Adding a LIGHT GUN to the Game Room! (No Sensors needed!)
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2022
- Reviewing the Sinden Light Gun, which is LCD television compatible with no external sensors needed. However, we do run into some slight hiccups and configuration problems.
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** Disclaimer: Paul paid for the Sinden Lightgun with his own money. All of the thoughts and opinions are our own ** - Hry
Good to see guests in the game room again! This is going to be a killer device if they can simplify the configuration.. I am really struggling getting mine to work
How to rectify these issues? MJR and DMP need to do a crossover at Seidman central! MAKE IT HAPPEN!
I found the bast way with mame was to use a bezel pack. I am still having issues but I got quite a few game working perfectly.
🤔 Yeah, any way to recreate the Time Crisis II or 3 twin screen, independent POV setups for 2 players? 🤷♂️
I ordered my Sinden light guns 10 months ago and they’re supposed to be here today! Pretty awesome this video comes out on the same day too.
You won't be disappointed but be prepared for some emulator configuration to get the best out of them
Mine is suppose to be here soon as well!!
@@cubeflinger Oh yeah I’m aware I’ll be spending a bit of time trying to tweak the multiple emulators I want to get this to work for.
@@yougotbitchslapped 😂 It probably wouldn’t have been so bad if they weren’t so off on the ETA.
They estimated I’d have my order by May 2021….so they were off by quite a bit lol.
My understanding is they’re now getting more realistic about their shipping dates as well as getting more efficient at manufacturing the guns so they can be shipped by the ETA.
@@megaemmie mine took over a year 😢
I like how organized and well-lit your game room is. Makes me wish my room was just as big.
They are looking to implement Mister support, says so in the December update, as well as " More original console support with plug and play adapters."
That’s awesome news!
@@baysidejrI saw that Sinden licensed the technology in his gun out to that Polymega console, which I guess is pretty close to plug and play emulation. No idea where they are on that though. I ordered my Sinden back in July last year, there has been some delays but it should be coming in the next 6 weeks. Honestly, I just want it for Point Blank 1 & 2. If I had enough space I'd have just bought a CRT to use my G-Con on.
That it doesn’t support many original consoles stopped me from buying one plus the price way too much
@@joshuahanton3186 sinden technology has been out for about a year on the arcade 1up big buck hunter
That’s awesome maybe I can finally play duck hunt on my Retron 5 and start collecting SNES Super Scope games.
This right here looks like such a blast!!
Half the arcades that I've been to lately have busted guns for their machines. Glad stuff like this exists for that very reason.
Same here dude I went to a 2 player Terminator 2 machine 1 player's gun was damaged to the point of having a player 1 is out of order sign player 2 barely worked but it still was able to register every 3 shots
There's a huge arcade/bar here and they have gun games and I was so excited to go, but I guess people got too drunk before playing because the guns didn't work right. I was so disappointed.
You can still get arcade light guns fairly easily. What's special about guns like this is that they work on modern displays.
The arcade bar close to me had a House of the dead 4 barely hanging on until it gave up the ghost recently. I worked on those as a sub contractor banging out 30 a day as a team. I am surprised it lasted this long with us lot working on building them.
You're lucky to be able to even find an arcade! None where I live.
I looked into this long ago because I was interested in building my own home arcade machine. I hesitated because it seemed too good to be true (and expensive), but holy cow, this is TOTALLY worth it! How amazing for all us 80s and 90s kids who haven't been able to get an experience like this in forever.
It is too good to be true.
I want a sinden too. But the thing is, I'm really PC illiterate when it comes to all the PC file configuration etc.. I read that the AimTrak is really user friendly, but like, double or triple the price of sinden. Despite that price, I might still pick one up. Then I'd need to configure some MAME shooters... (no clue how lol)
@@gm9984 I think those MAME emulators is a lot more complicated than it should be to get it up and running; same with Retroarch. The complexity might come from the amount of arcades it supports; so I generally find that CZcams setup guides help with it. And once setup, there isn't much that needs to be maintained.
I miss lightgun games so much, funny enough as they faded away they hooked me into speedrunning Typing of the Death back in the day.
Man you guys are amazing. I would've been frustrated! I was also so psyched to see DMP back in action on your channel. He just brings such a entertaining part and is super awesome.
Had my 2 Sindens for 1yr now. Absolutely love them. I have about 300 LG games rocking. Best purchase in a loooong time.
Got any favorites to recommend?
@samuelgershman6355 so many hard to narrow down but the RE games, HOTD series, & Virtua Cops ofc. I'm a big fan of the Wii games. When properly setup & upscaled they are some of the best imo...ghost squad & buck hunter are the best versions of those games. For newer games check out the teknoparrot lineup.
MJR, your videos are always so nice and chill to watch. Nothing screamy or too hyperactive. I love them and they help me through a tough time in my life. Keep it up 💪 much love
Keep your chin up, things will get better. I'm having a rough one too, cheers.
Nice to see Drunken Master Paul. Glad he's doing well. This was really cool but definitely something for the hardcore lightgun fans.
This gun is awesome! I never thought they'd be able to just use a camera as the basis to get a light gun working. Very impressive!
It does seem awesome, but looks like sensor-based stuff such as Gun4IR is actually better.
It's actually not so complicated. I think you only need to "see" the corners of the screen to calculate the aim position. A simple digital cam and a microcontroller can do the job.
It's great for zoom too.
This is amazing technological progress for the resurgence of retro gaming. I miss playing my light gun games for my master system, hoping that eventually this tech gets sophisticated enough to actually work on old consoles again with these new tvs. Great video, thank you! 😎👍
Support is there for PS1 and PS2 but needs a Pi and Arduino to make it work, there is a plan to sell pre made kit for running the gun on original hardware I believe but no timeframe yet
Retro light fun collecting got me into VR.
If you like these games. You’ll fucking love VR if you give it a try.
@@EmmsReality What are you using? EmuVR? I got a beta invite but haven't bothered with the setup yet. A good time?
@@McShufts thanks so much for the info, that's great to know!
@@EmmsReality yooo I'm so stoked for VR, been sick a couple months, but once I get those baselines back up I'll be trying out some VR for first time! Thank for reply :D
Great review. I think your fix with the led lights you did is gonna be a huge help for people.
That’s seriously impressive!! What an awesome setup holy cow!
Looks good. I remember hearing about this a few times and hoped it would live up to the promises. Im sure the configurations will get easier over time too.
You bring so much Positivity to this world, man. I'm so inspired by your real enthusiasm.
Thanks for the thorough video and it's always great to see Paul back.
A dream come true to finally play light guns on 50 inch flat screens :D
I'd love to get one of these! Light gun titles are awesome and it's kinda sad that not many exist anymore, but this was awesome! 😁
I'm glad DMP mentioned projectors at the end. I would love a follow up video once he's tested on his projector, please!
Thanks for sharing all the challenges in setting up this light gun.
I only intended to skim this video and check the conclusion, but I watched the whole thing because of how thoroughly you showed the setup which was really interesting and informative. This was the first of the modern guns I learned about and the method this uses appeals to me more than having a sensor bar. Nice that there are options out there. The recoil is another good option to have, though that's not something I'd want. I wish I could have been there -- not to hang out in the snazzy game room -- as I could have saved you several hours with that lighting problem. I've been dealing with that issue on and off for over a decade as I've had TV remotes that would stop working depending on the lighting conditions. Even the TV backlight can cause problems for things like cable remotes. There was a setting for my TV that helped. It's an older TV. But I understand that frustration of dealing with that. Anyway, a very good video. Too bad about that Windows setup issue. I'm glad I ditched Windows for day-to-day stuff and emulation, though I'll have to look around to see what the Linux setup is like for this. But this looks very cool and I'm glad to see they found a way to make this work on modern TVs.
I love how you keep it original on CZcams. The OG Classic Gaming Channel. Thank you Metal Jesus
Some nice detail in your explanation, thanks for that. Ive just ordered one so very useful
Been subbed for years , alway great content thank you ! 🙏🏼
DMP !! It's so good to see you two back together. Great episode Jason
Amazing! Good to see DMP again. Glad to see you guys together again, talking games 😊
I have two sindens and I absolutely love them! absolutely incredible product can vouch
Have you put significant hours in them? I'm really hoping they're built to last and that there's no longevity issues with the force feedback or anything. Really hoping they nailed these aspects, because the product just looks amazing and has been something I've wanted for years.
@@infasis I haven’t put in significant hours no, but the build quality certainly seems built to last. It feels much more solid than say an NES zapper, and those have survived this long
@@infasis pretty happy with with mine. Very solid shell. Trigger mod might be recommended to reduce travel. Not done it myself. solenoid is a little undervolted and I would say on usb power it is not pushed very hard at all. Actually that's a bit of an issue. Recoil is a bit wet if abused as there's not enough power to it.
@@cubeflinger trigger travel mod is a good idea. There are some levels on point blank that I can not get enough shots out in time.
As a clumsy man before I screwed on the holsters to my arcade machine I managed to knock one of mine off my cab. After a 6 foot drop there was no damage and the alignment of the camera was still the same.
Thank you for creating this video, I ordered mines the other day before seeing this. They should arrive in april, just in time to build a cheap computer and have all the roms ready! Can't wait!
Very timely video, I just got my pair of Sinden guns in the mail yesterday. I am going try them with my home arcade cabinet this weekend and will also be using them with Muster.
Glad you covered this one!!
I got 2 of these and they are awesome!! (when you get them to work). Definitely will need to tweak and tweak again from game to game. I have also yet to get this to work on my flat screen CRT. I have not reached out to their support team yet but am pretty sure it's able to work with any CRT as well. All in all, this is the best product on the market to play light gun games imo.
I missed DMP so much :((
I need some more of his cooking videos in my life.
Awesome! Would love to see some modern lightgun games! It's about time!
That is a great product. I would love to see that thing come together to work on any tv.
Saturday morning coffee with Metal Jesus is a tradition and the sun is shining today! Reminds me of getting up for Saturday morning cartoons as a kid haha! Thank you for all your hard work during the pandemic, you've helped many ppl!
Got mine two months ago and they are great, thankfully you can setup presets so only need to do the tweaks once for each game. Someone also made a nice preloader. Kind of wish I did the upgrade for the feedback but the price was hard to swallow at the time.
The idea to make it work they came up with is actually really interesting, there’s so much room to improve here.
Great timing with the review, I was thinking of getting one of those, but all the review I could find were pretty old.
Good to see Paul on! Hope his cookie company is doing well.
His cookie company is doing extremely well. He opened up 3 new locations in the past year. Another one in a few months.
@@MetalJesusRocks go Paul! Num num cookies!
@@MetalJesusRocks I swear to god I was trying to figure out how that was a kebler elves joke.
@@MetalJesusRocks just wanna let you know I'm getting comment spam replies on your channel claiming to be a giveaway winner, maybe you can setup a filter or something. It's usually buy some guy using your name but also includes "text me on Telegram"
@@jaczob666 It's a common problem a lot of channels are facing unfortunately. Not a whole lot can be done until CZcams decides to step in.
I started my own collection after watching your videos almost 2 years ago 🤘 I love my lightgun games ! Brought a 38inch crt tv last year to play them all again lol ps1 games & ps2 games but also had to get house of the dead 3 for my xbox original 🤘 pure nostalgia
Got mine a few months ago as I was an early backer. It will definitely need some more software for the regular public to want. Right now its a great enthusiast product that gets better the more time you invest into it. The Sinden team is aware of the programs limitations and are working on a better Gui so hopefully it just gets better from here on out.
Yes it seems really complicated in this video. Why can't programmers build a simple, intuitive interface? I guess if you're a cyborg it will make perfect sense.
@@sammyswanksmith4807 doesn't look much different to head track ir software, or normal emulator settings menus tbf
@@1invag And the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk is not much different from the Bell UH-1 Iroquois. But that doesn't mean flying a helicopter is simple and intuitive. It's not a glowing endorsement.
I have been messing with a dolphin bar on my arcade machine, but can't get 2 player working. Do the Sinden guns support 2 player lightgun games for MAME or FBA?
If the quality of everything they’ve done so far is any indicator, they’re very serious about making this the King and my wallet is willing (needing!) to wait until they’ve got a “Me-Proofed” plug & play setup. Until then are their sensor-based alternatives? Hacked Kinect or Wii clones? Preferably multi-console compatible? I know it can be done on CRTs as I had a 3rd party lightgun for Saturn and PlayStation; you just change the included controller port adapters to either system’s plug.
i would love to see more gameplay of this of you two playing co op
Very nice. I will definately keep an eye on this tech.
So great to see Master Paul back in action. Great stuff as always!
Thank you kindly!
Mine is set to be manufactured next week. Been waiting almost a year. So pumped.
great to see you, Paul
Love your content Jason! Top bloke. Been watching your channel for 10+ years now. I'll soon be graduating from University so looking forward to being able to bump up my small collection and enjoy some more free time :)
I need it!!! And great video, always good to see DMP 😃😁
Great overview! I'd too love this to eventually become compatible with the MiSTer.
You and me both!
Awe you have me I need to get one. Thanks for the great idea
Great to see Paul again! I know I'm not the only person thinking this could be a better product if a bigger company did run with this idea. I hope if it ever goes there that Sinden's creator gets to cash out on it
Yes was waiting for this, I bought one and really love it
Great to hear!
Great to see DMP. The man, the myth, the legend. And so soon after we had a Reggie appearance! I’m liking this trend :D
Hi yall! Thanks for the great videos☺
Thanks for watching!
It’s a similar process for steering wheels, each Mame game can need differing approaches, plus each emulator expects different inputs too. However, it’s definitely worth the effort, when you play with a wheel or a light gun, it’s difficult going back to a joypad. 👏🏻
I'm going for both now. Lucky and Wild here I come!
Another awesome vid. Thanks metal Jesus.
This is a very ambitious project, fo sho...🤘🏼💯✔️
I've missed vids with MJR and Drunken Master Paul so much! Love you guys
My pair its on its way, thank you for making this video.
Glad I could help
While I've played a few Light Gun games myself in arcades when I was a kid, the hay day of the Light Gun era was a little before my time. But I completely understand the significance of technology like this. LG games were a popular genre in the days of yore, and I'm sure there were a lot of gamers and collectors who were worried about it being limited by the hardware which is becoming increasingly harder to find. So this was really cool to see. It could help push old LG games into the future! Great video MJR and DMP!
It's also good to note that on the Sinden Wiki, there are borders with artwork on the sides that work really well for wide screen tvs for the games. Makes it look polished
Always love waking up to a little metal jesus and coffee in the morning!
Looks very fun!
Another early video upload let’s go 🙌🏾🔥
I wonder if having the TV against a solid dark color might've worked with the lights on (except perhaps that light string along the bottom). It looked like it was locking onto the borders around your brick wall occasionally in the test screen, as all it does is look for a white rectangle not necessarily the one on screen. I wonder if software could filter it out by flickering the border on a the display briefly if it gets a really off detection, but that would probably be annoying to some users.
Got my siden a while back love it
Always good seeing DMP
I miss hanging with the dude.
Nostalgia overload! I put so much money into time crisis and point blank back in the day.
Really interested in this device!
I tried this light gun last week at CES 2022. It is LEGIT!
I got my sinden on the very first kickstarter. Great piece of kit and a must for any modern TV game room.
It needs a lot of work, still.
Sindin light guns are amazing!!! I have an aimtrack, but I plan on upgrading eventually.
I've always appreciated drunken master Paul's enthusiasm!!
This is so cool. I might have to invest in an upgrade for my current AimTrak light gun
I was a backer and got this early on. Its a pain in the ass to setup. Hope it gets my user friendly but when it works its great
As soon as you showed the "show raw video" window I started thinking of all of the funny things I could do with this as a webcam 😂
Love these dudes
Just got mine! It's a quality piece of HW! long cable, and very sturdy! Heavy too!
Nice vid, I've a question ....the lightgun work fine with retro console like ps2???
Brilliant seeing you and DJP back on a video together! Interesting product....but very niche I would think. However serious commitment by the the producer.
I've had mine for a long time. The only problem I had with mine, was that it didn't like my PC's front USB. Once plugged into the back, it was fine. It's been great ever since!
Congratulations! Also, I really love your pickups videos with Reggie! When will we see another pickups video?🤔
Take care.
I had issue with my order and within next day it was resolved. Their communication / support is above and beyond . Bravo to them.
As for the mister project, I've read online those are his next project to tackle after all his drivers, software and logistics shipment is taken care of.
Anyone has issue with ultrawide monitor setup.? I am trying to make it work with my 34 inch ultrawide.
Great video btw. Thanks.
Finally got my 2 guns. Man what a chore to setup… these things are not for the weak and weary,but its worth the trouble…they are awesome
Awesome video!! Have you guys tried the Aimtrak? Which one do you ilke more?
Awesome video guys! If you haven't tried it, House of the Dead 4 on PS3 with the Move Controllers and the SharpShooter accessory on a large TV is pretty awesome as well! You get the shot-gun reload mechanic and vibration (not as good as dedicated recoil, but cool nonetheless) making it pretty immersive (especially fun in coop!)
Hey, there! Is it possible to make the original PS3 Motion Controller (I can't remember the name) work on a regular PC monitor?
I had a long chat with Andy Sinden at Play Expo Blackpool last year. He had a couple of demo units on the go. He's such a nice guy and the product is great, it just works. The Recoil model is rather heavy though, and after 10 minutes of furious Virtua Cop action i definitely felt the weight!
what a great time to be alive :)
Omg so cool i'm gonna get my hands on that thank you MJ! i didn't know it was possible. Btw are there other pc light guns? and if so will you be doing more videos about them and maybe lightgun games?
No frickin way!
Drunken master Paul!
This channel will eternally be in its heyday as long as the friends keep returning!
Great video!! Awesome to see Drunken Master Paul again!!😁👍
With crosshairs on can create impression of lack of sensitivity in MAME, turn it off as the crosshair often cannot keep up with the gun. But get the preference :)
was wondering about that. thanks for clarification! seems like an awesome product.
Increase the sensitivity of x and y. It depends on the game tho
Jak and Daxter: the precursor legacy. It looks like everyone has hysteria about this game lately. Am working on platinum this baby on ps Vita, what a game❤️
Working on %100 on original disc 😎
DMP IS BACK!! More of this MJ, more of thisss
Missed seeing DMP. Glad he's back on the channel
This is so cool sir!
Awesome Gun plus DMP in the house!! Yes!
This is awesome. I want one of these for my Batocera PC in the family room. I was looking at my Namco light gun for my PS2, got all nostalgic and realised I need to set the old dinosaur crt up to use it. I'm one of those people that actually prefers emulation to original, the crisp high res graphics just appeals to me, especially as I'm a PC gamer the majority of the time.