Brooks Hyperion Max - Best Brooks Running Shoe?
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- It’s been almost three years since Brooks initially released the Hyperion Tempo, and it hasn’t gotten an update since. But now, we’ve finally gotten the long overdue follow up. This is the Hyperion Max, and it just may have been worth the wait.
0:00 intro
0:48 disclosures
1:04 specs
4:21 what's it like
8:35 summary
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If the FOD Runner isn't sent a pair of these, Brooks are missing a trick! He's been the biggest advocate of the Hyperion Tempo ever.
That would be a dream 🙏
@@TheFODRunner they can't have missed your advocacy, they just can't.
Thank you Ko… your reviews are always so very helpful
Thanks for the review, I like how you’ve provided other shoes to pair this with as a compliment in an arsenal of shoes for race day and training!
Love at first ride… Took these out for an 80 min spin today. Smooth as butter and fast from the first stride but can handle normal run pace just as beautifully.
Great video so far, the best running channel I’ve come across.
The intro style of the Chanel is JUST AWESOME every time
I just bought this shoe and the way you explained how it feels at first is exactly how I thought about it, as soon as you start running in it and get use to it, the shoe is great 👍
Glad to hear it’s working for you!
Thanks for the great review! Felt your channel being going up in providing quality contents, whereas others, like that Seth Guy you used to have a run together, kept going down.
Loved the feel of this in the store
Great review, Mike! I've been curious about this shoe since I first heard about it coming to Brooks's line-up 8-9 months ago. I still don't know why Brooks removed the word "tempo" from other non-max version of the Hyperion. The word tempo is a great selling point for people who want a lighter weight, lesser cushioned, speedy shoe. Up to them, I guess. Also, I believe the new "Hyperion" is dropping to $140. And there will be a GTS version of the Hyperion as well.
Because any part of the name that sounds "fast" is a turnoff for 90% of consumers who are looking for just a shoe for walking/jogging. Those people may still enjoy a lighter shoe but don't need to be told that the shoe is "only" for faster running.
The Hyperion Tempo is still one of my favorite shoes to run in even with everything that has been rolled out since its release. The Hyperion Max will be a must pick up for me I think. Just need to retire a few pairs of shoes first with my current training block.
Very thought-provoking info. Thanks.
thanks for watching!
Great review. I run in these and love them. Very light and the cushion is just perfect. I was also looking for grip and it’s got ton of it.
Thanks for the feedback!
Some great information there Kofuzi
Thanks!
Great content I have subscribed,thank you!
thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Thanks for the review Ko! Just won a pair of these on an IG giveaway 🥳
Happy running
I am interested in these. I'm glad you mentioned the difference between the walking sensation and the running sensation. I think this is overlooked in a lot of reviews. Most of the time, the average consumer only gets to try a shoe walking around a store or in the home. I think its good information as if my experience walking in them matches yours, then the running experience my have some similarities too... maybe.
Have 2 pairs of the Hyperion Tempo. Amazing shoe. Will buy the Max 👍🏻
I'm in the same same situation... Got white and then black and orange as second pair but now I think I'm thinking of the Max
So glad they haven’t changed the Tempo. Great shoe
The original is still a shoe that I have but don't use that often. I took it to the tm last night and it still feels great. I will likely run this one out before looking at the update.
I put just under 200 miles on these shoes in the last 3 months and I love them.
Nice
These look super promising and I like that there is no plate.
Ive always rolled my eyes at brooks shoes but I took these for 9 miles out the box and I hate that I love them
Brooks is always gonna Brooks. But once in a while, they have a gem
I ran 10 in them today and I share the exact same sentiment!
💪🏼🙏🏽🏃🏽♀️
@@kofuzi what does that mean?
Why do you roll up your eyes at Brooks’ shoes?
@@FM-fl6ykThey are less flashy than other brands and rely on consistency in their core sellers without making huge changes. They have…maybe undeservedly…a reputation as “dad shoes”.
FYI, I tried the Hyperion Max on in store and it blew me away.
Timely review for me since I’m returning to the running store today to try them a 2nd time, along with the Nimbus 25 (different use cases). I’m on my 2nd pair of the Hyp. Tempo-one of my favorite shoes ever-and was wondering whether the roll geometry of this will suit me or if they’d be too stiff. I think I could see from your toe off on the video that the midsole does appear to flex, which I forgot to check myself when I put them on hold last week. I concur that the upper fit and lockdown are terrific.
Hmmm. It does seem to be a bit of a more rigid forefoot, likely due to the extra thickness
Bro I remember way back earlier on in the channel when you first started losing weight. You look really good now I’m starting my journey again just started walking today. It was a struggle but gotta start somewhere.
a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
@@kofuzi thank you
I absolutely love the Hyperion tempo but I always thought it could use a bit more cushion. Im going to try these!
Did you try!?.
I have the Max and it was such a reliable shoe. I even over used it for long runs and about 3 marathons but now I'm thinking Max or to do the tempo again since it's very discounted. I could use the extra money for Pro 3 or another Pro 2. Thanks
I think it is a good update after ridiculously long 3 years. It looks like Brooks design department was at loss what to do after a very good Hyperion Tempo, so they just limited themselves to producing many colorways in this time frame.
Personally, the use of "Max" is unfortunate. It is not a max. stack shoe by today's standards. It is not even as high as "Endorphin Speed". I think it would have been better to call it something else, say Hyperion Trainer or Hyperion Plus.
I would have preferred the price point at $160 since new model "Hyperion" to replace "Hyperion Tempo" is being reduced to $140 (at least that is what was said by Brooks in The Running Event)
It does not have a plate, but I think it compares favorably against Saucony Endorphin Speed and PUMA Deviate Nitro 2. Mike would you consider making comparisons between these shoes?
At this point I have the Max and the Tempo, but the Levitate 2 is still my favorite shoe, even thought it’s getting old now.
Thanks for the review as always! Wondering what the traction like in the wet? Looking for new speed shoe...current is the rocket X...but its nod good in the wet...would the Hyperion Max be better or worse than the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite or Elite 2?
Yoo great video Kofuzi! Can you plsss make a video on the Alpha FLY Next % 2? I really want to see the original and this one's difference!
I’ve been trying to get a pair of AF2 for a while but have been having difficulty finding it in my size. I will probably wait for v3 at this point
I've really just been waiting to see your review of the Asics Gel-Nimbus 25
I try not to release reviews until we get close to the release date
But feel free to come to the livestream and ask me whatever you like
i can hear u kofuzi sir
Tempo is interesting for me! Ghosts are still my daily runners. I like the toe box a bit wider . Because my fear may be a bit wider than others. This makes the Brooks more comfortable for me.
I’m looking for non carbon plated racing shoes because very often have tibia or calf injuries. I’m thinking of Hyperion Max/Mach 6/Kinvara. What would you recommend for up to 10k races? My 10k PB is around 43 min. Thanks.
Awesome review and very thorough! Would you say that the fit could accommodate a wider foot? I currently run in the cloudsurfer 7 and find that the fit is just wide enough for me.
I might use the endorphin speed 3 and the fourth version for the meantime. Though not comfortable wearing firm shoes like a boston series.
Reminds me of the Asics Evoride 3.
I know this was posted a while ago, but how would you compare this to the Superblast as a utility shoe for easy runs, workouts, and long runs?
I got a pair of these from my local Brooks rep - and on my first run in them, I almost went home within the first mile to change into different shoes, because I HATED THEM - the midsole felt like a brick. But I stuck with it, and after about 10-15min it felt like the midsole "warmed up" and turned into a fantastic experience for the rest of my run.
Have you done a tempo run in them?
I found that the Hyperion Tempos started to sing after the initial 10-15 minutes as well. Was there a temperature factor or just a foam break-in (15 min. is pretty minimal, if so).
I had the same experience in Hyperion Tempo. The midsole feels really stiff during the warm up and maybe half way through the first rep of a work out and then softens up .
I had the same experience with the Hyperion Elite 2
The Glycerin 20 has been my main shoe, used for all runs (including a marathon). I am thinking this may be a good partner shoe for up tempo work to the glycerin? Was also wondering if it would be a good marathon shoe for someone who likes the Brooks DNA flash foam?
Kofuzi we need an saucony endorphin elite review asap
Picked up a pair on clearance from Dicks after they sent me a $10 reward (though I haven’t bought anything in a year) bringing the price down to $55! Newer and heavier runner that has liked the Brooks Ghost and Hoka Clifton 9, but I also wanted a shoe for speed runs and race days. This seemed like a good choice for me with the extra midsole cushion!
Hope you enjoy!
I did my second marathon in the rain wearing the Hyperion elite, by the end of the race they felt like I was running on bricks. I was tired so my stride was probably off, but it did help me realize I needed a softer foam. What would you recommend? I did love the foam in the aurora blue line from brooks.
I feel like these are gonna max out at a half-marathon distance. I feel like it's a terrific 10K - Half shoe.
I have a hard time not recommending Saucony's Endorphin Speed as a full-marathon alternative. Still nice and light, great upper fit and lockdown, snappy nylon plate, and PowerRunPB super cush foam, without spending race-day $$$$.
@@AlbieDay Speed 2 much better than the 3.
If you don’t wanna go full carbon, I’d suggest either the endo speed 3 (more stable and softer than the previous versions, seems more in your wheel house) or the puma deviate 2, as it also has a nitro foam like the aurora and other higher end brooks shoes. If you go with carbon, I’d say either the rc elite 2 / sc elite 3 or the deviate elite for the softer foams.
Hi Mike, how would you compare Brook Hyperion Max vs Asics Superblast? looks like similar category, longer tempo runs primarily. So curious what's the main differences, I mean your views/feelings on the specific runs, energy return, cushioning etc. Thanks a lot. Peter from Slovakia
Superblast has a crazy high stack and more rigid rocker.
Thanks for the info, K! $170 is a lot for that shoe IMO.
Should it be the same price as the Hyperion though? Is the Hyperion not worth $150? It’s a pricing conundrum
@@kofuzi No, not the same price as the Hyperion but I am not a fan of that shoe. I guess I would say that the Hyperion is overpriced too, especially with something like the Magic Speed at the same price, maybe $10 more. Just my opinion.
@J S don't bother with this shoe either than . Quite dull feeling shoe. The midsole feels boring . Its lightweight and all but for that price you can get some endorphin speed 3 or even discounted endorphin pro 3 . Or puma deviate nitro 2. All are better than this one
@@fabsterun excellent points! Dull is a good word for the Hyperion midsole and I can’t imagine using more of it would change it that much. The Puma Deviate Nitro 2 is an excellent alternative at the price. Maybe this is a good shoe for runners who don’t like a lot of cushion or who prefer a firmer ride.
@J S exactly agreed 100% with you. There is firmer ride shoes that are more fun and more comfy than this one tho . I almost wonder if they purposely releases this in colder months . The breathability om these is like wearing wooden clogs
How would you comprar them to the Adizero Adios Pro 3? I’m still deciding between these two which ones will be the ones I’ll get.
Super good and thorough review! In your opinion, what would be the limitation of using it as marathon racing shoe?
It’s might feel a bit dense underfoot for that distance. It will depend on preferences
TEMPO is here around 100€, really light shoe.
Everyone is now designing their own 1080!
This ain’t nothing like a 1080
Are you ever tempted to talk us through your training plans in a separate video? Would be curious to see what your regime/routine is. Appreciate that might be niche, mind you
I go back and forth on whether to do that. I used to discuss it in great detail.
@@kofuzi the multi marathon effort would have been interesting, to me at least!, That must have taken some planning. Or, if it didn't, that would have been of note too (if you see what I mean)
One of the best trainers I’ve ever had! (And I have 28 running shoes 👞:))
Nice
2:06 ROGUE NOSE-HAIR ' RIGHT NOSTRIL '
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Would you consider doing a review of Topo Athletic Cyclone 2?
@kofuzi Would you recommend the Hyperion Max for a hill half marathon (road race) in wet conditions?
I wouldn't worry about the wet
I love my Brooks glycerine 20
Hello sir, I am currently training for a half marathon (my first) tho I am more in the heavier side due to my main sport being powerlifting. Would this be enough to cushion the blow of my stride against concrete to my poor knees?
Yes. Also consider Adidas Boston 12, Asics Superblast, or Puma Deviate Nitro 2
I love the Tempo. I call it “nimble.” It’s very responsive without being squishy like the Rebel. I’m not a rocker guy. I liked that the tempo didn’t have much of one. I’m more of a forefoot striker like you. How does the rocker ride in the max differ from the tempo ride?
Ran a bit in it. It’s pretty well rockered. And awesome.
how does the Hyperion Max compare to the Saucony Tempus and the Asics Superblast? I’m looking for a stable long run/race day shoe to add into my rotation and am down to these three.
The Tempus is a max stability shoe and I have not tested it. I enjoy the Superblast most for long runs at marathon pace. The Hyperion max can be used as a daily trainer but I think it’s best use case is for workouts at 5k to threshold ranges
On sale at Dicks for $65 in 3 colorways so grabbed a pair to try
Nice
I love my brooks adrenaline
here in Brazil this shoe came as a 100$ dollars
Sometimes even less...some people bought in Black Friday for US$85!!! Truly great shoe.
Hope they send you the saucony endorphin elite
Sir brook Hyperion max vs nike pegasus 39 which will be better. I do speed walking of 18km and 3km running also everyday.. choose a better one between these 2 shoes
@kofuzi Brooks Hyperion max is available in India at 82$ now… should I get a pair of these?
Can anyone comment on if these would be a good stable first marathon shoe? The soft carbon plated shoes are too much. Might just go with my Glycerin 20 GTS daily trainer but wondering if these would fit the bill over 26.2 for a very non-elite
I think you’d like it
As someone who doesn't want to race in plated shoes because it's an apples to oranges comparison to normal training, this sounds like the perfect marathon shoe for me. That being said - I just picked up the Saucony Tempus on discount for a similar use case. (Yes, I know it's stability, but most publications find it a stability shoe that neutral runners would enjoy)
I do think you'd enjoy this one
Same. I run half marathons in the Reebok runfast pro‘s. Run anything from 5 to 21 km in them.
Did you ever run a marathon in these @tsubakichan
If so how did you get on? Thanks
@@Ellerybish I have not purchased the Hyperion Max, if that's what you're asking. If you are asking about the Tempus, I can update you in 3 weeks...
Im conflicted the Hyperion finally went on sale to $100! But then I saw the Hyperion Max, should I pay $70 more to get the newer model. Btw I enjoyed the Hyperion tempos very much.
life is too short to run in shoes that you don't like, no matter how good the deal
33/25 stack according to OldManRunner (YT)
I tried a pair of these on in the running shop yesterday. They felt very nice, but as a heel-striker I was landing right on the 'corner' of that cutaway heel, so unfortunately weren't the shoes for me.
What did you pick instead?
@@kofuzi I got some Magic Speed 1s in the end. The midsole felt nice and they seemed to suit my stride really well. I'm looking forward to racing in them soon
Recomendef or not?
What about for a race shoe? For a 5k or 10k, this or tempo?
Could go with either. I’d lean towards the shoe previous known as the Tempo
for that price... hyperion max or adidas takumi sen 9?
If you find TS8 deeply discounted, get it since there is very little change between TS8 and TS9. Pre-thanksgiving, I was able to buy two pairs of TS8 at $72 each.
That said I would prefer TS8/TS9 for shorter runs/workouts since shoe is lighter with minimal upper and minimal outsole rubber. I think Hyperion Max can be better for longer runs which the more build-up upper in Hyperion Tempo & Max provides a bit more comfort, a bit better heel hold, a bit less pressure on top of the foot and Hyperion Tempo/Max has much better outsole rubber coverage that extends the durability of the shoe. TS8/TS9 really has very minimal rubber (however it is very grippy as long as it lasts)
Like I said on insta. For a brooks they are ok... bit dull shoe. Send them back
I laud your consistency
0:11 that outsole reminds me of something and now I feel really weird about these shoes.
C’mon it can’t just be me
One sees what they want to see
Would it be good for 5-10k races?
Yes
Sheesh I just “invested” in the Tempo
It’s still a good shoe
Or if you did just get it. Maybe you can exchange?
@@kofuzi I think I’ll keep it, it fits well and perhaps will look out for the new version in the future 👍 Thanks for the review
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not sure what was going on, but it seems like audio is here now?
Marathon in a pair of Max , thoughts ?
I don’t know that I would choose it for that purpose, but it will work
@@kofuzi If I make it to the end of the next marathon I’ll dedicate it to kofuzi . Thanks
It’s an ok shoe. But the price point of $170, for what the shoe is, is ridiculous. It’s a bit of a niche shoe that doesn’t really have a place in most people’s shoe rotation. If I needed a shoe like this I’d pick up some Hyperion Tempos if they go on clearance over the Max.
Agree...$170 for essentially the Hyperion Tempo (3 year old model) with a few more millimeters of the same foam.
I think Hyperion Max, despite not having a plate, is comparable to Saucony Endorphin Speed and PUMA Deviate Nitro 2. I think the price point is OK, I would have preferred $160 better but if it is like Hyperion Tempo, it is likely to last long. On the other hand, "Hyperion tempo" is becoming just "Hyperion" soon and they are reducing the price to $140 (well that is what the Brooks rep was saying in The Running Event)
this over the adios pro 3?
I would not go that way, especially since some colors of the Adios Pro 3 are currently on sale for just $5 more than the Hyperion Max
@@kofuzi gotcha. i got the pro 3 for $105 after discount and voucher. on it's way. really cant wait. great review btw.
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For 3-4 pace,this or tempo?
I'm not sure I understand the question
@@kofuzi for 3 to 4 pace which is better?this or Hyperion tempo?
How is the comfort level to just walk in ?
It’s a touch firm for just walking
These shoes want to run, like a bicycle shoe wants to pedal and a ski boot wants to ski.
nimbus 25, no?
Very different
@@kofuzi i mean review 😅
Yo first
yo!
No sound...?
Same, no audio
Working now
I’ve got sound
Nope no sound for me
I have sound, but only 360p
Have you ever tried "barefoot" shoes?
Silent video.
Fantastic curve ball.
not sure what was going on, but it seems like audio is here now?
Very tempted by hyperion max, but it is so ugly lol cannot believe i even consider buying it 😅😅😅 - brooks its 2023 ... maybe time to update design a little bit 😊
With u recommended this shoe for ultra marathons?
Depends on the terrain, mostly
Aggressive roll shoes are horrible. Going downhill in those type of shoes is terrible. I Love DNA Flash but looking forward to a Hyperion Max without the aggressive roll.
The foam Is terrible
Way to much foam
well, it is called, Max
Brooks bought you this shoe which basically means they are paying you.
Hyperion Tempo lasted me 350 miles by using it even third day. I am 215 pounds and by the end of their life, they just flattened out.
thanks for the long term update!
@@kofuzi With some rubber on the bottom, like they have now, I bet I would get 400 miles. At my weight, every third day is perfect for longevity.
If it's as good as the tempo but more comfortable I'm in 👏
It’s a good shoe