Greyknights v Tau, 8th edition Warhammer 40k battle report

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  • čas přidán 24. 01. 2020
  • Chapter 666 returns to the table top with a little help from the latest GW update, The Ritual of the Damned. They take on the Tau in this 2000 point matched play game.

Komentáře • 431

  • @multecoduri
    @multecoduri Před 4 lety +200

    Super elite astartes , survived the insane initiation process to become a grey knight.
    Teleports on the field - gets one-shot by an alien chicken riding a gorilla.
    The next warp god will be the chaos god of Oof.

  • @PissedOffNerd
    @PissedOffNerd Před 4 lety +89

    Never seen a Dalyth themed tau army on the tabletop before-- thanks for bringing in guests with non-meta unit choices Winters!

  • @notaninquisitor7274
    @notaninquisitor7274 Před 4 lety +172

    WH40k has been successful in getting me out of the house to play my first game at the nearest GW store. As a hermit I have not left the house for anything social on my own in ~15 years. The power of plastic toy soldiers is mighty, indeed.

    • @nightlordAL
      @nightlordAL Před 4 lety +7

      Good too hear, please keep it up

    • @janoschlebon3693
      @janoschlebon3693 Před 4 lety +12

      the emperor protects, welcom to 40k community. lovely guys everywhere!

    • @zaganim3813
      @zaganim3813 Před 4 lety +3

      keep at it soon youll be in vegas hammerin it out with 800+ other nerds!

    • @drose5718
      @drose5718 Před 4 lety

      HELL YEAH BRO

    • @derekdrake8706
      @derekdrake8706 Před 4 lety +1

      Same here xD
      *"Life is the Emperor's currency, spend it well."*

  • @crazydude610
    @crazydude610 Před 4 lety +138

    3:20 Introductions
    4:30 Battle Map credits
    5:24 Grey Knights army
    11:50 Tau Army
    21:50 Unit Placement
    24:40 Turn One Grey Knights
    35:30 Turn One Tau

  • @lanceslarock
    @lanceslarock Před 4 lety +279

    Viewers: Look at all these interesting Tau units we never get to see on the table!
    Winters: *Destroys them all in the first turn*

    • @gb9884
      @gb9884 Před 4 lety +12

      Good riddance

    • @julienvanderfeer4335
      @julienvanderfeer4335 Před 4 lety +13

      Lance LaRock GK are just a boring army to play against

    • @homeskillet4131
      @homeskillet4131 Před 4 lety +5

      The Tau were destroyed....for the greater good. Oooooooooooooooh!

    • @insguy
      @insguy Před 4 lety +3

      exactly. this.

    • @MagikarpsSplash
      @MagikarpsSplash Před 4 lety +2

      This is why we run triptides with 50 drones pretty much exclusively, PA5 looks like it will give us so much more to play with and still be viable, cannot wait.

  • @sab1751
    @sab1751 Před 4 lety +77

    An excellent tutorial for T'au players on what not to do. And I am not talking about sept choice and army build, I like to see different builds, this was a cool T'au army with a cool paint job, so always nice to see. But there are alot of mistakes that cost the T'au player the game from the begining of the game. 1 - Shield drones don't work the way you think. They transform a wounding attack into A SINGLE MORTAL WOUND on a drone, which then gets to ignore it on a 5+. Even a great smite, becomes 1 single mortal wound. 2 - choose your Kau'yon well, especially if you don't have shadowsun, you have none to spare. With cold star commanders, it would have been a breeze to cover the broadsides as well as most of the "firebase". 3 - choose your targets in order of decreasing threats they pose. That Dread knight needed to be taken down, broadsides are made for this, the knights at the other end of the table while also on an objective... were no threat to anyone but the kroots on the hill. 4 - speaking of broadsides, always check your line of fire before you start or end your move phase. You're better to shoot at -1 than not having anything to shoot at. Broadsides are a huge point investment so you need to squeeze every kill out of them. especially against tough targets like GK. 5 - crisis suits are tough cookies, drop them within their maximized efficiency range, especially if you have plasma weapons. In this perticular case, within 12'' would have given you 3 more shots, can you smell the burning GueronSha (space marine in T'au)? 6 - While multiple weapon loadouts on crisis suits give them more flexibility it also dulls the cutting blade that they are. In this case plasma and missiles are for different types of target. plasmas are rapid fire, mid range weapons with high ap and a single wound each, missiles are higher strength, longer range, lesser AP and higher damage. So while plasmas are great at cutting down marines, missiles are not as efficient and you loose some damage unless you play vs primaris. I say this because I'm afraid this video will reinforce that there is only the Triptide Shield Swarm build that is playable for T'au, and I find that build boring as hell. The army showcased here was a fun, original, dynamic build and better played it would serve as an example that there are more to T'au than the boring Triptide Shield Swarm build. And, it was cool to see Da'Lyth, a very cool sept. We need to see more of these original builds. And for that I tip my hat to you fine sirs.

    • @davidma6616
      @davidma6616 Před 4 lety +13

      As a new player who chose T'au, I really appreciate this breakdown. I actually read it before watching the video and I feel like it really helped me push forward my understanding of how to play T'au. I also like the idea of an off-meta build that won't make people not want to play me when I eventually get to my local game store for some matches.

    • @Lfcsweden-n5m
      @Lfcsweden-n5m Před 4 lety +8

      SA B to his defense, played a non optimal army with a funky sept against one of the strongest armies out their and a fairly competive build. If winters would have lost he would be forced to shot down his channel, that’s how big difference it was.

    • @sab1751
      @sab1751 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Lfcsweden-n5m oh you are absolutely right.
      The T'au list lacked punching power for sure.
      But less than the results show.
      It would have been a winnfor GK.
      But not to that level of one sidedness.
      And this is why I am waiting on the 9th edition to see if I stop playing after 12 years.
      7th and especially 8th are discustingly badly designed, boring editions especially for T'au.
      We were one of the most tactical armies there was in 4th, 5th and 6th.
      The dumbing down of the rules and the changing meta that came with it saw us become a Tyranid or Ork list of old (a few good models hiding behind a swarm of disposable shit).
      You can't change so profoundly the way owners of army play the game they have invested thousands of dolars and hours in.
      We'll see I guess

    • @Drogue84
      @Drogue84 Před 4 lety +6

      Great tips and I agree with the main points you make, though surely the bigger mistake on the use of drones is that they can't accept smites at all? They can only intercept attacks, and only if a wound roll is made (which also means that hits that inflict automatic mortal wounds can't have those mortal wounds passed off, but wound rolls that inflict additional mortal wounds are passed off with the normal wounds and together become 1MW on the drone).

    • @Zarasuto
      @Zarasuto Před 4 lety +3

      I will point out, per a recent faq... You can't pass smites off to drones... Even if you could. Mortal wounds are always sets of individual damage.
      5 mortal wounds, regardless would always count as 5 instances of 1 damage.

  • @tadcoder2848
    @tadcoder2848 Před 4 lety +131

    Dude drives 4 hours to roll worse than Winters.

    • @charlesmcguffy
      @charlesmcguffy Před 4 lety +8

      At least conceding early meant he could see the sights of Swindon. Oh wait...

    • @wagzz3000
      @wagzz3000 Před 4 lety +1

      Winters rolls nothing but 5's.

    • @Ocastia
      @Ocastia Před 4 lety

      Jea some of those saves where very painful.

  • @craigwilkie1022
    @craigwilkie1022 Před 4 lety +54

    6 minutes in and he has a “bedallion” on show, Bone and Beard would approve!!!.

    • @Y3xStingray
      @Y3xStingray Před 4 lety +1

      Except it was only a single battalion SMH

  • @alpharius5178
    @alpharius5178 Před 4 lety +10

    “That vehicle that isn’t a vehicle.”
    Papa Dorn does not comprehend!

  • @Saiyuhhh
    @Saiyuhhh Před 4 lety +67

    This is what I love about Winters, the Narrative and armies/troops you never see.

    • @youtubeusername7156
      @youtubeusername7156 Před 4 lety +9

      And no constant wacky behaviour/overacting. Much better.

    • @linkofvev
      @linkofvev Před 4 lety +2

      @@youtubeusername7156 Tabletop Tactics?

    • @linkofvev
      @linkofvev Před 4 lety

      @Sexyhentaiwizard Ah okay I haven't watched them. That said I do still like TTT despite their eccentricity.

    • @redwallmincraft33
      @redwallmincraft33 Před 4 lety +1

      @@youtubeusername7156 If you want clear battle reports without wacky behavior/overacting try StrikingScorpion82, I find that their terrain is pretty awesome.

  • @shadowofhawk55
    @shadowofhawk55 Před 4 lety +12

    I half wanted that Kroot Shaper to live. His men dead around him, a valiant charge into the monsters that slew his friends. And he was cut down very unceremoniously. At least he killed a Grey Knight.

  • @aboocock
    @aboocock Před 4 lety +2

    love that you put good batreps on youtube, wish I could afford to see behind the paywall but I cant so thanks for continuing to put some on here

  • @bearded_death_machine3592
    @bearded_death_machine3592 Před 4 lety +14

    Great to see Winters showing Grey Knights some love, but that T'au army 😍😍😍😍😍

  • @Zinen09
    @Zinen09 Před 4 lety +11

    Kayoun is at the start of movement and means anything using it can't move for any reason... Pretty sure all those units had already moved.

  • @WoffBoot
    @WoffBoot Před 4 lety +4

    Nice batrep, I liked seeing some of the unusual choices for the T'au and that Carl had made the effort to showcase something a bit different and narrative.

  • @W0rmhandler
    @W0rmhandler Před 4 lety +32

    The attack needs to roll to wound to be able to saviour protocol against it, so drones can't save mortal wounds from smite and etc.

    • @Spacefrisian
      @Spacefrisian Před 4 lety

      They cant intercept psychic powers because its a psychic power and not an attack, at least that is what i was told, but i think GW should make this one clear, many more are getting this wrong.

    • @oumikx1393
      @oumikx1393 Před 4 lety +7

      @Spacefrisian It was FAQ’d that you can’t SP smite etc.

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety +8

      Hey, yeah I wasn’t aware of that beforehand, only played tau twice before this game. Fortunately it had zero bearing on the outcome. Learned for next time :)

    • @sab1751
      @sab1751 Před 4 lety

      @@oumikx1393 FAQs
      Q: If an attack inflicts mortal wounds on the target, and the
      attack is subsequently allocated to a Drones unit as a result
      of the Saviour Protocols ability, what happens to those mortal
      wounds inflicted?
      A: They are cancelled. All damage and mortal wounds
      inflicted as the result of that attack is reduced to the
      mortal wound inflicted by the Saviour Protocols ability on
      that Drones unit

    • @sarcasticlittleass
      @sarcasticlittleass Před 4 lety

      well placed drones could screen though :D

  • @Harakiri404
    @Harakiri404 Před 4 lety +70

    49:51 you cannot pass on smites as per the FAQ smites are not attacks.

    • @edwardmorris9882
      @edwardmorris9882 Před 4 lety

      Which faq? You can pass mortal wounds to drones so would be interesting to see the wording. As many psychic powers do mortals wounds just like smite.

    • @Harakiri404
      @Harakiri404 Před 4 lety +19

      @@edwardmorris9882 so first is the change to the ability itself:
      Saviour Protocols Change this ability to read: ‘When resolving an attack made against a Infantry or Battlesuit unit whilst that unit is within 3" of a friendly Drones unit, if the wound roll is successful, you can roll one D6; on a 2+ that Drones unit suffers 1 mortal wound and the attack sequence ends.’
      The second one is the FAQ that specifies that when there is no wound roll you cannot use Savior protocols.
      Q: If an attack inflicts mortal wounds on a unit as a result of a hit roll, and the attack sequence ends before it successfully wounds the target (e.g. the Hellfire Shells Stratagem or an attack made with a shokk attack gun with a Strength characteristic of 11+ that fails to wound the target), can I allocate the mortal wounds to a Drones unit with the Saviour Protocols ability? A: No. As the attack sequence has ended before the target has been wounded, there is no wound to allocate to the Drones unit. Therefore the target suffers the mortal wounds as normal.

    • @edwardmorris9882
      @edwardmorris9882 Před 4 lety

      Thanks that is interesting

    • @Harakiri404
      @Harakiri404 Před 4 lety +2

      @@edwardmorris9882 I guess they did it to limit the power of 50+ shield drones protecting 3 riptides^^

    • @linkofvev
      @linkofvev Před 4 lety +4

      @@Harakiri404 Yup. Shield drones were and still are ridiculously obnoxious. But at least the change curbed this a bit.

  • @sonofbaal40k83
    @sonofbaal40k83 Před 4 lety +63

    Last time I was so early Horus was loyal to the emperor.

  • @keithjohnsonHelios
    @keithjohnsonHelios Před 4 lety +1

    Great video and narration as usual. Much love.

  • @Duppyman695
    @Duppyman695 Před 4 lety +10

    Could it be Grey knights are back baby!!! Love the battlefield, another top spec rep.

  • @hypocriticalview
    @hypocriticalview Před 4 lety +8

    Didn't expect to find a Kenny Omega shirt in this batrep but here we are. Always fun to see where wrestling fans pop up!

  • @antonlukkarinen2648
    @antonlukkarinen2648 Před 4 lety +24

    Poor Krotox being called Kroot Hounds all game...

    • @torinjones3221
      @torinjones3221 Před 4 lety +5

      Poor kroot still not having their own codex and the ability to throw of the the shackles of tau oppression

    • @antonlukkarinen2648
      @antonlukkarinen2648 Před 4 lety +4

      @@torinjones3221 Considering how ridiculously primitive they are I'd say it's not that strange

    • @palloria1538
      @palloria1538 Před 3 lety

      @@torinjones3221 nah its good for them that they serve our will I mean sure loads of them die just to save our own and they are basically not given anything to make them worth using ingame except for if your crazy like me and love using the auxiliaries but they still are getting a good life by working with us

  • @neonhearts4811
    @neonhearts4811 Před 4 lety +1

    really enjoyed the narrative in this video great job :)

  • @phillipthompson5937
    @phillipthompson5937 Před 4 lety +2

    I think that might be the most badass Tau paint job I've seen yet!

  • @YouveGotRyan
    @YouveGotRyan Před 4 lety +30

    Tide of shadows does not say "wholly within" it says the unit needs to be "entirely on or within". Vehicles, at least in ITC, only need to be touching cover to get the -1 to hit.

    • @MrLegendarySaiyan
      @MrLegendarySaiyan Před 4 lety

      It's same in normal rules and ETC.

    • @eskhaphey2873
      @eskhaphey2873 Před 4 lety +1

      No you are right it does not say "wholly within" it says "entirely within" so vehicles do need to be entirely within a terrain feature to gain -1 to hit them, though they do not need to be positioned in a way that they would normally gain cover. So if you were to put your vehicle just touching terrain they would gain cover from Tide of Shadows, but would not gain -1 to hit them as they are not entirely within that terrain feature.

    • @YouveGotRyan
      @YouveGotRyan Před 4 lety +4

      @@eskhaphey2873 tide of shadows says the UNIT needs to be entirely within to gain the -1 to hit bonus. Meaning that for a squad of strike marines to get the bonus, every model needs to be touching cover. Since a vehicle is a single model unit, the vehicle only needs to be touching cover or a terrain feature to get the -1 to hit. It's the same reason your models dont have to be wholly within 3" when you disembark a vehicle.

    • @MaxR0
      @MaxR0 Před 4 lety

      Can you have both the dominus and sanctic disciplines in one army

    • @YouveGotRyan
      @YouveGotRyan Před 4 lety

      @@MaxR0 of course, but only models with the character keyword can choose spells from the sanctic discipline. Also, models can only have spells from one discipline at the same time. For instance, a single librarian cannot know both armoured resilience and sanctuary at the same time, even with the lore master warlord trait.

  • @Strelock17
    @Strelock17 Před 4 lety +1

    The armies and lists are fantastic! Thanks for playing some different and fluffy looking things (speaking to the Tau!).

  • @hanson666999
    @hanson666999 Před 4 lety +2

    The best batrep channel on CZcams. Thanks Winters :^)

  • @zerovalon6243
    @zerovalon6243 Před 4 lety +2

    Dude you get good friend points for taking that lose of that 5 and 6 when you accidentally dropped those. Also this was great to watch. I would really like to see drukari vs grey knights.

  • @EricaBlades
    @EricaBlades Před 4 lety +3

    Really enjoyed this battle report. Grey Knights are my favorite army, so I love seeing them in any report. Dark Angles next? Vs the Thousand Sons for more updates with the new book?
    Or maybe some Sisters games as well?

    • @ak_sushi4808
      @ak_sushi4808 Před 4 lety

      Grey Knights have waited far too long for some much needed attention. Enjoy this, it’s time to hunt daemons!

  • @nealewilliamson7966
    @nealewilliamson7966 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi SEO. I've been following your channel for the last year. I'm not actually a gamer but have always loved the lore of warhammer and really enjoy watching your battles as you make reference/explain the naritives behind each race and why they act/fight in a ceartin way and your battle naritives/stories are highly entertaining. I really enjoy the tactics/fun you and the other gamers clearly have when you battle and it is a testament to your channel that you appeal to not only the hardcore gamers but to individuals like myself who just enjoy watching yous play the game. What would you say are your top 5 games/battles over the years that have went right down to the wire? Cheers Neale

  • @c00n-h2w
    @c00n-h2w Před 4 lety

    Love watching Winter's battle reports, keep it up
    I actually created my own custom army, filled with Tau, guardsman, and Grey Knights, all custom painted

  • @Norglet
    @Norglet Před 4 lety +2

    I've heard it so many times now but I somehow fail to find the page - where does it say in the Codex that Grey Knights get +1 to cast? Thanks guys!

    • @rebelkommando6166
      @rebelkommando6166 Před 4 lety +3

      The rule "Brotherhood of Psykers" gives them +1 to Psychic Tests, whether this is casting a power or denying an enemy power. It's near the end of the codex I believe.

  • @herecomesthatboy1961
    @herecomesthatboy1961 Před 4 lety +5

    Where is the say hi Paul sisters batrep with new codex?

  • @starbugmechanic5236
    @starbugmechanic5236 Před 4 lety

    How do you do the lighting for battle reports?

  • @fabriziopiccolo5646
    @fabriziopiccolo5646 Před 4 lety

    Never played 8th edition, are tanks and armoured veichles in general worth something in this edition? I'm asking cause I've been watching some reports and I didnt spot any, so I guess not.

  • @Kyndral22
    @Kyndral22 Před 4 lety +3

    Ive got to say, Im trying to pick up the Tau but their lack of melee makes it hard, it stresses the importance of keeping units alive, so I thought the Kroot would be good fodder, however the way they look just doesnt mesh with the Tau at all, but after seeing this army, I was very impressed, the color scheme made it all come together really nicely. I really enjoyed picturing the battle going on in my head, a Star Wars like battle where there are two armies fighting, with natives assisting one side. Sort of like the Ewoks on Endor, the Wookies on Kashyyk (spelling), and so on.
    That being said, OUCH, poor Tau, those dice need to be melted down slowly and turned into dominos

    • @alexanderpavlik9420
      @alexanderpavlik9420 Před 3 lety

      Agree with you on the color scheme, love it. Seeing people's Tau armies as a scifi fan I love how they seem so unique in their model form. It just seems like you would absolutely have to be extremely experienced to make them competitive. Which is sad because I do believe that there really is a greater good.

    • @Kyndral22
      @Kyndral22 Před 3 lety

      @@alexanderpavlik9420 yeah the main competitive way ive seen is to do the riptide with a bunch of shield drones thing, which isnt my way of play, so ill play for fun with my melee crisis unit drop team lead by Farsight, its all for the greater good ;)

  • @Dhrakhan
    @Dhrakhan Před 4 lety

    Can someone please explain me why they use a ruler and not a reticule? Why "advances 12 inches" and not "5 squares" or something like that

  • @TheImmersedOfficial
    @TheImmersedOfficial Před 4 lety +4

    Something cool for next time Winters - when you were going after that riptide, think you may have been able to use that stratagem once one unit shoots at it, you can start re-rolling the wounds to "bring it down".

    • @SoldierAssassin98
      @SoldierAssassin98 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm sorry but you are mixing 2 different stratagems, one "command and control node" where you pick a Commander and it may not shoot this phase and pick a battlesuit within 6" that may re-roll failed wound rolls, the other one is a T'au sept specific stratagem "focused fire" that allow you to have a +1 to wound against an enemy unit after that unit has been wounded (unsaved) from another tau unit.

    • @TheImmersedOfficial
      @TheImmersedOfficial Před 4 lety +1

      @@SoldierAssassin98 not for the tau, was meaning for the grey knights trying to shoot at the riptide. Think it's one of the new stratagems from the psychic awakening book. Not sure of riptides are classed as vehicles or monsters though..

    • @SoldierAssassin98
      @SoldierAssassin98 Před 4 lety

      @@TheImmersedOfficial oh my bad, I misunderstood

  • @endlesswaffles6504
    @endlesswaffles6504 Před 4 lety +3

    How long does it take to set up and clean up all that gravel? xD

  • @humansRpepul2
    @humansRpepul2 Před 4 lety

    Since MW's aren't weapon attacks, how do shield drones intercept them? Per last FAQ

  • @ThisIsReallyZach
    @ThisIsReallyZach Před 4 lety

    Does subscribing to Patreon give access to the DZTV videos or are they separate subscriptions?

  • @Neffariousnyc
    @Neffariousnyc Před 4 lety

    Is the SMITE psychic power considered an Attack Roll? Cuz Savior Protocols only allows wound passing when resolving an Attack Roll.

    • @raedkhalil6937
      @raedkhalil6937 Před 4 lety

      No it's not, the opponent made a mistake. Smites were never able to be passed off by saviour protocol. But it's ok, didn't change the outcome of the game an both players had loads of fun.

  • @paulsim7589
    @paulsim7589 Před 4 lety +1

    Awsome video, really enjoyed it. As soon as I saw the Tau heavy weapons with rubish mobility in one corner, I was like "O'dear". Still an honrable game :) I really enjoyed the Tau list. I am sure now he has experianced the new Grayknights he would alter his stragaty, but the army comp was fine.

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety +1

      Paul Sim thanks for the kind words. Yeah i flubbed up deploying them there. My plan was to kind of lure his forces in and kind of pull my castle back towards them but didn’t quite go to plan haha. Yeah I’d change plans if doing the game again, Would castle up more and bubble wrap with the kroot and push them forward pre game and not spread my army too wide and also take ats on the broadsides as -1 ap just didn’t cut it against tide of shadows . Hey ho lessons learned

    • @paulsim7589
      @paulsim7589 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kahlcarl after the hard lesson of his first turn, your army had lost its unit with poor mobility on that (your right) flank, if you had pulled back hard towards your left flank, you would of pulled him intowards your heavy weapons whilst minimising his return fire due to his range limitations. As his list only has a few mobile units per phaze. Still thats all hind sight. But owning his side of that middle ridge would of given him a hard time trying to consentrate firepower on you. I think your dice gods also looked the other way :)
      Edit **of course that sounds good, but I suppose he would of pinned you with the deep strike troops if you pulled back to hard... ahh so maybe not a good plan afterall...**

  • @alexlloyd2198
    @alexlloyd2198 Před 4 lety

    Should your storm bolters wounded the crisis suits on 5+ i stead of 4+ as they are T5 and storm bolters are S4.

  • @stevefelten1197
    @stevefelten1197 Před 4 lety +2

    Damn, Grey Knights got OP congrats you all needed that.

  • @pieriniedoardo5839
    @pieriniedoardo5839 Před 4 lety +4

    "GK got blown away by Tau"
    They would get blown away by a light breeze before the PA update

  • @Ghooligan
    @Ghooligan Před 4 lety

    keep up the great work luv ur vids and warhammer have fun

  • @vizerandevir6422
    @vizerandevir6422 Před 4 lety +10

    Somebody sketch "Nemesis Dreadnewt suit" and send it to Winters.

  • @Velgar_Grim
    @Velgar_Grim Před 4 lety +3

    I'd see the argument for the Tide of Shadows that since it's the Unit that needs to be entirely on or within, the Nemesis-bois would get the -1 by toeing the terrain, since their whole Unit (aka 1 Model) would be on a terrain.

  • @joesmith3510
    @joesmith3510 Před 4 lety +1

    Very enjoyable battle report. It is refreshing seeing people using non competitive lists and factions. I hope The Greater Good book rewards some of this non traditional lists for the Tau.

  • @j453
    @j453 Před 4 lety +1

    Those rocks look loose, do you just have a bag/bags of rocks that you pore out on the table and like, sweep up after or something? They just dont look glued to a base.

    • @peterdickinson4599
      @peterdickinson4599 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s aquarium gravel. Locate the large terrain first. Put handfuls of gravel in place and then use a hand-brush to tidy up the edges. Use the dust-pan along with the brush to clear up after the game. Pretty simple. But takes experience to dress a game-table as well as Winters does.

    • @j453
      @j453 Před 3 lety +1

      @@peterdickinson4599 his table allways looks nice

  • @greatmoney
    @greatmoney Před 4 lety +1

    What a bloody fight! I know everyone "hates" Tau, but they look SO cool. However, Winters, I think you've given me the 40k bug with your Grey knights :)

  • @messie7373
    @messie7373 Před 4 lety

    Great battle report i needed something like this tau vs grey knights woohooo!

  • @metalore
    @metalore Před 4 lety

    Are Kroot useful now? I stopped playing in 5th edition.

  • @daemonnexusknight
    @daemonnexusknight Před 4 lety +2

    I have to say that I really enjoyed seeing an unconventional T'au list for a change. Sure, they didn't do as well as the meta list did but getting first turn may have changed that. I don't often enjoy watching T'au games, so thanks for this! :)

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety +2

      Jeremy Blankenship thank you, really appreciate that comment :)

    • @daemonnexusknight
      @daemonnexusknight Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kahlcarl You are most welcome! I look forward to seeing you again on other Winters/Moarhammer BatReps!

  • @sportsbanter3885
    @sportsbanter3885 Před 4 lety +5

    This is such an awesome war game, I don't like every single unit having an action every turn, a large army with lots of fire power will chew an army up before they even have their turn. Puts way too much importance on who goes 1st.....

  • @law-us4tm
    @law-us4tm Před 4 lety +3

    Winters opponent should be called King Tut

    • @wezza36
      @wezza36 Před 4 lety +1

      When you notice looooool

  • @TLDelapore
    @TLDelapore Před 4 lety

    Is it just me or does that ancient chaos shrine have a power outlet?

  • @Ulfsark1602
    @Ulfsark1602 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the channel.

  • @brim-skerdouglasson
    @brim-skerdouglasson Před 4 lety

    Where can I get those rocks? They seem like white aquarium rocks

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 4 lety

      It's just a mixture of aquarium gravels

  • @beanie1636
    @beanie1636 Před 4 lety +1

    YEEAAHH! Krootox! Love those guys.

  • @bellportbattlebunker4682

    Can savior protocols be used against smite?

    • @boomheadshotyeah
      @boomheadshotyeah Před 4 lety

      Bellport Battle Bunker Nope! Savior protocols can only protect against range and melee attacks, not psychic powers or any similar abilities since they don’t considered as attacks.

  • @Phytoon
    @Phytoon Před 4 lety +3

    I see these small pebbles all the time on this channel, but this time they're much more massed together. Are those all loose, or do you group them together with something? That's gotta be a pain to set up if they're all individual pebbles.

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 4 lety +7

      A box full of gravel is an easy way to add some depth and texture. Just keep a dustpan handy and you're golden

    • @peterdickinson4599
      @peterdickinson4599 Před 3 lety

      Dust-pan and hand-brush mate.

  • @ezegaming2115
    @ezegaming2115 Před 4 lety

    Even super smites for the grey knights only do 2 damage?

    • @geoalpharius396
      @geoalpharius396 Před 4 lety

      They cannot super smite, but always smite on 4's, because of brotherhood of psychers and -1 to cast.

  • @GuyUnderTheBridge
    @GuyUnderTheBridge Před 4 lety +2

    Also you can't pass smites off to drones. Savior Protocol only comes into effect after a successful Wound roll, there are no Wound rolls in a psychic test.

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety +3

      GuyUnderTheBridge hey, yeah I wasn’t aware of this beforehand. I’ve caught up on the faq so I know for next time :)

    • @viktorvh5511
      @viktorvh5511 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kahlcarl Thank you for bringing a narrative-driven list and even though you passed the mortal wounds onto the drones you cheated yourself by thinking the crisis suits are T4, so in the end, it balanced out. Also, Kauyon allows you to choose friendly units within 6" to reroll all failed to-hit rolls, but they cannot move for any reason. The key here you can choose since they dropped an FAQ like a year ago so if you wanna move you still can. Great army by the way

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety

      Viktor Grushovyy yeah I was re reading the codex and realised this as well 👍 again unintentional and I know for next time :) still learning them haha

  • @scottlock8584
    @scottlock8584 Před 4 lety

    I might be wrong but aren't you not allowed to take 2 Coldstar suits ???

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety

      Scott Lock hey, your limited to one commander (any type) per detachment. I had one heading up each of my 3 detachments :)

    • @scottlock8584
      @scottlock8584 Před 4 lety

      @@Kahlcarlahh ok my mistake

  • @Thrawnmulus
    @Thrawnmulus Před 4 lety

    Much like a certain someone reviewing Dawn of War Soulstorm, at the begining cinematic, why are the whitch hunters fighting people that don't know what magic is?

  • @rabbitsnraygunswithgregsch7648

    Whhhaaaaa?
    I can’t wait to watch this!

  • @valkyriegremory
    @valkyriegremory Před 4 lety

    Thanks Winter for a Sunday battle report and can u do a sister of battle battle report?

  • @ttgamefinder3640
    @ttgamefinder3640 Před 4 lety

    Anyone noticed that noise the other guy makes before he says anything or is that just me ? I think its just me

  • @8xon8
    @8xon8 Před 4 lety

    The ethereal's storm of fire ability allows you to re-roll 1s if you don't move

  • @okeys7
    @okeys7 Před 4 lety

    Cool to see Kroot!

  • @nickyount1747
    @nickyount1747 Před 4 lety +1

    37:11 "dreadnoot... suit" lol

  • @reapering125
    @reapering125 Před 4 lety

    why didny you ignore the riptide and wipe everything off the board lol

  • @Caesar446
    @Caesar446 Před 4 lety +2

    Great battle report. :) Just a quick note, saviour protocols only work off of melee and shooting. They are unable to block mortal wounds (2018 errata).

  • @donsk1022
    @donsk1022 Před 4 lety +34

    Great batrep but the lip smacking drove me crazy

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 Před 4 lety +9

      It's been ten seconds and I feel it already

    • @alexandergreen1456
      @alexandergreen1456 Před 4 lety +4

      OMG yes! It was super annoying lol

    • @quasistellar
      @quasistellar Před 4 lety +4

      Man I was just going to say but was looking to see if someone else noticed first. It’s one of those things that is REALLY noticeable when played back in any kind of recording.
      This guy is PARTICULARLY horrific with it.

    • @gb9884
      @gb9884 Před 4 lety +3

      *smacks lips
      Yeah man I feel ya.

  • @justinfernandez2371
    @justinfernandez2371 Před 2 lety

    Would love to see some more Tau!

  • @Spacefrisian
    @Spacefrisian Před 4 lety +1

    I see a trend here with Grey Knight armies not having enough units/points to make a full on Greyknights list for batreps, 1 would think they got new stuff to work with.....
    Yezz they did, i know :P

  • @teessidetyrants1989
    @teessidetyrants1989 Před 4 lety +1

    Poor Poor Tau. The dice deserted them.

  • @JLakpuri
    @JLakpuri Před 4 lety +1

    No tactical doctrine?

  • @ChampionofTerra
    @ChampionofTerra Před 4 lety +6

    The fact that Grey Knight are getting this much love, is warming my hearth )

    • @ak_sushi4808
      @ak_sushi4808 Před 4 lety +1

      It’s finally time to awaken your Grey paperweights from their slumber

  • @kevinpatrickcarey3741
    @kevinpatrickcarey3741 Před 4 lety +1

    the scenery is beautiful

    • @georgeryan8267
      @georgeryan8267 Před 4 lety

      i think there decor for fish tanks lol
      i think i may do that too

  • @Laidbackjames1
    @Laidbackjames1 Před 4 lety

    I thought there was a new rule where both armies fired at the same time so the person who goes first doesn't have a massive advantage?

    • @nightside100
      @nightside100 Před 4 lety

      They do in kill team, I'm pretty sure they haven't brought it to the actual wargame yet. Would make things interesting though.

  • @danielstephens1313
    @danielstephens1313 Před 4 lety

    Don't see Kroot too often. How cool.

  • @MilStdNZ
    @MilStdNZ Před 4 lety +1

    I want you to get out of the factory too. I would suggest that you are doing a great job right up until you mention that. I have supported DZTV (by buying merch) and I'm sure others will too. I hope that you cross that threshold soon.

  • @briancline7349
    @briancline7349 Před 4 lety

    That battle mat always looks like frozen ice to me... 🧊

  • @Thebramforpresident1
    @Thebramforpresident1 Před 4 lety

    No HQ?

  • @homeskillet4131
    @homeskillet4131 Před 4 lety

    Me being a big GK nerd was just yelling at myself while you were shooting that Riptide in turn 2, going "Use Bring it Down! Use Bring it Down!"

  • @janoschlebon3693
    @janoschlebon3693 Před 4 lety

    well played winters! but cozy tau list ^^

  • @thetransporter8585
    @thetransporter8585 Před 4 lety +1

    Should have dropped the CP for bring down the beat out of the new book when you started shooting the riptide with storm bolters. Rerolling wounds would have been useful

  • @nicholasmontgomery9626
    @nicholasmontgomery9626 Před 4 lety +1

    We are the hammer!

  • @retrokrempel
    @retrokrempel Před 4 lety

    All this Big Robots with his Marins in babybjörn Suites😂😂😂

  • @peterdickinson4599
    @peterdickinson4599 Před 3 lety

    I’m new to 40K - watching these BatReps in order to learn the game and choose an army to play - but I have to say, this battle really made me take a step back and wonder whether I want to play 40K at all. I understand that it is a significant investment in time, effort, and money putting together a thematically pleasing army - and I’m okay with that, I enjoy the craft side of the hobby - but it’s the 40K order of play that is really starting to put me off. One side takes all their actions while the other player just watches and makes save rolls - so much dead playtime - and then the position is reversed. That an entire army can take all its moves FIRST based on a dice roll is ridiculous. This is the 21st century and that kind of gameplay mechanic is medievally clunky. Even GO knows going first is an unfair advantage so the second player gets an automatic point increase. Units being fired upon don’t even have the opportunity to return fire. Just sit there and be wiped out. I’m beginning to think that 40K might not be for me. It’s an undeniably pretty game, but under the surface you get the feeling that there is not a central person with a clear vision of a better game and the passion to make it a reality taking charge of the development of each edition, which leads to extremely conservative committees headed by accountants releasing unbalanced editions of the rules that require patches to be added to patches rather than ever addressing fundamental issues. Deep lore is a poor replacement for elegant gameplay; it’s a distraction from poor game design. And it’s said style over substance started with Kickstarter. Hmmm...

  • @Painting_Roses
    @Painting_Roses Před 4 lety +13

    first turn advantage is yet again far to big in warhammer, there really need to be better rules and ways to deal with first turn advantage

    • @kyledukes49
      @kyledukes49 Před 4 lety +1

      Why not have player who goes first unable to use strategems?

    • @Painting_Roses
      @Painting_Roses Před 4 lety

      @@kyledukes49 that might be a good idea, tho I am most concerned with the shooting prowess of some armies and their tendencies to wipe away a kwarter of the enemy turn one. the armies just start so close to eachother, and there is so much good shooting, especially som races are verry susceptible as they are pretty squishy.

    • @qutini
      @qutini Před 4 lety +2

      I'm newb to this. But the Tau player seemed to position his army way too spread out. He should've forced his opponent to face off against the XV88s. The Kroot are cannon fodder, so losing them like that is to be expected, especially against those kind of troops. The Kroot should've been used to make charging the Tau difficult, to make the opponent think again if he really want to charge into some simple Kroot and be fired upon by heavy overwatch fire. The map did seem a bit small, but maybe thats because of the teleporting ability from the Grey knights? Tau have long range weapons, if I didn't get first turn I'd put most things grouped up and at the edge of the map(maybe the Kroot a bit ahead, so they could advance to the objectives). Especially since his Coldstar battlesuits have so much movement.
      Though I do find Smite to be a bullshit ability after watching this battle report.

    • @kyleo.6995
      @kyleo.6995 Před 4 lety +5

      Right, what exactly is the draw back of smite? Just seems like every unit got an extra two shot each turn with a super easy roll. Looked quite OP and honestly made the game not much fun to watch when one team is rerolling all their ones and gets and entire extra attack phase

    • @Painting_Roses
      @Painting_Roses Před 4 lety +1

      @@qutini He certainly could have played it better, but I think going second seems like a death sentence most games. especially playing a t3 faction without great armour saves.

  • @thomasalegredelasoujeole9998

    Geeeez, 3 dread knights... Winters, you glutton ^^

  • @genuz
    @genuz Před 4 lety

    Okay okay, I'll take Music to be Murdered To off repeat for an hour to listen to this battlereport.

    • @genuz
      @genuz Před 4 lety

      @Alien Alien Hey! Lucas Graham is not for everyone either and Baby Shark just doesn't do it for me.

  • @TheGameCraftDragon
    @TheGameCraftDragon Před 4 lety +1

    Great guest! Hope to see him more in the future! Grey Knights got good!

    • @Kahlcarl
      @Kahlcarl Před 4 lety

      The GameCraft Dragon thanks for comment

    • @TheGameCraftDragon
      @TheGameCraftDragon Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kahlcarl Your Tau were wonderfully painted. Right beautiful army. Love the color scheme.

  • @GreatChickenGod
    @GreatChickenGod Před 4 lety

    you only perils only on double 1's or 6's unless other effects cause you to peril on all doubles like the Master of Possesions

  • @williamlindsay5221
    @williamlindsay5221 Před 4 lety +1

    this battle makes me wonder why people are afraid of tau firepower

  • @jeremymorris1530
    @jeremymorris1530 Před 4 lety

    You can't pass mortal wounds on to drones from psychics, only wounds that result in a wound roll being made, the suit should be taking damage