The frustration is real. Don't be discouraged Cip. I was out doing activism myself yesterday. And you were the main person to inspire me to finally get active. You are making a difference. We are making a difference. If you're watching this and not active please consider it. Change is possible. As slow as it may seem.
I am active. Thanks for the kind words. I won’t stop because of a bunch of frustrating individuals.. hehe Glad to hear you’re also doing activism 🤗💚 woohooo
Wow, he couldn't face his responsibility in contributing to animal suffering, & his selfish desires made him reject facts. Well done Cip, this is the new tougher version, when people say stupid things. It's good, I like it 😊
Nothing complicated about it,one is either an animal abuser or one is not. He was really triggered ! Well done Cip ! I hope the vegetarian will choose to stop exploiting animals and become vegan.
It's not black and white, it's more like you stop at some point, when it gets too ridiculous. Most vegans for example buy normal vegetables, but these are almost all fertilized with animal poop. I see why people would react to that with "come on!" but there is an actual price on that animal poop, and vegetable farmers buy that stuff, which undoubtedly increases the profitability of the meat industry. But you don't buy the alternatives, because they are too difficult to get, you don't get the variety and you'd have to cook literally everything yourself, and it would simply be completely ridiculous to waste so much time and energy. So you just say fuck it and you pay for the animal poop.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 So you wish for people to break up just because one eats meat? Damn you people are so sad. Pretending to have the moral highground because don't eat meat but all I see here is hatefull garbage. Maybe eat a burger?
"We need meat", says the guy standing next to his vegetarian wife 🤷 And then she needs to gently pat him on the back for dealing with his cognitive dissonance anger issues. Wut!
What a Fool this guy is. This always happens when people's adrenaline levels rise & they think they can be clever. Well, he embarrassed himself on Camera. I'm glad I caught that. Right now, I have a family member trying to be really clever about all this stuff. He doesn't even need to be in the same space as me. Why do they all do it?
I missed the beggining unfortunately. Cip may I ask if I can use your approach as a Template; I promise not to steal your words per se. My problem out in Taiwan is that I'm struggling a little with the nuances of language over what can turn into a very complex conversation. Please let me know your thoughts
hi ;) there is nO need to not "steal The words" of other 🌱 Vegans, if you're really worried you may give credit! for example, Earthling Ed is who made me go Vegan, and I mention his name liberally. I try and mention The others, bodybuilders, but some times there isn't time. intention counts! God Bless you in Taiwan! from The United States of America
How low can you go. This guy even uses his girlfriend's/wife's health issues (that according to her have got nothing to do with her being vegetarian) to defend his consumption of animal products. 😢
I'm glad that she at least said that. She was honest and that's cool of her. And, at the end, he dragged her, whereas she wanted to stay a bit more. Let's hope she makes the right choice and at least looks into all this more
@@veganpowerlab Here is an idea: at the end of the puppy story, ask them what if after shooting the dogs, they were eaten? Would making use of the dog and "benefitting" the human by providing "food" then make it okay?
Another job well done Cip. I always think when they are triggered like that they will look into veganism because they want to be prepared for the next time they run into one. Then the truth really hits 'em. Way to go holding them accountable. I really think you got to his gf too. Interesting how quickly he throws her under the bus just to fit his claim.
Yah, interesting how the vegetarian woman looks like 'her nose has been put out of joint'. I find this selfish. If I have read her body language correctly then her reasons included some kind of narcissistic reasons for being vegetarian such as 'I hold the moral high ground' rather than thoughts about the actual victims. I see this in some Vegans too. It is hardly surprising why you get so many "me too" Vegans make lousy excuses such as they have an iron deficiency, or protein deficiency, etc also citeing nonsense symptoms such as hair loss for joining the welcoming :" I'm no longer Vegan " club. Narcissm has no place in Veganism or even transitional Vegetarianism.
Well put. She did correct him when he said she had health problems because of being vegetarian, so maybe she wasn’t all that bad. I think she just never decided to look more into it, but she did seem like she wanted to learn more
@morejoy5188 She also grabbed onto his hand to hold it as if to let him know Honey, I still think you're totally cool, you're not embarrassing me with your ridiculous opinions, and I still love you.... you're a real catch.
It's never easy man! I want to scream when I talk to my colleagues about this stuff. At least in your situation people are willingly volunteering their time, even if it comes to an abrupt end 😆
Thank you for doing what you do, Cip. Who am I to give you advice on what you could've done different, since you do so much more for the animals than I do, but please allow me to give my opinion. I think your mistake when talking to that man was that you led with the (obviously) correct fact that we don't need animal products to survive and thrive, because the mistake was that you pissed his ego off. I think in hindsight, it would've been better to not challenge that point at all to begin with, and just say "Let's say hypothetically, it is true that we don't need animal products to survive and thrive. If that hypothetical is true, do you still think what we are doing to animals is okay?" The difference is that his ego would not have been punched in front of his wife, and his guard might not have been held up so quickly, as I believe that is the moment that he was no longer willing to listen to your words and argue in good faith. Again, who am I to judge you, you probably fine-tuned your approach over the many many talks you've had with strangers, so maybe you know better. You don't know me, but I love you. Thank you for what you do.
Eating meat/animal products makes it a lot easier to achieve nutritional goals like protein so it's not exactly wrong. And for some people it is a need when you think about things like price. Now sure "must eat animals" is an massive exaggeration but for some people that exaggeration is actually true. Some people can do body building or power lifting with a vegan diet but for the rest of us it's extremely hard. And that difficulty makes people disregard the moral reasons.
@cream6237 thats not true but even if it was so convenience justifies enslaving exploiting and killing individuals? Oxford study any many others shows 30% CHEAPER when having plant based when nutrients are matched.
@@cream6237 what if you were to find out that it’s cheaper. If you go to chalenge22 and subscribe they help you get the best nutrition for your buck for free for a plant based diet. Why not do that? Do you really wanna keep exploiting animals?
@@veganpowerlab But it's not really cheaper, meat gives the HIGHEST amount of protein. So when you look at a pound of chicken and compare it to vegan alternatives they just can't compete, the chicken wins hands down on protein per $, and taste damn good aswell. Now I will give you something, vegan/plant based protein powders are actually fairly cheap, I haven't personally had any of them but I hate protein powders in general so it doesn't matter too much to me. "Do you really wanna keep exploiting animals" How am I directly exploiting animals? I might be indirectly doing it, but so are you. Do you not know how many animals get killed while cultivating YOUR FOOD? I'm sure you've seen my other comments dude but I'll give you a quick run down on why I personally don't go vegan. As I've said multiple times in replies to other people's comments I believe there are 4 upsides and 1 downside to a non vegan diet. Now non vegan diet just means anything is on the table. First upside, price as I've explained earlier in this same comment. Second upside taste/fun/destressing, those 3 things all kind of correlate, the taste is good so I feel good and am less stressed very simply put. Third upside which is a minor one I don't have to be super picky, I'm already fairly picky since I need to look at stuff like carbs/fats/protein and calories, but then you gotta look at ingredients way way more. Fourth way more nutritional and higher in protein. Getting to my required amount of protein which is like 180g per day is already fairly annoying even with chicken/eggs/milk so it'd just be painful if I had a vegan diet instead. Some people can definitely pull it off, but not me. The single downside is morality which can be a huge deal or basically nothing depending on the person. I am not the type of person that questions myself when I eat chicken, I just enjoy the chicken cause it taste damn good. Clearly morality isn't a big deal for me when it comes to that type of thing cause I NEED MY GAINNNNNS.
Been looking up the vitamins you lose out on as a Vegan. L-carnitine is one of them. It looks like you can produce it endogenously from methionine, but you need to eat 400grams of rice per day if you weigh 100kg, thats quite a lot.
It is so ironic that I just sat down with my chicken and rice and saw this shit. The craziest part is the title "Can't Manipulate Couple" is such an absurdly morally bad thing to say. Like this is how it sounds "Oh no I can't force a couple to adhere to what I believe". Then I see the comments saying horrible things "Maybe just maybe he is a psychopath" or maybe he just likes the taste and affordability of meat and animal products.
When you asked the last question to the girl, maybe it was a little too much for her. I would have asked her this: "If you're against animal killing (vegeterian), then how do you still pay for something that still kills animals?" I know you said something similar, but vegeterian people need psychologically a reminder for why they stopped meat eating. It's weird, I know.
You did really well, Cip👏 After thought: You tell the guy about the science behind a diet without meat. You're really well trained. You kept calm and polite. I think the guy walked away when he started to feel inferior to you. Vegan power😁
@@SKM_KB Please tell me you're not comparing humans -- with the ability to know right from wrong and possessing moral agency -- to wild animals who live by instinct and are incapable of committing evil. And BTW, what wild animals do is their own business, not yours.
@@veganpowerlab Ain't sentient anymore. And this chicken and rice right here is great. Why should I change my lifestyle for a complete and utter downgrade that is also more expensive? Not only is it a downgrade in those regards it's also a downgrade for my fun. There's a reason why a lot of people drink sodas and eat candy, they definitely don't do it because it's healthy, they do it because it taste damn good. That is the same reason I eat meat and animal products, they taste damn good, it's way cheaper, and it makes it easier for me to reach my protein goal for the day and all that type of stuff. The only downside for not going a vegan or vegetarian diet is morality, which if you just ignore it makes eating meat and animal products have 0 downsides.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 We are animals just more intelligent. And whose to say other animals can't behave morally. I mean it's unlikely for a wolf to attack another wolf in it's pack. And also there are other intelligent animals excluding humans that do behave morally such as monkeys and many others.
As a vegan myself, I understand the passion behind the lifestyle, but it's important to approach discussions about diet and ethics with empathy and respect. Aggressive or manipulative tactics often do more harm than good when trying to share our perspectives. And this is what I felt from you. As vegans, most of us have to supplement and pay more for the veggies to maintain the full diet. Not everyone can afford that. It's crucial to acknowledge that the science around nutrition and sustainability is complex. In some regions, crops cannot grow efficiently, but animals can graze and provide sustenance. Additionally, livestock can consume parts of crops that humans can't digest, potentially reducing waste in our food systems. It's a valid point veganism being a relatively recent dietary choice in human history. Our species has indeed evolved consuming both plant and animal products for hundreds of thousands of years. While many people thrive on a vegan diet, it's true that we're still learning about the long-term effects of plant-based diets on human health across diverse populations. You want to do it? Do it on your own risk. Because there is one associated with it. It's important to approach veganism, like any significant lifestyle change, with an open mind and a willingness to continually learn and adapt based on new information and personal health needs. While veganism can offer many benefits, it's not necessarily the right choice for everyone, and that's okay. The goal should be to promote health, sustainability, and ethical treatment of animals in ways that are feasible and beneficial for individuals and communities.
veganism is the doctrine that humans should live without exploiting animals. do you hold this position? if one is not against animal exploitation, how can they be vegan?
no one was agressive. why is it not right to use strategic questions which lead into the subject of veganism? sometimes people need to be uncomfortable before they can change. veganism is not a lifestyle choice. it is an ethical position.
For some, veganism may not be the optimal choice, and that's perfectly acceptable. The emphasis should be on promoting health, sustainability, and ethical treatment of animals in ways that are feasible and beneficial for different individuals and communities. It's equally important to address how we advocate for dietary choices. Convincing others through manipulation, aggression, or disrespect undermines the ethical principles many vegans hold dear. Ultimately, adopting veganism is a personal decision that should be made based on comprehensive knowledge and self-awareness. The author should have some respect for the people he speaks with ❤
@@wounky93 he is respectful, and he is advocating for the victims. enabling animal exploitation is not ok. animals are not resources. they are not our slaves.
while the intent to raise awareness about animal rights is valuable, the manner in which the message is delivered significantly affects its reception. Aggressive behaviors like using a condescending tone, displaying hostile body language, asking loaded questions, disregarding responses, and mocking the interviewee can be counterproductive. These behaviors create a hostile environment that can provoke defensiveness, resistance, and resentment in the interviewee. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, such tactics often alienate the audience. Effective advocacy should focus on respectful dialogue, providing information, and encouraging thoughtful consideration. Blaming or shaming individuals for their choices typically results in backlash rather than positive change. Promoting awareness through empathy, respect, and constructive conversation is more likely to inspire genuine consideration and behavioral change. It's important to recognize that eating meat is a personal choice influenced by various cultural, social, and individual factors. Advocacy should aim to inform and persuade through respectful engagement, not coercion.
The frustration is real. Don't be discouraged Cip. I was out doing activism myself yesterday. And you were the main person to inspire me to finally get active. You are making a difference. We are making a difference. If you're watching this and not active please consider it. Change is possible. As slow as it may seem.
I am active. Thanks for the kind words. I won’t stop because of a bunch of frustrating individuals.. hehe
Glad to hear you’re also doing activism 🤗💚 woohooo
Wow, he couldn't face his responsibility in contributing to animal suffering, & his selfish desires made him reject facts.
Well done Cip, this is the new tougher version, when people say stupid things. It's good, I like it 😊
He was a real pain and a dedicated animal abuser. Had to run off of course as you knew the facts. and he wanted to pretend , didn't work. Exposed.
Well done, Cip! You kept your composure despite the aggressively ignorant animal abuser’s insistent denial 👍🙏
I got annoyed by the science denial and refusal to move past it, but thanks 🤗🙏
The last argument was surprising as food scarcity is definitely all the more reason to have a plant-based food system for humans!
I agree. It is surprising, indeed. I think he’ll look into it afterwards, though
Kinda sad about how confident the guy in white is about topics he clearly doesnt know much about.
There isn't one study support his claim
Dunning Kruger is strong with this one
Hahahaha the guy cant handle being wrong, he just flee the conversation at the end 🤣
Nothing complicated about it,one is either an animal abuser or one is not.
He was really triggered !
Well done Cip !
I hope the vegetarian will choose to stop exploiting animals and become vegan.
I would like to see her progress into veganism... and to another boyfriend.
It's not black and white, it's more like you stop at some point, when it gets too ridiculous. Most vegans for example buy normal vegetables, but these are almost all fertilized with animal poop. I see why people would react to that with "come on!" but there is an actual price on that animal poop, and vegetable farmers buy that stuff, which undoubtedly increases the profitability of the meat industry. But you don't buy the alternatives, because they are too difficult to get, you don't get the variety and you'd have to cook literally everything yourself, and it would simply be completely ridiculous to waste so much time and energy. So you just say fuck it and you pay for the animal poop.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 So you wish for people to break up just because one eats meat? Damn you people are so sad. Pretending to have the moral highground because don't eat meat but all I see here is hatefull garbage. Maybe eat a burger?
@@peterhornik8569 one is either an animal abuser or one is not.
@@peterhornik8569 are you using animal poop as an excuse to abuse and murder them ?
Wow. Never seen an adult man fall apart so fast. So triggered.
"We need meat", says the guy standing next to his vegetarian wife 🤷
And then she needs to gently pat him on the back for dealing with his cognitive dissonance anger issues. Wut!
And then she grabbed his hand to hold it after telling him it's ok they had different opinions. Kinda sickening...
Maybe just maybe he is a psychopath
@@herohera3497 Or maybe just maybe, you're a complete idiot.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 Sickening are these moronic comments from people that pretend to have the moral highground
@@herohera3497 How?
Since the old saying is "Second is the best," well...
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What? You’re first in my heart, mr corn king 🤗🌽🌽💚
What a Fool this guy is. This always happens when people's adrenaline levels rise & they think they can be clever. Well, he embarrassed himself on Camera. I'm glad I caught that.
Right now, I have a family member trying to be really clever about all this stuff. He doesn't even need to be in the same space as me.
Why do they all do it?
Excellent outreach. Thank you fellow vegan💗💗💗
I missed the beggining unfortunately.
Cip may I ask if I can use your approach as a Template; I promise not to steal your words per se.
My problem out in Taiwan is that I'm struggling a little with the nuances of language over what can turn into a very complex conversation.
Please let me know your thoughts
hi ;) there is nO need to not
"steal The words" of other 🌱
Vegans, if you're really worried
you may give credit! for example,
Earthling Ed is who made me go
Vegan, and I mention his name
liberally. I try and mention The
others, bodybuilders, but some
times there isn't time. intention
counts! God Bless you in Taiwan!
from The United States of America
Thanks Cip
@religion Thanks for that & your encouragement. Happiness to USA-free
How low can you go. This guy even uses his girlfriend's/wife's health issues (that according to her have got nothing to do with her being vegetarian) to defend his consumption of animal products. 😢
I'm glad that she at least said that. She was honest and that's cool of her. And, at the end, he dragged her, whereas she wanted to stay a bit more.
Let's hope she makes the right choice and at least looks into all this more
that is a very interesting beginning. 💚🙌💚
Yeah. I agree. The story about the puppy is very reminiscent of what happens in animal agriculture
@@veganpowerlab Here is an idea: at the end of the puppy story, ask them what if after shooting the dogs, they were eaten? Would making use of the dog and "benefitting" the human by providing "food" then make it okay?
I’m not hurting victim. I’m better than that. I’m Superior ✅♥️💪😎👍
Buddhist monks, most of them are vegan ✅♥️⭕️💪😬🥋😉
Another job well done Cip. I always think when they are triggered like that they will look into veganism because they want to be prepared for the next time they run into one. Then the truth really hits 'em.
Way to go holding them accountable. I really think you got to his gf too. Interesting how quickly he throws her under the bus just to fit his claim.
Thanks, Anna! That’s what I was curious also. I’m curious if this “triggered” one will mean something different for them
@@veganpowerlab Oh I am sure they had a convo when they got home. Sounded like he didn't really take his woman very seriously.
A voice for the voiceless, thank you 💚💚💚💚
Good work cip. Shame about the annoying guy and his triggered outlook .
I also got a bit annoyed 😅 but, thanks, Martin 🤗💚
Thank you!! You are a great activist ❤
good stuff
"false premise" - standing next to wife who hasn't eaten meat in 10 years and CHAD vegan with big muscles. Ok. LMAO
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they should go separate ways
Yah, interesting how the vegetarian woman looks like 'her nose has been put out of joint'. I find this selfish. If I have read her body language correctly then her reasons included some kind of narcissistic reasons for being vegetarian such as 'I hold the moral high ground' rather than thoughts about the actual victims.
I see this in some Vegans too.
It is hardly surprising why you get so many "me too" Vegans make lousy excuses such as they have an iron deficiency, or protein deficiency, etc also citeing nonsense symptoms such as hair loss for joining the welcoming :" I'm no longer Vegan " club.
Narcissm has no place in Veganism or even transitional Vegetarianism.
Well put. She did correct him when he said she had health problems because of being vegetarian, so maybe she wasn’t all that bad. I think she just never decided to look more into it, but she did seem like she wanted to learn more
@morejoy5188 She also grabbed onto his hand to hold it as if to let him know Honey, I still think you're totally cool, you're not embarrassing me with your ridiculous opinions, and I still love you.... you're a real catch.
Haha yeh, I didn't notice that@@harveyplantharvester1502
@@veganpowerlab Yah, maybe I was a bit unfair there. It was more on him really...
Some amazingly cringge cope from the guy in the white 🤦♂️
It's never easy man! I want to scream when I talk to my colleagues about this stuff. At least in your situation people are willingly volunteering their time, even if it comes to an abrupt end 😆
Great job! 👏 👏
The arrogance of that guy
Thank you for doing what you do, Cip. Who am I to give you advice on what you could've done different, since you do so much more for the animals than I do, but please allow me to give my opinion. I think your mistake when talking to that man was that you led with the (obviously) correct fact that we don't need animal products to survive and thrive, because the mistake was that you pissed his ego off. I think in hindsight, it would've been better to not challenge that point at all to begin with, and just say "Let's say hypothetically, it is true that we don't need animal products to survive and thrive. If that hypothetical is true, do you still think what we are doing to animals is okay?" The difference is that his ego would not have been punched in front of his wife, and his guard might not have been held up so quickly, as I believe that is the moment that he was no longer willing to listen to your words and argue in good faith. Again, who am I to judge you, you probably fine-tuned your approach over the many many talks you've had with strangers, so maybe you know better. You don't know me, but I love you. Thank you for what you do.
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Lol start bringing up basic thermodynamics--gets too triggered "gotta go bye".
great video keep it up!
That man was the worst - apathetic, arrogant and selfish. You did great, as ever, Cip!
7:01 where. Never seen any study thst says u must eat aninals to be healthy.
He stull cant explain whybuus partner is alive
Yeah. He was being disingenuous, but maybe he got triggered enough to look into it
Eating meat/animal products makes it a lot easier to achieve nutritional goals like protein so it's not exactly wrong. And for some people it is a need when you think about things like price. Now sure "must eat animals" is an massive exaggeration but for some people that exaggeration is actually true. Some people can do body building or power lifting with a vegan diet but for the rest of us it's extremely hard. And that difficulty makes people disregard the moral reasons.
@cream6237 thats not true but even if it was so convenience justifies enslaving exploiting and killing individuals? Oxford study any many others shows 30% CHEAPER when having plant based when nutrients are matched.
@@cream6237 what if you were to find out that it’s cheaper. If you go to chalenge22 and subscribe they help you get the best nutrition for your buck for free for a plant based diet. Why not do that? Do you really wanna keep exploiting animals?
@@veganpowerlab But it's not really cheaper, meat gives the HIGHEST amount of protein. So when you look at a pound of chicken and compare it to vegan alternatives they just can't compete, the chicken wins hands down on protein per $, and taste damn good aswell. Now I will give you something, vegan/plant based protein powders are actually fairly cheap, I haven't personally had any of them but I hate protein powders in general so it doesn't matter too much to me.
"Do you really wanna keep exploiting animals" How am I directly exploiting animals? I might be indirectly doing it, but so are you. Do you not know how many animals get killed while cultivating YOUR FOOD? I'm sure you've seen my other comments dude but I'll give you a quick run down on why I personally don't go vegan.
As I've said multiple times in replies to other people's comments I believe there are 4 upsides and 1 downside to a non vegan diet. Now non vegan diet just means anything is on the table. First upside, price as I've explained earlier in this same comment. Second upside taste/fun/destressing, those 3 things all kind of correlate, the taste is good so I feel good and am less stressed very simply put. Third upside which is a minor one I don't have to be super picky, I'm already fairly picky since I need to look at stuff like carbs/fats/protein and calories, but then you gotta look at ingredients way way more. Fourth way more nutritional and higher in protein. Getting to my required amount of protein which is like 180g per day is already fairly annoying even with chicken/eggs/milk so it'd just be painful if I had a vegan diet instead. Some people can definitely pull it off, but not me.
The single downside is morality which can be a huge deal or basically nothing depending on the person. I am not the type of person that questions myself when I eat chicken, I just enjoy the chicken cause it taste damn good. Clearly morality isn't a big deal for me when it comes to that type of thing cause I NEED MY GAINNNNNS.
I love your activism keep it up man
Vegan activist Hero ✊✊✊✊
🤗💚 thank you! We’re all heroes, because we all do activism in our own ways
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Been looking up the vitamins you lose out on as a Vegan. L-carnitine is one of them. It looks like you can produce it endogenously from methionine, but you need to eat 400grams of rice per day if you weigh 100kg, thats quite a lot.
Why choose rice, lol. Tofu, tempeh, seitan is much higher in methionine
It is so ironic that I just sat down with my chicken and rice and saw this shit. The craziest part is the title "Can't Manipulate Couple" is such an absurdly morally bad thing to say. Like this is how it sounds "Oh no I can't force a couple to adhere to what I believe". Then I see the comments saying horrible things "Maybe just maybe he is a psychopath" or maybe he just likes the taste and affordability of meat and animal products.
Watch the video, don’t just read the title
😂 hilarious, he is convinced his girlfriend is the walking dead? Crazy 🤪
Yeah.. funny that he did not make the connection
even in English as not his first language, he wiped the concrete with this soy boy.
How? 😅 by not accepting science?
I think your comment needs an explanation.
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When you asked the last question to the girl, maybe it was a little too much for her.
I would have asked her this:
"If you're against animal killing (vegeterian), then how do you still pay for something that still kills animals?"
I know you said something similar, but vegeterian people need psychologically a reminder for why they stopped meat eating.
It's weird, I know.
You did really well, Cip👏
After thought: You tell the guy about the science behind a diet without meat.
You're really well trained.
You kept calm and polite.
I think the guy walked away when he started to feel inferior to you.
Vegan power😁
Man, steak just tastes so good.
The body of a sentient individual? What about their life? Do they not deserve to live and be free?
@@SKM_KB Please tell me you're not comparing humans -- with the ability to know right from wrong and possessing moral agency -- to wild animals who live by instinct and are incapable of committing evil. And BTW, what wild animals do is their own business, not yours.
@@veganpowerlab Ain't sentient anymore. And this chicken and rice right here is great. Why should I change my lifestyle for a complete and utter downgrade that is also more expensive? Not only is it a downgrade in those regards it's also a downgrade for my fun. There's a reason why a lot of people drink sodas and eat candy, they definitely don't do it because it's healthy, they do it because it taste damn good.
That is the same reason I eat meat and animal products, they taste damn good, it's way cheaper, and it makes it easier for me to reach my protein goal for the day and all that type of stuff. The only downside for not going a vegan or vegetarian diet is morality, which if you just ignore it makes eating meat and animal products have 0 downsides.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 We are animals just more intelligent. And whose to say other animals can't behave morally. I mean it's unlikely for a wolf to attack another wolf in it's pack. And also there are other intelligent animals excluding humans that do behave morally such as monkeys and many others.
As a vegan myself, I understand the passion behind the lifestyle, but it's important to approach discussions about diet and ethics with empathy and respect. Aggressive or manipulative tactics often do more harm than good when trying to share our perspectives. And this is what I felt from you. As vegans, most of us have to supplement and pay more for the veggies to maintain the full diet. Not everyone can afford that.
It's crucial to acknowledge that the science around nutrition and sustainability is complex. In some regions, crops cannot grow efficiently, but animals can graze and provide sustenance. Additionally, livestock can consume parts of crops that humans can't digest, potentially reducing waste in our food systems.
It's a valid point veganism being a relatively recent dietary choice in human history. Our species has indeed evolved consuming both plant and animal products for hundreds of thousands of years. While many people thrive on a vegan diet, it's true that we're still learning about the long-term effects of plant-based diets on human health across diverse populations. You want to do it? Do it on your own risk. Because there is one associated with it.
It's important to approach veganism, like any significant lifestyle change, with an open mind and a willingness to continually learn and adapt based on new information and personal health needs. While veganism can offer many benefits, it's not necessarily the right choice for everyone, and that's okay. The goal should be to promote health, sustainability, and ethical treatment of animals in ways that are feasible and beneficial for individuals and communities.
veganism is the doctrine that humans should live without exploiting animals. do you hold this position? if one is not against animal exploitation, how can they be vegan?
no one was agressive. why is it not right to use strategic questions which lead into the subject of veganism? sometimes people need to be uncomfortable before they can change. veganism is not a lifestyle choice. it is an ethical position.
For some, veganism may not be the optimal choice, and that's perfectly acceptable. The emphasis should be on promoting health, sustainability, and ethical treatment of animals in ways that are feasible and beneficial for different individuals and communities.
It's equally important to address how we advocate for dietary choices. Convincing others through manipulation, aggression, or disrespect undermines the ethical principles many vegans hold dear.
Ultimately, adopting veganism is a personal decision that should be made based on comprehensive knowledge and self-awareness. The author should have some respect for the people he speaks with ❤
@@wounky93 he is respectful, and he is advocating for the victims. enabling animal exploitation is not ok. animals are not resources. they are not our slaves.
while the intent to raise awareness about animal rights is valuable, the manner in which the message is delivered significantly affects its reception.
Aggressive behaviors like using a condescending tone, displaying hostile body language, asking loaded questions, disregarding responses, and mocking the interviewee can be counterproductive. These behaviors create a hostile environment that can provoke defensiveness, resistance, and resentment in the interviewee.
Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, such tactics often alienate the audience. Effective advocacy should focus on respectful dialogue, providing information, and encouraging thoughtful consideration. Blaming or shaming individuals for their choices typically results in backlash rather than positive change.
Promoting awareness through empathy, respect, and constructive conversation is more likely to inspire genuine consideration and behavioral change. It's important to recognize that eating meat is a personal choice influenced by various cultural, social, and individual factors. Advocacy should aim to inform and persuade through respectful engagement, not coercion.
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He is awesome. I know him. 🤗💚 not personally, but his channel
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