Adam Savage's One Day Builds: Chinatown Stunt Knife (Corridor Crew FX Challenge!)
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2022
- In this very SPECIAL One Day Build, a collaboration with @CorridorCrew, Adam replicates one of his favorite practical effects: the bloody knife-attack scene from the 1974 film Chinatown. Adam times his entire process, from build through actual filming, while Corridor takes on the same scene, using visual effects instead. Which scene recreation do you think took longer and/or looks better? Be sure to watch Corridor's version of this build, and please let us know which scene we should take on for the next Practical vs. FX Challenge!
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Which scene we should take on for the next Practical vs. FX Challenge?
Which scene recreation -- practical or FX -- do you think took longer and/or looks better?
This is amazing, love that you and Corridor are working together on things like this, hope to see many more, this could be the Superbowl of practical vs digital effects, its amazing fun to watch and looks like you all had a blast!
I always wondered how they got that shot and your attempt is awesome and answers so many questions but, I have one question for you Adam. I kept wondering why you didn't attach the hose directly to the spring so the blood would shoot through it instead of installing it to the side? Did you think of it and decided it wouldn't give the affect you wanted or something else? It seems as if it would have been such a clean installation, and would atomize the spurt at the end through the spring when it bent adding another affect to the blood spurt? Also, can you super heat the hose and stretch it out like you can do with acrylic or glass to get a fine tip?
How about the Alien Chestburster scene for an effect, its a lot of work I imagine but pretty iconic and I think presents some unique challenges
The parting of the waves from the 10 commandments could be interesting to re-do in this day and age too.
The head bursting scene from scanners could be cool
I'd like to see something from Mary Poppins or the wizard of oz too but I can't think of which scene would lend its self well to this but I'm sure there are many.
Perhaps Mike from Props to History might have recently run across your knife as he did a few visits to some locations. Here's his youtube channel (czcams.com/users/PropsToHistoryfeatured) You never know. I'd recommend sending him a message.
Although I love corridor's VFX which they do amazingly well, you just cannot replicate the authenticity of practical effects. The reaction was in real time vs the VFX scene preparation, you have that slight delay in reaction. If you have to count in real film shots, you can imagine the amount of takes you have to do for such a scene to get it perfect for post/VFX editing.
SO happy we got to work together on this project! It was fun to replicate the actual effect! I'm looking forward to doing more of these collabs!!
Did you guys do the editing on the vid for Tested? The style's just different enough from the regular stuff they post, so I figures I'd ask.
@@Bad_Wolf_Media Nah, they have a new editor - Tested mentioned it in a comment a couple videos back
Yes please, more please!
Oh man I would love to the T2 arm scene done!
Love you guyssss
What an awesome time!! Adam it was a blast working on this project with you! It's so cool to watch this video with the context that this happened BEFORE we tried doing the actual shot!
I saw your thumbnail earlier. I'm glad I watched this first. Also, Adam is right. This could be the start of a beautiful friendship. Make more of these.
hi wren
The little spray of blood you caught and your glare really sold it, Wren! Plus the delayed reaction to Adam’s comment made it feel a bit more realistic.
Good job CC! Excellent work to you too, Adam!
YEAH, REALLY LOVE THE WORK YOU AND YOUR CO-WORKERS DID FOR BLACK RIFLE COFFEE. NOW WHEN I THINK OF CORRIDOR CREW I THINK OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE. AMAZING PEOPLE ALL AROUND. YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT WREN. ARE YOU PROUD? I'M PROUD FOR YOU.
Its been 1 Year now. we need another challenge.
Here’s an idea for another Digital vs Practical FX: spaceship explosion.
Adam builds a small ship from scratch with styrene and kitbashing, and then they set off a small slo-mo pyro charge explosion of the model as the actual “film shoot”.
The CC guys have to make a small ship from scratch and do the explosion digitally.
Yeah, this one… it has all the elements - model building first, then an effects shot - for both digital and practical. But they need to start with a storyboard…
Would love to see this one!!!
Well issue here is that there's few things that scale poorly explosions being one of those things, so if we'd want to give the practical effect a fair shake the model would have to be really big or the actual ship being tiny (as in too small to fit a person inside it tiny), otherwise the CGI will look better every single time due the explosions looking too small.
A good practical effect is like a magical trick you know it's fake but you can't say exactly how they did it easily (unless you got a background in practical effects as then you know the tricks), but that means working with the limits of the craft and that means knowing for example what size can you make something for it to look good on camera (it might not look on set but what the camera sees and what the human eye sees are different) and still be cheap enough to be practical.
@@SampoPaalanen As a general rule, to scale explosions and flame for miniature you shoot at a higher frame rate and slow it down after to convey the scale.
@@SampoPaalanen don’t worry this is something corridor has gone over many times with their react videos
Practical vs Digital: Iron Man 1, Pepper Pots sticking her hand in Tony's chest to repair his reactor!
is there a behind the scenes for that shot? Never knew exactly how they did that.
@@guitarhero8110 They had RDJ at an angle so that they could connect him to a prop torso with the slot for the reactor. Pepper was reaching into a prosthetic torso's hole while acting with RDJ kinda sat at an awkward angle to sell it all together
That’s a great call!
YYEEEAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
@@guitarhero8110 it was practical mostly , the body from the neck down was a prosthetic and RDJs head was exposed and then i think digitally connected to the body , it's basically like that magic trick where they saw someone in half and separate the two halves
Love seeing Wren and Niko in the cave!! Very exciting, very cool!! Love both of your channels!! Can’t wait to see more collaboration between you guys!!
Us too. We really had fun.
@@tested Can't wait for more!!
Your practice of labeling everything makes me think of someone learning English or working their way back from a TBI. 😂
This was a wonderful collaboration! Would watch more versions of digital vs. practical VFX videos with them, love the Corridor Digital team.
Now of course, Adam went through all this trouble matching up the tip from one knife with the blade of another and gradually grinding them to fit together because no matter what tool you use to cut off the tip of something, the missing kerf from where the tool went through the workpiece will prevent that cutoff from matching up seamlessly if you put it back on.
What I suppose, though, given the "keep it as simple as possible" philosophy of the 1970s propmasters, is that because hardened steel is so much of a hassle to cut through in the first place (as Adam once again demonstrated with his bandsaw troubles), the original maker simply clamped the tip in a vice and SNAPPED it off, no cutting and fitting necessary. The uneven curve of the break point looking less like a conspicuous perpendicular angle would then be a happy accident.
Delightful build either way! But that probably would have saved Adam about an hour on the challenge timer, haha.
Wow that’s such a good take, you could very well be right
The curve on the blade looks like it matches the planned movement of the actor, so that when flicking the knife, the cut edge maintains contact with the edge of the nostril as closely as possible to encourage the illusion.
That has got to be the tough part of replicating effects from movies.
Unless you've got the creator on hand you'll never know if certain aspects were by design or a happy accident.
Also consider that the original was a cheap knockoff of the knif that Adam was using... so it might have been a bit easier to cut....
@@NotTheStinkyCheese I was going to add that bit. Adam speculates the original prop used cheap knives which are generally made with cheaper and softer steel. Cutting those blades would have been easy.
oooOOOoo this is why I love the comment section of Adam's videos. Thanks!
I’ve wondered about this effect since seeing it as a teen in the ‘80s and did the *exact* same rewind->freeze frame analysis back then, too! This was fantastic!
Play - Pause - Play - Pause - Play - Dammit - Rewind - Play - Pause - Play - Plause - Dammit!
@@Saka_Mulia Ah yes, teenage me knew that struggle all too well trying to see tiddies and 'tang back in the 90s...
this such a great series concept, id love to see cgi space ships vs practical model ships
Thanks for the suggestion!
This is the one that i think would be so interesting, as well as potentially doing an old school firecracker mini explosion vs a vfx rendering, really put nuke and some of the other fire fx software they use to the test
I just saw the Corridor Crew video!! I absolutely love you guys keep doing these COLAB videos!!
To see both sides of VISUAL EFFECTS, as one who studied CGI animation, what a blast with these videos!!
As CG enjoyer I'm gonna say... practical looks so f-ing good. The flinch is so natural, the blood is not static, it "bleeds", gets in the mouth/teeth/hair, the "surprised" blinks on both "actors", the knife-tip small *clink and small little "ah" sells the "cut" so real. I myself flinched and blinked like 6 times in a row rewatching it xd
really nice job on this one
Digital is mostly a problem solver... And the two together saved the better shot so ... Love the combined version the most
I would love to see this again! It's a great way to see the strengths and weaknesses of both effect styles. A couple interesting head to heads I would love to see are, bullet squib vs VFX bullet impact, make up and prosthetics vs VFX appearance manipulation, and pyrotechnics vs VFX explosions.
Honestly, I love every single one of these ideas. Another one to add to the pile would be those sparking paintball bullets that they use for spark bullet hits vs VFX sparks in composition.
Though, I feel that with Fenner being on the team and them using Nuke in their composition pipeline, Corridor Crew may honestly knock any composition challenges out of the park.
Honestly, I love every single one of these ideas. Another one to add to the pile would be those sparking paintball bullets that they use for spark bullet hits vs VFX sparks in composition.
Though, I feel that with Fenner being on the team and them using Nuke in their composition pipeline, Corridor Crew may honestly knock any composition challenges out of the park.
The timer should be a standard. To watch Adam work in such speeds is mesmerizing- and educational.
"I have a knife, loaded with water..."
Never in a million years would I have imagined anyone saying this.
never have i ever seen a man drill a nostril in his younger minion looking self :P
Love the collab between Adam and Corridor Digital. Loved seeing you on their couch and them in your "cave"! :)
As a long LONG time Mythbusters fan and Tested fan when I found it years ago and also a long time Corridor Digital fan, been over a decade for both now I've realized. Lol these collabs have been so surprising and SO cool, seeing two of my favorite channels working together on fun stuff is something I never thought I'd see! I hope there will be many more in the future cause these are amazing!
It's really special to see since they both have such a passion for their respective craft _as well as_ deep abiding respect for the other craft. This is the textbook definition of friendly rivalry.
I can't wait for the next Digital vs. Practical. This is such a cool idea and you guys are the perfect team to do it.
Awesome challenge. You guys need to do more of these. I think it would be fun to choose a skill in your mastery, a skill in the Corridor Crews mastery, and then neutral ones that neither has done before. I think in the end that showcases both of you working in and out of your comfort zone and using your distinct library of experiences to get through the task.
Great suggestion.
This is the collab we dreamed of
Us too! Looking forward to the next.
The "final shot" was SO amazing! I really wasn't expecing it to be that good.
It really was a great shot, showed how much Mr savage knows his craft.
This channel gives me the feel of what it may be like to work in an environment like ILM. It's like a free training course and some hang out time with one of my favorite humans. Such great content.
Losing a part while working happens too many times to all of us builders. Love that he left that in!
i love how no mater how many times Adam finger combs his hair, it always springs back to it's original form :)
This is definitely a trending series in the making.
Super stoked to what you guys can come up with for future practical vs. vfx episodes!
Can't remember when I had more fun watching my two favorite CZcamsrs. I'm off to watch the Corridor Crew!
Thanks, Adam!!
Really impressed at 23:57; It takes a lot of skill to make tapering shapes fit that well
I enjoyed every minute of this ODB.
When the moment of truth arrived I legitimately recoiled in both shock and delight. Well done.
This could be a whole channel by itself. Practical vs VFX. Awesome
These types of collab are just so heartwarming and neat! Old school sharing knowledge with new school (and viceversa) is just what we need! Love to see more!
please do more with corridor. You are my hero, and they are my hero in the SE field.
OMG yes, please more Digital Vs. Practical!
This and the Corridor Crew's video were amazing. I can't wait to see more of that.
Loved the challenge of practical vs. digital.
Wren trying to look tough is always so adorable
It turned out so good. Also Wren's mobster face killed me.
Adam says "etcetera" right! He just gained another drop of respect in the absolute pool of respect I already have for the man.
Hey, Adam. I have an idea for another practical effects one day build. The scene from Predator where Bill Duke (Mac) is shaving, and he cuts himself while they're waiting for the Predator to walk into their trap. This practical effect is done so well, that it never even crosses your mind that he isn't really cutting himself.
I was a long fan of Adam since Mythbusters, and I discovered just recently the Corridor Crew guys, and I am absolutely hooked. What a pleasure to see this collab :)
Adam, your so darn entertaining and your story telling is hilarious 😂 to watch! Please keep teaching ‘ye viewers’ so many cool secrets from ‘ye Cave’. Keep the showstoppers rolling 😮 And don’t forget… GO COVENANT BLOOD ❤
Watching the effect from the film, it's so startling! It's stunning. I enjoyed watching Adam remake something so sick!
so fitting given the 40th anniversary of The THING! What a fantastic movie and unforgettable special effects
Don't get me wrong I love how accessible visual effects are today. There are numerous resources on CZcams. But I would love to see more veteran prop and practical effects guys share their knowledge to a community that may feel like it is either this or that. Inspiring a new generation of practical effect artists.
Loved this video Adam. You working with Corridor is a match made in FX heaven!
I worked on a film with Jon Alonso and got to talk to him about this particular Chinatown scene and how the knife worked. Thanks for doing this video and reminding me of how fortunate I was to get those moments with him. I was a nobody and he chatted with me for quite a long time. Very lucky and he was one of those old hollywood guys for sure.
It was a hinge Adam, that's what Jon Alonso the DP told me.
The SIX consecutive sniffs of the funky blood made me chortle like an idiot
This was a great collaboration! I'd love to see more practical vs CG effects videos! car accidents are a good one that have made a huge leap in the digital effects arena over the last couple of decades. I know, that's probably a bit more expensive than a couple of stiletto knock-offs, but it would be nice to see!
Adam, you're so entertaining, charismatic, and educational. Just watched the Corridor video and hopped over to your channel to check out your part of the collaboration. Super cool! Thanks so much for the effort and passion you put into the entertainment and education of others. Much love to you.
38:17 Another one of those priceless moments with Adam Savage, haha.
The gentle fade in of the timer when the knife tip flew off was such a brilliant touch. *chefs kiss*
The switchblade of course makes me think of the T2: Judgement Day scene where Arnold's T-800 does the big reveal to Dyson, slicing the skin off his arm and pulling it off the metal endoskeleton. Maybe a bit too similar, but it seems like a small enough scale for a CG vs practical video.
I feel like this Chinatown shot being dependent on a single prop makes it an exceptionally good candidate for a competition between practical and digital. Everyone can think of great visual effects shots, but it's going to take some special ones to really fit into something of this scope.
Loved the result! I didn't think it could look so real.
No brainer....something with Star Wars practical vs. vfx spaceship models!
I think part of it is the fact that having practical effects is that it also makes it more real for the actors
Loved this build! You should try some practical effects from the original EVIL DEAD movie vs new digital effects!
Man.... watching my Idol and a group of people I've been following for over a decade collaborate is such an amazing feeling!
I think this was a match made in heaven! keep it up and I can't wait to see what you guys are up to next!
Couldn’t have said this better! Right there with you man!!!
REALLY LOVE ALL THE WORK CORRIDOR CREW DID FOR BLACK RIFLE COFFEE. NOW WHEN I THINK OF CC I THINK OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE. AMAZING PEOPLE ALL AROUND. YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO WORK WITH THEM AND ALL THE THINGS THEY REPRESENT.
Always a blast to see Adam building stuff and explaining it along the way with trials and errors.
Love the collabs with Corridor Crew! Thanks for all this great content!
Thanks for watching!
Give those great kids a bump! I love to see you guys collaborating!
My worlds have collided. Adam, who inspired me to be a maker; and Corridor, some guys I quite literally owe my career change to.
That is the cutest Kant-twist clamp I've ever seen!
I think a simple in/out bullet squib would be a good challenge. (Django unchained killing candy's men) has the best in/out squibs with the light, volume, and color of blood. Its also not well document on CZcams (safety, what to do/not do, where to be trained in squibs or how to use air compression squibs) there are some videos but few by professionals. A good alternative challenge would be air whip tentacles (from make up to movement).
Awesome video! If there was another practical vs. digital collaboration I would love to see the hobbit effect (small person interacting with a big person) practically from the original LotR with forced perspective sets and how they did it digitally from the new Hobbit series.
Can I just say I love your channel Adam. I've been looking up to you ever since I saw Mythbusters for the first time and these long videos of you building stuff and explaining all the little details as you go are an absolute blessing. All the best to you.
I hope this is the start of many Corridor and Savage collaborations.
Came over after seeing the Corridor video. Love this concept! Looking forward to more practice vs. digital challenges!
Haha after taking several deep sniffs of the blood... "It doesn't smell awesome." - but you kept going back for more 😂
The Alien Chest burster would be a great video to watch Adams dive in a and solve. One of my all time favorite movies.
what adam makes is impressive but what really blows my socks is that he has EVERYTHING in that cave
I love this! I shared this suggestion on the Corridor Crew channel but thought I'd drop it here too: I'd love to see a practical vs digital contest based around some use of miniatures (a backdrop/stage, a vehicle, etc) to see how both approaches tackle that challenge and how it turns out. Thanks for the amazing collaboration!
Ohhh that could be interesting, but not sure how much time it would take out of Adam's days compared to Wren and the rest of the VFX artists
@@georgebeswick7549 Yeah I'm not sure how to make it fair. Maybe Adam could have a small team to help him?
Star wars space ship shot or independence day style building explosion would be awesome.
Both this and the related corridor crew video popped up on my page at the same time. I spent 5 minutes staring trying to decide which to watch first. I am spoiled today.
The answer is: yes
This HAS to be a new thing. I loved this. Please do more.
Practical vs Visual FX suggestions:
1. Being shot
2. Terminator damage to face
3.Vader cutting off Luke's
hand
4. Vader striking down Obi won in a new hope where he disappears
4.
Great Movie!!
This was a riveting video! Brilliant job Adam!
I really enjoy your interractions with The Corridor boys! 👏👏
I am surprised that those automatic knives, i.e. switchblades, are legal in the state of CA; CA is typically known for outlawing about everything.
They aren’t exactly. Illegal to carry, possess in public, sell or give away. Don’t know what that actually means in terms of owning one in your home, or if dulling it changes anything.
The fact they are illegal to sell, is probably more the reason why cheep knock offs are no longer flooding the market. There is no market to speak of.
That final take of the slice really sells. Even when you know how it works. Well done Adam.
Seeing the iconic chest bursting scene redone and compared with practical effects and VFX would be super cool. Sounds like a large project, so probably not doable, but I would watch that in a heartbeat!
What if you guys did something old school from a a Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin film?
Very cool! Ideas for future comparisons: Anything from Star Wars IV, V, or VI where they took a perfectly good practical effect and replaced it with a crappy CGI one in the "special" edition. Take your pick. (If Lucasfilm lets you get away with it.)
I’d love to see his take on episode 4 Jabba and make it more faithful to the puppet from episode 6
Ok this might be one of my new favorite episodes. It was a TON of fun to watch here and then watch Corridor Crew's video doing the digital version.
Love this collaboration. More, more!
LOVE THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE PRACTICAL FX. IT GIVES A SENSE OF HOMAGE AND REVERENCE TO WHATS GONE BEFORE. HAVE TO SAY THOUGH. I TRIED CHINATOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME. DIDNT LIKE IT AT ALL :(
I do CGI and small practical effects like this are almost always faster and better. CGI has its uses but it is overused by certain companies because they don't want to pay union workers like set and costume designers and prop masters. Digital art is not yet a union job sadly. I don't want to be making some actor's costume half digital because the costume department was given five hours and $20. I'd much rather be making things practical effects have a hard time with like transformation sequences or impossible stunts.
The collaboration between your channels is my favorite content on CZcams. Please do more!!
One of the best screenplays ever to come out of Hollywood.
Getting shot by an arrow. Practical vs VFX
Maybe getting shot by bullets. (Prob not youtube friendly)
Glass smash.
Thank you for the suggestions!
I stated this SAME EXACT comment on Corridor's channel. Just want to be clear on both approaches.
I love this collaboration.
However, I noticed something in both versions that was maybe missed.
In the original China Town, I believe an actual 'stunt knife, with a full blade' was inserted into the actor's nose.
Then, using a quick single frame or two edit, the 'slice, using a 'stunt blade'' was inserted into the shot.
I state this because the metal reflections, refractions and 'ground steel' look, sells the shot.
Just saying, Editors do not always get the credit they deserve. Once in a while, the edit makes the shot more 'real', regardless of the VFX approach used.
As a request... let's go with Marathon Man's 'tooth drilling' scene.. horrible but, really well done.
GRAM TESTER?! That was so cool. Can we maybe get a video about all your various measuring devices? Nothing too specific, just a general overview of all the interesting ways to measure something.
Mmmh real metal! 😊 Even steel! 😃
Love it when there is metal involved! 🥰
Norm, I really want a tour of the cave. This guy is my hero.
Crushing the AT-ST head with 2 logs from Return of the Jedi. I'd love to see that effect practical 1983 style vs modern CGI
YESSSS!!!! PLEEEEASE DO MORE OF THESE!!!!
Love watching the building process and the organized chaos of workshop awesomeness.
You should definitely do a whole series of these with the Corridor Crew. It would be awesome!
We need a practical vs digital series!!!! Corridor and Adam are the perfect representatives for each. Adding in the old vs new in both techniques, ages is just the cherry on top
Please do more projects with Corridor. Love seeing good people work with good people.
This was SUPER cool, and I love seeing how something that looks so complicated could be done so simply. I can't wait for the next Practical vs Digital!!
It's such a blast watching two side of the videos, wish there's more
I absolutely LOVED the editing on this video. The close ups etc highlighting the nuances, it was really good. I hope it stays this way!
Absolutely terrific!!!! I really enjoyed it thanks a lot Adam and the corridor crew for the experience
Miniature house explosion vs CGI/Physic simulated house explosion!!!!!
They both need to model the same house and blow it up. Adam builds a miniature house and Corridor have to model it in 3D.
It's the ultimate battle between real explosions which always look better, but you only have one chance and you can't mess up vs less good-looking explosions, but you get to try until you're happy.