Cam Shootout Series | Part 2 (Screamin' Eagle 462, Andrews 464, Reaper 465, S&S 465C)
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- Moonshine Harley-Davidson | Cam Shootout Series Part 1
Call Aaron today about your ride: (615) 274-4170 We'd love to help you out!
Cam's being tested:
Screamin' Eagle 462
Andrews 464
Feuling Reaper 465
S&S 465C
Follow the guys in this video:
Mike VO: @m.v.o_motorfast
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Aaron Staudinger: @staudinger72 / staudinger72
Jamie Lima: @thiscrazyride
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Video shot and edited by
Randy Shaffer @randyalan99
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DISCLAIMERS:
Testing was performed at Moonshine Harley-Davidson on a DynoJet 250I running DWRT WINPEP8. Tuned with PowerVision. Every effort was made to eliminate environmental variances for maximum consistency.
Jamie and Aaron talk about our motor financing options. Just to clarify, we offer a 60 day same as cash and we have 12 month, 24 month, and 36 month terms available. Please contact Jamie or Aaron (615) 274-4170 to either apply or get more information.
All tests were conducted on a Stock 2019 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Special.
Each Cam was tested on two exhaust systems:
- D&D Exhaust Billet Cat 2-into-1 M8
- Fullsac M8MX Headpipe with Khrome Werks M8 4.5'' Classic Mufflers & Competition Baffles
The Dyno results will be revealed at the end of each run in this video. We will discuss and compare all results at the conclusion of all testing.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT WAS PART OF THIS TEST:
S&S: www.sscycle.com
ANDREWS: www.andrewsproducts.com/
FEULING: www.feulingparts.com
D&D: www.danddexhaust.com
FULLSAC: www.fullsac.com
KHROME WERKS: www.khromewerks.com
HARLEY-DAVIDSON: www.harley-davidson.com
Check out our latest bikes and all the great bikes we have in stock at www.moonshineharley.com or give our sales team a CALL TODAY at (615) 450-1642 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I really wish more dealerships did stuff like this, building just because it's fun. You guys are doing something that no one else is & it's GREATLY appreciated. Please keep going!
Thank You.
You guys are leagues ahead of other boring HD dealerships, keep it up!
Thanks for watching and sharing!
If your in our near Nashville stop by the shop and see us.
Moonshine Harley-Davidson
7128 S. Springs Dr.
Franklin, TN 37067
Awesome video and thank you for doing all of this work!
Great test guys awesome tuning and yeah that d n d is quite the pipe.. love seeing a dealership like yours doing these tests, thanks guys and see you in June
Best video ever!!! I love you guys!!! You should be the model dealership for all HD dealerships!!! Keep up the good work!
Great information. You guys did a fantastic job, this helps get a better idea of how to wake up the M8 . Keep up the great work.
People that live in your area are the luckiest riders in the Country. You guys are amazing! Thank you for breaking it down for us!
Thanks for the hard work. This info is gold!
I knew nothing about cams before watching part I. Then, couldn't wait to watch part II. Thanks alot for the videos. (Did miss hearing the exhaust for each on part II).
Great info guys, thanks so much for doing this video. Cheers
Awesome video. Got mine scheduled to go in for surgery soon lol can’t wait to see what you guys can do. Thanks again for all the great info and thanks Aaron for all the help with selecting the parts.
Can't wait Joe! Thank you!
You guys rock I always have people asking me about cams for there M8 bike. You guys help with showing them the importance of parts that play well together. Always look forward to your videos keep up the good work .
Thank you Dan.
Great videos! My experience is that I called Aaron on a Friday and the lady told me he was swamped as they were in the middle of an event, so she took my number and said he'd call me the next day. Sure thing , HE DID. That's totally awesome as my experience is most dealers don't do what they say they will. We had a great conversation about bikes, builds, exhaust systems, etc and costs. He confirmed some things I already knew and shared a lot of info that's not on the videos. I don't know if i'll get there so they can do my upgrades but I sure as hell appreciated picking his brain! They are head and shoulders above the rest in my book of shops and dealers!
Good job guys. Always entertaining. Thanks.
Thank you.
Educating your potential customers. That leads to informed consumers who can make the choices to fit there specific need. The components of the M8 motor have to work together to build volumetric efficiency. The camshaft is the "heart of beast". Proper selection is critical. Awesome video. Thanks !
Proud of y'all for doing this!
Thank you! It's a bit of work but we feel it is good information to be put out.
great bunch of guys... what a dealership should be....
Brian Langhorst grateful for riders like you!
Once again, you guys bring it ALL
Lay it on the table, thanks guys👍👍👌
great video, I just put in a S&S 465c with open air filter and exhaust in my 2018 sport glide, wow what a difference .it pulls like a freight train. next will be high compression pistons.
Kick ass video! You guys are making it tempting to travel from Wisconsin to get a cam install....
Kalman Kovacs we would love to help any way we can!
Very informative video, and thanks for including the Screaming Eagle 462 h.p.cam. I chose this cam due to warranty issues. When my warranty expires-hello S&S!!
You'd be better off trying T man......
Thanks guys for making this video from Australia
Bro this is the best video for cam conparation
Noyce, just bought my first M8 and it needs some lift. This is exactly what I was looking for. After detonating three twin cams in my FXDWG, I’m trying my luck with the FLHC. Stage one and two going in soon but I’m not feeling the three and four after what I’ve seen here. You got a subscriber here. I’ll share this with the crew. 👍
will lawler we warranty almost all our builds that our under 140hp so let us now if you need us. We can arrange shipping too if needed. Call Aaron or
Jamie at Moonshine Harley if you need anything.
U guys do awesome work. Keep it up.
Thanks guys, I was going to change cams again but the gains are not worth it compared to the cam I already had installed. Another great video.
This a great reference. Went with HD 462cam and SE tuner and stock headpipes, V&H muffs due to warranty stuff. And got very similar results with the D& D.
I went same route as you same cam, but vance n hines power duals, n free dealer installed rineharts they put on before i ever came to look at it, putting down 117 torque, n 103 horsepower dame flat dyno across like they show here, but the real story is how great it runs n sounds n pulls like a crazy ape, very fun bike to ride, and everyone on the forums said to go with the torque cam, this proves how horsepower cam is great too
An other great video! Digg'in the music as well. Obviously a killer shop, very fortunate to have a Master Mechanic like Mike.
And he’s responsible for the great music in this video too!
I went with the Screaming Eagle horsepower cam since I'm still under warranty, and running Vance n Hines Powerriding with this cam so much Duals, with Rinehart slip on's, my dyno chart looks identical to yours nice flat torque all accross n the horsepower kicks in then the torque drops off for a min , but Im 117 Torque n 103 horsepower, but that bike is very very loud idling n getting on n off the throttle, it feels like a hotrod engine ! pulls very hard with arms pulling while pushing you back in the seat, roll on passing power whereever you need n want it just twist that throttle n hold on, this is in a new 21 Roadgilde limited, i thought about going with SnS 475 cam after warranty is up but I'm enjoying this cam so much that I may stick with it
You guys are awesome glad I happened to find your videos..
gary engman Thanks boss!
Awesome video guys. Love what your doing. if i were closer to you I would definately go your way. Thanks
Great information in this video. I really value seeing one change at a time. It would have been great if the stock baseline was done with each exhaust and air cleaner as a stage 1. That way when we look at the curves we can truly see what’s happening from the cams only. It would seem like half the gains are probably coming from exhaust but we are not able to tell. Even with that said this is great information that really isn’t available like this elsewhere. You guys rock!
I think all new harleys should come as a stage 1 at least so they breathe right , but harley will never do that sadly, the m8 though is such a great motor when paired with a cam it really brings this motor alive !
You're team at this dealership is amazing. I hope to bring my bike to you guys just so I can see it featured in a video. Keep it up Gentlemen!
Well if we are doing work and you want your bike featured let us know and we might be able to set that up!
Dope... I'm loving my Reaper 465 cam!
Nicely done everyone. As someone who's gotten a motor built by Mike and the Moonshine Crew, I can say that I just grin and rip it up. They delivered on what we discussed. I have instant Torque and passing power for days. Very, Very Happy with my set up. Looking for a week to get out and put some more miles on it, but I've put almost 1,000 on it in a little over a week and I'm Smiling the Cheshire Cat with bugs in my teeth.
gritblackthirteen love hearing this!
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Thanks Grit! You're build was a pleasure and you're a terrific addition to the moonshine 120 HP CLUB. you've ridden with some of the boys from the shop recently and the reports from the street are that that you like to whip up on everybody with that "sleeeper". Thanks for letting us do our thing!
It's just what I was looking for. It doesn't scream look at me sitting still, or on the road, but if you crack the throttle "She Gone". It does exactly what it was built to do. Riding two up loaded bags and all. She Just Goes. I'm always up to ride, so if you know people who are interested in seeing it in real life let me know. @@aaronstaudinger6593
Awesome comparison. Would of liked to see a Red Shift cam included but still great comparison.
Watching something like this LITERALLY makes me want to move to Nashville!!!
Love you guys. Wish every dealership near me (southern Ontario Canada) was like you guys.
Sorry if I missed it, but I’d love to hear sound clips of each cam. Bonus would be each cam sound out of the d&d and the full sac system. Would help with future decisions. Thanks
Love the videos from these guys. Fun to watch and lots of info. Would appreciate some sporty upgrade videos alongside the M8 vids. Keep up the great work fellas.
Chaz Bryner stay tuned this winter we have four badass Sportster builds coming. Full Drag motor setup in MVO’s personal bike. A hot street set up and two Super Hooligan Flat track builds.
Great Video
Great information and a pleasure to watch.
Ulf Penner Thank you. Glade you liked it.
You guys are awesome!
Great video guys. The music is awesome on this too!
I wouldn’t mind see your version of stage 3 setups. I see your big builds (bad ass) this series of stage 2, but yeah I think I’m in the stage 3 market. Can’t wait to visit you guys for my bike and then when I jump to touring. I have a Fatboy 114
Love what u guys are doing !!!!
Great video. Do you have a sound clip of this 114 idle with the 465 cam?
Thanks for another cam shoot out. I think im still gonna go with the S&S 475c.
Great cam!!
This video makes me seriously want to upgrade to M8 from TC. Crazy strong motors with just a little work involved.
Lotta hard work 👍
I wish Harley dealerships in Australia were like you guys!! All they want to push is Screamin eagle.
KostaAtlas that’s usually the case in America as well. We feel your pain and decided to fix it for our customers. Stay tuned, we have some monster builds scheduled for the next couple videos.
Jamie Lima in your opinion the best power cam? The boys here reckon they are getting 114hp from the 114 m8 with the Screamin eagle power cam mixed with exhaust and air filter. I wanted to go s&s 465c.
Great vids, guys! Can you do some similar tests with the 103 and 107?
Jason Colson We will! Shops been slammed so we are limited on time but will roll some out soon.
Love you guys as videos but I need to ask on the cams and exhaust have you guys tried the Vance & Hines big radius how to they lose a lot of power they look
Coolest. Harley. Shop. Ever.
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Great videos! Entertaining and informative. I would like to see more information on how cams can work with the big baffle pipes. And if using the muffler inserts really help and how much sound you might lose. Everyone wants sound and power!
Not everyone. I want power, I don't want sound.
I think most people want both, sound and power. At least I do.
These two videos where really good. My 18'softail 107 with power cam, shorty fab and screaming eagle intake(Which chokes it down) made 109hp 115tq. Made over 100tq from the bottom. Thinking of upgrding to the 475 s&s and after watching the two videos thinking i gonna go with it.
If you do the 475 you’ll need to increase the compression. With that said pair it with some high Comp pistons. If hats not an option do the 465 cam
@@MoonshineHarley what would the high comp pistons do?
@@MarvFitBikesKickswith the 475 you’re introducing more air into the combustion chamber.
Boy, Feuling is bad ass! I am currently throwing a set of their 505/515 cams in my XL right now, I will have it buttoned up by Monday. I can't wait to see what I get out of it. I hear great things about their stuff. Their stuff for the m8 looks like some great stuff! Safe to say Feuling parts will make their way in future builds too.
Dying to know how you like that 505/515 and how it compares to stock. Considering it myself but they're are no good reviews out there....
@@ronhernandez9198 I had the same problem, I knew Feuling made awesome Twin Cam and M8 cam kits so I pulled the trigger on the 505/515 and I absolutely love them, I found no loss of power down low, and once the bike hits 3000RPM it really winds up. They are a great set of cams!. I'll make some videos viewable on my CZcams channell so you can hear them and see how the bike works. At the time of the videos the bike had an S&S teardrop intake, Vance and Hines stainless 2-1 upsweep exhaust, Vance and Hines FP3Z tuner and of course the Feuling 505/515. The bike is currently having the S&S 1250 with S&S 10.5:1 forged flat top pistons, Feuling Endurance valve springs, Feuling HP+ lifters, Hammer Performance solid push rods, Buell bronze oil pump gear and a load of other parts, so I will have to add some updated videos soon!
@@jonnymac8925 great feedback. Im betting you're gonna have the baddest 1200 out there. Thanks
@@ronhernandez9198 Thanks Ron! Since the videos I added I also added 13 inch progressive 490 sport series shocks, Progressive adjustable monotube cartridge fork kit, daytona steering damper, 10 inch mx tbars, saddlemen stepup seat, carbon fiber side panels and fenders, HD customizable tach (600 different colour for the needle, the rpm gauge and the analog speedo gauge so the colour combos are endless) that also shows miles to empty, fuel gauge, miles to empty, gear indicator and so on. I also have a master cylinder fuel gauge which is a replacement master cylinder cap for thr sportster master cylinder that has a small lcd screen on it to show fuel level so I have 2 fuel gauges, a oil temp/level lcd dipstick, Screamin Eagle fat plug wires and Screamin Eagle plugs, TMF chain conversion, mid controls, 1/4 turn throttle, Brembo 11.5 inch floating rotors with black aluminum carriers for the front and rear, rebuffini and speed merchant brackets to fit the larger rear rotor with Brembo radial calipers and the bracket for the Brembo radial caliper up front, Brembo pads, XR1200 master cylinder, braided brake lines, Barnett extra plate clutch pack, Barnett billet pressure plate, Barnett 25% diaphram spring, 1FNGR easy pull levers. I 110% needed them after doing the 25% spring because there was about 75lbs of pull on the clutch lever and those levers made it so easy, I couldn't reccomend them enough. I sadly got rid of the v&h stainless 2-1 after I got tboned by an old lady in November and now have a Bassani road rage 3 stainless 2-1 on it, but the v&h 2-1 was absolutely amazing (as I am sure you can see/hear in the videos I posted). I also put a new industrial gray tank on the bike to match the carbon fiber panels, and I replaced my cam chest with a gloss black HD rail collection chopped cam chest, gloss black HD rail collection primary case, gloss black HD derby cover, gloss black HD rail collection lower rocker boxes, gloss black HD pushrod tubes and gloss black HD tappet covers, flat black HD upper rocker boxes and swapped all the silver hardware on the motor/trans/frame and accessories to a kit that HD makes for grade 8 black replacement hardware. I am swapping a thundermax ecm in to replace the FP3 since the motor is far from stock now, and some other little odds and ends to pick at. I have only had the bike for like 18 months at this point haha
What is the story on your bike? I think I may have a problem, and yes! I am aiming to have the baddest Sporty around. I live on an island in Canada and most the HD's around here are stage 1 or stock for the most part. The bike was getting lots of positive feedback before I did all that work, it should shut up some Sportster haters too hahaha. One thing I will say is a lot of people said my bike sounded like v8 race motor because of how it sounded and revved with the 2-1 and cams, the videos really don't do justive to either!
@@jonnymac8925 i just installed the phat plug wires and screaming eagle spark plugs with a wire wrap eliminating the plastic shroud. Went with the mustang revere gravity seat. Put on the viking swing arm bag cus its a hard mount. Arlen ness grips , pegs, and fork brace. Progressive spring up front and am thinking of going with Legends revo - A in the rear. LED's all around. Have the letric switchbacks up front. Harley engine guard with their oil cooler which i always highly recommend. Gonna go with galfer brake set up and of course the Feuling 505. Figured either trade up or just go all out. Like this bike too much to trade.
Awesome video guys, so I have a 2020 FXLRS with a stage 1 set up. 2-1 TBR turnout, screaming eagle ventilator and FP3. Will the Fueling 465 be a great choice? I know the S&S 475 is a bit to much for a stock motor but what will the affect be if I went with the 475 vs the 465?
lets see... RS468 Reaper465 S&S 475 Woods 22x all in a 107. those seem to be the most talked about cams prior to the release of the RS472
+1 for the rs468 I'd like to see what they can do with that cam
Ready to ride down from Cincinnati and get the Reaper 465 put in my 2020 Low Rider S!
Have y’all played with the Jim’s a twin Max cell cams ? He has 124” stock heads/TB, and a D&D make 140 square. Pretty impressive torque lines. May be worth talking a customer into trying it haha.
Thanks for the review(s). Those all seem to run outta gas at higher RPM - seems like the intake/heads need some work.
FukTheNewCommentSystem The cams runs out. All of these cams are designed to run with the stock compression ratio to produce a quick torque curve. If a larger cam with more duration is used the bottom will suffer but you’ll gain HP. The best way to achieve both is to match the cam to compression and motor displacement.
Reaper cam had the best over all result!
That is a fantastic cam.
Amazing work !!! Great job putting all the videos together and educating everyone in the Harley world, Have a question about the cam shoot out videos, what if any baffles are in the Krome Werks 4.5's ?
I think they said performance baffles
@@ihateemael Thanks Richard , must have missed that, All my other research I've done on the Krome Werks have come up with better numbers on the louvered baffles, I am currently running the slash cut 4.5's with no baffle, but I still have the cat because of warranty, have stage 1 with auto tuner , really do like the current sound and did notice a significant difference in performance
The Andrews 464 is a nice cam its the easiest on the vale train and puts out good talk an Hp....This is the one im putting in my 22 RKS with power vision tuner & a dyno and fueling free flow head pipe....will never have to worry about anything with this cam. with a more radicle cam 465--475 s&s cams fueling I be little bit worryed without upgrading valve springs clutch springs to prevent it slipping a few years down the road. they say you don't need to it very well maybe. but I would. ride safe all. cams hit that clutch hard when they kick in...its all about how you put power down to the road also. take care of your bike it will take care of you.
do the bikes have the smart tune pro o2 wide band on pipes i have a 2017 street glide want a 465 feuling cam what can i use for the o2 wide band for better tuning
I have got to road trip to your dealership and get some merch this summer edit: that page with all the graphs on top of each other is super useful
billiondollardan He’ll yeah. We look forward to meeting you.
Wonder what cam would be recommend if you're looking for a cam that will give you an edge to whoop on your buddy's in a race 🤔 that reaper 465 looks pretty good but I'll eventually be going to a 124 kit
Helpful video but too many choices I can't decide. I have a 21 Heritage 114 stage 1 with tab zombie slip ons. My style seems to fall into 2200-3800 rpm range. I'm thinking s&S 465 but the Andrew's 464 looks good too. Suggestions? And for my model year do I need to do full cam chest or oem oil pump ok? Thanks
Wahoo so interesting and helpful! Thanks from France 🇫🇷!!!!
An idea of new subject : Harley doesn’t tell us exactly what performance parts are build on the stock 117ci CVO models. Please give us a lesson and how to increase with a budget the perf. Which CAM, does it needs a camplate?
DM me on Instagram. @m.v.o_motorfast
Learning a lot from these videos.
Quick check. Any plans to include TTS100 or the rest of the TTS series in your cam shootouts.
So a 2-1-2 can run in an m8 just as well as a 2-1
I'm looking at the KW 2-2 would that be a good exhaust?
Hi Guys, thank you for all of what you do, this is so much more awsome and interesting in comparison to what we hear in HD garages... I have a question for you, I am waiting for a upgrade of my 110 breakout for a 117 ci kit from s and s, with 594 cams from feuling, the reapers... Feuling oil pomp HP +, etc.... What do you think about these cams ? And which throttle body would you recommand from HPi for such a upgrade? 58 or bigger? Thank you very much for your help .. From France 🇫🇷
Want to upgrade my cam, but most videos I watch say to change the cam support plate and oil pump also. Is this extra 700 bucks really necessary ? I am leaning towards the Zippers 468 or S&S 465.
What is the best cam you guys recommend for my 98 evo? It has the s&s super e and straight pipe fishtails and I ride hard with my club brothers everyday and I need something that will make it easier to keep up with them
great work guys, imho best dealership there is for harley! may i ask what AFR are you tuning to? tia
Based on this series (great btw) - had my local dealer install and tune a 465C / S&S AC / S&S 2 into 1 sidewinder...powervision tuner......While the numbers are similar (103/123) - and I know every dyno is different, your dyno charts mostly seem to show the CAMS hitting torque max or close to it right away- you are there at 2100-2200 and and then plateau on the 465C....mine ramps up a hill to 3000+ - it can't be just the pipe??
Great video, here's an idea for you... I have the CVO RG 117, which from what I understand is a stage 2. What can I do for a cam that will give me better low to mid range gains. I'm not really wanting to change the jugs or pistons or else I'd go for the stage 4. Much thanks in advance.
There are some great bolt in options for the 117. Call Aaron at the shop and we get you hooked up.
What’s your thoughts on the chain drive setup on the M8? I have heard there is excessive runout? I’m trying to figure out which way I’m going to go. Either reaper 465 or S&S 465G. Thanks for all the great info
The M8 has shown to have minimum runout so far. With that being said every motor varies but you'll most likely spec out for the 465 Gear Drive. I would check the runout before you order your parts, if you are wanting to run the gear set up from S&S Performance. The S&S 465 and Reaper 465 are both great cams.
I have a 20 FXLRS. Haven’t done any engine mods yet. First off, based on a previous video by u guys, I think mine is oil cooled. Having said that, I’m not an aggressive rider really. City streets of Miami. Want loud. Daily rider. About 660 miles per month. Should I get the 465 or 475 cam by S&S? I heard about Jag oil coolers. What do u think about that too? I think I wanna upgrade my clutch too. What do u suggest?im watching ur videos and learning as I watch. I will have my dealer install for me. Also lookin at a less expensive exhaust. Either VnH mini grenades or their stainless 2-1. Feedback on that?
Hey Guys - outstanding video; have watched it several times. With it being October 2021 now: pertaining to stock 114's, for bolt-in cams...How's the Wood WM8-22X and WM8-22XE cams compare to the 4 cams in this video from April 2019? And, the Cycylerama CR-480 cam? And the MHP-485? All these Cams are nice, and of course choice of exhaust system, baffles, and Tuning play in here. Thanks!!! Tom M.
I actually choose the S&S 465c Cam (full cam chest kit) for my '21 RGS, RDRS, Stage-2 114 (S&S 2-1 Sidewinder w/catalyst; Fuel Moto/K&N # 3956 ventilator style but wider AC; Dynojet PV3b Tuner w/map from Fuel Moto. Additional: Trask M8 checkvent and HD Fan added to oil cooler). Nice Cam, good lope at idle, and runs excellent ; strong torque 2000-5000 rpm (torque hits early, around 1750-ish rpm), and averages 46.4mpg on the highway at 70-75 mph cruise. Leaning towards the Wood 22XE but curious about the MHP 485 cam. Undecided right now. Also, I have new in the box Carillo 10.75:1 forged pistons (4.125" bore) and a spare 114 Top End (2450 miles); thinking about building a 120 cu.in. (4.125" bore x stock 4.500" stroke) engine and possibly some mild head work.
It's crazy this video is 4 years old. I still like Mike's band in the background.
Ive been looking all over the net and cant find much info, dyno sheets, videos of the Andrews 450 cam in 107. Love to find out more. Thinking about putting one in my water cooled 2017 Limited.
So it sounds like S&S gives you more of the Harley sound people look for, but which cam between the 465 and the 475 gives the best seat of your pants experience.
If u guys do another cam test can u use one of the redshift cams.
great video and thank you for doing these.
what in your opinion would a Reaper 465 or a Red Shift 468 do in a 2017 M8 Ultra Limited 107 with a stage 3, TTS tuner and the D&D M8 Fatcat exhaust?? How close would this be compared to the 114 in this video?
Jason Ingle it would our preform
these due to the compression increase. Check out our other cam video on the stage three 117 HC cam shoot out.
@@jamielima5315 Thank you for responding. but the 117 HC video goes over a 114 with stage 3 or 4 built to a 117, correct? I have a 107 with a stage 3 built to a 114 with SE498 cam, TTS tuner, DD Fatcat 2into1, So wouldn't mine be closer to the stock 114 with cam, tuner, and DD exhaust as in this video?? I'm sure I might get a tad more because of my compression. By the way, These tests are awesome. Thank you all again
Having my dealer install a stage 2 with fullsac header, tab performance mufflers, heavy breather intake, tts master tune and dyno, adjustable pushrod and SE lifters. I'm torn between the woods 222 cam and the 22x. I ride solo, mostly 60 mph backroads and highway. What cam would you guys go with
The 22x is better if not adding compression. Is it a 107 or 114 or CVO?
Gentlemen, I have 02 road king. I have been running a 95 bore with 585G drive cams. valve springs, true duels w/power max tuner. This pulled great, faster then any stock 103. but recently had to tare down due to runout. Now I am installing a 4 3/8 stroke S & S crank. still gong to use a new set of 585's w/fueling cam chest. with 10.1 cast pistons. My question is what should I do with the cylinder heads? Use the screaming eagle MVA heads or some S & S heads.....and do I need to change my manifold and throttle body?
Thanks for any info
Awesome! What bore size are you going to run? Depending on your the setup it will tell us which port design to CNC your current heads too and have them matched to the correct size HPI intake/Throttle Body. Please call Jamie Lima at the shop 615-274-4170.
What’s a great cam for Harley 103 riding 2 up and riding hwy and mountains ?
I wished my dealership would take notes from you moonshine Harley. Steel City Harley Davidson Washington pa.
Great information gentleman , any way you could put together the same test using the 117ci CVO bikes
The graphs are the same but elevated slightly do to the increased cubic inch.
@WheelSpin1320 we have run the pro pipe in different configurations but mainly on twin cams in the past. . That has proved to be a good running pipe for those builds. The majority of our m8 testing has been on touring bikes although we have tested several cams and exhaust systems on the M8 softtail platform including basanni, fab28, feuling, rbracing, trask, thrashin supply and two brothers. Call me at the shop if you'd like to discuss our take on these systems and their pairing to cams for the M8 for your build. AARON.
Currently have a 2020 Rg and recently got a fuelmoto 124 kit for it. I already have a fueling 465 I had planned on running with the 107. I’m wondering what your thoughts might be. Would it be worth stepping up to s&s 475 or comparable cam or run what I’ve got. Oh going to be running stock heads. Thx
Yes. Step up. So you have a 55mm intake manifold for it? If not call us and we can get one out to you. 615-274-4170 Aaron, Jamie or Nick
I would like to see you do diff. 2into1 pipe comparisons . D&D , Bassani , thunder header X , Vance pro pipe
Damn it now I want a cam!!!
EZ Hades stock sucks!!! Get that cam and you’ll love it. We can get you the right parts and ship or we could always get it in the shop if you’re not too far away. We are 15 min from Nashville.
@@jamielima5315 that's pretty cool how quickly you got back to that guy . I've been watching you guys for about a year and you guys are truly helping bikers get the best results from any projects that they have. Top shelf jamie
wich cam is the aggressiv and loudest for the m8 114 ?
Love the videos, would you guys be able to do a review and dyno video on the S&S HP103 and MR103 cams? I cant find any real concrete info on the hp103. I've found maybe 1 or 2 threads on the mr103.
We most likely won't do a whole video on them but I have run and really like them both. What bike do you have and what do you plan on doing engine wise?
@@NoName-vz1ob 08 FXDB. 96ci, Air cleaner, d&d fat cat, powervision. Will pull a couple bike lengths on a few stock 103s that I ride with. In the far future I may go 103 or 106 but that's about it not planning on heads or head work unless I get a steal of a deal. Ride solo 90% of the time. I have some videos if you care to go through them. I dont baby the bike whatsoever. A lot of highway runs and the occasional dig.(in Mexico of course.) My reason for asking about the specific cams is because s&s had a dyno sheet comparing the stock 103 cam against the HP and MR I feel as though my bike already puts out more than a stock 103. I'm not expecting to see 100hp/100ftlb out of the 96 but if I can get close to that with the hp103 then I'd be happy. Considering the measly 68hp that the 96 puts out factory. I understand the dyno sheet I see how and where the cams make their power. On top of that, i plan on either regearing the bike 32/70 or 30/70 so low rpm will not be much of an issue. My biggest concern is that of their numbers throughout the graph. As far as inflation of numbers and it doesnt indicate whether the 103 had a stage 1 with the cams or if everything was left factory other than the cams. Which is what makes me a little sceptical.
@@supersoni126 I have run the HP103 on a 103 bagger with a fatcat and it did pretty good. We then did compression heads throttle body etc and it really woke it up. The MR103 is usually a cam I go to for baggers with a stock 110.
With you leaving your displacement and heads etc. On a 96" these may be a little much. It will feel lazy until wide open throttle. Sounds like you have a strong runner already so something like a 551 would really put some pep in it without going into the top end.
Can you do the same shoot out for the stock 117 engine
I know there are a lot of factors but would I be right in guessing that the lower performing cams have more conservative timings and use less fuel when cruising? I'm worried about getting a cam and killing my fuel range on long distance rides.
Jarrod Wilson this sounds odd but the larger motors will usually get equivalent or better mileage at higher speeds. It depends on your tune and the MPH you are running. Either way it’s not a worry for HWY riding...stock M8 or a 128 M8 and you’ll be refueling after 4 hours on the Highway. Every hour cruising 75-90 equals a quarter tank. Try it out.
I can go straight to changing my cam with stock pipes and intake? I have a 2020 Road King with a 107. Any recommendations?
Dan O you could but you would spend some good money and than the stock intake and exhaust would be holding you back. The first step would be to get a good intake and exhaust setup than add the cam later if you can’t do it all at once.
You all should try the Jim’s V-twin maxcell cam 835B
how does rinehart exhast compare i think they sound awsome