Secrets Of Speed: Unfair Advantage
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- čas přidán 7. 03. 2014
- One of my favorite racing documentaries of all time!
A look into the history and racing success of Audi's Quattro All-Wheel-Drive.
I cleaned up the video and audio as much as possible. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
No unfair advantage - only clever engineering
Kurzb3 not an advantage lol why are corvettes faster than Audi r8s?
Dunno why does have corvettes no awd?
Because it's not needed. Simple
But it sells cars so they use it just so people can say OMG "it's a Quattro" while in a circle jerk with other euro car fanboys
ok you must be the "i drive only in the dry summersun"-driver
Not only dominant, but man those Audi's just looked great!
sounded even better
And the sound of the 5 cylinder and the old style whistling blow off valve! I’m not that keen on rally racing but I really love the old group B rally races! It was a crazy time in rally racing in the early 80s and the Audi Quattro S1 is to this day my favorite all time rally race car! In face I think a 1985 group B Quattro S1 could do business with any modern rally car!
They still are. Thats why i own 10
Oh yes, very much agreed. Just look at that IMSA car
Harrison Davis wtff 10
Are you a arab prince or something?
I want to note that the record set by Walter Röhrl on Pikes peak was unbeaten until they paved some parts of the Road
Walter was just an incredible driver and athlete.
@@yankees29 He's still alive and kicking.
@@jospi2 I know I just figured he retired from professional driving by now. I saw a recent interview with him. Isn’t Hans Stuck also still kicking too?
Awesome never knew that. Thanx.
"Oh those Germans are smart... Unfair Advantage!"
Americans lol. They probably said the same thing in ww2 lol
@@evs251 and yet they build the nuclear bomb, whats your point exactly?
@@leviathan5207 It was actually the Germans who invented the nuclear bomb lol. Americans just copied German superior ingenuity.
Mercedes in F1.
@@leviathan5207 with the help of German Jewish scientists
Wow, that pedal work in the rally clip. It's like he's playing piano with his feet!
Niki Lauda called Walter Röhrl "genius on wheels". Some even say he is the best rally driver of all time. He is even in the Finnish Hall of Fame of Motorsport, as a german. What this guy is capable of doing with a car is just unbeliebable.
"decided to have a go at road racing, won 4." like damn walter
Yeah he is very special. He didn't like road racing though because he didn't like direct competition, he once said that he simply wants to drive as fast and as best as he personally can, the other people in the race don't really count for him. Four times winner of Rallye Monte Carlo with four different cars says a lot though.
He also plays piano with his ass
its like me giving a foot job to my husband
Audi: Makes an eye-wateringly well engineered and just flat out stunning race car
The american motorsports industry: Hang on that's unfair!
Too bad Audi's achievements on the track don't equal reliability in real life. Actually with broken gearboxes I guess It is. It was also admitted in this video that the American cars were far more powerful but obviously the Audi was at a big traction advantage, which it should be...it has awd and is lighter. Not apples to oranges. It would have been just as offset to put an Audi on an oval track with a NASCAR and been shocked the NASCAR was faster on a wide open track. The mistake with Audi was letting them on in the first place. Audi has achieved a lot, but nobody should be shocked a lighter awd car out turns a heavy rwd car anymore then anyone is surprised the awd R8 was leagues behind the rwd vettes on the races where top end mattered.
@@ashes2ashes863 Late respond but if audi or any german car company would join the braindead nascar today they would win their first races in a heartbeat lmfao. You just cant compare european cars with american cars.
@@imGeistevereint clearly, that's why they don't join it. Makes perfect sense. I mean sure they could easily join something, win, make lots of money and publicity, but they choose not to. Absolutely. Meanwhile the American car companies are involved SCCA, they're involved in IndyCar racing, the Rolex leagues, they're pretty much involved in every other form of racing that exists. It's just the Germans that choose not too...because they are so superior they apparently cant built a v8 4 speed car that can go around an oval for 4 hours at redline. 🤡
@@ashes2ashes863 if they can beat American v8 with only 5 cylinder how would you think they do with 8?
@@banchik well, I guess that would depend. They cant seem to build reliable v8. Even the most popular engine they build, the 2.0 is horribly unreliable. Regarding the 80s, it wasnt the engine, it was the traction advantage and weighing significantly less. That is also why they shouldn't have been in the same class. They arent today.
More flies on the door than the windscreen. Nice.
its well know that there are no more flies on windscreens becaus they are extinct due to all the vehicles killing them. forever. gone.
@@bartsshorts Someone tell that to the flies in my country :D
well thats good, id rather flies than people.
Tsuchiya style as well
classic finish rally expression. nice ;D
WATCHING HIS FOOTWORK IS JUST AS ENTERTAINING AS WATCHING THE CAR ITSELF !!!
Walter was like a maestro behind the wheel. Amazing
That's the problem with racing, being the best engineer is considered the "Unfair Advantage" Whether it's the AWD on Quattros, The twin turbos and AWD on the R32 GT-R, aerodynamics on the Superbird or the rotary in the 787B instead of making something that can compete with these new technologies and push racing and the auto industry forward many race organisations instead choose to stagnate never innovating on their own calling the technologies unfair and ban them. Imagine where Australia's car industry might be if Ford and Holden were forced to make something to rival the Skyline? Where we LMP cars be if Mazda were allowed to keep and perfect their rotary and other companies were forced to innovate to keep up? Were would NASCAR be if the other manufacturers had to make something to rival the superbird?
Well said, and how true!
787b wasn't fast. It had better drivers. The engine was banned because it was over the noise limit of some tracks
Exactly my thoughts!
One thing that unfortunately goes along with better engineering, is cost. When cost gets prohibitive or excludes too many teams, the competition suffers and so the series suffers. I'd be more inclined to call money the "unfair advantage" before engineering. Sometimes a lack of money spurs the best engineering, then the teams with money have the new tech banned(cough, Ferrari). That's unfair.
and when we dont have restrictions we over engineer and make the racing too fast and deadly like group b
That left-foot braking is an absolute work of art. His footwork, now that is the unfair advantage.. lol
Exactly…Walter and Hans were amazing drivers.
I did not expect to willingly sit through and enjoy an entire documentary today, holy shit.
Me too. Sorry for late reply.
The IMSA GTO car is still one of the best looking saloon racecars of all time
"At GMC Truck we make fuel economy a priority." 16 mpg. XD XD XD
lol
That was pretty decent for the day. Remember those trucks are still stupid heavy and strong.
Still better than a 2017 Toyota Tundra.
It's a truck. It's bigger and heavier. It gets worse mileage. Grow up.
ootdega Would you like calamine lotion for that butt hurt?
With shitty box on box aerodynamics, a crude throttle body fuel injection system with a single un-heated oxygen sensor, and a hydraulically controlled automatic transmission.
16 is actually not that bad for what it was. But go ahead and be a dick. It's OK, 'cause we know you don't know shit about cars.
I bet that rally driver kicks ass at Dance Dance Revolution.
That ralky driver has a name. And a very well known one on top of that.
I remember when Audi first made 5 cylinder engines, the "experts" said that this would never work properly.
Never underestimate the Germans. 😉
@@FAT8893 never overestimate the experts
Err...... Why do i suddenly thinking about RC211V motorcycle?
Well, I guess i was just me!
I had a '56 Mercedes 180 or 190....
It had a in-line 5 cylinder w/ dual carbs. and 4 on the tree...
It worked very good !
5 Cylinders. I'm realy lousy at math. But 2 X 5 = 10, or at least I think so. Seems like Audi has done a few things with its 10 cylinder engines. At some point, they may just cut the V10 in half and come up with a five cylinder engine...again!
Excellent engineering isn't an unfair advantage. This is why the audi and Nissan's r32. Dominated racing thru out the world. Both Perfectly engineered in my opinion .
This video makes me miss the Audi's I've been lucky enough to drive.
1983 Quattro Turbo Coupe
1987 5000CS Quattro
1988 90CS Quattro
1993 S4.
The S4 was a blast to drive. It handled great and it had a comfortable, yet firm ride. Although it was stock (except for a massive open element air filter in a custom housing I made) it was very quick. Also very solid and quiet even at freeway speeds. It's a really good looking car and I got quite a few thumbs up when I drove it. Routine things like oil changes, air filter, etc. were relatively cheap. But I ran into two problems.....First, a failing "power steering pump" and leaky hoses. Second, the front differential bearings were quite noisy. It also needed a new clutch(the original had 100,500 miles on it). The pump, bearings, and clutch were just too expensive for me to replace.So I had to sell it.
what year
I have a 2016 S5. Bought it used with 13k miles. Supercharged V6 and the handling is amazing. It's like driving on rails. My sports car is better in the snow than my mother's SUV.
I have an 87 5000cs Quattro
I have driven (but not owned) the first three you list; wonderful cars to drive! The only , and expected drawback, was the understeer at very low speeds, say 20 MPH or less. That's where the better weight distribution of the Subaru AWDs has an advantage. In any event, one of my fond memories was accelerating full throttle in the 5000q through a frost heaved, poorly patched Pittsburgh curve. The car leaned some, but went perfectly across it like it was new pavement.
Holy shit. That US Army ad was the worst ad I've seen in my whole entire fucking life.
Braeden Hamson man I just wanna rip on them so hard for that ad
It's the definition of stupidity.
It was so bad it was good.
Braeden Hamson Ha I'm literally about to have chest pains after that. WOW!!:o
You guys let me know when that ad is so later I can lmfao when I'm tired , cheers
I watched Hans Stuck and Hurley Haywood race at Sears Point Raceway in Sonoma, California in the IMSA GTO series. Hans Stuck spun out about mid-race and was down a half of a lap. Hurley Hawood was then the leader. By the finish of the race Hans had not only regained that half a lap he had spread out his lead over Haywood and took the win. He also won Summit Point, Mid-Ohio, Heartland Park, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock and Laguna Seca Rousch Racing won 6 to his 7.
Hans was an incredible driver.
The German Popometer was the unfair Advantage
Walter Röhrl once said that the late Group B cars were so fast, that "if you wait until you feel something in the car it was the last time you felt something"
what a genius, the best foot work on this planet
I'm sure Rohl taught Stuck the rally spool up techniques.
got to love the quattro"s flutter bwaaaaaapflutututututu
Donovan Van Der Weerd got an 5 cyl. Turbo b4 Audi s2. Love it so much!
yup !!! the best music to my ears !!!!!
The high boost pressure ran has a lot to do with that.
yeah but it was an amazing car !!!
Music but oh so bad for the turbo hahaha. You are damaging the turbo by having the air flow back inside causing the sound. That's where a blow off valve comes in. But i guess since they change the turbo every race, it doesn't matter hahahaha
7:35 I had a 1990 Audi Quattro 90 20v that this car was based on. I lived in Seattle at the time (rainy) and raced SCCA autocross with a couple of friends. (1998-2001) I put a set of Yokohama's, I believe the wear rating was around 60, street legal but very sticky tires and proceeded to destroy anyone and everyone in the indexed competition. (PAX) the Z06's and Boxter's didn't have a chance if there was any precip. Good times.
"With these cars, if your thinking. Your too slow." An amazing quote for group B as a whole...
This is the best 23 min on car porn for gasoline heads on youtube , Very smart to cut this from the orginal film ! :)
thedriver133 what original film ?
@@abdurrahmanmoustapha This
@@abdurrahmanmoustapha I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the film is called "Secrets of Speed."
i will never forget hearing one of those audis at goodwood festival a few years ago, the turbo fluttering sounded incredible
I got in trouble with the Finnish customs officer who did not believe that a car could have 5 cylinders!
lol that is hilarious
Quattro all wheeled drive wasn’t an unfair advantage it was pure genius.
Well... They all laughed at hans until he brought the flammenwerfer.
But yo... This is some initial d stuff right here when hans explained he had to use his left foot to break and shit...
Love the part when they talk about Rohrl road racing. Just a rally legend showing up to show the kids how a quattro car works.
I remember vividly watching all this transpire in Trans Am and IMSA GTO. I was super interested at the time because my father's daily driver was a 5000 Quatro. The two seasons outlined in the later half of this video was some of the most dominating winning I've ever seen in any class of racing. Absolutely a blast to watch.
I never get tired of Hans Stuck explaining the concept of flying by the seat of the pants:). I finally got an A6. Quattro is a beautiful thing. :)
11:20, that has to be one of the most epic overtakes I have ever seen! Just brilliant!
12:50 Stuck ain't SHOOK!
waddup boi?
Porsche did 9/11
Ain't SHIT gonna stop Audi.
Viva la Quattro.
I wondered why you‘d comment on a video like this.
But then I remembered you have an Audi fetish.
Holy crap its armoured skeptic
Wow, goosebumps at the childhood memories! One of the greatest things about the Safari Rally was that it negated the speed advantage to a great extent due to the unforgiving terrain. It became about skill and endurance rather than plain speed which kept other makes competitive to the Quattro, which was consequently by no means guaranteed of winning. The Americans and their much touted Dodge Ram Chargers found this out the hard way, lol. Some of the best times of my life, watching these machines fly past on Kenya's back roads as a kid.
My favourite thing about racing drivers is when they are in the zone they are literally in a trans and are not focusing on anything other than what they have to focus on. Before they are men, fathers, husbands, they are racing drivers first. crazy. love it
That overtake straight out of a right-hander at 11:20 godlike!
Proper!👌🏼💪🏼
F1: mercedes dominated 2014 because of their inventive turbo system
reaction: well they had the better idea and were smarter than us, I guess we need to better our systems to win.
(basically same thing with LeMans but for prosche or audi)
Us:Audi dominates racing series with intelligent engeneering, awd and small light and highly effective turbo engines that
actually need drivers involvment with more than either gas or brake.
reaction: THATS UNFAIR. they are using systems more advanced than our banal "nothing can displace displacement" v8's
THEY MUST BE CHEATING, BAN IT
MigotRen That's the typical reaction I've come to expect from the US and UK. Anything they don't understand must be prohibited. Sad way to be
MigotRen clap
because they themselves have an unfair advantage, geography
It happend in F1 as well, but only because of the same reasons as said in the indycar bit. Because it was too far from conventional car construction.
After the F1 was sold to an american company, they force the teams to use simplier engines without the new turbo tech for 2020.
I love this video. I must have seen it a hundred times. Racing in the 70's/80's/early 90's was fantastic! Vrrrooouuuummm...tutututututu! 🖤
I have an Audi Quattro. V8. S4. Drives like a dream.
The five-cylinder was just a great engine.
Der Fünf Zylinder war einfach ein geiler Motor.
'Was' he said.
Hmpf!
Yes
So far ahead of their time. Audi won so much, quattro was banned. Then Audi took out full page magazine ads to flaunt it, lol
'Literally blow the doors off the competition'
It's called 'figuratively'.
Yes! welcome to my intellect ''Group 44 Inc'' Europe's Man makers and Legends in the Automotive world, Too much for the ''Jarheads'' with the bigger Guns... Aye! Free Scotland!! (from the UK).... And Peace on our Planet!
Because Hans Stuck likes to drift :D (doors are on the side)
I saw that damn IMSA quattro at a little known race. Stuck my head in through the window just after it won and looked around. There was no one around. Wow that thing was blazing fast and you wouldn't believe the construction details. Group 44 was legendary. The cars are still in existence in a collection somewhere.
I remember Audi kicking ass in the Trans Am and GTO races and it was sad that the Quattro cars were banned.
Great video. I especially enjoyed the comments made by Hans Stuck about changing his driving style (left foot braking) to maximize the advantage of AWD.
Basically America cried like a little girl when the Quattros beat them to the curb.
Can’t believe they didn’t bother engineering AWD drive systems. Fucking losers lmao
It always amazes me to see the spectators at the rally races barely avoiding being roadkill.
Lol'd at that GMC commercial.
Seldom have I smile so much through a racing documentary (and boy I like them when they are good!) but this one is really good!!! Thanks for sharing :)
Man, those 5cyl engines sound gorgeous
Recently picked up a B5 S4 and MAN the Quattro system is amazing! You feel really confident in turns.
Left foot braking while on power... The brakes must have been glowing at the end of the race!
Māris Samats make them bigger!😎
brake boosting ftw
I watched rallies for 20+ years. The brakes would be glowing in less than 5 miles! That's where you go to racing pads, rotors, and brake fluid. The pads won't work well unTIL you get them warm. Then they work great! I miss the night stages at STPR in Pennsylvania. From the correct vantage point, you could see the glow from the Audi brakes AND turbo!
There‘s a good reason for air intakes on the outside of the rims...
Yea buddy there's scenes in the dark with red glowing disks
mimimiii, he's better, so we have to change the rules.. ridiculous! audi did NOT break any rules! just because the competitors were not able to invent something like audi did.
Ford rs200 was built and they couldn't even use it because of the timing of the rule change
hehaheadshot97 the rs200came to late, with the Portugal accident weeks after the escorts arrival, the group game was up.
They have Donald Trump as the president, what more can we say.
Ford's been killin' people since the 1900s as it seems...
The Ford with the RS200 wasn't the only loser of Group B being cancelled. Ferrari had just finished the 288GTO which was supposed to compete in circuit races and tarmac ralleys, Austin had the V6 MiniMetro for rallying and Porsche the 959/961 which was designed to do everything. The Porsche did win the Paris Dakkar and its class at LeMans to be fair though.
One of my favorite parts in this video is at 2:55 and 3:40
Thanks for posting this. I used to have this VHS, but I loaned it out and it never came back. Wonderful to see it again.
Thanks for sharing. Such a quality piece on the early years of the Quattro.
Thanks for the nice comment :)
I was at the rain race at mid-ohio. It was amazing to watch Stuck in the Audi. More than once I could see him wiping the fog off the inside of the windscreen with a rag with one hand and driving with the other. It didn't slow him down a bit. FYI - read the book (The Unfair Advantage) by Donohue. He defines it as finding an advantage by parsing the rules for little tweeks that others miss. Like using the brake hydraulics to pull the caliper pistons in when changing pads on a pit stop. Ingenious not really unfair. As far as the Audis being banned from Trans-am, while it would have been great for them to continue, they were radically different from the rest of the field. Most production based racing series (Europe too) are intended to race like against like, the all wheel drive was truly radical at the time and not at all like anything else. In that sense they seemed correct to exclude the cars. It's not like a Lotus Elan beating a V8 Camaro where the engineering is similar but executed differently, I.E. heavier with big power VS. light and quick. If Trans-am were a prototype class then no, they should not have banned them.
“Our Germans are smarter than their Germans”
-Winston Churchill
😉
Did he really say that?If so,proves how much he knew man.😎
😂😂😂 wtf
i'm so confused on what that means
R32 Guy it’s a reference to the German Engineers that lived in England.
Yet it took the biggest empire in history and 2 other super powers just to stop them when they only just came out a depression too
when you lose, let's change the rule! Just like WRC, when Mitsubishi employed electronically control transmission system and kept winning. WRC just banned them for the sake of the losing teams!!!
@AlexGRFan97 WRC and F1 can go fuck themselves with their literal libraries of regulations.
Make cars go really really fast with a few smaller rules to make it a game. Sprinkle firefighters and medical teams accordingly all around the track. Done.
@@sursomsatan1225 WRC is way faster than group B as it is right now.
How very american. The Chevys and GM crap isn`t winning,change the rules. And when that doesn`t work,pretend they don`t exist and don`t invite them back.
I`ll shit on anyone who bans or finds an easy way out of beating/getting rid of serious oposition instead of working on their own game to catch up. I shit on them for banning Audi,i`ll shit on FIA for banning the Mazda/rotary,i shit on the Australians for banning the Nissan R32,i shit on Floyd Mayweather Jr for always wanting catchweight unless he was certain of the outcome. Floyd is a GREAT boxer but his BS with always wanting the playing field tipped in his favour tarnishes his whole legacy. The whole idea of finding an easy way out instead of upping your own game repulses me and needs to be shat on. So pretty much all i do is run around and shit on stuff :/
Yeah this behavior has lead to the state of most kinds of motorsport right now where every car is exactly the same. I like the times when it was as much a competition of who builds the best car as it was for who drives best.
They Didnt ban the 787B from Le Mans, They banned any car that wasnt using F1 Spec Engines, 787B wasn't very competitive in any other race it competed in, hence why mazda pulled out after the le mans win
If it wasn't a 3.5L V10 then it's banned, not just rotaries
Imagine if we knew back then what we know now: That in 2017 F1 cars would have 1.6 liter V6`s and the top class,fastest LeMans racers would be running on Diesel and 9 volt electric dildo engines.
I remember thinking going from V12 to V10 was bad..... Not to mention the banning of Group B rally!!
All that “Vorsprung Durch Technik” helped of course.. 🤓
Those cars were an absolute joy to watch. Just dominant. Head and shoulders above the competition.
loved the last commercial, I remembered Dave Winfield playing for the Angels in 1990-91 after watching him play live in the Bronx for ten years. Cecil Fielder winning a World Series with Jeter and the Yanx in 95... But don't get me wrong, the Quattro was just AWESOME!
The Balls on those Group B Drivers back in the day . To go so fasr with huge crowds parting like Moses parting Ghe Red Sea . The Female driver of the Quattro up Old Pikes Peak was Awesome too !!!
Genius Engineers: Design and build from scratch machines faster than everyone else
Racers who lost: You can't do that it's not fair
Racing rules: You can't do that
Those feet! Walter Röhrl was a ballerina. Awesome content. Thanks!
That “Specialty prepared Quattro” is BAD 🔥 🔥
And then you had Nissan 10 years later doing the exact same thing with their AWD system in Japan and everywhere else they went.
Even getting close to being thrown off the oval in the US too where they babied a R32 around the track, but the officials still noticed the car's capabilities. (That video is on CZcams of that run, some home video recorded footage of the R32 GT-R. search for Rolex Daytona to find it)
But it is these machines that makes excellent road cars later, and which is why I believe it is important to demand road car production of the race machines.
Otherwise all you get is like Peugeot and Citroens today, boring FF machines that doesn't have much in common with their WRC counterparts.
CMDR Sweeper a
I agree. Top Gear went over modern Peugeots. Theyre a nightmare :(
Wait modern WRC aren't homologated?!
Ferdinant piech was one of the most memorable and highly influential men in german automaking history
That turbo noise and the best thing I've ever heard holy hell
I remember seeing these car racing as a kid!!! The sound!! The chirping and turbo sounds!!! It was awesome!!!!! I wish they could race again........... in the weather tech series GTLM class!!!!!
great video thanks for posting it
+St0lte I love this video. I've watched it a dozen times.
Alex you rule, this is some extremely high grade motorsports porn! Mmmm yummy thanks!
I used to have this on VHS!!.... after watching it and showing it too many times to count I decided one day to tape over it.... HUGE mistake... I found myself trying to watch it shortly after forgetting I had erased it... thanks for uploading this been looking for it for well over 20 years!
I guarantee patriotic fake indoctrinated ESPN2 will never produce or broadcast sucha thing again, specially under BOBBLE HEAD TRUMP
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"In 1981 Audi found the secret at last, a center differential", something Jeep was using in the 1970's and AMC put in the first mass produced AWD car, the AMC Eagle, in 1979.
Soo, why didn't they use it then?
Clay Kwitowski ... except America made them from chocolate and they were rubbish
@@AakeTraak - Because we are talking AMC, right before it sunk and was bought by Chrysler. They had ideas but no money, and racing costs.
What a great video!
Thank you for sharing this with us. ❤❤
So happy to see this pop up in my list. I remember watching this episode when it first aired and it has always stuck in my mind...
Left foot breaking was not a new technique. It was used on FWD cars before this. In particular the SAAB Rally drivers perfected it.
LOL, and I wondered why is the north american racing so crap. Because apparently they think that the autosport is a gentlemen's circlejerk, where being beaten to a pulp can never be fair.
Kakto Tak they couldn't handle being beat buy zhe Germans
Well, as a racing driver I think that the "gentlemens ciclejerk" is better then modern marketing perfectness. But everyone gets the sport he deserves. ;)
Take Stirling Moss for example. Great guy. A true gentlemen - today glorified. He was the most fair professional race driver ever. But he never got world champion. When the driver has fun, the spectators will have fun as well.
Kakto Tak sound like modern day F1. Sadly.
so its basically trumps philosophy. if somebody beats u, its rigged
+Save Jeff Oh, it's Trump supporters who are rioting and contesting the election, that's news to me. I thought it was HRC and Bernie supporters that were crying about the unfairness of the US electoral system and trying to bully electors into changing their votes. Maybe if you guys had the illegals and the dead people vote in rural precincts you could have pulled off a win. Too bad there will be voter ID laws for the next election and a full investigation into voter fraud completed by the mid-terms. Unless he fucks over the working men of America, better get used to President Trump on your tv for about 8 years. Wanna talk racing, cool. Leave your butthurt political comments on a political video, thanks.
Wow this is racing at it's best!😍
Thank you for this clip, much appreciated.
Nascar does not want you to see this. Awesome video!
"Unfair Advantage",more like bad engeneering by american car manufacturers :D
Paolo Mo so butt hurt they lost they weren't invited back man that had me laughing
If american car makers would not have bad engineering they would have no engineering at all.
say what you want about American cars. my friends m3 needs constant expensive maintenance, valve adjustments, etc while my 17 year old corvette is faster, has more grip, has a real manual transmission, gets beat on constantly, and needs nothing but an oil change now and then. yep its got a plastic dash. is that what you're looking at going 150?
but every car has it's own advantage because awd also gives more resistance I can keeo going about all types of cars but still let someone be happy with the setup and look and everything else he is happy with. because a koeningsegg agera RS is also RWD and it is faste in a0 to 60 mph/0 to 100 kph than a Chiron and that one is awd but the cornering like you see in the vid would propably be better in the Chiron so awd does not always proof it is better
what m3 needs valve adjustment??
"unfair" must come from a bad looser! XD
Jean Katana loser*
Yes, from a kinf od a "Thrump character"
@@yammmit no
@@iamincrediblystupidbut4364 Yes.
Jokes aside, it is really a good move to ban any sort of unfair advantage. One easy example would be the infamous "Fan car". If brabham keep it, and FIA not considering banning it, manufacture who can't or don't have enough budget to develop the system brabham invented would probably rule out of the championship and manufacture who had the money and brain would dominate and kill this thing called "competition". Other than speed or safety reasons, this inventions showed us how brilliant it is if engineers are capable to found a loophole and using it as much as possible to gain more advantage without breaking the rules
This is the best ad for Audi ever.
Thank You so much for sharing that video. I really enjoyed it and learned some new things I never knew about Audi history.
Thats like Skyline dominated in Australian car championship
I had a 1990 Audi Quattro 200 back in college...5 speed, fully loaded, ahead of its time technically (digital gauges, 1,000 buttons like a cockpit). It was a dog off the line but when the turbo kicked in and having a lockable rear diff, it was a cool car. A big boat, but a cool car nonetheless.
As far as the unfair/fairness in advantages..it depends on how you look at it. There are rules for a reason, to keep competition close. They don't allow 200lb wrestlers to wrestle in 135lb weight classes. They don't allow heavyweight champions to fight in the welterweight class. So once Audi introduced an AWD version..it was the racing commissions fault for not having rules to restrict drivetrain or weight or power...an advantage they didn't assume until it was introduced. So the new rules are not to cry about unfairness, its to keep the competition competitive. Every sport has rules..they're in place for a reason.
I don't see it as the US being inferior, I see it as the US not having a necessity for AWD where rally driving wasn't as big. The V8 Cobra was introduced and made Ferrari look bad, but I don't consider Ferrari inferior...nor Cobra superior. The advantages were introduced from an angle the norm had not considered and it changed how things were done. The geographics of countries also dictates how they adapt technology into it...America has A LOT of open, big roads. We have bigger cars, engines, less population density requiring condensed roads and small towns/villages. Europe has a lot of twisty roads, narrow..where big trucks simply cant traverse. Its a product of its environment. Comparing one car from a country that built its car for a reason to another is silly. Adapting the advantages to make what you have more efficient however, makes sense.
i think audi didnt care that much. i think they wanted to show off what they are able to. since the americans laughed about them. also it was a huge PR attack on the market in the US. since everybody thought audis are boring and volkswagen were picking on them because inside the vw group they werent doing well and vw had to pump money into audi.
If the NBA made it illegal to have anyone over 6' on the team because it's an unfair advantage, that'd suck. What about usain bolt? Or Michael Phelps? Have they not an unfair advantage?
@@GerBarne apples to chestnuts really. Why not let Michael Phelps compete against 2 year olds? Why not have Usain Bolt compete against middle school students? Why not let me run a ZR1 in the MX5 road races? Use logic...
@@dham99 if there was a middle school student who could run as quickly as usain bolt, we probably would let them compete against him. Maybe we'd make them wait until they were 18.
I get the argument about sportsmanship and good spectacle. But Audi didn't break any rules, and instead of the other teams rising to their challenge, they banned them.
Audi had a clear disadvantage on the straightaways. They was established in the video. Remember that when the Audi 200 debuted in the Trans Am, everyone kind of laughed at it. So, the organizers were smart and left the car alone. And, it is not silly to compare cars from one country to another. That is what motorsport is all about. Or maybe you didn't care when Ford took it to Ferrari at LeMans from 1966 to 1969. 24 hour European endurance races was not something Americans were building cars for, but Ford said that they would defeat the Europeans at their own game, and they proved it. Sorry, but your comments don't ring true.
Many thanks for uploading this AMAZING piece of SCCA Trans Am Racing History, as well as racing history!
Thank you so much for preserving this gem.
Hans Stuck: "At the end of my carrier.... " good on. He drove till 2011.....
Too bad audi doesn't make iconic cars anymore.
Mindaugas Vaskevicius RS6 ain't a bad car.
The RS6 is the ultimate sleeper.
Luc Verhoeven time will be the judge of that.
Mindaugas Vaskevicius Audi R8 non iconic? Audi R18 non iconic? There was the same situation in Superstars series where AUDI RS5 with Quattro was unbeatable! Audi is still iconic and the best.
R10 would be iconic not really the R18
Thought about taking my Audi TT Quattro to Summit Point next year. Now I have to go, knowing it was one of the tracks that Audi used to build the hype around the Quattro system!
We have learned nothing about making dokumentaries. This is really great stuff.
Audi drivers: you smell that?
Other drivers: what?
Audi drivers: smells like salty and losing in here
I knew there was something special about the quattro ever since i hit the first corner everything they are saying about it is 100% true the quattro really is the best for the power it has and it's never about how the road is it's how ever the driver wants to attack
I remember that time, but I could only read about the race in the magazine... That's why I have watched this video more than 10 times and enjoy watching it every single time . I enjoy listening to every word they are saying in this video, every word about the race and that Audi and it's technology. How Audi could crucify every other car in their total disbelief..😂
I saw this back in the day on ESPN and I remember some of it for years. Seeing it now brought back great memories. Such and awesome documentary
Why does just one more cylinder
Create the most amazing soundtrack 😩👊™️
Ah the glory days of group B
This is the trans am series.
so they cant win so they say its unfair?
yup that's America in a nutshell
KFC Bucket thats just bueatiful
KFC Bucket how many world wars has your countrywon? must I ask
KFC Bucket also look at cars today and Audi doesn't build a single car than can run and turn even close to as quickly as the corvette. so fuck off with your anti-American mindset.
KFC Bucket and its hilarious how people are able to talk so much shit about America while online. the irony is that the internet and the computer you are using are American inventions!
This is a great find! Awesome documentary!
What awesome memories this video brought back. Always an Audi fan!