F-150 Lightning 1 Year Review: The Good, Bad, & Ugly
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Mitchell has officially had his F-150 Lightning for a year and we are going to go over the good, the bad, and the ugly. Starting off with something absolutely amazing about this truck is this mega power frunk. This has been absolutely amazing for storage and tailgating. Going to the bed of the truck, one bad thing we have noticed is the condensation in the light bar. We know this is a recall for Ford, and we see that it is also happening on this Lightning. A good thing about the bed is the extra charging with up to 7.2 kilowatts worth of max power coming out of the bed of the vehicle. Now onto the inside of the F-150 Lightning, We still absolutely love the center console shifter and the interior work surface. Now hoping into fast charging. After keeping track of all the times Mitchell has fast charged, it has been 32 times, which comes out to $248 spent on fast charging. Long story short is with the current price of gas, you'd be looking at $3,045 and if Mitchell were to have paid for the entire year himself it would only have come out to around $1,200 which is a big difference. The last thing that is absolutely amazing about this vehicle is Bluecruise. Ford is even coming out with an updated Blue Cruise that will allow you to switch lanes handsfree. You just hit the blinker and it changes lanes for you. Overall this vehicle has been absolutely amazing the last year!
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0:00 Intro
0:26 F-150 Lightning
1:55 Frunk
3:14 Bed
4:26 Interior
4:50 Charging
9:37 Bluecruise
11:55 Outro - Auta a dopravní prostředky
"A different tool and a different fuel for a different kind of job" - AWESOME! I wish I would have come up with that, and I'm definitely using it.
What exactly is/was the "different kind of job"? If he said it I missed it. And I missed it because by two minutes into this video it became very obvious to me this is no "honest review," it's a sales pitch. That's when I stopped watching.
Thanks for the update, Mitchell! We love our Mach-E. I'm not a truck guy, but if we had room in our garage for it, I'd totally get the Lightning for its utility. I don't have toys to haul, so the towing drawbacks don't bother me.
“I drive it like it stole it” 😂 Great, engaging, informative video! Thanks
Got my '22 Lariat in January of this year. About 12,500 miles in to the truck and it's my 7th F150. Really love the truck, and great points covered in this video. Keep up the good content.
Great Video Mitchell! Just curious what mountains did you travel to and how far was that trip?
I'd like to say you did an excellent job at describing you experience with this truck . Thank you !
I guess I shouldn't comment while the video is playing, but now that it is finished you are spot on regarding costs of energy. I am spending about 42% of what I spent on my previous Audi SQ5 which got really good mileage. I only pay 12.6 cents in Central Indiana for my electricity so i am very pleased. I also bought the Ford Maintenance Package from Flood Ford and with 8 years, 100k mileage it cost a little over $800 dollars just as you explained in your oil change example. It is not for everyone, but great around town as you state, when we pull our 5th Wheel we use my F450 which is built for such tasks.
Nothing beat an ESP. good choice.
Great video! Thanks for helping us to understand its capabilities and real world experience with it.
Absolutely awesome. Thx for the info, I can't wait to get mine
Awesome video, thank you for keeping track and taking the time to put these together.
What type of bed cover are you using? The area where it retracts to looks pretty small compared to others I’ve seen where I’d loose 2.5’ of bed space to accommodate the retracting mechanism. 4:16
Roll-N-Lock M-Series Retractable Truck Bed Tonneau Cover
@@wgabriel thank you!
Impressive numbers Mitchell. When the lightning pro debuted for $39,995 I was very excited for the truck. (Not that you could actually get one at that price). The thing that turned me off was the fact that when the govt announced the $7,500 tax credit on these trucks Ford jacked up the price so high it completely negated the tax credit benefit for the consumer. I will stick with gas until it's no longer an option. Ford doesn't care about their customers, but I think that's true of all corporations these days.
Have corporations ever done anything where they care about their customers more than shareholders? Ford raised the prices because they had significant demand (you know. That free market thing), and because the costs of producing it rose significant throughout the pandemic. As more production flows and the initial demand wave subsides, I guarantee you that they will lower the prices.
Don't "not buy" something because a company raises the prices. You need to "not buy" it because the price/value isn't there anymore. If you would buy an electric car at 40k with a 7.5k rebate, would you buy it at 50k? 60k? Are you buying your gas truck for 32k? (or less if you factor in fuel costs).?
Sticking with "gas until it is no longer an option" sounds like a political statement, not a consumer one. That's your choice of course, but don't pretend it isn't anything other than that.
@PianoBoy99 my current gas truck I paid $32,498 for. I bought it new. 2wd (I don't get that much snow where I live) and it does great. Also no I won't spend 50k on any vehicle electric, gas or otherwise.
@@liamfirebird6922 Then that is good. You are waiting for the low-cost trucks to come on the market. Which will happen after the higher end is saturated first. No problem. Or perhaps when the used market kicks up. And that 60k lightening with 70k miles goes for 25k in the used market. That will happen eventually as well. The market just isn't where you need it to be yet. That's not a problem. I just hope it plays out the way you want it to. One thing I'm worried about is that between covid and electric vehicle transition auto makers will no longer make low-cost vehicles. They will just refuse to do it. In which case consumers like you will be in the lurch. That won't be fair, and I hope it doesn't happen.
@PianoBoy99 I hope so. Charging would be much cheaper than gas! I really was psyched for the Lightning. I'm an admin worker in a factory so I get the costs going up. But Ford literally announced their price increase the same week the tax credit hit. That just rubbed me the wrong way I guess.
You're right, no corporation cares for their customers or employees these days, all they care about is profit.
Thanks for all the helpful information! I'm leaning further towards this solution to my commute! I wonder if the blue driving thing you talks about is included...or like Tesla do you have to pay 6 or 12k extra for that.
Does the extra truck price compared to a regular ecoboost or V8 coyote pays off?
Great video man. Informitive, upfront and honest. Gotta respect that
Excellent video. I have had my XLT Lightning since last year. 2 weeks after I got it, I took my daughter to college in Florida (from Michigan), so the cross-country thing done right away. Even the infrastructure has really improved since then, but looking forward to the Tesla network in 2024. Most of my charging is at home with my Ford Charging Station Pro that DTE helped me get hooked up. I really cannot tell if there is an increase in my electric bill. Feels like the charging cost is a wash, especially with the time-of-day plan they have me on now. I have the extended range battery and can see that I should get over 300 miles on a charge, but simply not reasonable. One thing I like that GM has done is give the expected range with something reasonable like 2.1 mi/kWh rather than expecting folks to drive so slowly (they estimated this on their Silverado EV). If you drive 500 miles of some city and some highway, you could come out to 2.0 or 2.1, but no way you're getting much better if you drive it like you stole it. I hope a standard is set like that and future vehicles get measured against it, instead of promising massive range, etc. I got the tax credit on mine last year, but that being said, comparing the loan remaining for me and the value of the truck on KBB, I am upside down a little on the loan to value after a year and a month. I don't have Blue Cruise, but I wish I did. Looks like you're enjoying it. The acceleration of the Lightning is my favorite thing. It's a rocket. I love it.
Very well done and explained. Thank you. 😀
My year will be next month and I should have 36k miles by then.
I would like to get the drive unit fluid changed and sent off for testing, can one of your locations handle that?
My luck with local dealerships has been bad.
My lightbar was full of water and shorting out the lights 3 months in and my dealership said that was normal, I had to go through 2 more to find one to replace it under warranty.
I still love the truck.
I really like the Lightning. I ended up with a 2022 Platinum Hybrid. I tow a camper so it seemed a better choice for my needs. I have been highly impressed with it too. I got 25.2 and then 25.4 mpg in a town driving around in the Helen Georgia area this summer- not towing of course. Towing I get about the same as my previous F150- 12mpg. (PS. These mpg figures are not from the truck computer but at the pump figures).
Thank you for sharing your experience honestly. People I know who have this truck, love it.
Great update Mitchell. I work in construction and am rocking a lightning pro. Some of the other guys think I’m crazy but I absolutely love it. Gas just crested 5$ per gallons around here and with my solar set up I couldn’t care less.
With the new subsidies you get 30% off solar
How often are you using it to plug in equipment? I’m considering it so I can get power out in corners of our farm without generators etc.
@JonathanStewartMusic That is actually one feature I am not really taking advantage of at the moment. Most of my current small tools are battery powered (Dewalt 20v) and my larger tools are gas powered. That will probably change in the future now that I have the lightning's power available to me but for now I'll use my current tools until they burn out.
And when the batteries need replacing?
I set up a solar system for mine as well. I haven't paid anything to get around for 4 months now. I won a local truck drag on dirt that almost paid for the electricity before the solar lol. I the same spec truck as this.. color and everything. 1 year and 9.6k miles. It's an amazing vehicle, especially for local driving
Appreciate your perspective and candor. Good stuff.
Cool info. Such a well rounded truck!
Be interesting to see what the trade in/resale value will be down the road.
Indeed , especially if the battery gets tired , you could always buy one cheap and convert it to gas 😜.
@effyourself3925 there is a video out there of a guy bought this same truck a 22 lightening and owned it for a year and a half. Carmax offered him 44,000 the ford dealership offered him 40,000.
Great Vid! Pls advise what it equates overall to MPG
Take the difference in what a normal F-150 costs to purchase vs what your Lightning costs, and how long your $1,900 savings per year would take to break even.
True. These vehicles certainly aren't for everyone. I'm actually happy about that because our electrical grid simply isn't ready for that. And if I hadn't had 2 vehicles to trade in on my lightning platinum, I probably wouldn't have been able to afford it. Being 74 and single my lightning replaces my 2018 prius that I normally drove and my 2014 F150 that I need to haul and tow things. Those 2 got my price down to about $50k and didn't have to pay sales tax on the trades. Perfect truck for me local use only charge at home only. Beats the 10 mpg I got with my F150 and even beats the 50+ mpg I got with my prius. I have no complaints about range ever.
Almost forgot... little to no maintenance. Just took it in for 10k checkup they topped off antifreeze & wiper fluid & rotated my tires. No more oil changes. Probably no more brake work. It has what's called 1 pedal driving. The only time I touch the brake pedal is to put it in gear.
New tires every 25k miles
I priced out an XLT F-150 4x4 and compared it to an XLT Lightning and the price was within $1,000. I didn’t compare the higher end models though, I only compared the XLT.
When I picked mine up, there was a f150 tremor and it was 6k less.. I installed solar to charge only my truck. I haven't paid anything for 4 months now. Plus I probably won't ever have to replace my brakes.
Nice review. It does summarize the most important factor for any vehicle purchase; use case. For the average person, their use case make these lightnings a great option for a lot of people but they listen to people who have never used one or who have a vastly different use case.
Fair to say , but it remains to be seen how these things will pan out as the years roll on , the range is only fair when the vehicle is brand new , how much will the range diminish in say 4 or 5 years , or 10 or 12: years , and if the range does get too bad , how much is that gigantic battery going to cost to replace ?
And as we see these units , they are either very new or not old , and I don’t see any accessories on them like roll bars , driving lights , a winch , big chunky rims and tyres , etc.
All these things where very common on conventional pick ups , how is the range going to when people stop using them like precious toys.
This is a excellent video. Thank you.
Bro, I bet you're one hell of a salesman. My Tesla Model Y costs me 2 cents/km when charging at home. That is 1/8 th the price compared to my Ford Escape, which costs me 17 cents/km on fuel. I am keeping the Escape for the snow, cause everybody needs a rust bucket. Cheers from Canada.
I had a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins. That when diesel is $3.90 a gallon I was paying about $12,000 in fuel a year right now I would be paying closer to 20000 a year in fuel costs my Tesla saves me a lot of money add no mechanics mechanics
We just bought the Mack E and love it. I also have the Powerboost only because we pull a camper and didn’t want the hassle of charging every 125 miles when pulling our camper.
This is a great video and very informative. As a Rivian owner, I really like the extra outlets in the frunk and the fold-flat work surface. However the thumbnail and the "am I gonna sell it blah blah" are click-baitey and trite. A shame to turn away viewers so early in an otherwise informative video.
Edit: on a personal note, where I live electricity is .05 cents per kWh. So I pay around $60/mo. to charge. Prior to that I was paying $200-$300 or more per month for gas. It's a huge savings, but most importantly being able to charge at home means less time driving to gas stations, waiting in line and pumping gas, which ultimately means being able to spend more time at home with my family. That is the ultimate value of an EV to me. 🙂
.05 per kWh?! that includes taxes, fees and everything?! That is 1/3 of my cost. That's almost free. What area do you live in?
@@matthewputnam7486 Northern Virginia. We have a really good electric co-op (NOVEC) which gets a lot of their power from biomass and other renewable sources (they even reclaim methane from the local dump to provide power). We signed up for their special EV rate which is .05 cents off-peak, .11 cents during peak hours. We charge our EV at night as well as schedule most major appliances, including running the AC at night (for sleeping). Keeps our electric bill low. 😊
Fuel savings become $15,000 in 5 years in your case. Then you need compare charging set up, purchase pricing, and resale value in five years against an ICE F150. It’s not more affordable. It’s a lifestyle choice. Full disclosure: I am all in on this or the Silverado or the CyberTruck but I don’t sell snake oil. It’s more costly.
Is that tonneau cover a Ford part, if so can you share the part number?
Very well done, thanks!!
I’m rolling with same Lariat, except with a Four Wheel Camper Raven on it, with Recon Grapplers. Camp off road only and haven’t run out of Juice in the Eastern Sierras yet. 1.7 with that setup
That is excellent and useful data.
Great detailed video. Thanks.
Spot on review!! I have my lighting pro sr for 1 year and 14,000 miles. Was gonna flip it but it’s so nice to drive I can’t let it go.
Maybe you’ll be able to part with it in 8 years when the battery replacement cost makes you weep. If you try to sell it right before that replacement, you’ll get significantly les than “blue-book” value because any informed buyer of used vehicles factors “planned maintenance” into their offers and dealership won’t be touching them unless you buy an overpriced new one. Good luck.
I have had the exact same spec as you for a year. I have 9.6k on it now. I keep an eye on it like a hawk. I drive conservative but you don't have to do much to be gone fast. Around town (25-45mph), 50+F, i see about 4.1-4.4 kwh averages. Winter i was at 2.4-2.7. Highway (55-65) summer 2.4, winter 2.0. Interstate (75) summer 2.0 winter 1.7.
Absolute worst case we Christmas. 0 degrees, not able to preheat and it was windy on interstate and rock roads, i had able 180 miles of range out of 320.
Makes you miss all that waste heat from an inefficient gas engine burning hundreds of dollars of gas from halfway around the world.
Where do you live, Europe? Oh wait, biden is "president." Yeah, it's very possible the oil, that was refined into gasoline, came from halfway around the world. Iran and Venezuela to be spacific. Yup, that's VERY possible, for sure.@@andyfeimsternfei8408
Own a Lightning with a standard battery Lariat just drove from Central Oregon to Los Angeles and back and love it. It is a road trip warrior but even better around town. Thanks for spreading the word about this vehicle.
What an honest appraisal of this car - I for one cannot understand all the hate for EVs they are just cars powered in a different way. They offer some awesome benefits but they also have their drawbacks.
Let’s stop politicising the issue - if it does the job better then buy it after you try it. If not then don’t- it’s as simple as that - keep up the good work 👍
Hi I am looking at a XLT 2023 model as I am getting a good deal on this. Should I wait and pay more for the 2024 which has a heat pump or continue with the 2023 good deal for the XLT?
I’m in CA how important is the heat pump? Should I get a 23 or wait till 24? Thoughts?
Thanks for sharing
I don't see anything about V2H... the base battery on this thing is 7.5x Powerwall... that's
almost the price of the Truck. Yes, it'll cost you a few more grand for the hardware to connect the Truck to the House, but if you're looking for battery backup, I think this is one of the best solutions. The rest is gravy.
Exactly why I put the $down when they announced it. I can't justify just spending a lot on just a car, but this is my back up generator, my mobile power back (powered my camper after towing it). And it's so much cheaper to operate.
Nice vid bro clear and to the point
Thank you for your honesty
Is the charging speed an issue? I liked the video. Dealer here says there can’t sell them. Guessing due to the interest rates. They’re making a new trim between xlt and lariat. I wish they made it look different than the ice one. The Silverado has a unique look to it
Excellent!! Smoothly done Review!!! 😊❤. I am so buying it the chance I get!
excellent review
It's funny that "Kilowatts" is actually fewer syllables and easier to say than "kW," it's abbreviation. This is a fantastic video. Thanks for sharing.
What’s the warranty on the battery? And cost to replace it?
Fed ev battery warranty is 8 years or 100,000 miles in every state except for Cali.
Cali pushes to 10 years and 120,000 miles of coverage. The Senate after 2025 is gonna require all ev manufacturer's to cover it to 10yr 120k.
We made a video detailing the cost of the battery
That frunk is incredible!
I have a platinum and normally average 2 mpk in warmer weather. That not as good as I hoped for but I only charge at home and pay $.12/kwh in the summer and $.08/kwh in the winter but achieve a little less than 2 mpk. An all year average of about $6/100 miles. Depending on gas prices that's still not bad mileage. If I had to use public chargers at around $.43/kwh that would equate closer to $21.50/100 miles not great regardless of gas prices. $10.75 to drive 50 miles. Gas would have to cost $5.38/gal to just get 25 mpge. Consequently, I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to use public chargers. The only plus would've been little to no maintenance. So bottom line. If you only drive locally and only charge at home this is a great vehicle. Someone who lives in town and only drives in town it would be even better anywhere from 3-5 mpk.
Is little to no maintenance really the reality? Seems to me, you are saving your maintenance costs to pay them, times 3, when you replace that battery at the 8 year mark to the tune of $25,000…….,if you’re lucky enough to be able to find a replacement. In my opinion, the cost of battery replacement alone dissolves any savings on gas and maintenance. Instead of paying use and upkeep charges incrementally, like occurs with gas fill up and oil changes/maintenance, you pay them all at once when the battery reaches its end of life. In other words, the monetary savings are illusionary.
Consider this: the dealer offers a gas-powered vehicle at a 30% markup but offers to pay for gas use (reasonable average) and cover all maintenance for the first 8 years (a warranty) BUT you MUST pay to have a new engine put in at that time with NO GUARNTEE as to the marked-up cost of that engine OR IF YOU WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT ENGINE AT THAT TIME. If they want to sell these, they need to sell a replacement battery warranty plan, that guarantees you only have to pay a certain amount to replace your battery within a certain time frame. Then the consumer could make a wise, informed decision.
With gasoline-powered vehicles, owners know that if they perform good maintenance on the vehicle, they can prevent most costly repairs. Unfortunately , there is no way to keep the battery from reaching its end of life. It’s a chemical component in a sealed container. There is nothing the owner can do to prevent that costly repair. In fact, normal use in cold climates will hasten end of battery life. Lithium does not like cold temperatures. Even if it’s garage-kept, there’s still times in the winter that you’re going to need to use your vehicle for commuting. And then it’s sitting in your employer’s parking lot for over eight hours. Nothing you can do about that.
Lastly, I’ll add this real life antidote. I went out four summers ago and bought an electric lawnmower. I bought the top-of-the-line brand for $650, at about $200 MORE than the comparable gas-powered model. It worked fantastic for the first two seasons. By the third season, it would only hold a charge of about 40%. This last season, it wouldn’t even last 5 minutes. Meaning, at first I could mow my entire lawn in one hour on one charge. By the third season, I could only mow about 20 minutes at a time (a third of my half acre) and then I’d have to charge the battery for about an hour to an hour and a half. Not convenient. BY this season, the fourth one, the battery would only last about 5 minutes. Two swipes and done. Totally unusable. So I was forced to buy a new battery and bought at the lowest price I could find….$399. When I bought my mower, replacement batteries were selling for $149. How much was my same model mower WITH the new battery selling for? $599. Yep. Less than I paid for it four years ago, despite the inflated price on the BATTERY……Because they know they’re going to get you on the sale price of the future batteries. Or you throw out the entire mower and buy a new one. And yes, I did everything the manual said to preserve my batteries’ life expectancy. The charger was placed in my climate-controlled dining room (not particularly attractive but where I had a open outlet to keep it plugged in and also under cool conditions) and both charger and battery were stored off-season in a cabinet in that room. In other words, the only time my battery was subjected to anything but a 70% degrees ambient temperature was while actually mowing the lawn. And yet it barely lasted 4 years. If I add my initial purchase cost of $650 to the battery replacement cost of $399, I can expected to get 8 years use for just over $1000. My old Craftsman (approximately $300) gas mower lasted 15 years with routine maintenance and about 6 gallons of gas per season. So the savings to change to electric, if any, were minimal. The only viable reasons to go electric-powered anything is pollution reduction and ease of use. Financial, it’s a wash or small loss.
If they truly want it the electrical conversion of power in this country to be readily accepted by the consumer and therefore a success, the government could step in and require these manufacturers to guarantee battery replacements at a cost relative to what they were when the consumer purchased the product. Gas prices fluctuate, but not more than double in a four year period. Consumers want dependability and stability in the products they purchase. Provide that, then adoption of electrical vehicles will be much slower.
Correction: **Fail to provide that, and the adoption of electric vehicles will be much slower.
What a great review!
What does it cost to charge it, the charger replacement, the upkeepof the charging components???
Great breakdown
I enjoyed this video but would like to know what you paid per kwh when fast charging. It was about $.43/kwh or about $.32/kwh if you paid a $4 monthly fee. That would be $21.50 - $16.00 per 100 miles respectively if you averaged 2 mpk. Since then like everything the prices have gone up.
There is always an additional charge that most people don't realize. But once again we never get something for nothing. Whenever AC is converted to DC there's a loss. So for every say 50 kwh used by the truck it will take more than 50 kwh of electricity to replace that 50 kwh that was used. The loss isn't great but like everything, over time it adds up.
I really hope to own one of these in a few years. Hopefully after we get settled in a house so I can have a home charger hooked up, and also by then they should have any little bugs worked out with it. They just seem to suit my every need. I like having a truck, but I simply don't tow much. I use the bed and 4wd enough to still need a truck, but I don't exactly tow much at all, and all the extra storage would be perfect. Plus they're fast af and I love that lol.
GREAT REVIEW.
I love my Lightning, at about 17K km. I pay about $.08 per kWh,- Hydro Quebec.
How is range in winter ?
I am in Ontario and thinking of buying one. Just worried about range
@ANKITPATEL-om2mb about 390km of range during summer at 100% SOC, or 363km at 90%. For winter, at 90% SOC, the range is between 300km and 330km
Great information..thanks
I've talked to folks who say "but you can get a new gas powered F-150 for $30k!" ... if you get a 2-wheel drive, regular cab. Comparing the Lightning with other F-150s that have 4-wheel drive, crew-cab and with similar features shows that they are comparably priced.
When I got mine, (extended range max tow Lariat lightning) it was 4k more expensive than the gas equivalent without the on board power or trunk. I made that up on the tax break.
So you are keeping it?
Great video. Only thing I would add. The level 3, DC fast charger is only recommended by carmakers for occasional use currently, due to battery life issues.
Not true with Tesla. Not sure what Ford says.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 Actually, Tesla only fast charges to 80%, then reduces charge rate to preserve battery life.
Rational thinking. Keep up the educational efforts
Wow $1200 for the entire year for charging cost is darn impressive. Even though my electric utility says $0.08/kw, my EV charging costs are technically $0.14/KW after I add the distribution fees and sales tax. To fill up an F150 in Ottawa Canada today is about $195 to $200. It’s $1.75/litre, and the big tank is 136 litres (36 US gallons). Assuming a 110 L fill up, it’s about $192 to fill it up. Thanks for making this video.
My question is what kind of efficiency can a normal person get driving 120 km/h (70 mph)?
I have seen plenty of other folks average 2.4 mi/kwh
That still depends on your stop and go driving habits and the model. My platinum being heavier usually averages 2 mpk driving mostly 55 mph roads with a little 70 mph and a little stop & go city driving. I have gotten 2.4 mpk when driving a little slower than the speed limits. To be honest public chargers are very expensive. I believe the cheapest cost is around $.32/kwh and normally closer to $.43/kwh. I do believe even with the extended range battery a lariat or xlt will get better range than my platinum does. I only charge at home and only drive locally. Towing can nearly cut my range in half, but that also was the case with my gas F150. People just don't seem to pay much attention to that. We never get something for nothing, those that say differently about Towing anything are not telling the truth. Hauling, range isn't affected quit so much. I love my lightning but isn't a truck for long distance traveling or towing because you must depend on public chargers.
@@pstoneking3418 thanks for sharing. My Dad’s f150 ecoboost goes from 11 L/100 km, to 25 L/100 km while towing is very large 32 ft 5th wheeler trailer
@@kadebishop6580 Thank you for the information . 😀
I have a 22 Lariet Lightning. At 70mph, I get 340km in the summer and 220km in the winter with a standard range battery.
That is a good review of the truck, I have always liked the truck because it looks like my regular F150 lariat, The price tag for one now is high, and if I was to replace my F150 diesel I would look at the lightning, would be nice if they were to adopt the 800v setup to allow to charge faster and not need the really heavy duty cable to handle the heat and amperage.
The faster any lithium batteries are charged, drastically shortens its life expectancy.
Been wondering about how an el camino/ute type EV would do.
Unless you can swap out the charger for the Tesla spec plugs, I’d swap it for a later year.
Awesome review- overall quite positive. So why the image of a thumbs down on the video link?
Probably cause more people are more likely to watch video if it appears to have negativity. Actually good strategy
DID THAT BLUE CRUISE UPGRADE HAPPEN YET ? AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEOS !!!
If you don't tow, whats with the tri-ball? Tell me more about that tonneau cover.
My work truck wastes around 1200-1300$ a month in gas ⛽️ trying to convince my dad to get this truck to replace what I have
The cost and depreciation and Anxiety aren’t worth it.
How many miles did you put on the truck tho? To equate to only $1900? Because i drive 25k miles a year at least. So im sure it would add up to more. Not including the taxation they are about to put on electric vehicles in texas.....
I am considering one right now, but like most reluctant just be cause it’s something new and trying to keep it charged. You also have your Bronco that you can drive, would you still like it as your only vehicle? Me I am a chicken to try new things. Great video as always!!
I actually saw a video where the owner of a 2013 tesla model s changed his batteries at 240,000 miles… save 1100 a year for 10 years and you’re good to go
Thinking of returning my EcoFlow battery and just getting one of these
How are the tires holding up with wear???
I would consider a lightning, but I do tow a travel trailer and need the peace of mind of being able to comfortably go 100+ miles while towing
You can't count on any electric vehicle for hauling or towing. Its just not there
If it was local towing it would be fine. Two downsides about public chargers, too far apart & too costly.
I can tow anything that my 2014 F150 would tow. But if I needed it for traveling, I wouldn't have purchased it.
Public chargers are most of the time broken.
It also depends on your camper. I have an extreme popup (off road tires). So it isn't a huge sail. It drops by .3kwh. So interstate at 70 mpg from 2.0 to 1.7. About 260 miles to 220 miles. It's about the drag not the weight.
The cost and depreciation and Anxiety aren’t worth it.
Great video Mitchell but I am surprised you do not have a spray in bed liner, it really helps control scratches and keep it looking nice. I also have a bedrug which is really helpful on the knees when moving around trees or shrubs in spring planting season. I have had more than my share of software gremlins but hopefully that will get worked out.
Great video. Yep, people love to politicize so kudos to you for putting g it out there. Any of these trucks with 6.5 beds?
Great video. You were one of the first reviewers I watched on this vehicle. You were AMAZED by its speed. You’re such a smart man! Instead of being influenced by ignorant people who hate EV’s you learned why EV’s are useful for you and your needs and when it is not. You clearly enjoyed skipping the $120 fill ups and 3000 mile oil changes and recognize if you don’t tow far this is a powerful, smooth workhorse. Thank you for your due diligence and understanding what this vehicle can and cannot do like any other truck you buy.
Everybody knows a truck owners main concern is 0-60 time !
Thank you for the great honest appraisal! Beats commercials too! Sandy Munro/Munro Live test drive all their cars before they deconstruct them, that is very helpful also!
Thanks for posting this. My hubby and I need a new car and we want an EV but we need space for 3 kids. He is not a mini van guy. I think this is the car we need.
A friend has a Lightning Lariat 1. Towing is a killer, less than half the range towing a 3,500 lb. boat/trailer. 2. The charging infrastructure is terrible, broken units and less than available charging speeds. It’s not so much range anxiety, it’s remote charging anxiety.
Ford has now partnered with Tesla for supercharging
Nice review, i like it how you deliver the information and it is smooth as natural as it gets
*plus politicise a car, yall nuts fr
Does this truck take the same charger as the wrangler 4xe?
Looking at getting a new 2023 Lightning XLT and with the $15k discount now it is a no brainer to trade in my 2018 Mustang GT
First, maybe I missed it but what was the cost of this $35,000 truck? Some have paid $91,000 for one!
fantastic video and great, balanced outlook on EVs and taking the politicization out of it. subbed.
I love the honesty, that this EV truck is not for everyone! And that it has drawbacks and benefits. I agree and have one on order. I understand the pros and cons. Good to go....thanks!!!!!
I really like hearing about this truck. I have been happy with my current EV, and have been sniffing around the idea of adding a truck to my 'fleet'.
Greta video and review! I have a Mach E Premium XR now - love it - but I have also wanted the F150 Lightning - I just can't justify the huge $$ for it.
That means you are keeping it. Good Call.
Ha. Exactly my point. I don't really need a pick up since i don't tow or put anything on the bed and the gas consumption is crazy, but with this being electric I may actually consider it because i like the idea of a big cabin for my 2 kids. The frunk seems quite large as well. Perfect for daily things like backpacks or groceries.
Wondering why you have that shiny hitch in the receiver if you don’t tow with it? Great review!
Recovery... ?
Had the opportunity to take a lightning for a test this drive this past summer and absolutely loved it.
No more ICE vehicles for this guy.
Presently drive a Ranger, waiting for Ford to come with a smaller EV truck.😎
I love my 2023 Lightning Pro. I had a chance to trade out of it for a lux package Maverick hybrid - and I passed. And I do a lot of long distance driving; seven trips of more than 500 miles, including three of 1500+ miles.
Let me guess. You work for Ford
What do you mean pro?
Seems good for your use case, which is the norm for who buys half ton trucks anyway. I need to tow distances so tech just isn’t there yet. But I cant wait till it is 😎
Do dealers like you mind if other EV brand owners use your chargers? I always feel a little awkward pulling my Chevy into a Nissan dealer and using their fast charger on a road trip.
Cold weather is really hard on these vehicles and the batteries of course what if you want to sit somewhere when it's cold and you want to run the heater what does that do or night driving with all the lights on and everything
Doesn't tow - has a hitch. ;) Honestly I would have a Lightning right now but unfortunately I do tow and it's just not feasible with current EV tech. We'll get there but until then it's ICE for me.
I had a Ligtning, and the dealer warned me that towing could cut the range down. No joke!!! Made it 59 miles and was pulling into a charger. I'll keep my 2500 Ram 6.7L for towing anything more than a cross town trip
@@TheElderOne2003 What were you towing? Edmunds did a towing test with 7,000lbs and got 170 miles, not great, but usable.
It's about how much drag there is. I forget who, but a channel did 10k weight that was low and it didn't drop it all that much..
I came to this video wondering if this truck would be the perfect daily and literally that’s dudes conclusion haha 👏🏽 good vid
6 mos & 5k miles in & I love mine!