In response to the "looks like a gun" negative: isn't that the point? The "Pro" line to cater to older demographic to not look so quirky... even the Mk2 looks more realstral/tactical with the picatiny rail and the sleeker profile that looks closer to an AR15. The only saving grace is that it's larger so the bright color is more obvious. Also the smaller/ realsteal form factor makes it unique and seems to be one of the main points in making it. 1st time to actually make a actual pistol sized blaster that fits more than 1 round internally with higher then nerf FPS standards8. I'm pretty sure that aspect drives the hype on this thing.
Yes but it's a worrying trend. China banned gel ball blasters because they looked realistic, and foam flinging has continued to exist unchallenged because they're clearly toys. If that changes it could affect the hobby detrimentally and may even see it legislated against in some places.
Excuse me, sir? Less than a 100% positive review? Do you hate Dart Zone? Is Nerf paying you off?? Thanks for giving a different take on the mk2. Your mixed feelings are the same reason why I haven’t gotten one yet. Hopefully more indoor/private fields for games will make the glaring problem with this blaster less of an issue.
One thing is that firearms have paid attention to ergonomics for about two hundred years. Since the purpose of this toy is to be held in one hand and launch a projectile in an aimed fashion, while minimizing the mass and bulk of the entire system, it's going intentionally into the territory where firearms have almost always lived. If there was another configuration which could efficiently meet those functions, firearms would already have at least tried it.
I can see where you’re coming from. Unfortunately, this is a VERY minimized blaster and as such, I’m not sure what they can change as far as form factor goes. Perhaps a brighter color, like white or baby blue? In this case though, what are your thoughts on the 3D printed blasters that share this form factor, like the Magpie or Pigeon?
So put the speed loaders so you pull down to remove them from the holster. This way the follower is always down. Put the blaster holster on your chest rig, (above your mag holders)so you can left hand draw. Problem solved.
It's going for function, like real a firearm. How do you make the most practical design NOT look like a firearm... Also... IS NO ONE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE REST OF A PERSON'S GEAR?!?! I've watched several reviews at this point and no one acknowledges that this will not be the only thing most people will carry, that includes chest/belt rigs, primaries, holsters... FREAKIN' CLOTHES! There are other ways to make yourself less conspicuous, so why does nobody who's so concerned about the silhouette mention alternatives to keeping yourself and everyone else safe...?
I really dont think you were meant to reload the speedloaders while they are holstered, especially if the instructions didnt mention anything. And as for the fact it looks like a gun... So does almost everything else in our hobby. Especially stuff back in the elite line, as the retaliatory straight up looks like a carbine
Gotta disagree with you on that. Most elite blasters look like toys. Maybe if someone is dumb enough to paint something black it could kinda look like a firearm You missed the point. This looks like a lot of real steel pistols and there's never been an obvious real steel looking blaster. This blaster looks so much like a firearm I've thought about not allowing it at local wars once we get to have wars again. Don't paint this or any other blaster black if your talking it outside, even on your own property. I want black to be gone from the hobby
@@davedoesthingsdreaded I really dont agree at all with you. This look about as real as a lot of the more realistic elite blasters, and I think that is even pushing it given how this thing is both bright orange and its slide is so ridiculously big that it goes past your wrist, which I've only seen from very specialized pistol carbine prototypes. Not allowing it at wars when many popular 3d printed blasters are more gun like then this, and even the pro MK1 is more gun like then this, seems pointless and actively would be pushing people out of the hobby. As for you wanting the color black to be gone from the hobby, unless you are taking it outside I dont like the idea of limiting people's creativity with blasters. Especially given how customization is something we have over things like airsoft
@@aidanquiett668 I agree with the slide being almost behind your wrist and that looks blocky. My main point as states was observing from a distance and i don't want to take any creativity away. That makes the hobby great but black as a prime color should not be a thing. Lots would agree on that. My opinion was not played with outside should be black. Some black maybe but black is a bit dangerous in the world we love in today. It should still look like a toy. I'm not saying take away creativity, I'm saying we have some many ways to be creative that we should avoid some dip shit thinking there saving the day when people are flinging foam. I would allow the mk2 in games if that front orange piece is attached. I'm not crapping on this blaster but it should be discussed how to be safe especially with this blaster. I feel the same about all the 3d printed blasters as well. Be safe. People don't have to agree. I'm just going by my experience and the years I've been in the hobby and have had police interaction in public wars at local parks. None have ever flew up with guns out but we also make sure our toys look like toys. The world is messed up and sometimes you have to put your own wanna be offended butt in other people's shoes and know there are cops and want to be heroes all around
Agree, when did this hobby get so freakin gun scared? Ya I said gun, deal with it. Obviously Dart Zone has done marketing and thinks it'll sell based on looks. Don't like it keep buying crappy Nerf
I understand why people may be nervous to use this in public or are upset that it looks realistic, but foam blasters are modeled after guns. What else are they? They shoot projectiles. And yes compared to Nerf toys, this is very realistic, but what else is it suppose to look like. They are toy guns that shoot foam darts, why shouldn’t they look remotely like guns. And yes, this is realistic but it comes with a HUGE BRIGHT ORANGE muzzle attachment, which informs people that this is a toy and not a firearm. So overall I’m okay with how this looks, and I don’t see a problem with the fact that it looks like a gun.
???? Drac had a very different opinion and LIKED the real steel look of it like I do. Drac does all his tests on camera, and isn’t super comprehensive because of that. Jangular clearly did a lot of testing and had his own thoughts Drac never even talked about. Jangular makes some of the most one of a kind reviews out there, so I don’t see how you could think it’s from Drac.
I agree it looks too much like a real firearm. Seeing as they include a holster they could have used any geometry. The rest of your points seem nit picky.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the muzzle extension having an impact on the darts. My very un-scientific testing of standing at the back of my yard and being able to hit my house without the muzzle, and darts falling short of my house with the muzzle on. Is rather disappointing.
I can see your point about the holster, but as a lefty, myself; who has often used right-handed holsters, it's pretty fluid to draw with right hand, and as I bring it up to low ready or something, to shift it to my main hand. Looks like a gun... ish. But you brought up a similar hobby where the guns are *made* to resemble real guns. The orange tip is enough for airsoft. Now a comparably less realistic-looking one in the colors of a cherry and orange starburst bring it dangerously close to resembling a real gun? I'm sure this is also a worry for airsoft players, depending on where they are, but airsoft remains a pretty popular sport. Honestly, i like how it kind of reminds me of a futurized version of the c93 borschardt with that elongated rear-portion, yet it loads like the old c96 Mauser. I admit, I'm a bit of a firearms enthusiast, so I might like it for all the wrong reasons 🤷♂️
I've heard the "it looks like a gun" thing a few times and I don't totally agree. I mean if it's just you and a friend then ya it's probably not a great idea to us a gun look alike. But in a public park war with more than say 20 people one or two gun like silhouettes aren't going to make that big of a different from the police's perspective if they can even pick those out amongst the people at all.
Thank you! I'm really sick of the paranoia of our blasters looking like firearms. If it's that concerning, stop playing in public parks and relocate to private fields. And yeah a handful of these at a game isn't gonna bring the cops down when everyone else is using bright obvious toy blasters. And no, not everyone is gonna have one if these at $80 a piece and selling out every five minutes.
I know. It really doesn’t look that much like a gun except in silhouette. And even then if your in a war they will know it’s a nerf war and not a shootout. And with the muzzle on it doesn’t look anything like a desert eagle or anything, nothing looks like that.
Not much more than ten percent of us are left handed. I'd pay a little extra for a converted accessory. I don't have one yet, but I expect my biggest problem with it is the look. Way way down the list under the category of "nice problems to have" is they seem to surpass 130fps too often to use in kids' games.
If there is a group of people running around with nerf guns and one guys gun looks slightly more like a real gun than the other guys guns (but is still obviously a toy) i really dont see that as an issue, you have to give people a little more credit and assume that they can tell the overall context in which you are using the blaster. Now if you took this in to a convenience store by yourself thats a completely different thing. all together.
I don’t see any reviewers having issues with the speed loader. Half the time I get the darts loading pointing straight up and I have to fish them out. I even got a replacement blaster set and it does it too. Is this another lemon?
After seeing most reviews mention the real steel silhouette I put up a poll in the Dart Zone Facebook group to gauge people's opinions seeing as I play on a private field so it won't affect me, and surprisingly the overwhelming majority of responses said they would allow it or use it in a public area. Valid points on everything else and also seems you got a lemon in velocity compared to some others.
You could put the pivoting holster to your backside and draw it like a Tanto for left handed draws, but then of course it might be painful if you fall on your butt xP
I disagree with basically everything you’ve said in this. It is all nit picky. There are many nerf guns that look like firearms. Don’t be stupid and you’ll be fine.
There's a lot of comments and discussion here, and instead of writing out a lengthy response to each one, I decided to post a video expanding on my thoughts and how I reached them to either clear up some things or give more perspective on them - czcams.com/video/Oyz5RFsFJ5w/video.html And thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts on this.
to me it depends where you play for the “realistic” look to it. if you’re going to play at private fields or arenas, it’s won’t affect you, for public areas you could find replacement grips and slides in bright colors, or print your own. people are allowed to dislike things, but the like to dislike ratio and comments show how biased people can be.
Great video. You bring up some valid points, maybe cut the slots in the back of the speed loader holster like it has in the front and I think a big ol’ knuckle duster would go a long ways to make it look less firearmy. Keep up the great work sir
There are lots of ways to make it look less like a real firearm and honestly it doesn't look so much like a firearm in the first place, that elongated slide makes it look like it's more for something like paintball along with being a bright cherry red. I mean maybe the thing I see being the bigger issue is when it's in the holster. The idea of Ambi holsters is a interesting concept, most holsters you find for Nerf applications aren't ambidextrous and sure it would be nice but that certainly isn't the most important point.I never thought to myself to try and put darts in the stripper Clips while they were holstered, I think they probably should have just not had that hole in the bottom.
People seem to not be aware the hobby is pushing or being pushed to happen on private fields where a firearm silhouette isn't a problem. Especially with people making blasters hit harder and harder, public parks are simply not gonna be an option anymore. Waivers and private fields should be required after a certain velocity. cuz at a point you've hit the same joules of airsoft and therefore should need to play those games on an airsoft field where it's monitored and safe.
And if anyone wants to fight, I did the math. A standard 1 gram dart at 150 fps has the same kinetic energy as a .2 gram airsoft bb at 350 fps. So at some point we're stepping into the territory of either hurting someone or we have to play on private fields with waivers
@@guitarman416 even on private fields a pistol that looks like a gun and blasters painted with any black paint needs to not be a thing. This dark red may look like a black pistol from a little ways out and for a hero cop or a civilian that thinks there saving the day could result it someone getting hurt. If you have a kit paint it to look like a toy. I don't think you could make the mk2 look like a toy from someone looking on. Maybe paint it bright colors with more orange. This is the most realistic blaster to date even with all the kits. None of them are that realistic unless some idiot uses black paint. This one does look like a firearm. I have and shoot real steel and even if it's not exactly like a pistol, it looks a lot like one from a hundred feet away.
@@davedoesthingsdreaded I've never heard of a cop hopping the fence of an airsoft field because they saw a gun and thoght it was real. Nice try. Try again though. And the worker stryfe kits are literally based on actual firearms. so the mk2 is not the most realistic to date including kits.
@@davedoesthingsdreaded Your point kinda seems moot when there are literally, Vector, G36, MP5, SCAR-H and probably M4 kits for the Stryfe. If you argument is that even bright colors wouldn't help with the MK2, that same rule would apply to the Stryfe kits as well. There's also the fact of the matter that most people who would be running this would more than likely run it with a primary and tactical gear that can offset the realistic aspect of this. Jang plays in tournaments with a White, neon light blue and neon light pink uniform which would definitely make a cop second guess whether the MK2 is a firearm.
Lefty definitely matters to me. I guess if it pivots far enough, I could mount this holster in the small of my back, the least comfortable place possible, sort of leaning left? Ambi safety, ambi mag release, ambi carry, these are things I look for when applicable.
I will throw this out. There is an easy way to avoid confrontation with police. Call your NON emergency number...not 911. NON EMERGENCY number for your local police or sheriffs office and tell them you are going to be in the public area having a nerf war and what time you plan to start and to finish. Then they expect the panicked call complaining there are people with guns in the park. Also then when they get the call they already know you are there and will advise the responding unit(s) that nerfers/airsofters are there and to be mindful of them. I have had instances where the officer/deputy patrolling would be sent to double check a 911 call, find us having fun.... then ask to borrow a blaster, radio in his lunch break and join in for a few rounds! A courtesy call will save you lots of grief and maybe a tragedy. If the police/sheriff do show up, STOP IMMEDIATELY, and comply with any instructions they give you and you will be fine. Also this is a 14+ blaster it should not be given to kiddos. Have fun
Looks like as far as performance goes there seems to be a good 50/50 chance of getting a MK2 that hits in the 140+ range or 110 range 🤔 definitely a QC issue somewhere
@@ihave7sacks Honestly I have a specific AF Pro dart that only hits 110s, while 3/4 of the others hit 130-150 lol but seriously there are A LOT of people that don't even break 120s with the MK2s regardless of dart
@@thehollowlingwin that's unlucky. I only got mine today and have no chrono. But when compared to MK1.1 and Nexus Pro/Aeon Pro it definitely seems on par, over 110 fps for sure. My test is with hard tipped darts, I see how far into a cardboard box or sometimes through the box depending on thickness lol.
Tell that to the Australian me who has both DZP MK1.1, MK2 and both the Nexus Pro and Aeon Pro xD And a whole heap of rival blasters too! If there is a will there is a way, also heaps of Aussie Nerf stores sell them legit in thier web stores.
You make some excellent points, sir. I wish Dart Zone would have went a little more cartoony here. At the very least, allow the blaster to be holstered with the huge orange piece attached.
You could start a new hobby of kydex holster crafting😅Has anyone thought of making some for the stranger shaped blasters?? In theory you could make it fit and hold any shape or sized objects. You can send me my cut of the new holster business😅😂Wish the muzzle was an afterburner.ThankQ.TkEZ
glad to see someone who isn’t calling this overpriced blaster (I can get three aeon pros for the price of a mk2) the “best thing to hit the hobby.” I can’t understand why everyone is in love with this blaster calling it “the best sidearm” I’m sorry but in my opinion this is far from the best. I can easily run a lepus for 30 more dollars and shoot between 6 and 20 short darts per second, or I can side run a stryfe, regulator, Hammershot, or basically any other sidearm that can be modded to be not only easier to operate but more efficient and effective. If you disagree, that’s all right, but I’m not going to spend 20-40 extra dollars when I can get something just as effective like an Aeon pro.
Holly cow batman. Seems like covid has taken your happiness away. Look at one thing that Nerf is come out with recently and compare it to the pistol. You usually are enjoyable to watch but this was such a Debbie Downer. Hopefully 2021 bring some sunlight your way. Think you need some
As a lefty myself... someone else pointed out in a different review that since this is real-steel sized, there will be six gajillion third-party lefty real-steel holsters available that will accomodate the DZP MK2. IF I get one, I'll just grab a third-party holster. Shrug.
10 minutes after release and there's already a dislike... Jangular's points are VALID! The performance is amazing and the ergonomics are better than the Ultra 3, minus the back corner of the grip for some hands! But at the same time, there are solid points made _especially_ on the blaster holster and the resemblance to real firearms, especially in low or distance perspectives. Thanks for playing devil's advocate, it won't detract me from buying a MK II, but I'll defo give it a brighter ELITE blue n' white paint job for style and safety!
I dont think I've ever seen an elite blue blaster brighter then the red they used for this tbh. I would probably do the same just cause I love the elite color scheme, but safety seems like an odd reason to do that
@@aidanquiett668 Fair point, I guess I should've clarified that I use a shade brighter than the OG blue but not to the point of sky or neon. The white and orange accents also are distinguished more by the offset of a darker cooler color.
@@Spartan412 That makes some sense. Still feel like a pure orange/red and white scheme is more useful for safety, but as long as it isnt navy blue or black you should be fine
The two caveats I have with this blaster is 1) It looks like a firearm, which in the hobby of Dart Tag, not the best for public wars. 2) It's 150 GBP including shipping to get it over the UK, F. Good luck trying to get it if you are not in NA unless you wanna pay a tonne of mula for it. But other than that, I really, really, really, want this blaster for someone who has never owned a dart zone blaster due to not being in North America.
I like the video, it tells people that not everything is a winner, but we also can look forward to a cheaper one in the tactical strike like how the nexus pro is better (in my opinion) than the dart zone mrk1 and mrk1.1
There won't be an adventure force version of this ever. It's a bit of a cash grab. Good on em for making blasters for those that don't want to mod. My prophecy is better then any of the dart zone blasters. I know the intended market is not modders or tinkerers. If you think this will be on walmart shelfs sorry to say but never gonna happen. This is going to have the same situation as the mk1.1
@@yourgrandmasgrandma8687 No he's not allowed to bitch about the best thing in the hobby this year, bar none, least not on a public platform that might make dart zone think twice about giving us cool innovative shit.
In response to the "looks like a gun" negative:
isn't that the point? The "Pro" line to cater to older demographic to not look so quirky... even the Mk2 looks more realstral/tactical with the picatiny rail and the sleeker profile that looks closer to an AR15. The only saving grace is that it's larger so the bright color is more obvious.
Also the smaller/ realsteal form factor makes it unique and seems to be one of the main points in making it. 1st time to actually make a actual pistol sized blaster that fits more than 1 round internally with higher then nerf FPS standards8. I'm pretty sure that aspect drives the hype on this thing.
Yes but it's a worrying trend. China banned gel ball blasters because they looked realistic, and foam flinging has continued to exist unchallenged because they're clearly toys. If that changes it could affect the hobby detrimentally and may even see it legislated against in some places.
Excuse me, sir? Less than a 100% positive review? Do you hate Dart Zone? Is Nerf paying you off??
Thanks for giving a different take on the mk2. Your mixed feelings are the same reason why I haven’t gotten one yet. Hopefully more indoor/private fields for games will make the glaring problem with this blaster less of an issue.
Yeah. Good to hear another side. All the other positive reviews nearly had me spending stupid money to get one shipped out of the US.
I pretty much disagree with everything you said, but each to their own.
One thing is that firearms have paid attention to ergonomics for about two hundred years.
Since the purpose of this toy is to be held in one hand and launch a projectile in an aimed fashion, while minimizing the mass and bulk of the entire system, it's going intentionally into the territory where firearms have almost always lived. If there was another configuration which could efficiently meet those functions, firearms would already have at least tried it.
Exactly what I was thinking
I can see where you’re coming from. Unfortunately, this is a VERY minimized blaster and as such, I’m not sure what they can change as far as form factor goes. Perhaps a brighter color, like white or baby blue? In this case though, what are your thoughts on the 3D printed blasters that share this form factor, like the Magpie or Pigeon?
Who tries to load the speed loader from the bottom that’s just there so that the Loader can fit when the darts or in
So put the speed loaders so you pull down to remove them from the holster. This way the follower is always down. Put the blaster holster on your chest rig, (above your mag holders)so you can left hand draw. Problem solved.
To put it simply, he doesn't want you to spend less then he did on his highly modified blaster. It doesn't look like a firearm at all.
It's going for function, like real a firearm. How do you make the most practical design NOT look like a firearm... Also... IS NO ONE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE REST OF A PERSON'S GEAR?!?!
I've watched several reviews at this point and no one acknowledges that this will not be the only thing most people will carry, that includes chest/belt rigs, primaries, holsters... FREAKIN' CLOTHES! There are other ways to make yourself less conspicuous, so why does nobody who's so concerned about the silhouette mention alternatives to keeping yourself and everyone else safe...?
I really dont think you were meant to reload the speedloaders while they are holstered, especially if the instructions didnt mention anything. And as for the fact it looks like a gun... So does almost everything else in our hobby. Especially stuff back in the elite line, as the retaliatory straight up looks like a carbine
Gotta disagree with you on that. Most elite blasters look like toys. Maybe if someone is dumb enough to paint something black it could kinda look like a firearm
You missed the point. This looks like a lot of real steel pistols and there's never been an obvious real steel looking blaster.
This blaster looks so much like a firearm I've thought about not allowing it at local wars once we get to have wars again.
Don't paint this or any other blaster black if your talking it outside, even on your own property. I want black to be gone from the hobby
@@davedoesthingsdreaded I really dont agree at all with you. This look about as real as a lot of the more realistic elite blasters, and I think that is even pushing it given how this thing is both bright orange and its slide is so ridiculously big that it goes past your wrist, which I've only seen from very specialized pistol carbine prototypes. Not allowing it at wars when many popular 3d printed blasters are more gun like then this, and even the pro MK1 is more gun like then this, seems pointless and actively would be pushing people out of the hobby. As for you wanting the color black to be gone from the hobby, unless you are taking it outside I dont like the idea of limiting people's creativity with blasters. Especially given how customization is something we have over things like airsoft
@@aidanquiett668 I agree with the slide being almost behind your wrist and that looks blocky. My main point as states was observing from a distance and i don't want to take any creativity away. That makes the hobby great but black as a prime color should not be a thing. Lots would agree on that. My opinion was not played with outside should be black. Some black maybe but black is a bit dangerous in the world we love in today. It should still look like a toy. I'm not saying take away creativity, I'm saying we have some many ways to be creative that we should avoid some dip shit thinking there saving the day when people are flinging foam. I would allow the mk2 in games if that front orange piece is attached.
I'm not crapping on this blaster but it should be discussed how to be safe especially with this blaster. I feel the same about all the 3d printed blasters as well. Be safe.
People don't have to agree. I'm just going by my experience and the years I've been in the hobby and have had police interaction in public wars at local parks. None have ever flew up with guns out but we also make sure our toys look like toys.
The world is messed up and sometimes you have to put your own wanna be offended butt in other people's shoes and know there are cops and want to be heroes all around
Agree, when did this hobby get so freakin gun scared?
Ya I said gun, deal with it.
Obviously Dart Zone has done marketing and thinks it'll sell based on looks.
Don't like it keep buying crappy Nerf
@@davedoesthingsdreaded So does the sharp fire, the night finder, and so on. Don’t be stupid and you’ll be fine.
Guess Mr Jangular will be happy with Hasbro's next lineup of glued together Dinosaur themed blasters . . .
I understand why people may be nervous to use this in public or are upset that it looks realistic, but foam blasters are modeled after guns. What else are they? They shoot projectiles. And yes compared to Nerf toys, this is very realistic, but what else is it suppose to look like. They are toy guns that shoot foam darts, why shouldn’t they look remotely like guns. And yes, this is realistic but it comes with a HUGE BRIGHT ORANGE muzzle attachment, which informs people that this is a toy and not a firearm. So overall I’m okay with how this looks, and I don’t see a problem with the fact that it looks like a gun.
Hmmm 🤔 this review seemed like it was DRAC reviewing a Nerf blaster. 🧐
???? Drac had a very different opinion and LIKED the real steel look of it like I do. Drac does all his tests on camera, and isn’t super comprehensive because of that. Jangular clearly did a lot of testing and had his own thoughts Drac never even talked about. Jangular makes some of the most one of a kind reviews out there, so I don’t see how you could think it’s from Drac.
I agree it looks too much like a real firearm. Seeing as they include a holster they could have used any geometry. The rest of your points seem nit picky.
So do many nerf guns. It ain’t a problem. Don’t be stupid and you’ll be fine.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the muzzle extension having an impact on the darts.
My very un-scientific testing of standing at the back of my yard and being able to hit my house without the muzzle, and darts falling short of my house with the muzzle on. Is rather disappointing.
I can see your point about the holster, but as a lefty, myself; who has often used right-handed holsters, it's pretty fluid to draw with right hand, and as I bring it up to low ready or something, to shift it to my main hand.
Looks like a gun... ish. But you brought up a similar hobby where the guns are *made* to resemble real guns. The orange tip is enough for airsoft. Now a comparably less realistic-looking one in the colors of a cherry and orange starburst bring it dangerously close to resembling a real gun? I'm sure this is also a worry for airsoft players, depending on where they are, but airsoft remains a pretty popular sport. Honestly, i like how it kind of reminds me of a futurized version of the c93 borschardt with that elongated rear-portion, yet it loads like the old c96 Mauser. I admit, I'm a bit of a firearms enthusiast, so I might like it for all the wrong reasons 🤷♂️
Contraversial title. Interesting
Nice profile pic 👍🤣
@@Luke_212 glad you like
I've heard the "it looks like a gun" thing a few times and I don't totally agree. I mean if it's just you and a friend then ya it's probably not a great idea to us a gun look alike. But in a public park war with more than say 20 people one or two gun like silhouettes aren't going to make that big of a different from the police's perspective if they can even pick those out amongst the people at all.
Thank you! I'm really sick of the paranoia of our blasters looking like firearms. If it's that concerning, stop playing in public parks and relocate to private fields. And yeah a handful of these at a game isn't gonna bring the cops down when everyone else is using bright obvious toy blasters. And no, not everyone is gonna have one if these at $80 a piece and selling out every five minutes.
"That guy is holding a gun!"
"But... it's bright red and orange and is shooting slow green bullets."
"Taze him anyway!"
I know. It really doesn’t look that much like a gun except in silhouette. And even then if your in a war they will know it’s a nerf war and not a shootout. And with the muzzle on it doesn’t look anything like a desert eagle or anything, nothing looks like that.
Not much more than ten percent of us are left handed. I'd pay a little extra for a converted accessory. I don't have one yet, but I expect my biggest problem with it is the look. Way way down the list under the category of "nice problems to have" is they seem to surpass 130fps too often to use in kids' games.
Greehas is listening
If there is a group of people running around with nerf guns and one guys gun looks slightly more like a real gun than the other guys guns (but is still obviously a toy) i really dont see that as an issue, you have to give people a little more credit and assume that they can tell the overall context in which you are using the blaster. Now if you took this in to a convenience store by yourself thats a completely different thing. all together.
I don’t see any reviewers having issues with the speed loader.
Half the time I get the darts loading pointing straight up and I have to fish them out. I even got a replacement blaster set and it does it too.
Is this another lemon?
I don't get the gun thing. It's bright red!
When seen in good light.
I mean to be fair cops have shot people holding cell phones
@@skirmishcustoms2595 In which country?
@@jetfuelcantmeltdankmemes8238 take a wild guess
@@skirmishcustoms2595 gotta be Greenland, the ice people are crazy. but for real, usa?
After seeing most reviews mention the real steel silhouette I put up a poll in the Dart Zone Facebook group to gauge people's opinions seeing as I play on a private field so it won't affect me, and surprisingly the overwhelming majority of responses said they would allow it or use it in a public area.
Valid points on everything else and also seems you got a lemon in velocity compared to some others.
You could put the pivoting holster to your backside and draw it like a Tanto for left handed draws, but then of course it might be painful if you fall on your butt xP
That is the classic pro/con of the small of the back holster position. :)
It's also painful if you have to bend over, or any kind of torso twist, or lean your back against anything.
You could also carry it cavalry draw style.
@@itsagundam79 I've never had any of those problems.
(Perhaps we have different body types?)
I disagree with basically everything you’ve said in this. It is all nit picky. There are many nerf guns that look like firearms. Don’t be stupid and you’ll be fine.
There's a lot of comments and discussion here, and instead of writing out a lengthy response to each one, I decided to post a video expanding on my thoughts and how I reached them to either clear up some things or give more perspective on them - czcams.com/video/Oyz5RFsFJ5w/video.html
And thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts on this.
to me it depends where you play for the “realistic” look to it. if you’re going to play at private fields or arenas, it’s won’t affect you, for public areas you could find replacement grips and slides in bright colors, or print your own.
people are allowed to dislike things, but the like to dislike ratio and comments show how biased people can be.
Great video. You bring up some valid points, maybe cut the slots in the back of the speed loader holster like it has in the front and I think a big ol’ knuckle duster would go a long ways to make it look less firearmy. Keep up the great work sir
Jang
Awesome look at the DZP Mk2.
Thanks for the great opinion on this new blaster. Love the videos keep up the great work.
Great video thank you.
There are lots of ways to make it look less like a real firearm and honestly it doesn't look so much like a firearm in the first place, that elongated slide makes it look like it's more for something like paintball along with being a bright cherry red. I mean maybe the thing I see being the bigger issue is when it's in the holster. The idea of Ambi holsters is a interesting concept, most holsters you find for Nerf applications aren't ambidextrous and sure it would be nice but that certainly isn't the most important point.I never thought to myself to try and put darts in the stripper Clips while they were holstered, I think they probably should have just not had that hole in the bottom.
People seem to not be aware the hobby is pushing or being pushed to happen on private fields where a firearm silhouette isn't a problem. Especially with people making blasters hit harder and harder, public parks are simply not gonna be an option anymore. Waivers and private fields should be required after a certain velocity. cuz at a point you've hit the same joules of airsoft and therefore should need to play those games on an airsoft field where it's monitored and safe.
And if anyone wants to fight, I did the math. A standard 1 gram dart at 150 fps has the same kinetic energy as a .2 gram airsoft bb at 350 fps. So at some point we're stepping into the territory of either hurting someone or we have to play on private fields with waivers
Also never saw Jang complain about Stryfe kits or any other kits that make blasters literally imitate real firearms. Just saying
@@guitarman416 even on private fields a pistol that looks like a gun and blasters painted with any black paint needs to not be a thing. This dark red may look like a black pistol from a little ways out and for a hero cop or a civilian that thinks there saving the day could result it someone getting hurt.
If you have a kit paint it to look like a toy. I don't think you could make the mk2 look like a toy from someone looking on. Maybe paint it bright colors with more orange.
This is the most realistic blaster to date even with all the kits. None of them are that realistic unless some idiot uses black paint. This one does look like a firearm. I have and shoot real steel and even if it's not exactly like a pistol, it looks a lot like one from a hundred feet away.
@@davedoesthingsdreaded I've never heard of a cop hopping the fence of an airsoft field because they saw a gun and thoght it was real. Nice try. Try again though. And the worker stryfe kits are literally based on actual firearms. so the mk2 is not the most realistic to date including kits.
@@davedoesthingsdreaded Your point kinda seems moot when there are literally, Vector, G36, MP5, SCAR-H and probably M4 kits for the Stryfe. If you argument is that even bright colors wouldn't help with the MK2, that same rule would apply to the Stryfe kits as well. There's also the fact of the matter that most people who would be running this would more than likely run it with a primary and tactical gear that can offset the realistic aspect of this. Jang plays in tournaments with a White, neon light blue and neon light pink uniform which would definitely make a cop second guess whether the MK2 is a firearm.
Lefty definitely matters to me. I guess if it pivots far enough, I could mount this holster in the small of my back, the least comfortable place possible, sort of leaning left? Ambi safety, ambi mag release, ambi carry, these are things I look for when applicable.
I will throw this out. There is an easy way to avoid confrontation with police. Call your NON emergency number...not 911. NON EMERGENCY number for your local police or sheriffs office and tell them you are going to be in the public area having a nerf war and what time you plan to start and to finish. Then they expect the panicked call complaining there are people with guns in the park. Also then when they get the call they already know you are there and will advise the responding unit(s) that nerfers/airsofters are there and to be mindful of them. I have had instances where the officer/deputy patrolling would be sent to double check a 911 call, find us having fun.... then ask to borrow a blaster, radio in his lunch break and join in for a few rounds! A courtesy call will save you lots of grief and maybe a tragedy. If the police/sheriff do show up, STOP IMMEDIATELY, and comply with any instructions they give you and you will be fine. Also this is a 14+ blaster it should not be given to kiddos.
Have fun
Looks like as far as performance goes there seems to be a good 50/50 chance of getting a MK2 that hits in the 140+ range or 110 range 🤔 definitely a QC issue somewhere
Depends what darts you're firing. Unless you saw someone getting 110 with DZP or AF Pro darts?
@@ihave7sacks Honestly I have a specific AF Pro dart that only hits 110s, while 3/4 of the others hit 130-150 lol but seriously there are A LOT of people that don't even break 120s with the MK2s regardless of dart
@@thehollowlingwin that's unlucky.
I only got mine today and have no chrono.
But when compared to MK1.1 and Nexus Pro/Aeon Pro it definitely seems on par, over 110 fps for sure.
My test is with hard tipped darts, I see how far into a cardboard box or sometimes through the box depending on thickness lol.
The gun silhouette would be less of a problem in some other countries. Unfortunately it's only available in the US.
Tell that to the Australian me who has both DZP MK1.1, MK2 and both the Nexus Pro and Aeon Pro xD
And a whole heap of rival blasters too!
If there is a will there is a way, also heaps of Aussie Nerf stores sell them legit in thier web stores.
@@ihave7sacks that's great. No such luck in Japan. I have imported a few blasters from the US but the shipping and package forwarding hurts.
Good designs should not be limited out of fear.
Finally someone with common sense! Yes I agree that mk2 shouldnt be used in public park games
For Lefties - it's just a cavalry draw / twist draw / reverse draw Just have to thing like a gun fighter
You make some excellent points, sir. I wish Dart Zone would have went a little more cartoony here. At the very least, allow the blaster to be holstered with the huge orange piece attached.
Or even kept the aesthetics similar to the Nexus and aeon
You could start a new hobby of kydex holster crafting😅Has anyone thought of making some for the stranger shaped blasters?? In theory you could make it fit and hold any shape or sized objects. You can send me my cut of the new holster business😅😂Wish the muzzle was an afterburner.ThankQ.TkEZ
A new colorful side grip practically solves 60% of the issue.
I have a feeling there will be a DZ Mk 2.1 that fixes most of these problems.
glad to see someone who isn’t calling this overpriced blaster (I can get three aeon pros for the price of a mk2) the “best thing to hit the hobby.” I can’t understand why everyone is in love with this blaster calling it “the best sidearm” I’m sorry but in my opinion this is far from the best. I can easily run a lepus for 30 more dollars and shoot between 6 and 20 short darts per second, or I can side run a stryfe, regulator, Hammershot, or basically any other sidearm that can be modded to be not only easier to operate but more efficient and effective. If you disagree, that’s all right, but I’m not going to spend 20-40 extra dollars when I can get something just as effective like an Aeon pro.
TLDR of the "issues" It's kind of expensive, it looks like a firearm, and there are a few habits that need changing/developing.
Holly cow batman.
Seems like covid has taken your happiness away.
Look at one thing that Nerf is come out with recently and compare it to the pistol.
You usually are enjoyable to watch but this was such a Debbie Downer.
Hopefully 2021 bring some sunlight your way. Think you need some
Only 10% of people are left-handed..so F'em.
As a lefty myself... someone else pointed out in a different review that since this is real-steel sized, there will be six gajillion third-party lefty real-steel holsters available that will accomodate the DZP MK2. IF I get one, I'll just grab a third-party holster. Shrug.
10 minutes after release and there's already a dislike...
Jangular's points are VALID!
The performance is amazing and the ergonomics are better than the Ultra 3, minus the back corner of the grip for some hands! But at the same time, there are solid points made _especially_ on the blaster holster and the resemblance to real firearms, especially in low or distance perspectives.
Thanks for playing devil's advocate, it won't detract me from buying a MK II, but I'll defo give it a brighter ELITE blue n' white paint job for style and safety!
I dont think I've ever seen an elite blue blaster brighter then the red they used for this tbh. I would probably do the same just cause I love the elite color scheme, but safety seems like an odd reason to do that
@@aidanquiett668 Fair point, I guess I should've clarified that I use a shade brighter than the OG blue but not to the point of sky or neon. The white and orange accents also are distinguished more by the offset of a darker cooler color.
@@Spartan412 That makes some sense. Still feel like a pure orange/red and white scheme is more useful for safety, but as long as it isnt navy blue or black you should be fine
I love the title!
The two caveats I have with this blaster is
1) It looks like a firearm, which in the hobby of Dart Tag, not the best for public wars.
2) It's 150 GBP including shipping to get it over the UK, F. Good luck trying to get it if you are not in NA unless you wanna pay a tonne of mula for it.
But other than that, I really, really, really, want this blaster for someone who has never owned a dart zone blaster due to not being in North America.
All youtubers is so picky. It is the best pistol ever. Just use the supressor and stop crying because the handle looks like a Gun.
it’s almost as if other people don’t have to agree with everything you do.
I like the video, it tells people that not everything is a winner, but we also can look forward to a cheaper one in the tactical strike like how the nexus pro is better (in my opinion) than the dart zone mrk1 and mrk1.1
They aren't making a adventure force version and if they were it already happened with the aeon
@@samuelhassett6645 the aeon is a completely different blaster than the mrk2, but we'll have to wait and see I guess
There won't be an adventure force version of this ever. It's a bit of a cash grab. Good on em for making blasters for those that don't want to mod. My prophecy is better then any of the dart zone blasters. I know the intended market is not modders or tinkerers.
If you think this will be on walmart shelfs sorry to say but never gonna happen. This is going to have the same situation as the mk1.1
Drac already has a slide for it im pretty sure
I think he actually has several options. Guy really likes this platform
he has more cons than pros intresting
Seems like your complaining a lot
Do you reload bullets in a magazine holster in a real gun? This "review" is honestly just nit picking with a clickbait title.
Yeah, this video seems like it’s just him trying to think of excuses for not liking an amazing blaster.
@@ashhinman1919 is he not allowed to not like it?
@@yourgrandmasgrandma8687 No he's not allowed to bitch about the best thing in the hobby this year, bar none, least not on a public platform that might make dart zone think twice about giving us cool innovative shit.