Battery Tray, Frame Rail, Floor Pan (Pt.1) - Datsun Z Rebuild Episode 21

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  • čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
  • Let's exorcise all of the rust demons out of this Z. Well, at least let's try.
    Watch the full playlist: • Datsun Z Frame-Up Rest...

Komentáře • 84

  • @dans5595
    @dans5595 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "this is turning out to be a little more complicated than i thought.", said every hobbiest in the history of all hobbies.

  • @mbeck2663
    @mbeck2663 Před 3 lety +14

    Hey, be careful pulling out those floors with the front glass still in. If the body twist at all it is a high possibility it will crack that glass. Also pulling out so much at one time, some door bars or just some bracing tacked in might be a safe option here. Great work as always and look forward to the updates, keep it coming.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      That's really good advice, thank you!

    • @adelaideinvigilation5230
      @adelaideinvigilation5230 Před 3 lety +2

      And when you weld you might splatter the glass with weld and this will cause rust to occur in the glass.

    • @s14dorikin
      @s14dorikin Před 3 lety +3

      @@RestorationForBeginners To that point on bracing, BisforBuild did a good job of showing how they braced their Z when they cut out the floors (and transmission tunnel and spare tire well, obviously more than you intend to). Should give you a decent visual representation on how to brace yours.
      czcams.com/video/_bMc3fyFUSk/video.html

  • @stevefletcher2334
    @stevefletcher2334 Před rokem +1

    stumbled on your channel by chance and love it. You have the balls to admit you don't have the skills or the tools but the hell with it, you're going to jump right in and just DO it! In life we can either sit back and watch someone else do it...or we can do it ourselves. You're doing it. Congrats. Can't wait to see how this Z series turns out.

  • @JordanPayneLV
    @JordanPayneLV Před 3 lety +2

    I put new frame rails on my Z and it really helped out with the stiffness, feels like a huge upgrade

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      glad to hear that, my rusty bucket could definitely use some stiffness. The amount of metal creaking that I heard driving with even with the l28 was astounding.

    • @kylanspence2051
      @kylanspence2051 Před 3 lety

      Did you order them somewhere or just go to a shop?

  • @upthepooper3555
    @upthepooper3555 Před 3 lety +1

    Perfect timing. I have my baddog floorpans and frame rails ready. Currently learning how to remove everything I need to in order to get the engine out to start cleanup. I’m learning everything as I go so knowing what actually is connected to an engine to then know how to remove it has been a challenge this week. Also practicing how to weld for when the time comes to install the floorpans and silvermine coilovers I have

  • @jackbrown6913
    @jackbrown6913 Před 3 lety +10

    For patching and welding in sections there’s a CZcamsr “Fitzee’s Fabrications” that may be worthwhile to view ?

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +2

      I'm aware of the channel. That dude makes everything look so easy, it's almost frustrating. But he's a master, definitely learning from him.

    • @ceesklumper
      @ceesklumper Před 3 lety

      Fitzee's, and Trev's Blog, is how I got started last summer (never welded etc before). 30 metal sections later, done with the rust repairs on my '73 Lancia.

  • @christurismohk
    @christurismohk Před 3 lety +4

    Finally, a new video! Keep it up!

  • @WilliamVerdoorn
    @WilliamVerdoorn Před 3 lety +1

    I’m dealing with a lot of the same issues on my 280zx. Nearly always more rust than meets the eye. I found an aggressive knotted wire wheel to take the rubber matting off the floor pans pretty well. Keep up the quality work!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      I'm thinking I'll just get this thing acid dipped after I finish this part. The amount of dust and debris caused by paint, undercoating, and rubber matting is insanity right now.

  • @johnbloomer7210
    @johnbloomer7210 Před 3 lety

    Your videos are great. I've really enjoyed watching them throughout the year. I recently picked up a 77 280z and got it running after it sat for 24 years. It's really running rough and backfires a little so I'm going to do some rust work until I get un-frustrated with the mechanical issues. Appreciate your sharing your journey with your 280z.

  • @drunktortila3632
    @drunktortila3632 Před 3 lety +3

    Hey man good to see ur still pluging away! Its probably worth putting some tube sections in the inside to the strut tower to firewall and back to the rear. Your cutting alot of structure below and want to minimise twisting!
    Btw need some more teasers of that rb!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for the suggestion, makes a ton of sense.
      Bro I wish I could give you some teasers on the RB. When I get this thing dropped off to get acid dipped/painted, I'll start working on the RB for sure.

    • @drunktortila3632
      @drunktortila3632 Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners jheeez cant wait man!! Im getting an rb for my 260z but im sticking to NA power for the noise haha
      Check out apex engineered they have some chassis strengthening stuff which is cheap $95 for the firewall to strut towers in the wheel area or fab some up yourself

    • @240zbuiltbyme5
      @240zbuiltbyme5 Před 3 lety +1

      Hey bro are you set on acid dipping? I’ve heard a lot of horror stories about acid dripping out after you start driving the car around and ruining the paint. I have no personal experience just saying might be worth researching?

  • @Smilyface509
    @Smilyface509 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My 280Z Rust is even worse :( Definitely wish I had a garage and welder! It’s my dream car and I haven’t given up yet but oh boy, is the car structurally unsound. My frame rails peeled off the frame with a hole near battery tray measuring a foot in length and width 😳

  • @danjavier10
    @danjavier10 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep doing what you are doing. Everything you are assuming everyone wants to see and hear, is exactly what we want to hear. My dats it's even more rusty than yours. I needs it! Lol

  • @HevyDevyD
    @HevyDevyD Před 3 lety

    Just bought a '77 280 that's honestly in even worst shape then yours. gonna be watching all your vids to see how you tackled the rust

  • @AnthonyCessor
    @AnthonyCessor Před 3 lety

    This makes me so happy I didn't have rust in the battery tray area. My floors were 10 times worse than yours though. Keep up the work!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      Did you replace the floors yourself? How did you deal with the frame rail and the seat brackets?

    • @AnthonyCessor
      @AnthonyCessor Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@RestorationForBeginners I didn't trust my welding skills at the time so someone else did it. For the frame rails he used a primer which can be welded through (makes welding a lot harder) on bottom side of the floor and inside of the frame rails and did button welds and stitch welds and used a sealer. I also used eastwood internal frame coating for extra protection. The seat brackets he took off completely then welded back on once the new floor was in. Everything was then coated with POR15. So far no problems but its only been a little over a year.

    • @AnthonyCessor
      @AnthonyCessor Před 3 lety

      ​@@RestorationForBeginners Btw I would highly recommend removing your windshield and the rest of the glass or covering it from the inside before you weld inside the car. My windshield got a little damaged from the weld splatter

  • @TallGarage
    @TallGarage Před 3 lety +1

    all Z's are worth saving.

  • @arthurmontana2314
    @arthurmontana2314 Před 3 lety

    Your videos really are a joy to watch always exited to see a new video uploaded

  • @jesse5222
    @jesse5222 Před 3 lety

    Glad to see new content, keep up the great work man.
    Just my .02 but I would recommend getting the car media blasted to 1. Save time and 2. It will Really show what you are working with. Just my opinion. I did it with mine and it helped alot, just threw the car in primer so it doesn't surface rust while I do patch work.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, you're 100% right. After this, I'm sending it off to get acid dipped and/or blasted.

  • @user-yc6ob3xv8f
    @user-yc6ob3xv8f Před 3 lety

    Haha, good timing. I just got my 280z floor pans delivered about a week ago. It's gonna be a hell of a job

    • @szaka9395
      @szaka9395 Před 3 lety

      why dont you just buy a steel sheet and cut it by yourself? Wont it be easier in case of this car where you have to rebuild whole floor + frame parts?

    • @user-yc6ob3xv8f
      @user-yc6ob3xv8f Před 3 lety

      @@szaka9395 It's basically just one of those "pay to have it done right" things. I can do a lot of things, but metal fabrication is not one of them

  • @benjaminnielsen4288
    @benjaminnielsen4288 Před 3 lety +2

    Great to see another video! You were quiet there for awhile. Its amazing that you are tackling the most daunting tasks with the issues of rust that we all dread. Hats off. I was really hoping to get to NC last month from the Middle East, but once again, the Wuhan virus has thwarted my plans for travel. Anyways, stay safe and keep up the good work. BTW, how's your finger doing?

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      It's doing a lot better!! It still looks a little bit wonky but you won't notice it unless you're looking for it. Functionally, 100%. Thanks for checking in!

  • @3rd-eye-neenja563
    @3rd-eye-neenja563 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep up the good work,,get ready to replace everything,,,,I'm getting nickle and dimed to death on my s30 I'm doing all the work also

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +2

      Haha I'm doing as much as I can.

    • @3rd-eye-neenja563
      @3rd-eye-neenja563 Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners in the end bro,,,it will be all worth it,,restoring a classic car and preserving it's history ,,,,,👍

  • @MrGear1986
    @MrGear1986 Před 3 lety

    If that much rust would have persuaded you from buying this car, you'd hate to see mine. Lol.

  • @240zbuiltbyme5
    @240zbuiltbyme5 Před 3 lety

    Great work buddy! Glad to see another vid up. +1 for some bracing man, last thing you want is to weld everything up and find the chassis is bowed or twisted. It’s amazing you were driving around with chassis rails rotted out like that! I’m currently building a chassis jig for my 240z restoration to hold everything square when I come to do this work. Also you not a fan of spot weld cutters and drill bits? Especially with stuff like your seat rail supports, so you have a nice clean hole to plug weld weld back in, instead of the mess the belt sander leaves. Keep up the great work, looking forward to more.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      It's a unibody car, so if you're not autocrossing it or running way above stock hp/torque, rest of the chassis braces it fine for the most part. But yes, this section is the biggest reason why I decided to do a frame-up restoration.

  • @pachecolljk
    @pachecolljk Před 3 lety

    YOU'RE BACK! :D

  • @raqu5786
    @raqu5786 Před 3 lety

    CO2 - carbon dioxide have -78 Celsius degrees when expanding. This is the same carbon dioxide as in welding cylinders or used in the food industry.

  • @andyzman4387
    @andyzman4387 Před 2 lety

    Funny..your car has the same exact rust as my 240z.my frame tales are good though.

  • @DIYbyJackieChanel
    @DIYbyJackieChanel Před 3 lety

    เยี่ยมมากคับreally good

  • @_jamb_
    @_jamb_ Před 3 lety +1

    Who do you like the new Z that we should see next year?
    Many pictures are out there.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      Haha I don't have money to spend on a new car right now, so I'm not even paying attention. I'm glad they're bringing it back though, let's just hope it's not another Supra situation... too expensive, too slow, and no manual.

    • @_jamb_
      @_jamb_ Před 3 lety

      ​@@RestorationForBeginners I also dot´t have the money, but I like the styling.
      It will be producet bei Nissan only and not like the Z4/Supra by Toyota and BMW. It should have a A 6 speed manual, V6 anc ca. 400Ps for ca. 45K to 50K.
      So we can just hope it will be good and in 5 years it should be at an good price or I should be in the right position in live.😉
      If you have the time take a look at the prototyp:
      czcams.com/video/KNV-7pP_2cU/video.html

  • @rastaming6884
    @rastaming6884 Před 3 lety

    Is it faster to use a pneumatic belt sander vs a drill with the appropriate size drill bit. Too remove spot welds??

  • @alfredoaispuro6342
    @alfredoaispuro6342 Před rokem

    I just bought my 280zx and have to do rust restoration but I have 0 welding experience. Wish me luck

    • @CaidenTalley77
      @CaidenTalley77 Před rokem

      I will, I’m considering buying one very cheap. The only problem is bottom rust

  • @marcelgeber643
    @marcelgeber643 Před 3 lety

    DEDICATION !!!! I think you have aaaaalot of this .... HIGH FIVE

  • @bardthief
    @bardthief Před 3 lety +1

    Mine needs the exact same job T_T

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      Lance, just do it.
      JK, if you got money to spend, have someone do it for you. This is insanity.

    • @szaka9395
      @szaka9395 Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners Would you buy this car again?

  • @TheDIYTuners
    @TheDIYTuners Před 3 lety

    If you think yours is bad check out our 280z shell. Should make you feel alot better about yours 🤣

  • @ReinierKorth
    @ReinierKorth Před 3 lety

    What happened to personal safety? You are cutting and grinding with rubber gloves on. Apart from that you are doing great and doing it right.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety

      Dude, I'm honestly not sure what's safer. I thought wearing gloves was the way to go until a bunch of people told me to look up what degloving is.

  • @rgas1525
    @rgas1525 Před 3 lety

    Where did you buy your floor pans

  • @javir10
    @javir10 Před 3 lety

    Where do you buy replacement floor panels? good project greetings

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      Got mine from Zedd Findings. Will talk about how well they fit in a future episode very soon.

  • @punkrockkkk
    @punkrockkkk Před 3 lety

    Whats the name of the tool and brand of tool you are using at 4:23? Love the videos Keep up the great work!

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +3

      Harbor freight 8 inch belt sander. I have a video review on that tool, so be sure to check that out.

    • @punkrockkkk
      @punkrockkkk Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners Thank you! Ill definitely check it out.

    • @ceesklumper
      @ceesklumper Před 3 lety +1

      Get 3M cubitron belts for it

  • @munsey9114
    @munsey9114 Před 3 lety

    Yay!

    • @munsey9114
      @munsey9114 Před 3 lety

      But what happened to Beethoven? Lol

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +2

      haha I know a lot of people like the classic music, but youtube doesn't provide enough variety of them free of licensing to keep things fresh. I'll probably go back to it later!

    • @munsey9114
      @munsey9114 Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners lol gotcha

  • @user-em1kw4xf4k
    @user-em1kw4xf4k Před 3 lety

    👍🏻💪🏼

  •  Před 3 lety

    There's a lot of rust on your 240Z.

    • @RestorationForBeginners
      @RestorationForBeginners  Před 3 lety +1

      Ugh tell me about it.

    •  Před 3 lety

      @@RestorationForBeginners Yeah. It's a pain in the ass.

  • @elmuneco-sanchez6245
    @elmuneco-sanchez6245 Před 3 lety

    @Restoration for Beginners woow you really doing great 👍 👏 job
    I'm watching every single video 📹.
    Hey have my CZcams channel to. I'm just getting started, I have some clips
    You can see how fixed rust problems,
    If you have time check my job and let me know what you think

  • @jamesstevens2236
    @jamesstevens2236 Před 3 lety

    I just heard you mention you’re in North Carolina. What area? I’m a few stages ahead on a Camaro in huntersville. Get in touch via @streamlinecamaro on insty

  • @ERICK4431
    @ERICK4431 Před 3 lety +2

    Hang in there brother! Just think of when the car is compelling done! 👍