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  • @tazzz1783
    @tazzz1783 Před rokem +30

    ''You know your car is fast, when in the morning you are scared to unlock it'' - Rohl for that iconic Audi Quattro

  • @MartinHardi
    @MartinHardi Před rokem +164

    The Sport Quattro is tuned down to keep it longer lasting for the future. They had around 550-600 hp in race trim. The most powerfull version was the Pikes Peak, I'm not sure, but I think it had a bunch more. There is in Germany the company LCE Performance, they can build you one with 700 Hp and more from scratch. The Sport Quattro which owns Ken Block now was originally the masterpiece and show car from LCE Performance.

    • @alpher8962
      @alpher8962 Před rokem +11

      Pikes Peak had 600hp and for the hill climbs after that they used 650 -700 hp

    • @MartinHardi
      @MartinHardi Před rokem +2

      @@alpher8962 And the sexiest set of Wings :D

    • @oldlud8971
      @oldlud8971 Před rokem +1

      Not necessarily tuned down. This is the car that did the 1985 RAC so power figure might be correct

    • @MartinHardi
      @MartinHardi Před rokem +8

      @@oldlud8971 I know from a interview from Audi tradition that they going down with boost, that the engines are not on their limit. They want to preserve the car for future generations.

    • @loneponderer495
      @loneponderer495 Před rokem

      @@oldlud8971 As Martin said it is tuned down. More so then in this video usually. They keep it in their musuem. You can see it in a video a few months back they made with Ken Block who is now driving for them.

  • @superbrit3845
    @superbrit3845 Před rokem +71

    You have to consider that the S1 can do the same speed on gravel plus even at 130+mph the S1 was still pulling ahead. Given that the S1 is 37 years old just goes to show how far Group B was ahead of it's time plus just how amazing the engineers that created these cars were and how incredibly talented the drivers were to drive these flat out on single track roads at 140mph+

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 Před rokem

      Modern launch controll is just brutal... the S1 proboby cant use all its horse power untill its well past 100k

    • @spartan9458
      @spartan9458 Před rokem +2

      @@matsv201 As someone who drives a 2007 Volvo S60R with a 6 speed manual (2.5L 5 Cyl with a turbo), it is really hard to beat other drivers in a short drag if they have a similar power configuration and AWD but with an automatic that is decently modern. Even against another S60R or V70R.
      That Rally driver did some fantastic launches considering.
      It's really easy to either dump the clutch too fast and bog the engine down, or feather the clutch too much and burn your clutch instead of just punching the car out of the gate so to speak.
      Getting it right is one of the best feelings you can have driving a car though.

    • @spartan9458
      @spartan9458 Před rokem

      I also should add, I don't know the exact torque curve on the Quattro's, but my 2007 S60R gets max torque at 1850 RPM, which makes it almost impossible to suffer turbo lag beyond maybe a half-second at any speed or gear. I was pretty confident there wouldn't be much turbo lag when the guy tried to get him with lag in gear 2, though I had some doubts in gear 3 and was surprised at how much lead he got verses the gear 2 starts.
      I suppose the lighter weight and greater power really showed there in that lower RPM match start.
      Also, it's impressive how fast it went despite the massive wing on the back, those things add so much drag at high speeds verses a slick car.

  • @TheNismo777
    @TheNismo777 Před rokem +56

    Back when the 205 t16 retired, it was put into dyno and produced over 600.. instead of "official 450" Lancia did tests with 5 bar of boost and made over a thousand hp

    • @maniac6666
      @maniac6666 Před rokem +1

      5 bars of boost is crazy

    • @olivierdk2
      @olivierdk2 Před rokem +5

      @@maniac6666 The 205 1.9 was a great car to drive.

    • @_Professor_Oak
      @_Professor_Oak Před rokem +1

      70psi? That's hilarious, it wouldn't last one rally stage lol

    • @TheNismo777
      @TheNismo777 Před rokem +3

      @@_Professor_Oak thats why it was only testing

    • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese
      @sometimesidreamaboutcheese Před rokem +5

      @@_Professor_Oak but at Olympus rally in 1986 Markku Alen had 750HP at his Lancia Delta S4 as he said himself.

  • @KarILsson
    @KarILsson Před rokem +14

    The Audi Sport Quattro S1E2 in 1985 generated an officially quoted power output of 473 hp but actual power figure was in excess of 493 hp at 8000 rpm, the final factory cars of 1986 had about 592 hp and in 1987 Group B was banned.

    • @headofmyself5663
      @headofmyself5663 Před rokem +2

      The last iteration of the E2 in 1986 had also a sequentiell PDK gearbox. The data sheet of the car RE15 shows 2.8 sec from 0-100km/h. I saw this car in Wolfsburg some years ago. I believe it is from Walters personal collection and was a gift from Audi at the end of his career, before he was departuring to Porsche.

    • @signolias100
      @signolias100 Před rokem

      they did detune this specific sport quattro s1 to something like 300hp

    • @KarILsson
      @KarILsson Před rokem

      The road car (homologation version) had 302 hp.

  • @eatthisvr6
    @eatthisvr6 Před rokem +21

    They OFFICIALLY had 500 hp but it was easy to turn the boost up lol. There's a story of putting an rs200 on an 800 hp dyno and breaking it!!

    • @zelrod9280
      @zelrod9280 Před rokem +2

      There was also some Lancia DELTA that were pushed to 600 and 800 hp but they incontrollable

    • @vio-lence7267
      @vio-lence7267 Před rokem +3

      @@zelrod9280 markku aléns delta s4 did 750 hp 👍

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 Před rokem

      Its always a storry about someone breaking the dyno... but after i seen a tuned Koenigsegg en the dyno with over 2000hp..im a bit skeptcal

    • @eatthisvr6
      @eatthisvr6 Před rokem +1

      @@matsv201 dynos arnt all the same you know

    • @local_hotpotato
      @local_hotpotato Před 4 měsíci

      Didnt the lancia S4 break a dyno aswell?

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer Před rokem +21

    The 5 cyl engines all had a great sound. Also the series vehicles. The B3 and C3 mid 80's (1985 onwards I think) models were hot dip galvanized and many still drive with history plates and still look great. This is due to the 144° ignition interval, with no piston running in sync with another. Whether Volvo, Audi or Mercedes. Even the diesel engines were great.
    A Mercedes 5 cyl diesel in a taxi covers a million kilometers.

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před rokem +1

      We have a fleet of Merc Sprinter taxi buses for wheelchairs, some of them have over 400,000km on them. Still run great, even with sparse maintenance.

    • @spartan9458
      @spartan9458 Před rokem +1

      I Absolutely LOVE 5 Cylinder engines. My first Car was a 1998 Volvo V70 T5 with a 2.3 Turbo and that thing was angry sounding as heck. My father called it the "Rocket Sled" as it basically looked like a sled box, but holy crap it was fast.
      I was highly fortunate to get my hands on a 2007 S60R with a 6 speed manual. I cant' get over it it's so amazing . I'm past 158k miles on it and it still runs like new, the engine is super reliable too. (unfortunately the previous 4 owners didn't take such good care of it and I had to replace the entire gearbox and clutch assembly, makes me wonder what they did to it, cause I've done my own share of mess ups and it didn't care.)
      I have to say also, It's SO hard to even match good automatics on launch with a manual. Seriously. I found a good middle ground but if I try to straight go for broke I either clutch dump too early and bog the engine down, or I barbecue the clutch.
      That said, when you do get a perfect launch with a manual, it's one of the most satisfying things you can do with a car.

    • @SarcastSempervirens
      @SarcastSempervirens Před rokem

      @@spartan9458 Aaaaahhh, the T5, a legend, had it, it was like driving a Formula 1 tank!

    • @SarcastSempervirens
      @SarcastSempervirens Před rokem

      Can atest to that, my friends 5cyl Merc currently has 1.2 million kilometers, driven as a taxi car. It's not all from the city, some highway rides, but still.. find me an engine that goes like three times to the Moon.

  • @eatthisvr6
    @eatthisvr6 Před rokem +10

    The dsg box makes a MASSIVE difference on the quarter

  • @johnmathisen1167
    @johnmathisen1167 Před rokem +6

    It’s amazing how far cars have been improved over the years, give me the 70s beasts any day,can’t stop and can’t handle but a great thing to drive.

    • @roknroller6052
      @roknroller6052 Před rokem

      Drink the Kool-Aid Lmao, this is staged nonsense

    • @santanamauricio
      @santanamauricio Před rokem +2

      haha can't stop and handle but a great drive. I like my cars to stop and handle

  • @jacksmith4460
    @jacksmith4460 Před rokem +6

    "there's no replacement for displacement" whomever said this must have not heard of Group B or F1,
    500 HP out of a 5 cyl turbo charged 2.1.......or in F1's case over 1000HP out of a turbo charged 1.5 L engine...crazy

    • @enlightendbel
      @enlightendbel Před rokem

      One of the recent Pikes Peak cars was a 2L V4 with over a 1000bhp.

    • @T0mB1ll
      @T0mB1ll Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/I1MZsQ2Ck7g/video.html check the channel for his Golf mk2 with 1200hp..

  • @waynester71
    @waynester71 Před rokem +4

    Given the low gearing and massive aero…that S1 was spectacular! Proper rally car..👌🏼😎

  • @marcinmichalski1438
    @marcinmichalski1438 Před rokem +4

    You have no idea how much smile it has put on my face mate😁 I have watched Matt's vids for a long while now, and seeing you reacting to this is amazing!!!! Also he does have great rally cars vs drags on his channel. I'll try send a link in a minute 👍

  • @hugovilag
    @hugovilag Před rokem +2

    Keep in mind these cars are no longer pushing the numbers they did back in the day for the shake of preserving the components. In race trim the Quattro got to record an official ~590hp, keyword "official"; remember Lancia, Peugeot and Ford recorded way less official power figures, but we all know that no one with turbo and AWD pushed less than 550 to 600 hp in a good day, those were the days!.
    Now on my own experience I got to see almost every Group B car throughout some events, in fact all but the Peugeot 205 T16 E2, and let me tell you, the Delta S4 and Quattro S1E2 look MENACING, they are RAW. Got to see them together at Vigo and even turned off and standing still look like they're out to eat you alive. The Quattro from the front is almost scary to stare at, can't even imagine what was like to see one at full chat coming at you.

  • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese

    Brakes was probably the weakest part of Group B bolides. Literally all top-pilots of Delta S4 complained about that "it was absolutely monster, but no brakes", Markku Alen always said that after left foot braking brakes could literally gone.
    Actually, Hannu Mikkola drove that Audi Quattro S1 E2 with water cooling brakes at Finland stages (and you can notice that because of white "smoke" after the car). czcams.com/video/FwdOw1rjmBk/video.html - here is epic documentary about these his runs in Finland.
    Here we have short video ( czcams.com/video/Fn2vHxvFOXY/video.html )about modern brakes and there says about water cooling brakes. Imagine that : Group B already had water cooling brakes almost 40 years ago. Porsche 959 already had ABS and digital suspension height adjustment or tyre pressure monitoring. well, etc, there was a lot of innovations.

    • @vintageman91
      @vintageman91 Před rokem

      They had mad acceleration and decent grip,
      but the brakes was not the best, hard to handle of course and also they could not use the handbrake so tight corners on tarmac was a weak spot for the 4wd group b cars.
      You could see that at the tightest corners of corsica that they had to either slow down significantly and hug the outside of the corner as mutch as possible or do a 3 point turn.

    • @sometimesidreamaboutcheese
      @sometimesidreamaboutcheese Před rokem

      @@vintageman91 yes, because of early developement of central differential, when using handbrake during rolling could literally stop all 4 wheels. But this techological disadvantage was already done during 87 year, so it was already under developement to be in the bolides of Group B or Group S. (but greed of FIA headquarters did not let that happens)
      About grip: actually some of these cars (not Quattro) had extremely good mechanical grip. It could be noticed even during Lancia Delta S4 tests in 1984 (we have video footage in youtube). Or with 205T16 in late rallycross series. And we have nowadays evidence of that into european hillclimb series like Swiss Hillclimbs, where some of Delta S4 are still competetive.

  • @rasmuswi
    @rasmuswi Před rokem +6

    Group B would certainly have been 800+ hp had it been given another year. Lancia had an S4 with twin turbos and a supercharger ready for 1987, but AFAIK it was never raced in any event, not even Pikes Peak.
    Also I wonder if Audi had a mid engine car underway, as soon as the first 205 Turbo 16 entered a rally it was evident that having the engine in the front wasn't going to cut it.

    • @theant9821
      @theant9821 Před rokem +1

      Audi Sport was develping a mid engined Quattro in secret (from the big wigs at audi) but it was found oud and the bosses said no, Audi was in rallying to promote the Quattro and didnt agree with following Peugoet and Lancia route of building a complete special just for rallying.
      Notice how of all the Group B homologation specials, the Sport quattro is the only one that could realisticly be used as a daily road car.

  • @korfak
    @korfak Před rokem +5

    Actually the RS3 sounds beautiful, its just the limiter i think from neutral, but if you goes full on throttle, its beautiful, with an exhaust sounds so similar to the S1 old car.

  • @AssettoRacerGR
    @AssettoRacerGR Před rokem +6

    I really enjoyed this video once again like all of them 👍 Even as a car guy, I like a lot your other videos that are not based on Motorsports because you always make them so enjoyable with your reactions and funny comments. I hope to see more of these in the future!
    Also for Motorsports video i suggest you watching the "This is Motorsports 4" Video by Mr. M
    Its his latest video on that series and once again it has amazing clips.

  • @realQuiGon
    @realQuiGon Před rokem +10

    They should have compared them on gravel! 😁

  • @Prof.Dr.Diagnose
    @Prof.Dr.Diagnose Před rokem +7

    Carwow has quite a lot of very interesting drag races. You should definitely try the one with a Bugatti Chiron and a Red Bull F1 car. Very entertaining, i promise😉

  • @21GUILHERME21
    @21GUILHERME21 Před rokem +16

    Might be biased since i've been following carwow for years now, but you should react to more of their videos. They do tons of (very interesting) drag races

    • @roknroller6052
      @roknroller6052 Před rokem

      They’re trash, being European I wouldn’t trust any channels here, The technological, environmental, political propaganda is insane. All these channels are just advertisements, staged. Even though the Group b won you can tell how sluggish it was, I seen these and Delta s4 destroy Lamborghini hurricanes and hyper cars

    • @21GUILHERME21
      @21GUILHERME21 Před rokem

      @@roknroller6052 first of all you are absolutely mad if tou really believe in what you have just written. How delusional does someone have to be to think that a bunch of dudes going in a straight line is just propaganda. Secondly, the rs3 in the video has the exact same 0-60 time of a base model huracan (not hurricane) so obviously , its not a surprise it would also lose to a group b car. A rally car is basically a racecar you see on any asphalt track, the only issue they have is the lack of grip on dirt and snow rally stages. Given proper traction on asphalt , you best believe they are fast going in a straight line. Also, the “sluggishness” you were talking about comes down to it being a manual transmission and not a dual clutch automatic one.

    • @roknroller6052
      @roknroller6052 Před rokem

      @@21GUILHERME21... All these channels are just advertisements, staged. Even though the Group b won you can tell how sluggish it was, I seen these and Delta s4 destroy Lamborghini hurricanes and hyper cars
      Put it this way the New 600-650hp Hill climb Monster Lost to this Walters Group-b Quattro S1. if you want times you’ll need to research. czcams.com/video/bg9l-weFiU4/video.html .. Therefore this RS road car would have to be faster than Audis new Hillclimb monster, Lmao. That Carwow channel is nonsense like top gear even though TG is very entertaining , fifth gear, they all push a narrative, and that propagating of misinformation is whats propaganda
      czcams.com/video/ixhVY2ZJV2E/video.html Group B Quattro S1 vs Porsche hillclimb GT2 997
      czcams.com/video/XkiR5t65htI/video.html Poor quality video Delta S4 vs Lamborghini
      If you have any level of perception, You would instantly know this> acceleration. S1 czcams.com/video/u5E-bizxdB4/video.html and this Delta S4 czcams.com/video/ZXzkkGqv9Es/video.html .. Is Very different level from what Car Wows staged video shows
      There’s almost an infinite amount of stupid people, Like you. and I have a life so, Believe what you want I don’t care!

  • @module79l28
    @module79l28 Před rokem +1

    Don't judge how new sport cars sound by these soundchecks, the large majority have soft limiters that don't allow you to rev the engine while stationary.

  • @stevegraham3817
    @stevegraham3817 Před rokem +1

    40 year old brakes behind 15" wheels, maybe 11" diameter, compared to 1 week old brakes behind 18 or 19" wheels at something like 14 or 15" in diameter. I'm sure the pad area would be much much greater in the modern vehicle as well.
    In saying that, the 40 year old brakes were designed for 1000km, the modern one designed for 100,000km.

  • @rahansk8200
    @rahansk8200 Před rokem

    well regulated, on a bench. a driver measured 770 hp on his group B Audi model.
    unofficially more than 500 hp, but at the time the power banks were manually adjusted and the power was measured at 3500 rpm... In short, there was a bit dark part at the time... Example for save weight, some have replaced the roll bars with painted cardboard tubes in 80' etc etc...

  • @acetuned5242
    @acetuned5242 Před rokem +2

    Pikes peak version was around the 700bhp I believe. Peugeot made a 406 pikes peak to beat the Audi up the mountain and that's one hell of a machine as well, was developed off the back of the 205t group b, it's worth a check out

  • @TheGraudins
    @TheGraudins Před rokem

    Clarkson z'n Favoriete Rally Battle: 1983 Audi Quattro VS. Lancia 037 Is a really cool video of a best group B battle ever

  • @garyhewitt489
    @garyhewitt489 Před rokem +1

    GroupB went completely nuts just before they were banned.
    Can't remember the numbers but they were producing awesome bhp at the end.
    A lot of former groupB's were used n Rallycross and that's well worth a watch.

  • @steveo6944
    @steveo6944 Před rokem

    Anytime i see an audi sport Quattro in action its just awesome and i never tire watching it

  • @trucbidule7357
    @trucbidule7357 Před rokem +1

    Yes the power was unlimited. And that Quattro Rally Audi is not the last itteration of this car. But the power was still correlated to the mass of the vehicule, it had to have a certain ratio from power to mass.

  • @stanislavczebinski994

    Fun fact: To accelerate to 40 kph (25 mph) - the S1 needed a distance of 1 meter (~3 feet).
    On gravel.

  • @michaelmay5453
    @michaelmay5453 Před rokem

    Underneath the bolt on bits that S1 is an Audi 80 pre-87. I used to own one and it was a pretty car. The thing with those is that they are much sought after because you can drop pretty much anything in it as is, it's that well built.
    So an 1980 Audi 80 is what I had, 325BHP with a V6 from a VW (I think it was from an Omega, cast pistons cost me $30 and fixing the cylinder walls took a LOT of time with honing tool and different stones) and a supercharger from a Mercedes. Cost me about $500 all in all.
    Add some bodywork to it and two square rally extra lights from Hella and it looked like amazing. I had people note that, including people with much more expensive cars. I think it's the aggressive stance of the car that makes it look great. That's what has worked for a lot of vehicles.
    Straight cut gearbox made for rally and it sounded like fucking heaven. Didn't need a radio in that one.

  • @XenonArcher
    @XenonArcher Před rokem +9

    its kinda cool how a sporty road car can accelerate off the line as fast as an S1 and hold its own against one too. 2 tenths in the 1/4 is pretty close.

    • @eatthisvr6
      @eatthisvr6 Před rokem +1

      2 tenths is margin of error!!

    • @getahanddown
      @getahanddown Před rokem

      The RS cars are more than just sporty. Side by side with a competition car doesn't show what an RS3 can do. They're real weapons in sheeps clothing

    • @roknroller6052
      @roknroller6052 Před rokem +2

      All these channels are just advertisements, staged. Even though the Group b won you can tell how sluggish it was, I seen these and Delta s4 destroy Lamborghini hurricanes and hyper cars
      Put it this way the New 650hp Hill climb Monster Lost to this Walters Group-b Quattro S1. Therefore this RS road car would have to be faster then Audis new Hillclimb monster, Lmao. That Carwow channel is nonsense

    • @9.5.9.5
      @9.5.9.5 Před rokem +1

      @@roknroller6052 How do you make your tin foil hats?

    • @roknroller6052
      @roknroller6052 Před rokem +1

      @@9.5.9.5.. Maybe look it up yourself, instead of flippantly typing nonsense

  • @pizzakeks4816
    @pizzakeks4816 Před rokem +2

    That Quattro really was ahead of its time, no wonder it was pretty successfull.

    • @TheNismo777
      @TheNismo777 Před rokem +1

      Still is if there is a high skilled driver behind the wheel

    • @Lonestar1430
      @Lonestar1430 Před rokem

      The Quattro wasn't really very successful, it didn't won any Group B championship, the first was won by the Lancia 037 and the rest were won by the Peugeot 205 T16 until the category was banned, if my memory doesn't fool me :P In fact the Quattro was very heavy and being a front engine car, it suffered a lot of understeer, making it really difficult to drive. Anyway, it's an iconic and pioneer car (first AWD rally car) and the car that all the others makers used as example to make their owns.

    • @nigelclinning2448
      @nigelclinning2448 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Lonestar1430Audi Quattro won the Driver’s Championship in ‘83 and ‘84, and the Constructor’s Championship in ‘82 and ‘84

  • @itubogdan
    @itubogdan Před měsícem

    Man those rally quatros are absolutelly fenomenal , beast car , I would kill to drive one on a dirt road :D

  • @enlightendbel
    @enlightendbel Před rokem

    Getting power out of engines hasn't been much of an issue for half a century.
    Doing it while ever consuming less and less fuel while maintaining power is the hard part. And it's gotten so good we're now at a point we're pushing 1000+bhp out of 1,6 liter engines that run the entire race without ever refueling. This while in F1, 1 or 2 refuels a race were common.
    But I think the biggest change of all is braking technology.
    From special materials for disks, to running HUGE disks to having electronic mechanisms that maintain grip throughout braking, all to the point you can stop a modern fully loaded lorry faster than a 30 year old race car.

  • @liveisamelody9413
    @liveisamelody9413 Před 11 měsíci

    interresting fact: the rally quattro is actually de-tuned cause its a museum piece and its also not running on the usual racing fuel. this thing would rip so hard (originally 700+ hp with fuel it would make more like 750 to 950 hp) also the marketing department prbl also told the audi driver to not push it cause they dont wand the new car to look like a timmid grocery getter.

  • @saikeshi
    @saikeshi Před rokem +2

    The difference in brakes goes to show how far in safety we have came.

  • @TheAyrtonE
    @TheAyrtonE Před rokem

    The sound of that diverter valve it’s just insane

  • @mikeanderson2730
    @mikeanderson2730 Před 7 měsíci

    There were audis with more power, but due to the thorsen differential, a visko clutch between front and rear drive, it was wery hard to drive. Like Stig Blomqvist (swe) once said: "you can drive thru the same curve a hundred times, every time the car responds differently.." If you need more power, check out the peugeot 205 T16 from 1985-86. It had far more than 600+ hp, and was one of the absolute fastest and most sucessful group B. But the engine sound of the audi is off the charts..

  • @jhattara
    @jhattara Před 8 měsíci

    Race trim of the last group B rally cars was that 500-550bhp because the engine has to last for 10-20 hours of racing without exploding. Rallycross trim of the same cars, where the races last minutes instead of hours, were upto 700-800bhp.

  • @AndorFazekas
    @AndorFazekas Před rokem

    The strongest S1 Quattro was 570-600HP, but the Pikes Peak version is 750HP, but this is special. The strongest engine for normal racing is 720HP, this used in American IMSA in Audi 90 GTO (amazing and succsess car, better than big block amerericans) and previous versions.
    But..... The Strongest Rally category is not Groupe B!! The strongest is Group S, but this was deleted before starting! But good news for you: Many car development was finished, and used at special fan events. This cars like Audi Quattro RS 002, Lancia ECV and more...
    More information on Jackoh Motors channel with every single Groupe S car!

  • @framegrace1
    @framegrace1 Před rokem +9

    I think a rally driver from the era, or this guy driving the S1 in the video with more pratice, would even win the brake competition. Braking at max with no ABS and without skidding needs a lot of practice and feel for the car.

    • @ilversbendrups320
      @ilversbendrups320 Před rokem

      It's 2 million USD car... Noone will push it to the limits... Being tuned down to 500 HP it already was nerfed by 15-20% on performance tests...

  • @adampetten5349
    @adampetten5349 Před rokem

    James May from Grand Tour driving Rally in a Bentley is awesome.

  • @gedece
    @gedece Před rokem

    It was a race between a modern car with traction control VS a car designed to take corners with a short rally transmission and no traction control, just traction.

  • @krupauk
    @krupauk Před 2 měsíci

    the 2017 - 18 RS3 sounds nice 19 and the new ones have exhaust restrictions to get through emissions but the S1 is epic

  • @artao5
    @artao5 Před rokem

    Wow. That was way closer than I expected.

  • @V3ct0r_24
    @V3ct0r_24 Před rokem

    I think the RS200 evolution was quicker than that- 600hp and about the same weight. Absolute monster

  • @MrTuner86
    @MrTuner86 Před rokem

    I drove a audi urquatrro, it's basicly the cheaper, 36??cm longer version of the s1, engine etc is pretty much the same with a little horsepower difference tho, the one i were driving had a nice 600hp/700nm of torque and a nascar clutch to make the power get to the transmission, I drove it for a day, something around 350km in total and man did that car get attention, there was also very little cars that had the power to keep up or even overtake us and it was fun, another friend got to take a few laps on the track with it too that day and the car was something else, and the sound of the audis 2.2t 5cyl engine is pretty mutch unique

  • @-sandman4605
    @-sandman4605 Před rokem

    It was good to watch when the video came out and good to watch again.
    👍🤠

  • @rickseifert5139
    @rickseifert5139 Před rokem

    There were times when they max out the boost up to close 50psi boost which gave the Audi group B beast up to almost 1000hp.

  • @raymondsvensson9773
    @raymondsvensson9773 Před rokem

    I love the tweets of that turbo in that rally car

  • @Pappa_66
    @Pappa_66 Před rokem

    Yes! Thank you! Still kicks ass! Everybody knows, that a rally car break pedal is hard as a brick. It is so hard/heavy to push down that you need all your strength to reach like even 50% of the maximum breaking power.

  • @robertb8673
    @robertb8673 Před rokem

    Boy that quatro is
    Literaly a "Driving Machine". Love it. 👍🤩

  • @kevingevers4304
    @kevingevers4304 Před rokem

    the group b cars that still exist have been somewhat reduced in power so as not to break them at test events and the fia also no longer allowed them to use full power. fia rules are there to put group b cars at 80% of the power in 1987

  • @badgers1975
    @badgers1975 Před rokem

    The truth is by the time the S1 came out it was totally outclassed by the 205 t16 and the Delta s4. Group S was the next move on from group b, sensibly it was abandoned when it became obvious even group b was getting too dangerous

  • @trailrunplanet
    @trailrunplanet Před rokem

    There is a super fun video on Ken Block's channel playing in the Group B car at the Audi motorsport museum that is worth checking out.

  • @alunchurcher7060
    @alunchurcher7060 Před 9 měsíci

    not bad for a car that's best part of 40 years old. but still loved by many today especially the road car which are only increasing in price yearly for a good one.

  • @YouHaventSeenMeRight
    @YouHaventSeenMeRight Před rokem

    The horsepower per ton factor comes into play quite hard. The Audi RS3 is a lot heavier than the S1 (1550 Kg vs 1011 Kg ) and of course the S1 has more horsepower than the RS3 (500 vs 401). So it's no surprise the S1 won most categories.

  • @brucestorey3400
    @brucestorey3400 Před rokem

    Another great vid. I've seen lots of this guys one-on-one drag videos. Always interesting despite his propensity to become way too excited with screaming and yelling, Top Gear style.

  • @Heavenlygamer19YT
    @Heavenlygamer19YT Před rokem +2

    It's hilarious becuz the group b Audi quattro is actually one of if not the fastest rally car for it's time.

    • @regfenster
      @regfenster Před rokem +1

      No, the Sport Quattro was not the fastest, it was not that competitive against the 205 T16 and Lancia S4, the S4 0 to 60 on gravel in under 3 seconds

  • @DarkMatter1992
    @DarkMatter1992 Před rokem

    I never miss a carwow drag race.

  • @CMDRRustyDog
    @CMDRRustyDog Před rokem +1

    I've seen the S1 up close. You'd be surprised how small they are (or should I say short).
    But pure raw power. That RS3 is not a slow car by any means. But the Group B's are monsters.

    • @Lonestar1430
      @Lonestar1430 Před rokem

      You're right, the wheelbase was really short, the front and rear axle look very close one to another. That makes the car look a little weird on a side view, but impressive anyway.

  • @mariokuppers5686
    @mariokuppers5686 Před rokem

    It depends by Model. S1 Quattros where around between 450 - 500 HP E2 including the Pikes Peak did go up to 600 HP and the Ken Block or Prospeed Quattro from Niki Zlatkov go even further up to 700HP but with todays engine tech. 500 HP sound reasoable for an late S1

  • @brianr9529
    @brianr9529 Před rokem

    Just remember the s1 suspension isn't setup for tarmac, hence it rocking back and froward, manual instead of the pdk and no antilag, would've been unbelievable if all that was happening in this but obviously antilag destroys turbos.

  • @The-Uncle-Rock
    @The-Uncle-Rock Před rokem

    Yes the Audi S1 was up to 620 hp. 3,5 seconds from 0 - 100 km/h on dirt track^^ Sure the S1 dont have good breaks because the one who breaks is loosing ;)
    Greetings from germany!

  • @armindopires7743
    @armindopires7743 Před rokem

    Beautiful car, the Audi quattro you shoud have to see in live action in the 80`s, i was a lucky one to see that monster in the Portugal rallye. I miss those days.

  • @RogueWraith909
    @RogueWraith909 Před rokem

    That Group B Audi S1 in its final trim was ALOT higher than 500 bhp.

  • @vogsphere2719
    @vogsphere2719 Před rokem

    That S1 is so....so pretty.

  • @LBCAndrew
    @LBCAndrew Před rokem

    European TUV laws regarding exhaust noise are incredibly strict. Much more so than here in the US. I used to work for a German tuning company and installed many aftermarket exhaust systems on moden Audi's and they sound amazing.

  • @davidf.9364
    @davidf.9364 Před rokem

    Heeyyy dude, i just saw the shakedown of the rally safari in Kenya live and is one american in wrc2 with a citroen ds3 (Sean Jonhston)

  • @NuMountain
    @NuMountain Před rokem

    That driver, in the Quattro, really looks like Stig Blomqvist. Amazing.

  • @vintageman91
    @vintageman91 Před rokem

    500 bhp was probably a lesser number used but 530-550 bhp was most likely available.

  • @jeffrichards1537
    @jeffrichards1537 Před rokem +1

    If I was to get an S1 group b car. I would definitely probably die trying to push it lol.

  • @armindopires7743
    @armindopires7743 Před rokem

    Sorry again, you must not forget the competitive cars at the time like, Lancia Delta integrale, Peugeot 205 turbo 16, Ford rs 200, Rover rs 4. It was insane, those monsters running against the clock. It was i, don´t now.

  • @guanovolante7833
    @guanovolante7833 Před rokem

    I suggest to talk about the adventure of Alfa Romeo 155 in DTM. It is a legend.

  • @Nostromo1966
    @Nostromo1966 Před rokem

    Hi, friend!!! that car reached 1000hp!!! I saw it live and it was scary!!! greetings from Barcelona.

  • @SUPRAMIKE18
    @SUPRAMIKE18 Před rokem

    Its actually detuned to 500HP, basically the same engine was also run in IMSA and could make north of 700 when they turned it up.

  • @flatline9737
    @flatline9737 Před rokem

    i'm at 0:52 in the video, so here's my predictions, if they are both factory tuned the S1 probably win as it has the most BHP and NM, but there's the fact that it's almost 40 years old, so the older technology might set it back a little.
    the stats i could find on google are as followed,
    Audi S1 Quattro has around 540 BHP at 7500 RPM and 590 NM at 5500 RPM.
    Audi RS3 has around 400 BHP at 5600-7000 RPM and 500 NM at 2250-5600 RPM
    but my bet is on the S1 Quattro, mostly because it's in the top 3 of my all time favorite cars.

  • @TheMiguelosky
    @TheMiguelosky Před rokem

    40 years old babe.... but a rally car is not a drag racer... is other...it's for wild wild races...around everywhere...

  • @37sarcastic
    @37sarcastic Před rokem +1

    Should have left his video leader in there. "Hi. How are you? It's Matt Watson here from Carwow." :)
    Edit; I just love hearing him say it everytime

  • @calamarikid6666
    @calamarikid6666 Před rokem +2

    Hi Ian awesome content as per usual! If you get a chance check out the Lancia delta s4 with 760hp absolutely crazy

  • @nightbar
    @nightbar Před rokem

    There's an 800hp S1 out there ~ saw it race in Germany ;)

  • @speedygonzales1383
    @speedygonzales1383 Před 3 měsíci

    The s1 accelerates from 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds on asphalt and in 3.1 seconds on gravel road

  • @henriks5008
    @henriks5008 Před rokem

    Check out Grop-S Rally cars, they where ment to replace the group b cars. Even more nuts!

  • @gregorturner9421
    @gregorturner9421 Před rokem

    the quattro from seeing one up close up was tech years ahead of its time, which is still true today.

  • @BradGryphonn
    @BradGryphonn Před rokem

    This was a brilliant comparison. However, you have to give technology an award for being able to put the power and torque of a beast machine into a package that is quite civil when driving on your average road but can unleash itself to almost Group B pace when allowed.

    • @IWrocker
      @IWrocker  Před rokem +1

      Great point about the new cars

  • @trevorfaith180
    @trevorfaith180 Před rokem

    Im impressed the rs3 being 100hp less and 500kg heavier that was not blown away completely in the standing 1/4

    • @nielsdebakker3283
      @nielsdebakker3283 Před rokem

      The dsg box against a manual(see the nodding s1).
      Those audi's rs's are usually producing more power than the label says . Just like porsche audi likes to understate their power figures.

  • @sp33d4l0l
    @sp33d4l0l Před rokem

    If you want the maddest I5 turbo noises, check out the Audi 200 Trans Am and the 90 IMSA GTO. There's a great story behind those two cars too.

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 Před rokem

    before they start i am thinking " the s1 has 100 hp more and 500kg less weight. i will be very surprised if the newer one wins" . Now pressing play

  • @gtir300hp
    @gtir300hp Před rokem

    The first roll race, he even missed a gear and still beat him lol.

  • @safh4922
    @safh4922 Před rokem

    Never thought I'd see carwow on here 😄

  • @gggggggg3542
    @gggggggg3542 Před rokem

    Quattro used to be about 350bhp, obviously it was developed and tuned. S3 here has an auto gearbox with paddle shift, Quattro is a manual and takes slightly longer to change gear......... impressive a 40 year old car can beat a new one
    Now if you want a giggle, have you ever seen or heard of a company called "Overfinch"?? I can remember seeing a clip somewhere with one in it. Have a look around see if you can find it.
    Overfinch specialise in highly tuning Range Rover......... Yes, the big luxury SUV Range Rover. I urge you to have a look........... looks like an ordinary version, but my God it'll rip your face off

  • @gamerftw9006
    @gamerftw9006 Před rokem

    Everybody in the scene is reacting to Play Time by October Ends. You should do one too 🤘🏿

  • @neilt1889
    @neilt1889 Před rokem +1

    You should look at a Metro 6R4 from the 1980s new that is a mental car !!!

  • @CrazyhorseDK
    @CrazyhorseDK Před měsícem

    ken block audi visit look that up enough said Rest easy Ken Lia sure got talent

  • @davidmolling9222
    @davidmolling9222 Před rokem

    Hi Ian, the Audi RS4. Is heavier. If the RS3 had the weight taken out and had the downforce like spoiler/ back wing, and front spoiler/splitter, like the Audi Quattro, it might be an even race. That's my opinion. Anyway keep up the good work from Dave in Australia.

  • @vagstyleholland3992
    @vagstyleholland3992 Před měsícem

    Car wow is good channel from UK...love it

  • @GorchaxGaming
    @GorchaxGaming Před rokem

    The way you talk about the quattro sounds alot like the way i talk about gen 1 Dodge Viper. Not the prettiest, but raw, brutal, uncompromising and you can see that its built for a purpose...

  • @DerangedCoconut808
    @DerangedCoconut808 Před rokem +1

    check out any of the gymkhanas by hoonigan

  • @cliff4377
    @cliff4377 Před rokem

    I got photos of Stig Blomqvist he drove the hell outta the car he was loaned
    What a Legend

  • @eatthisvr6
    @eatthisvr6 Před rokem

    The s1 just sounds glorious!!