Excellent vegan outreach,I always like the reminder at the end, basically saying, you buy,they die ! Great conversation with open minded people ,well done !
@@veganpowerlab Not sure what you mean by NTT but a species is a group of animals that can produce fertile offspring when mating. Google definition: "a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding. The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens."
@@veganpowerlab I am a Speciesist. I only care about humans. all plant species and animal species are food and/or pets for humans. I would love to see your NTT work if you don't mind asking it
Nice work. Have u considered if a outreach did well asking for their email to check back in a few months if they went vegan or not? Would be cool to know answer and any feedback. I assume most u talk to are tourists so no cuance of running into u again which might make them more comfortable aboit giving email
That’s a great idea! In the new cards I provide my socials so that they can see themselves and such. I think that could be a conversation starter for later. Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll ask them to contact me on instagram if they have questions (since they have my socials there). 🤗💚
Part of being a free wild animal is that I get hungry for proteins and fats as well as minerals and solvents. Those are sourced only via animal, plant, or otherwise sacrificing. Again, I'm an animal too. Sick of this humans gotta be better than animals mentality, as someone who is told by doctors as well as my own instincts that I havent consumed enough meat and thats why I have a familial history of join issues. Fat is rather hard to come by per serving without consuming animal fat. Go to a store and look at the labels. Youre gonna get backlash in public bc its public. You cant assume everyone can survive on the same diet, and it is irregular to assert that a certain people should willingly starve to be replaced by...pardon me, people who dont recognize that plants being killed is as immoral as animals. Morality isnt partial, you are.
Edit: I was diagnosed pre-anorexic trying to survive on a vegetarian diet and literally couldn't because my gut didn't have all the stuff it needed to properly siphon and process the nutrients that the veggies I ate had. I was 120 lbs for 6 years from sophomore year of high school until the age of 22. I'm 6 feet tall. My Dad is 240 lbs at his peak, over 6 ft tall slightly. At some point, the doctors were right, and yall feelings people were just wolves in sheep's clothing. I respect YOUR CHOICE, but don't sit here and tlwaste your life trying to recruit me like some militia.
@@veganpowerlab yes, that's why I came to the comment section to give my experience and thoughts. Because this was a lecture and not a discussion. You're right, I'm wrong, and anything I say is going to be used against me in a court of law. Congrats, you're the food police
Do you really think wild animals are "mostly starving" in their natural habitat? Maybe consider dropping this part of the description. It works to your benefit if they choose wild animal, correct?
It works to my benefit if they choose without having a doubt. If I drop that, some people will question the options. It’s a “would you rather” game after all. I’m not steering anyone into anything, but rather trying to assess their values before discussing veganism with them.
Food is a need. life is a survival situation always, every moment you are alive. the oldest humans to live are meat eaters and the humans with the longest live expectancy are meat eaters, while vegans have a horrible lifespan and are unhealthy. Therefore eating meat is a Necessity and required for survival. Survival: the act or fact of living or continuing longer than another person or thing. based on the vegan logic, meat is a necessity and I don't need to justify living longer, especially since practically all animals eat other animals.
Using people who live longer is such a silly argument. It shows a lack of knowledge for how the human body works. It’s the same logic as “you eat brains if you want to be smart”. But, even if you believe that to be true, if you compare percentage of vegan people amongst two groups: people who lived above 100 vs population, then you’ll see that the percentage of vegan people above 100 is higher than the percentage of vegan people in general people. So, even with your own logic, your deduction is false. But, you seem to have also a serious lack of knowledge in what being vegan is. Since, you believe it to be some form of a health thing. So, let me ask you this: would you kill and eat people if you found out you could live longer like that?
@veganpowerlab the ppl who live the longest and have the best longevity is the best argument, but you dont like it because meat eaters live the longest and have the best life expectancy far greater than vegans will ever have. That is a proven fact, and you even know it. Saying "you eat brains if you want to be smart" is not a good analogy at all. Eating brains does not increase your intelligence at all compared to increasing your intelligence via education. There is no scientific literature and 0 evidence that eating brains makes you smarter. Eating meat however, has nutrients not found in plants that vegans dont get, and is the reason why meat eaters live to the oldest in age and have the best life expectancy as a fact, with mountains of concrete evidence. the oldest ppl to live were meat eaters, that is upwards to 126 in age that was verified. There is no verified vegan who lived passed 100, and the ones vegans claimed to be over 100 consumed dairy, eggs, and/or fish on a vegetarian/pescaterian diet. Your statement is just completely false, which is the theme for vegan ppl i notice. I never said veganism was about health. The vegan diet is the most unhealthy diet on earth next to a standard American junk food diet. Veganism is a recognized religion similar to Hinduism that contradicts its own philosophy since vegans kill trillions of animals to obtain their fruits, veggies, grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, sea plants, fungi, weeds, ect.... The thing is, veganism is about food because all vegans do is talk about not eating nutritious meat and eating supplements from a lab. I would never eat a human, even if i was starving. The answer is no. It is a fact that animal products make humans live longer, while the vegan diet is deficient and leads to a shorter lifespan. My life and the lives of other humans are more valuable than the lives of animals, especially since the mass majority of animals eat other animals. Vegans won't be convincing educated ppl to live a shorter life on a vegan diet when the vegan diet is detrimental to health and requires medical intervention due to multiple deficiencies.
Vegetarians live longer than meat eaters. People who eat fish, but no other mest live longest.There is not enough data on modern vegans, but studies suggest they live at least as long as meat eaters. There is 0 data saying vegans live shorter.
@AnyaEightySeven vegetarians do not live longer than meat eaters. Lol. Take a good look at india. They have a horrible life expectancy, and i believe in the upper 40th of countries globally. You dont know what you are talking about. The country with the highest life expectancy eats the most meat, and the oldest ppl to live are mainly meat eaters, then followed by a few vegetarians. We have data showing how horrible the vegan diet is and how their life expectancy is around 78. Vegans are also extremely deficient and HAVE to take synthetic drugs from a lab just to prevent themselves from being put into hospital. That is just in a decade. It is already a proven fact that vegans live a shorter life based on data collected from vegans passing away from non accidental deaths, scientific evidence of the detriments to vegans in their older age, and just pure evidence of how vegans do not live to the oldest in age. Veganism is a temporary weight-loss diet and horrible for the body long term. Vegans WILL NEVER have a higher life expectancy or even come remotely close to living as long as meat eaters. Vegans ONLY live as long as meat eaters who eat a Standard Western diet with tons of junk food and processed food, which is hilarious and the perfect reason to non evnlen eat a vegan diet. Please stop making things up because ppl like you will just cause more ppl to get sick and live a shorter life eating the unhealthy vegan diet, which is evil.
The "we don't need it" argument. Yeah, I could eat only plants and supplement whatever a plant diet is bad at providing. But do I only do things I need to stay alive or do I also do things I enjoy just for the enjoyment? I am not a robot or a microbe. I am not limited to actions that are vital for my survival. Most things I do, I do them cause I enjoy them. WANTING to do something is my motivation, not NEEDING to do something. And there is always a struggle between need and want. Do I WANT to work? Not really, but if I WANT to enjoy the money I get paid for doing work, I will NEED to work. So NEED may force me to do something I don't WANT to do, if it grants me something I WANT in the future, through those means. But at the end of that logic, the WANT is still the motivator, the engine. Is there any scenario where I WANT to do something cause I NEED it?
@@veganpowerlab Define victim. Early warning: you won't win this argument.I may be a psychopath but I have logical reasoning skills above 9000. To be honest, if I were you, I would ignore it and hope nobody sees it.
@@MustardSkaven then, logically, you should easily understand that intrinsic value is what matters. Because, extrinsically, if a person is in power, they could assign value to any other individual based on race, gender, religion or even sexual orientation. In that way, acting based on extrinsic value could be a form of discrimination, especially in cases where you would be allowed to take one’s life because you placed less value on their life. So, then, obviously intrinsic value matters more than anything. So, then, you are aware that I value my life just as much as you value yours. And you value your life just as much as any other person on earth. To you it’s your whole existence, after all. Now, why would animals value their own life any less? It’s their whole existence also.. You see, we are different to the animals we farm, but, more importantly, we are similar in all the ways that matter: sentience - we feel, we perceive to world around us, we are aware, we have preferences and free will. That gives us the intrinsic value!
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme Some animals need meat to live. We are not those animals. Do you really want to compare the lives of animals in the wild to that of people's in a so called civilized society? I've been in rescue for many years. I've listened to rescuers slam people for their treatment of dogs, cats, horses and donkeys, while they were happily chewing their chicken and steak, because obviously neither the lives of cows, chickens, pigs and other farmed animals matter. How does that add Up?!
Well done. It takes guts to confront.
Thank you so much 🤗🙏
"You also changed a little bit my mind." This is a clear win for the animals! 👏
I agree. I feel like she will think more about it. Thanks, Lobo, for watching 🤗💚🙏
Loved your earth day post as well
Thank you so much 🙏🤗💚
Piggys never cease to amaze me! 🐷🐖🐽
Indeed. They are impressive 🤗💚
YES!! Thanks for being out there, friend. 🙏✌️
Thanks for watching and commenting 🤗💚
Great conversation! They realized that they don't need animal products, they want them. We need more open minded people like these two girls.
Completely agree. It’s rare and so refreshing when you find it
Excellent vegan outreach,I always like the reminder at the end, basically saying, you buy,they die !
Great conversation with open minded people ,well done !
They were open minded, indeed! 🤗💚
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Lost my Internet at the end , but great outreach as always .
Martin, thanks for being there at the premiere 🤗💚🙏
As usual...nice work Cip! 💚
Thank you so much, Donna 🤗💚
7:13 I completely agree😊😊😊👍👍👍🐄🐖🐥🐠🐐🐇♥️♥️♥️
Great work Cip♥️♥️♥️🌱🌱🌱🐥🐥🐥💚💚💚😊😊😊
Thank you so much, Nataly 🤗💚
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very nice, Cip💚💚💚💚💚🌱
Ally, always appreciate you 🤗💚
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Thank you so much for watching 🤗🙏💚 i appreciate you
Such clear cut amazing approach!!
How would you start a conversation with someone who openly describes themselves as a speciesist?
I’d find a way to get to NTT. What makes a species?
@@veganpowerlab Not sure what you mean by NTT but a species is a group of animals that can produce fertile offspring when mating.
Google definition:
"a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding. The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens."
@@MustardSkaven so, in other words, just a category.. means nothing in the context of moral value
@@veganpowerlab You asked what a species was, I gave you an answer. So all of a sudden you want to talk about moral value? Okay.
@@veganpowerlab I am a Speciesist. I only care about humans. all plant species and animal species are food and/or pets for humans. I would love to see your NTT work if you don't mind asking it
Live vegan, love vegan 💚💚💚
🤗💚 no other way to live or truly love
Wow, just wow. 🤘🤘🤘🤘💖💖💖💖
Thank you so much 🤗🙏💚
Nice work.
Have u considered if a outreach did well asking for their email to check back in a few months if they went vegan or not? Would be cool to know answer and any feedback. I assume most u talk to are tourists so no cuance of running into u again which might make them more comfortable aboit giving email
That’s a great idea! In the new cards I provide my socials so that they can see themselves and such.
I think that could be a conversation starter for later.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll ask them to contact me on instagram if they have questions (since they have my socials there). 🤗💚
I’ll react to this on my live stream tonight.
Woohoo.. always looking forward to your feedback 🤗💚
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Good video 👍✌🌱😊
Thank you so much 🙏🤗💚
Thanks for speaking up for animals.
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this young person is lovely 🐄🐖🐔
She seems to get it, yes
@@veganpowerlab lol I meant you brother ✌️
Our consequences have actions.
Also, was that a dog bark as a beeping out the swear word? 😅
Yes.. haha.. just to make it a bit spicy
Ban Slaughter
Part of being a free wild animal is that I get hungry for proteins and fats as well as minerals and solvents. Those are sourced only via animal, plant, or otherwise sacrificing. Again, I'm an animal too. Sick of this humans gotta be better than animals mentality, as someone who is told by doctors as well as my own instincts that I havent consumed enough meat and thats why I have a familial history of join issues. Fat is rather hard to come by per serving without consuming animal fat. Go to a store and look at the labels.
Youre gonna get backlash in public bc its public. You cant assume everyone can survive on the same diet, and it is irregular to assert that a certain people should willingly starve to be replaced by...pardon me, people who dont recognize that plants being killed is as immoral as animals. Morality isnt partial, you are.
Edit: I was diagnosed pre-anorexic trying to survive on a vegetarian diet and literally couldn't because my gut didn't have all the stuff it needed to properly siphon and process the nutrients that the veggies I ate had. I was 120 lbs for 6 years from sophomore year of high school until the age of 22. I'm 6 feet tall. My Dad is 240 lbs at his peak, over 6 ft tall slightly. At some point, the doctors were right, and yall feelings people were just wolves in sheep's clothing.
I respect YOUR CHOICE, but don't sit here and tlwaste your life trying to recruit me like some militia.
You haven’t watched the video, clearly
Who turned on the random excuse generator?
@@veganpowerlab yes, that's why I came to the comment section to give my experience and thoughts. Because this was a lecture and not a discussion. You're right, I'm wrong, and anything I say is going to be used against me in a court of law. Congrats, you're the food police
@djcat64 this veganpowerlab guy, this time. It's a public forum. I can speak where I want.
Do you really think wild animals are "mostly starving" in their natural habitat? Maybe consider dropping this part of the description. It works to your benefit if they choose wild animal, correct?
It works to my benefit if they choose without having a doubt. If I drop that, some people will question the options. It’s a “would you rather” game after all. I’m not steering anyone into anything, but rather trying to assess their values before discussing veganism with them.
I would answer it as wild animal with the comment "I'll take my chances" about being able to find food.
Food is a need. life is a survival situation always, every moment you are alive. the oldest humans to live are meat eaters and the humans with the longest live expectancy are meat eaters, while vegans have a horrible lifespan and are unhealthy. Therefore eating meat is a Necessity and required for survival.
Survival: the act or fact of living or continuing longer than another person or thing.
based on the vegan logic, meat is a necessity and I don't need to justify living longer, especially since practically all animals eat other animals.
Using people who live longer is such a silly argument. It shows a lack of knowledge for how the human body works. It’s the same logic as “you eat brains if you want to be smart”.
But, even if you believe that to be true, if you compare percentage of vegan people amongst two groups: people who lived above 100 vs population, then you’ll see that the percentage of vegan people above 100 is higher than the percentage of vegan people in general people. So, even with your own logic, your deduction is false.
But, you seem to have also a serious lack of knowledge in what being vegan is. Since, you believe it to be some form of a health thing. So, let me ask you this: would you kill and eat people if you found out you could live longer like that?
Must truly be an effort to be that stupid old son! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@veganpowerlab the ppl who live the longest and have the best longevity is the best argument, but you dont like it because meat eaters live the longest and have the best life expectancy far greater than vegans will ever have. That is a proven fact, and you even know it. Saying "you eat brains if you want to be smart" is not a good analogy at all. Eating brains does not increase your intelligence at all compared to increasing your intelligence via education. There is no scientific literature and 0 evidence that eating brains makes you smarter. Eating meat however, has nutrients not found in plants that vegans dont get, and is the reason why meat eaters live to the oldest in age and have the best life expectancy as a fact, with mountains of concrete evidence.
the oldest ppl to live were meat eaters, that is upwards to 126 in age that was verified. There is no verified vegan who lived passed 100, and the ones vegans claimed to be over 100 consumed dairy, eggs, and/or fish on a vegetarian/pescaterian diet. Your statement is just completely false, which is the theme for vegan ppl i notice.
I never said veganism was about health. The vegan diet is the most unhealthy diet on earth next to a standard American junk food diet. Veganism is a recognized religion similar to Hinduism that contradicts its own philosophy since vegans kill trillions of animals to obtain their fruits, veggies, grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, sea plants, fungi, weeds, ect.... The thing is, veganism is about food because all vegans do is talk about not eating nutritious meat and eating supplements from a lab.
I would never eat a human, even if i was starving. The answer is no. It is a fact that animal products make humans live longer, while the vegan diet is deficient and leads to a shorter lifespan.
My life and the lives of other humans are more valuable than the lives of animals, especially since the mass majority of animals eat other animals. Vegans won't be convincing educated ppl to live a shorter life on a vegan diet when the vegan diet is detrimental to health and requires medical intervention due to multiple deficiencies.
Vegetarians live longer than meat eaters. People who eat fish, but no other mest live longest.There is not enough data on modern vegans, but studies suggest they live at least as long as meat eaters. There is 0 data saying vegans live shorter.
@AnyaEightySeven vegetarians do not live longer than meat eaters. Lol. Take a good look at india. They have a horrible life expectancy, and i believe in the upper 40th of countries globally. You dont know what you are talking about. The country with the highest life expectancy eats the most meat, and the oldest ppl to live are mainly meat eaters, then followed by a few vegetarians. We have data showing how horrible the vegan diet is and how their life expectancy is around 78. Vegans are also extremely deficient and HAVE to take synthetic drugs from a lab just to prevent themselves from being put into hospital. That is just in a decade.
It is already a proven fact that vegans live a shorter life based on data collected from vegans passing away from non accidental deaths, scientific evidence of the detriments to vegans in their older age, and just pure evidence of how vegans do not live to the oldest in age.
Veganism is a temporary weight-loss diet and horrible for the body long term. Vegans WILL NEVER have a higher life expectancy or even come remotely close to living as long as meat eaters. Vegans ONLY live as long as meat eaters who eat a Standard Western diet with tons of junk food and processed food, which is hilarious and the perfect reason to non evnlen eat a vegan diet. Please stop making things up because ppl like you will just cause more ppl to get sick and live a shorter life eating the unhealthy vegan diet, which is evil.
The "we don't need it" argument.
Yeah, I could eat only plants and supplement whatever a plant diet is bad at providing. But do I only do things I need to stay alive or do I also do things I enjoy just for the enjoyment?
I am not a robot or a microbe. I am not limited to actions that are vital for my survival. Most things I do, I do them cause I enjoy them. WANTING to do something is my motivation, not NEEDING to do something. And there is always a struggle between need and want. Do I WANT to work? Not really, but if I WANT to enjoy the money I get paid for doing work, I will NEED to work.
So NEED may force me to do something I don't WANT to do, if it grants me something I WANT in the future, through those means. But at the end of that logic, the WANT is still the motivator, the engine.
Is there any scenario where I WANT to do something cause I NEED it?
You can do whatever you want, up until what you want causes victims. Shouldn’t it be frowned upon to do something that generates victims?
@@veganpowerlab Define victim.
Early warning: you won't win this argument.I may be a psychopath but I have logical reasoning skills above 9000.
To be honest, if I were you, I would ignore it and hope nobody sees it.
@@MustardSkaven then, logically, you should easily understand that intrinsic value is what matters. Because, extrinsically, if a person is in power, they could assign value to any other individual based on race, gender, religion or even sexual orientation. In that way, acting based on extrinsic value could be a form of discrimination, especially in cases where you would be allowed to take one’s life because you placed less value on their life.
So, then, obviously intrinsic value matters more than anything. So, then, you are aware that I value my life just as much as you value yours. And you value your life just as much as any other person on earth. To you it’s your whole existence, after all.
Now, why would animals value their own life any less? It’s their whole existence also..
You see, we are different to the animals we farm, but, more importantly, we are similar in all the ways that matter: sentience - we feel, we perceive to world around us, we are aware, we have preferences and free will. That gives us the intrinsic value!
@@veganpowerlab Give me an argument to spare a slug cause it is sentient. That's all I ask for.
@@MustardSkaven i gave you: intrinsic value over extrinsic value. it’s as simple as that
As a Christian, I live happily in God's promised land; flowing with milk & honey.😜
Soy milk and vegan honey
@@godzilla400 Describe & prove what is a carbon atom.
Wouldn't it be nice, if you were flowing in compassion and kindness to the animals
@@piaogilvie8463 I am. I care for rescue😺😸, who don't appear to want a V world.
Prob. too much for V babies, tho'.
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme Some animals need meat to live. We are not those animals.
Do you really want to compare the lives of animals in the wild to that of people's in a so called civilized society?
I've been in rescue for many years. I've listened to rescuers slam people for their treatment of dogs, cats, horses and donkeys, while they were happily chewing their chicken and steak, because obviously neither the lives of cows, chickens, pigs and other farmed animals matter.
How does that add Up?!
No need to care farm animals. I see them as food.
Do you think jeffrey dahlmer saw you as food also?
@@veganpowerlab We dont know each other
@@ozan4702 This is you -> | |
@@veganpowerlab You are making nonsense.