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As someone who never upgraded to an OLED, I’m very excited to see what improvements might still be made between 2017 and 2024.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Ive gotten 2 og switch 1 switch lite by the time i got oled switch and its true i refuse to go back

  • @TheHighestGodisGood
    @TheHighestGodisGood Před 4 měsíci +3

    I want a dedicated 4k 60fps console with NBA Jam/Hangtime, Road Rash, Cruisin USA, and Ridge Racer.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Maybe buy a buy ps5? Your in the wrong console market if you want those

  • @hamstergt1869
    @hamstergt1869 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Could be a miniled display?

  • @ianhowe338
    @ianhowe338 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’ve played my original switch in handheld mode for about 2 hours (both of those hours were in March 2017). When I got my OLED model I played in handheld mode for a bit just because I was impressed with the screen. I was so impressed I finally got around to getting a Sony OLED tv. I haven’t played handheld since I upgraded my TV.
    I would be interested to know what percentage of people never (or hardly ever) take advantage of the Switch’s main feature? I just don’t like using joy cons in general. I know there are third party gadgets that connect the switch tablet to a pro controller, but I’ve never cared enough to try one.

    • @alexk9295
      @alexk9295 Před 4 měsíci

      I only used handheld mode once when I took the switch with me on holiday, but I imagine many people who are not alone in a household use the handheld mode

    • @yessum15
      @yessum15 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@alexk9295It's pretty critical if you're a parent trying to convince your kids that playing video games will rot their brains. Gotta get in my own sessions hiding in the tub.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      You got ripped off sony brand tv are the worst. LG makes better oled tv they have more experience cause they made it first.

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef Před 4 měsíci

    1:00 To "doubling in shipments" means there is something already in production but doubling it. Doubling what? Are they using the same screen as the PlayStation Portal? Could this be a Nintendo Portal? Streaming only?

  • @Neptune8
    @Neptune8 Před 4 měsíci +18

    I think that the system will not be revealed at the direct, but a flash announcement will be made and then bam the system will be released in mid September, be sold out going in to October then a restock in November going to the holidays. I just really hope this isn’t one of those things were scalpers buy up the systems to resell at a proffit

    • @lorddrifter7296
      @lorddrifter7296 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yea man i feel like they gonna get scalped hard

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi Před 4 měsíci

      They wont be revealed until at least summer

    • @modermonkula
      @modermonkula Před 4 měsíci +2

      Straight up on ebay for $900 day one

    • @razmataz3092
      @razmataz3092 Před 4 měsíci

      "Console not being sold out and scalped": I don't think that's how the world works bud

    • @skankhunt7850
      @skankhunt7850 Před 4 měsíci +1

      What the last few years have showed is that it’s going to get scalped hard af

  • @TheInfinityMaster1
    @TheInfinityMaster1 Před 4 měsíci +33

    In my household me and my brother play on his Switch mostly in *TV/docked mode,* so no we don't care about the screen type, just *improved performance* is all we want from Nintendo's next system (in addition to the return of home screen themes, eShop music and being able to back-up our saves locally using a USB flash drive).

    • @Joey-ll3qr
      @Joey-ll3qr Před 4 měsíci +1

      Exactly. I'd rather the money go to power and features like DLSS, Ray Reconstruction and Frame Gen

  • @TheXeroLink
    @TheXeroLink Před 4 měsíci

    7:13 I’d say it has to do with it not “switching” my argument for why it should have is that yes the controllers don’t come off, but how much $ did they save not including that USC function to dock? Do you think including that anyway and forcing Switch Lite players to buy joycons or Pro-Controllers and a dock to play on TV would have made up in margin if it would have still had this function?

  • @jodamora7338
    @jodamora7338 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't mind the LCD screen, it means that it will have a low & more affordable price. Also, a hybrid with a OLED screen is more expensive & Nintendo needs to sell the new hybrid with the LCD screen to be successful from the start/from the get go.

  • @roiwtto0919
    @roiwtto0919 Před 4 měsíci +5

    LCD is ok to lessen the price if its OLED price problem and if you play it longer the screen will be a problem

    • @SilverDreamweaver
      @SilverDreamweaver Před 4 měsíci +4

      Maybe 10 years ago. Burn-in is not a realistic issue for modern OLED displays and hasn't been for years.

    • @Joey-ll3qr
      @Joey-ll3qr Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@SilverDreamweaver This is false. Burn-in still occurring for people and in test and LG still has the statement that it's not an issue with "normal" viewing. Still an issue but takes longer now.

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v Před 4 měsíci

      @@Joey-ll3qr
      If it takes about the length of the entire Switch 2 generation, then it's not an issue.

    • @Joey-ll3qr
      @Joey-ll3qr Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-ds8rj2vc4v It depends on use and other factors so yes it can still be an issue. If you don't play multiplayer games with yellow/red hud items then its not an issue. If you don't play the same rpg for 500+ hours like some then no it's not an issue.
      OLED burn in isn't a simple yes/no issue. People have already had burn in on the previous model and that model hasn't been around the entire generation smh. Clown

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Been using my lg oled for 3 yrs no burn in. Most ppl dont use their tv for 10 yrs, maybe 5? About to upgrade to an 8K oled tv once the price starts coming down

  • @Trazynn
    @Trazynn Před 4 měsíci +5

    I can't go back after OLED. But then again, I have such a huge Switch backlog that I don't mind waiting with buying a Switch 2 OLED either. So hey it all works out.

  • @malcolmroy5669
    @malcolmroy5669 Před 4 měsíci

    im gonna try my absolute best to wait and see if they do an oled version later if not right away. I still have a launch day switch so what is a little more waiting.

  • @ranchan215
    @ranchan215 Před 4 měsíci +2

    So I see people changing lcd screens to old on the steam deck. Could the same be said when the switch 2 comes out we could possibly change screens on the Nintendo switch 2 that would be interesting 🤔

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Thats cause ppl are dumb.. sure steam deck lcd 540p is bad but 1200p oled is ever worse the pixel density is bad and you get lower frames than the lcd

  • @EndoYoutube
    @EndoYoutube Před 4 měsíci +5

    I wonder if the LCD screen will handle HDR well, given that the switch 2 was also rumoured to support that? Seems like an OLED would better be suited for that type of content, but maybe they'll release a premium device again.

  • @ge0ne0
    @ge0ne0 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Welcome back …. To Speculation Wave

  • @HappyHillington
    @HappyHillington Před 4 měsíci

    As long as the new LCD is up to par with the current market's LCD's, then it should be a decent upgrade especially with the extra size compared to both the OG Switch and the OLED. Nintendo had better allow 1080p on handheld though lmao. I'm really hoping for 1440p 60fps (at the least) on all, or most, games for docked mode.

  • @de96erDennis
    @de96erDennis Před 4 měsíci

    Hope there will be a stationary version that is cheaper.
    I didn't use the portability because you can't see anything anyway when outside.
    The screen brightness is not enough

  • @DonWalkJr
    @DonWalkJr Před 4 měsíci +4

    I would prefer a smaller OLED to a 8" LCD. But here is to hoping they have a quality LCD. Maybe they can get an 8" display as vibrant as the Analogue Pocket's seem to be.

  • @MightyRyan1337
    @MightyRyan1337 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I don't think it needs to be full 1080p but I would like to see some kind of increase in resolution maybe 800p or 900p would be good

    • @adamothman1124
      @adamothman1124 Před 4 měsíci +1

    • @ExtremeGuyOne
      @ExtremeGuyOne Před 4 měsíci +4

      I would be more than happy with 900p portable and 1440p docked

    • @DarkWhatever91
      @DarkWhatever91 Před 4 měsíci

      Why the actual fuck you don't think it needs to be 1080p? A 180 dollar xiaomi phone from 4 years ago has better resolution than the fucking switch

    • @put4558350
      @put4558350 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I think it’s 1080p as 8” 1080p is more common parts for android tablet.
      One thing is they might choose LCD instead of OLED because of VRR don’t work well with OLED.

    • @HandledToaster2
      @HandledToaster2 Před 4 měsíci +2

      800p matches Deck and is enough for that size

  • @VEN0M415
    @VEN0M415 Před 4 měsíci

    If true I definitely agree that theyll do this to charge more for a later model. But I feel they'll overcharge for the LCD too which will makr thr OLED even worse so yeah not good.

  • @melissasanchez6633
    @melissasanchez6633 Před 4 měsíci

    I believe that the next model will have a chunckier version of the "joycons". Personally I do not mind the LCD, and imoroved LCD will be great to enjoy for my travel days.

  • @someguy3595
    @someguy3595 Před 4 měsíci +4

    LCD screens have definitely developed in picture quality since 2017 (or whatever year the switch dropped) to compete with what we currently have in our oled displays.

  • @alfo2804
    @alfo2804 Před 4 měsíci +4

    If it's going to be 8 inches then they need to bump up the resolution to 1080p. The Switch OLED's screen size is basically as big as you can get for a 720p screen before you start to be able to make out individual pixels.
    If this is true, though, then I'll be disappointed. A 720p, 6.5 inch screen is perfectly fine for a handheld, and targeting a lower resolution will only allow for better battery life and better performance. 1080p is honestly a bit excessive for a machine like this.

    • @ChicagoBulls1984
      @ChicagoBulls1984 Před 4 měsíci

      I can live with LCD for handheld mode, but 720p in 2023 is a joke. 1080p 60hz would be the minimum and it would look fine

  • @josiahsuarez
    @josiahsuarez Před 4 měsíci

    I hope the sound is upgraded. LCD is fine though 👍

  • @Jimmy074x4
    @Jimmy074x4 Před 4 měsíci

    This kind of feels like it will be the same screen that’s on the PS portal which is a pretty nice screen. And hopefully it is.

  • @triryche3
    @triryche3 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Jon? What do you think the chances are of Nintendo having 2 SKU's? An LCD & a OLED at release?

    • @jacksally09
      @jacksally09 Před 4 měsíci +5

      I REALLY HOPE THIS IS THE CASE. MY WIFE SAID WE CAN'T GET A SWITCH 2 IF IT DOESN'T HAVE AN OLED

    • @psylencecy
      @psylencecy Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@jacksally09its sad when as a child you do what your mother says and when you get married you do what your wife says.

    • @Max-uv8le
      @Max-uv8le Před 4 měsíci

      Fuck that 😂

    • @sergiodebraganca
      @sergiodebraganca Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@jacksally09tell her it is a OLED. She will not know

  • @Evan11J
    @Evan11J Před 4 měsíci +4

    LCD screen is a tough one for me. I'll most likely wait until they do a OLED screen even if it makes me wait a couple years

    • @MysteriousStranger50
      @MysteriousStranger50 Před 4 měsíci +1

      OLED shills are funny.

    • @Evan11J
      @Evan11J Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hardly a shill. I'm not going to buy a new product with an inferior screen.

    • @alexk9295
      @alexk9295 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Evan11Jyou only play in handheld mode?

  • @Warmaster00
    @Warmaster00 Před 4 měsíci +2

    if it is coming this year they better announce it soon, otherwise they wont have time to promote it before launch, and that would be a major mistake, at least if they plan to launch it before christmas, which would be a not so good time to launch it.

  • @mattholt5063
    @mattholt5063 Před 4 měsíci

    If it keeps the costs reasonable for the base switch it’s the right move. I don’t know what the cost differences for the screen are though.

    • @ravenebony2267
      @ravenebony2267 Před 4 měsíci

      It is also tough to know exactly what kind of lcd they would be using. It'll be better than the og Switch no matter what. How much better is the question.

  • @alexiswatson-lowe9833
    @alexiswatson-lowe9833 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I feel obligated from a lack of sleep to remark on how close to on time I am for watching this video. Usually I watch this show in the evening.

  • @chinesekangaroo
    @chinesekangaroo Před 4 měsíci +4

    There's a supply shortage of oled displays, so nintendo can't use those if they don't want the switch 2 to run out of stock on launch

  • @RobMost
    @RobMost Před 4 měsíci

    I reckon that OLED and LCD will both be options, I highly doubt they'll release with just LCD.

  • @rion2964
    @rion2964 Před 4 měsíci

    Depends on the LCD technology used, ie qled which is LCD is like imitation oled lcd screen. I really hope they got a good LCD with vibrant colours and black blacks... but thats probably wishing for too much here. sigh

  • @rtbear674
    @rtbear674 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Nintendo Bait & Switch

  • @mega_ferret6359
    @mega_ferret6359 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I mostly play on my television, id definitely prefer as much performance upgrades as they can. I wish they would just go crazy and make a full on console again.

    • @ravenebony2267
      @ravenebony2267 Před 4 měsíci +5

      The hybrid form factor is a big part of the Switch's popularity. So i hope they just have a better switch, personally

    • @The_Nintendork
      @The_Nintendork Před 4 měsíci +1

      @mega_ferret6359 if I were you I'd get used to hybrids and handhelds taking over the market. It's going to get increasingly more difficult to put out a standalone console each generation and once you break the $600 threshold, most people just move to PC.
      I think this will also be the case for Sony as well, cause the price of a PS6 if not a hybrid or dockable handheld is going to get pricey for consumers and they will lose a huge market share to PC. Gamers that want standalone consoles are getting older and older and the shift is definitely heading to mobile/handhelds/hybrids now

    • @mega_ferret6359
      @mega_ferret6359 Před 4 měsíci

      @@The_Nintendork Oh yeah, I'm definitely not apposed to it, I still love my switch, lol.

  • @ReppinStockton
    @ReppinStockton Před 4 měsíci

    If this reduces cost I’m at least excited to see the upgrade in power or other features.

  • @UnitNo.2
    @UnitNo.2 Před 4 měsíci

    Lcd is fine. There are some many great devices that use one. I never bought the switch oled because mine mostly stays docked but I'm still blown away how good it looks for a 720p lcd when I do play unlocked.

  • @reforgenarsil
    @reforgenarsil Před 4 měsíci +10

    I cannot imagine why launching with two models would be a bad idea given Sony and Microsoft have done so; price an LCD model at 379 and OLED at 449

    • @Warmaster00
      @Warmaster00 Před 4 měsíci +1

      because SOny and Microsoft are more interested in selling you their subscription service , the console is just a means to that end now, they aren't making much of a profit from hardware sales.

    • @azenar1894
      @azenar1894 Před 4 měsíci +2

      379 is a weird price point, it would either be rounded down to 349 or up to 399

    • @JuanRodriguezNushio
      @JuanRodriguezNushio Před 4 měsíci +2

      The main issue is manufacturing. You want to give consumers the least amount of choice so that the one product you make tons of, sells well.

    • @dannydesperado9211
      @dannydesperado9211 Před 4 měsíci

      @@azenar1894”round down” lmao not a chance, they’re getting $400

    • @dannydesperado9211
      @dannydesperado9211 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wait where did you pull $379 from? Just a weird price. I feel like people would be willing to pay an extra $20 for aesthetics

  • @BurnerShiro
    @BurnerShiro Před 4 měsíci +3

    Shame it won’t be OLED but I care more about the performance. Faster loading times is a must for me really

    • @abjames3098
      @abjames3098 Před 4 měsíci +1

      you want to pay $500 for the Switch 2 than be my guest. A 1080p 8 inch LCD is fine and will ensure the system doesn't exceed $399

    • @BurnerShiro
      @BurnerShiro Před 4 měsíci

      @@abjames3098 Hey if the system has good performance and the 500$ is due to being an OLED then I’ll gladly pay it. That’s why I have a job, to buy me things I want, not just to pay bills and invest

  • @Lunarwingluna
    @Lunarwingluna Před 4 měsíci

    I have a fairly old Switch Lite. The control stick has some minor issues, the right shoulder buttons both have occasional issues as well, and of course the screen is just pretty small (although I dont actually mind the size. just missing TV gaming). Because of this, i am thinking about buying an OLED, but with the Switch 2 rumors, I dont want to buy one only to then either sell it for Switch 2 or just flat out not get the console. I suppose if I get one soon, I'll have enough time to actually enjoy it before replacing it...or I could just not upgrade. There's still tons of Switch titles I havent had the chance to play. Decisions, decisions.

    • @modermonkula
      @modermonkula Před 4 měsíci

      The OLED is pretty nice if you play mostly in handheld, you would be disappointed. Plus no one actually knows when switch 2 is coming nor the launch line up

  • @edittext
    @edittext Před 4 měsíci +1

    One good reason to stick with lcd would be VRR. There are challenges for VRR on an oled in a portable package. Oled laptops with VRR were shown for the first time at CES this year.

    • @slimb0b
      @slimb0b Před 4 měsíci

      What’s VRR

    • @B0B4
      @B0B4 Před 4 měsíci

      Variable Refresh Rate @@slimb0b

    • @Rainoffire
      @Rainoffire Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@slimb0bVariable Refresh Rate

    • @sharpcone
      @sharpcone Před 4 měsíci

      LTPO already goes from 1 hz to 120 hz. So VRR does not really depends on LCD. Besides, Nintendo Switch is far closer to mobile tech than laptop. You would need to see what's available there instead of laptop supply chain.

    • @Rainoffire
      @Rainoffire Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@sharpconeLTPO is kind of different from VRR, as it scales up or down to a new fixed refresh rate (1, 30, 40, 60, 120, etc). VRR is dynamic and will change constantly to match the signal of the source, games in general.

  • @johncasanas8217
    @johncasanas8217 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Super Switch just makes sense!

  • @ElJosher
    @ElJosher Před 4 měsíci +4

    I think 400 dollars is already too much. Inflation or not. So it better be worth it if it is that price.

    • @mpholicx2
      @mpholicx2 Před 4 měsíci

      Yep. It better be considerably faster and the joystick problem better be solved. I will not be buying day one. Not dealing with scalpers or day one bugs.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I agree. $400 is a lot to ask. Especially since Bidenomics has raised goods and services by 25%. Hek, even if I had no responsibilities, $400 is still high.

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial Před 4 měsíci +2

    1080p LCD makes sense to me. Then they do an OLED refresh just like with the switch. But... This is Nintendo. They are bound to try something new 😅

  • @ScaerieTale
    @ScaerieTale Před 4 měsíci

    This is super interesting. I have to wonder how many people out there are like me, who never upgraded to the new switch (I have an OG Mario Odyssey Switch), who'll be upgrading directly to the new LCD, or wait for an OLED model.
    I might actually wait, myself, at least until Switch support ends, or the Switch 2 gets that "killer app" (new Mario/Zelda probably)

  • @oceanism-
    @oceanism- Před 4 měsíci +4

    Even spawnwave isn’t above clickbaity thumbnails…
    CZcams is gross.

  • @longrua1231
    @longrua1231 Před 4 měsíci +4

    These people bitching about lcd screen act like they don't spend most of their time looking at an IPS monitor which is still LCD btw.

    • @SilverDreamweaver
      @SilverDreamweaver Před 4 měsíci +1

      I don't see how your comment is supposed to prove anything. People can't want an OLED Switch 2 because most people also own LCD displays on their laptops/monitors? Make it make sense.

    • @longrua1231
      @longrua1231 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@SilverDreamweaver Because they think the switch 2 having an lcd display is some end of the world scenario when they themselves are fine using one.

  • @zedhead90
    @zedhead90 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yeah, I was an early adopter for OG Switch. I can wait for whatever the Switch 2 has cooking.

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      I early adopted for the wii, biggest game changer cause nun chucks.. but passed on wii u and somehow i missed the bullet by a mile because wii u was the worst console. You just never know

  • @kchorro2012
    @kchorro2012 Před 4 měsíci

    Keep the 720p in handheld mode if you want but make it stable, stop with that dynamic resolution downscaling (although stable 1080p would be best), and focus on pushing 60 fps. That's all I want.

  • @1185AspAve
    @1185AspAve Před 4 měsíci

    I dont mind buying both day one and another one later for OLED or Zelda theme. Chances are Ill want one for custom firmware anyways.

  • @BowPlayKay
    @BowPlayKay Před 4 měsíci +1

    OLED is like Nintendo's pro version upgrade mid gen. I'm cool with the LCD as long as we get more frames lol

  • @BloodEdgeTrinity
    @BloodEdgeTrinity Před 4 měsíci

    Wouldn’t be surprise they announce it in Pokemon day since it’s at the end of February

  • @andrewlietz2798
    @andrewlietz2798 Před 4 měsíci

    There's also a decent slice of players who upgraded to the OLED a profit Nintendo may not have seen otherwise, along with anyone who maybe didn't care about OLED, but still got the dock fire the direct connection to the internet.
    It wouldn't shock me if we get an OLED revision for Switch 2.

  • @HondoJarrus
    @HondoJarrus Před 4 měsíci

    The current Nintendo Switch (the red box) has an LCD screen - only the OLED model has an LCD screen - so...not really a change?🤷‍♂

  • @Miguel85NYC
    @Miguel85NYC Před 4 měsíci

    Why not QLed instead of OLed?

    • @ravenebony2267
      @ravenebony2267 Před 4 měsíci

      Technically that's a type of LCD, so it's not impossible

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo Před 4 měsíci

    I really like the looks of OLED panels but I won't be mad if they ship the Super Switch with a LCD panel.
    Like... I play most of the time docked anyway, so why should I bother?

  • @matheusgenaro
    @matheusgenaro Před 4 měsíci +1

    March to November is 8 months. Switch was revealed (less than) 5 months before it launched. I still think an April reveal with end of September (Q2) launch makes more sense

    • @chaikagaz
      @chaikagaz Před 3 měsíci

      Nah closer to christmas so october

  • @lincy9114
    @lincy9114 Před 4 měsíci

    The way I look at this is even if they release the first Switch 2 with LCD screen, it still possible for Nintendo to release a more premium version OLED screen during Switch 2's life cycle, another factor is the software line up, when you see first and third party games like : Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy VII remake, Tekken 8, Xenoblade Chronicles X remaster / X2 , the next Super Mario Odyssey, Dragon's Dogma 2, Monster Hunter Wilds, Red Dead Redemption 2, Granblue Fantasy Relink etc. all slate for release on the more graphically powerful Nintendo Switch 2 in the native form, not to mention all the possible improvement coming to the original Switch games, I think that will give the players a reason to be more forgiving when it comes to the LCD screen, that my take on it.

  • @bernabemateo8156
    @bernabemateo8156 Před 4 měsíci

    Show us your gaming collection and organization.

  • @GreenTacoma44
    @GreenTacoma44 Před 4 měsíci

    The question is: Do I buy the first drop? OR Should I wait for a themed switch like zelda or metroid?

  • @Rambeard
    @Rambeard Před 4 měsíci +2

    Seeing as how I still have the launch Swich, I do not care if it is an LCD screen. It does the job for me just fine.

  • @NetBattler
    @NetBattler Před 4 měsíci

    I don't mind the hardware using LCD screen as long as it can run my battle network legacy collection....

  • @Titusofthegiant
    @Titusofthegiant Před 4 měsíci +1

    Question would you rather have high res OLED with ok battery life or Low res LCD with phenomenal battery life?

  • @josesmith617
    @josesmith617 Před 4 měsíci +1

    If base model is LCD then I’ll be waiting for the OLED. I bought the base model switch and although I really wanted the OLED, I just couldn’t justify buying it when I already had a perfectly functional console. Not gonna miss out on the nicer screen for this generation.

  • @sekazi
    @sekazi Před 4 měsíci

    What if it is a MicroLED instead of a OLED or LCD.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko Před 4 měsíci

    So they can sell you the oled version later

  • @lukaskorbela695
    @lukaskorbela695 Před 4 měsíci

    is it worth buying nintendo switch OLED or wait for switch 2?

    • @ChicagoBulls1984
      @ChicagoBulls1984 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'd just wait. The Switch is 7+ yrs old now so spend the 400 towards a system that will play both generations

    • @lukaskorbela695
      @lukaskorbela695 Před 4 měsíci

      True, yet I bought a powkiddy x55, it's not a switch, but it's not bad 😀

  • @doublecomplex4741
    @doublecomplex4741 Před 4 měsíci

    This has me debating whether I want to keep using my OLED Switch and simply wait for a more premium model to release in a few years...

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx Před 4 měsíci

    To be fair, current gen LCDs are better than the LCD used by the original Switch. Also, if you have issues with the screen on the actual system you can always dock it and play it on a TV of your choosing.
    As for the Switch 2, I'd guess that at the very least they will opt for a 1080p 60 hz display that is bigger than the current Switch OLED screen size.

  • @Cranzon-qw9od
    @Cranzon-qw9od Před 4 měsíci

    Isn't this from like 2 days ago?

  • @simhthmss
    @simhthmss Před 4 měsíci

    I don't see them not selling an oled model later on as well. I have a Switch oled, the screen looks niiiice. It'd be cool if it could dock on the switch 1 dock and use old controllers and they sold just the unit alone.

  • @edenantix1827
    @edenantix1827 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm definitely gonna wait for an OLED version to come out before I buy it, especially since the first iteration will probably launch with a bunch of technical issues just like the last switch

    • @lukaskidd4621
      @lukaskidd4621 Před 4 měsíci

      OG Switch the tablet itself is perfectly fine.

  • @nintendians
    @nintendians Před 4 měsíci

    it's okay and it might be the same size like the wii u gamepad, even if oled is not in the launch.

  • @Bitdead
    @Bitdead Před 4 měsíci

    If Nintendo are hoping to cut costs with an LCD screen, i wish they wouldve released a Switch and even release Switch 2 with a 'no screen' option for those like myself who always play docked.
    They could then minus the need for joycons too AND a dock, that would be real low entry point.

  • @fivebrosstopmos
    @fivebrosstopmos Před 4 měsíci +1

    It could be mini LCD

  • @SolarRanger_
    @SolarRanger_ Před 4 měsíci

    It’s wild that they’re going with LCD but I understand why, they’ll get more sales with that lower price point but they should at least have an option to buy the OLED next gen switch and pay that extra.

  • @helixomnibus
    @helixomnibus Před 4 měsíci

    I think nintendo will do just as sony and Microsoft when they released 2 versions of their system. But for Nintendo I think they'll release a LCD switch2 that will have dual cartridge compatibility with current gen and switch2 game cartridges. And along side that release a all digital version with oled screen.