Top Reasons to Avoid Buying a Harley Davidson in 2024
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1:43 is a Chevy V8. It's a reliable engine that easy to work on, easy to get parts for, and due to the power to weight ratio of a Boss Hoss (that's NOT a Harley), the engine's life is actually expanded due to the light demand this bike places on it.
"They are extremely low maintenance because so many people own and ride Harley-Davidson's"? That is the stupidest statement I've ever heard in my life.
I've owned 3 Harleys, & still currently have one, most troublesome bikes I've ever had...my 2 Hondas never let me down...once you fix one thing on a Harley, something else will break shortly afterwards...this is my last one I'll ever own...I'm done with them...
they sound and look good though...(-triumph owner)
That they do, but I'd rather ride an ugly bike that goes down the road consistently than have to nurse maid a beautiful bike that breaks when you ride it...
@@Road_Rash i can agree with that; honda, Suzuki,, Kawaski- all of these japanese bikes have outstanding quality control they may not look and sound as good as the harley but they start and don't leak, shake, rattle and roll
Exactly why I prefer metric bikes...
@@Road_Rash Virtue signaling much?
Tongue in cheek.. this is hilarious đ€Ł. Especially the part about great customer service đ€Ł
is the customer service really bad?
Enjoy the ride whatever your preference is !
Hint: this is a 7 minute Harley commercial.
Indeed.
Don't ever buy a Harley I made that mistake used Harleys are practically worthless I paid 17000 for mine put another 3500 in it rode it for 21000 miles kept it in showroom condition and the dealer that I bought it from offered me 5ooo for it it was 10 years old but that's crazy since everyone told me you never lose money on a Harley I wish I would have kept my Honda
Im going to assume this is a joke
I own a 2009 soft tail custom. It has 110000 miles on it and no issues! Been all over the U.S. on it too.
It's to old now dealers won't work on the older bikes
@@tomfisher47 Since you CAN'T spell, NOR punctuate a sentence correctly, I'm going to write this comment off as coming from, TOO much of a m0r0n.
@@tomfisher47 what the hell are you talking about Harley Davidson dealers will work on anything including non Harley Davidson bikes an 09 Harley isnât really even considered a old Harley yet đ
I've owned a couple Harleys. One bike, I did a lot of upgrades. Ended up having problems. The second, I left it stock. Never had any problems with that one. It seems to me that leaving the bike stock is a better decision.
U should try honda..i own a honda since 2000, until until now its still running smooth..lot of modification and convertion i do, and the engine still like the 1st day i buy it
Still Ride my S&S 124 Twin-Cam on a '16FXDLS!! Let me give you a đ scale example, I got it in brand new in 2016 rode stock 5 years on the 6th year after 76,969 miles I've gutted the company OEM engine and transition(DARKHORSE Man-O-War, Hayden, BarnettClutch)and suspension(Legends, Fox) and electronic wiring ( ThunderMaxx, HPi) and put a spice of life into a ChopPAHH more powWAHh baby!!! Got it done by a PROFESSIONAL, because keeping Choppers Sketchy will cost yah đ get ya shit professionally tuned!!
P.s. the last statement wasn't toward You(thr account I'm replying to.âźïž)
@@sembilang8278 Honda makes a better bike. But its not a Harley. Some people just want a Harley - even though they come de-tuned so you have to pay Harley even more for a stage 2 kit to get the bikes performance to where it should have been from the factory. But all the extra money they charge their customers for their bikes and the upgrades has allowed them to build a huge network of dealerships, so that you can go on a long road trip and if you break down, you are always near a dealership that can service your bike, which is great! I know what youre thinking, Why would your bike break down? That idea never occurs to you because you ride a Honda.
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That's the advice I've been given. Don't upgrade electrical, engine, and exhaust. Brakes, comfort, and astetics is fine.
I brought a harley to encourage me to learn to work on bikes, I am becoming an expert the way this thing breaks down. Also enjoy looking tough on it while I don't wear a helmet or wave at the communists on fake bikes. Even though their bikes look better, perform better, are more reliable & cost less, mine is a harley
My God I actually used to feel the same way! But thank God, I finally decided to get an Import. It led to another and another and another and yet still another.. I love them!
My only problem is that I can't decide which bike to ride some days..
My bike was designed in California, the parts came from Japan but the bike was assembled in the U.S. Incredibly reliable. Thatâs more than a Harley rider can say.
More ppl complain about harley riders than harley riders complain about others i swear. I drive a Royal Enfield and they always wave
It's just a ad for h-d,I laughed so hard when they say the engine is reliable, then lost it when they talk about customer service,it's insulting to hear anything so far from the truth,after owning 6 Harley-Davidson's I'm tired of the stealership trying to rape me Everytime I walk through their doors,Iive learned the hard way($$$) that you pay a premium for substandered engineering, their upgrades are a total joke, everyone who owns a Harley knows almost ALL of the afteratket parts are engineered better, built better,and last longer than original parts,sad truth, Harley's are for people with more money than brains,with piss-poor engineering,and dishonest employees at their "stealerships" are like casino's designed to take as much cash from you as possable,Harley Davidson product's are the weakest,worst engineered,overpriced motorcycles on the market today,and they continue to under perform,they do push the" lifestyle" because that's the only thing to keep you paying out the nose for a very poorly made motorcycle.
ha!
âImpeccable customer serviceâ đđđ
Love my Harleys. Most Dealerships SUCK.
If u want a bike that is reliable dependable good power without doing thousands of dollars in upgrades to run strong DO NOT BUY A HARLEY..
Buy a Hinckley era Triumph triple. A real sweet spot. This video cracks me up. An advertising agency produced video, right? They spread it on pretty thick.
Why?
@@freyatilly Why what ?
Greatest thing Harley-Davidson has ever done besides the original "silent grey fellow" was hire Eric Buell lmao..
@@freyatilly 11 sec flat at 128 mph along with good road handling. And in my case with a bit of Matt Capri magic baked in. And triples combine a broad power curves plus a lot of power per cc. And it doesnât immediately go into dank nooner mode when you twist the throttle.
I cant afford a H-D.They are a rich mans toy now.
Buy a Harley Davidson!
I did. Did NOT regret it.
Buy 2 of them.
Just one comment. When you are talking about harleys why is your film have triumphs and most notably a boss hoss?
I started riding a Suzuki in 2002 as a backup bike to keep commuting throughout the season because shops were booked for 3 weeks before ignition problems could be addressed. Finally signed off hd for good in 2012 after riding
hd for 38 years.
The Suzukis and the 2 Africa twins have never seen a dealer since new.
Tires and oil
Suzuki Intruder Volusia (VL800 / C800 / Boulevard C50) rider here - I have had the same experience with my 2009 model (bought brand new), which was running smoothly & only with regular maintenance (oil / tires / coolant changes) up until 2020 (some 70k km), when I had to sell it (unfortunately). This year, I searched for a new bike to ride, and in the end, I chose the same brand & type, just an older, 2003 model - and to my surprise, it works exactly the same, perfect way. Yes, it is one hp weaker, yes, it is carburetor-operated - but screw it, it fits me perfectly and has zero issues (with some 40k km on it).
Considering the prices of these vs any HDs or Indians.. Sorry, Suzuki's win is a no contest one to me.
My 03 Dyna Super Glide needs to replace the alternator every 3 years what's up with that
Great satire! Lol one of the best comedy skits Iâve heard in a long time
If you donât have a problem with burning your nuts & getting oil all over your boots & pants ⊠get a Harley
That isn't even a real thing. Just a made up rumour. Clearly you haven't ridden the Harley Evolution or Revolution.
1-Weight has little to do with stability. 2-Harleys are not 'easy' to maintain. 3-Harley customer service is among the worst in the industry.
Heavier motorbikes "provide greater stability which is especially important on long rides or while navigating twisty roads"...umm oky doky then the heavier the better for handling corners, makes perfect sense.
Q: What's got 2 wheels and an arsehole on its back? A: A Harley Davidson.
I have kicked the shit out of multiple harley owners that get one and immediately think they are a 1%er. Im not, dont claim to be, hell I dont own and never have owned a bike. The ego that comes with a Harley is laughable.
Why are you commenting on bikes and riding them. You have no life experience to speak of, let alone speak about bikes.
Wow a chuck norris wannabe. đ€Ł you're so tuff sitting in your mommas basement you awesome keyboard warrior. Being a legend in your own mind did you use your karate skills on these multiple bikers and kick the bullets away? And when you walked into the biker gathering and kicked all 20 of thise bikers at the same time did they only attack you one at a time? Here's the thing I have known real badasses as a US Marine. The one thing they don't do is let their alligator mouth out run their canary ass.
You two dipshits are proving my point.
He's not wrong.. 88% of Harley-Davidson owner/fanboys never taken any formal courses apart from the BS MSF course which misses out completely on lean angle, body position, frontbrake control, trail braking, counter steering, etc... The remaining 12% probably own foreign bikes as well or formally rode foreign manufacturers, either way the vast majority of Harley riders lack the knowledge of riding or humility as a person to know they are slow mentally and literally.
Damn!! Everything he said is true. If only this video would have came out 6 year's ago before I got my 98 Road King. Maybe I wouldn't be so happy with it đđ
NOT everything he said was true. The Chevy V8 featured at 1:43 is well known for its reliability.
You have an evolution powered motorcycle the mechanical issues that played the twin cam and the Milwaukee 8 are not present in an Evolution motor.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 the twin cam is great !
I listen this video one year back but I still buy Heritage classic 2022 reef blue itâs absolutely classic beauty. Iâm in India harley left in 2020, but i still buy. Not sure if i have long plans to keep it but itâs beast and beauty đ
Reliable my ass! In 20k miles my 03' XL1200 blew 4th gear,and I am gentle on my clutch, the ignition module crapped the bed, and the pressure plate let go, rolling away from a stop sign. I now ride an 02' FXSTDI Timken bottom with the Delphi injection. 8400 miles. It will require a high output oil pump to help cooling the engine. 88twins hate the heat. Might as well upgrade to S&S tensioner kit and a oil cooler. Then my Deuce might be worthy for 20k miles, then the tensioners will require another inspection. If you want Reliable, buy a Honda. My buddy rode 80k miles on a Valkerie on just rubber and oil changes. No Harley is capable of running 80k without any problems. Newer Harleys are fly by wire. Without a Harley scan tool, we are screwed to DIY repair! My Deuce is much bigger, sitting next to a new soft tail. The Deuce frame is 2cm bigger than a standard soft tail frame in 2002. Back the right to repair bill, or one day soon, we will be forced to bring our automotive vehicles back to the stealership for repairs. Harleys new bike warranty has so many disqualified loop holes, it's worthless.
Seriously, you don't see Harleys outrunning police cars .
Cutting edge engine? You must have never seen any other motorcycle engine. Yes, they are fairly dependable and you better hope they stay that way due to the cost of dealer maintenance. I have my last Harley now. $135.00 to change a tire? Right. The dealer doesn't make money off of new bikes, it's the repair shop that make Harley dealerships profitable. Lots of other brands that are "better".
How much does a car dealer charge per hour?
B/S. Everyone of your fixes cost a BUNDLE. A lot of the Harley owners I know regret their purchase.
But mostly, it is the ridiciouls amount you have to pay for a Harley.
I bought one, love it. But thereâs still a myth going around that they are all American bikes. They arenât, the bike is a collection of parts from around the world. They are mostly assembled here.
About 60 percent American as far as I know
I have a Harley also đ€
You bought a Hardly then, LOL!
@@dontworrybehappy8080 ahhh yeah I know that.
@@jimscarnivorekitchen4731 Just messing with you friend. I have one too.
I have a garage full of these beasts. There are a lot of reasons not to buy one and there is at least as many reasons we should buy one. I chose the half full cup and I donât regret that⊠âŠever.
The Harley Davidson shop here doesn't service any bikes over ten years old. Then I hope you know enough about YOUR bike that you can fix it yourself. You can still get parts but they won't install them. Thank God I I have that kind of experience.
Whoever wrote this has 100% never ridden a motorcycle.
I don't like Harley's but it's about enjoying the ride with what you enjoy riding. Here's to many miles!
I got an 09 Harley Fayboy Anniversary as my first bike and I absolutely love it.
Terrible service, bad ergonomics, constant problems with oil leaks. yesterday's technology tomorrow's prices. Harleys are like dinosaurs. Just take a look at them parking next to a BMW or A Honda. Not to mention they ride like tractors.
Are you guys a Harley-Davidson advocate gold wings are a much better dependable reliable motorcycle people I've rode with with them some of them have really high mileage one of them 300,000 miles and never had a problem with them
Gold wings arenât Harleys, and never will beâŠever!
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@@breakoutpete210 damn right they wont be and that's a good thing honda just do what they do best, they keep going.đ
@@FgxguyâŠas do Harley-Davidsonsâïžđ
@@breakoutpete210 harleys are great bikes i own 1 myself im not bashing them, just alittle banter đ
@@Fgxguy⊠just having some fun myself, take good care, and ride swift but safe friendâŠ
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I love my 2 Harleys, but I've owned tons of other streetbikes and liked most of them
Somehow this video feels like a sarcastic spoof meant to razz on Harley Davidson.
The narrator lost me when he said you could "drive" around your Harley Davidson.....geeeesh. I've been riding for over 30yrs and I've never driven a motorcycle
Yeah, it made me cringed also⊠narrator isnât a bike fan if he doesnât know the difference between driving and riding đ€·đ»ââïž
You're completely right! They always have parts in stock. I recently had a left turn signal button quit working and they were able to order it for me and take my payment the day I asked for it! It has since been 9 months and I still have no left turn signal.
Its all fun and games until you install a stage1 and hear it come alive for the first time. And then starts thinking of other upgrades all day & all night. Thats all you'll think for the rest of your life. So yeah dont buy a harley.
hahahahaha
25 years and 14 Harley's later, I bought a Kawasaki. I can't deal with the Motor Co. anymore.
Good for you đ„±
I have a new Harley and I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with it. Outrageously priced and when I wanted to get rid of it after 200 miles and one month I would have to loose $6000.00. So when I hear how they keep their value. THAT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT
My first Harley Davidson was a 2007 Sportster, (I gave it to my 28 year old son) My second Harley Davidson was a 2011 Road King. Its what I still ride............I pray when I retire Im still riding it, Im 57 now. Im sure "Charlene" (my Road King) will still be here. She will be in my will to my son for sure.
If you need to sell your bike the dealers won't give you shit for them. Happened to me...
Bought a brand new 1999 Heritage Softail Classic Evo engine $18,000, got bored with it. Wanted to trade it in in pristine condition for a new XL1200c 2002 model. The dealer I bought the Heritage from suggested an even trade. Ha, took it to another dealer, sold it out right for $16,750. bought the XL1200c new from a third dealer. The original dealer asked me one day what happened that I would do such a thing? I told him if you want customer loyalty you have to show some!
Well I was buying One about every other year until the last two I got which was a Electra glide classic and then a CVO limited .What got me so aggravated was when I got home and looked at the doc fees and the up charges of what I paid in fees I decided my Harley Davison days were over. You canât really blame the motor company as much as I blame the greed of the local dealer so next time I guess Iâm going to get me a Indian pursuit .
I appreciate Harleys but Indians and Japanese cruisers are just better in every way.
@@electroevolution5777 I totally agree.
I literally went to test ride a Road Glide Special last night, the dealer ran some numbers for me and with the trade in value if my BMW r1250gs ($14k) the payment for a 5yr loan was $900!! I qualified with top tier credit too. The dealer basically told me if O wasnât looking to spend that kind of money I shouldnât have been there in the first place, lol!
@@leftymike8730 I went and run the numbers and I donât know how in the world they come up with such a large payment.
@@Johnr37us 3 main reasons are, firstly they are marking the bikes up roughly $5k over MSRP, so the price out the door is mid to upper 30âs. Secondly, the term of the loan was 3 years, not the usual 5-7 most people are doing. I also did not own the BMW outright, so the overall down payment was $6-7k. Sorry I did not mention those things initially. Either way, paying $36k for a motorcycle that I am probably going to dump another $5-10k on in parts is a bit too rich for my blood. Maybe another dealer can offer me a better deal but this one left a bitter taste in my mouth
1:43 is a Chevy V8. It's a reliable engine that easy to work on, easy to get parts for, and due to the power to weight ratio of a Boss Hoss (that's NOT a Harley), the engine's life is actually expanded due to the light demand this bike places on it.
I disagree with your comment saying that you get a lot for your money... That's simply not true. I have a '21 KTM Superduke R which I paid, new, $21K CAD... (And had a '12 FLHTK for a while). I'm currently shopping for a '22 Fat Boy, which cost $4K more... but my KTM has bluetooth, cruise control, 6 axis IMU and so much more. And as much as I want my next bike to be a Harley, it troubles me to see how much I'm getting less technology for that price... I mean, even an Indian Chief now has a LCD screen with nav and bluetooth... But hey, it's still a lot of fun to ride a Harley!
Why donât you get a computerized love doll and ride it?
â@@1941392 See... You confirmed my point. That kind of doll would cost what? 5k, 10k... full of tech, always in the mood... And there's my wife. Love her to death but she cost me a lot more and never in the mood :D
Why You Should NEVER Watch a video with a tile like, "Why You Should NEVER Buy A Harley Davidson!!"
I have owned many brands of motorcycles! Itâs true about parts availability for Harleys, as well as mechanics. There are after market parts for some of the oldest Harleyâs too! Many parts are interchangeable from decades of manufacturing. I currently own 2⊠I donât ride in groups muchâŠbut every chance I get in on mine!!!
Harley is not so fond on working on they're own bikes,if its 10years old even with low mileage they won't touch it
a wise biker once said
"don't buy a Harley unless you have the money to work on it'
Still own a 1983 FXWG. Bought thru Military Sales when attached to the airwing on USS Midway. Like my Shovelhead and 4 speed.
if i don't buy a harley, how i am i going to cosplay as a tough guy on the weekend?
this sounds like a promotional video to buy a harley,i worked for harley and built many show winning bikes and fact is harley finally had reliability with the introduction of the twin cam 88,i loved my shovelhead and my evo but you had to wrench it to ride it almost all the time but it looked great all the time.
I am new to motorcycles. Got my 1st motorcycle this year. After reading experienced rider's comments i am glad i purchased a Kawasaki. Zero issues, just fun. HD isn't 4 me. I like keeping my $$$ in my pocket.
I have had my Harley Davidson going on 14 years And still going strong.
I just bought a Harley Davidson Street Glide St 117 in December 2023. Despite me only riding in rain about twice, detailing the bike twice and keeping it garaged, it is already covered in rust. I want Harley to take the bike back. All riders in the Uk are being ripped off selling bikes that are not fit for purpose. The is serious corrosion throughout the bike after only 1000 miles. I have a 1993 xv750 and a 2003 cbr 6oof and both these bikes have hardly any rust , same owner, same cleaning , different company. DONT BUY A HARLEY!
Luv how so many of the bike shown r not Harleysđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Exactly what I was thinking
When I call my Harley dealership parts department, straight to voicemail everytime.
Not me, they answer every time.
try another dealer or go to an independent harley shop !
My Honda Valkyrie broke down on me with a clutch issue, I can see why Honda is losing many of their customers! it only had 247,000kms on it, practically new still.
this video was obviously put together by someone with very little motorcycle experience.... Harley's are more maintenance intensive than all other brands except maybe Ducati.... Harley's of late have been plagued by reliability problems. Harleys are great for going on straight roads but on curvy roads they tend to drag parts pretty quick... finally... harley service is very expensive.
I couldnât afford both the Harley and the pickup to follow me around to fix oil spills, etc.! I went with GoldWing! Absolute ROCK SOLID performance!
Meh, I went with Indian. Much more low maintenance and and dependable than harley. Best looking bike in my county also. More power than 98% of all Harleys also.
I know. Some would argue about the costs of buying an Indian. Well, about 1/3 less than that of a harley for the same performance and better reliability.
Yes. I don't fall for a harley shill since I did some research into it. I went with america's first motorcycle company, Indian.
I have a 93 Harley Heritage with Evo Big Twin engine. Had a couple of older Evo Sportsters and they are good, reliable bikes. I had a 2001 Harley Heritage that had the cam chain tensioners removed and replaced with a S&S gear drive setup and it was great too. Had a 98 Honda Blackbird and it was a reliable rocket. Should have kept it.
1100 Blackbirds were so cool!
Evo is a good engine
The Evo has the ball bearing crank and geared timing, making it durable, and low maintenance. The the camshaft bearings should be upgraded from stock to Timkin. It's the only Harley that I want in a bagger version.
@@lawrencenortje2771 My 93 has a different cam and Jimâs Hydrosolids. I have been aiming to check the cam bearing hoping itâs been changed from the INA to Timken since they went that far. Going to do it when it cools down some more here in N Florida.
I had '93 ultra. , was a beauty but spent to much time in the shop.
If they would just offer shaft drive!! One thing I have always noticed, when a group of Harlys is out for a ride, they usually start at one service center and end at another.
After long time ownership of multiple HD's, I kinda lost interest after some design element changes... not that there was no room for improvement. They are not perfect, but they are very good and premium bikes. I just felt HD made too many of the models that appealed to me look clownish and awkward. Mainly the whole fat rear tire phase that the early 2000,s "bike builder" craze inspired. HD ruined the Fat Boy with that rear tire/fender change... the bike, in my opinion was no longer proper and balanced with that huge fender width and tire. It ruined the near perfect balance of the Fat Boy in both looks and particularity in how it handled, Also, I saw no point in going beyond 88 CID on the Soft-Tail line... to me, from around 2009, HD no longer set the standard. Instead they began to follow trends and lost their way. I just added two bikes to my garage this summer... a new 650 Interceptor from Royal Enfield and a new Classic 350 from RE... these bikes take me back to all the things I used to find great about HD. Fortunately HD continued to make what I consider their best offering in the 883 Sportster with that beautiful peanut tank and bare bones, raw goodness... now HD has abandon the 883 at a time I think it needs it in their line the most. The 650 Interceptor will now take it's place in modern offerings as "that bike". HD fumbled the ball big with the end of the 883.
I agree with 1/2 of Your Opinions. Whatever happens going forward, It's still a Harley Davidson. Nuf-Said....
Interceptor is really a great bike.
Harleyâs are great bikes. Are they the best? Depends on what you want out of a bike. In my eyes, my 08 night train has no equal in looks from any other manufacturer, period. I have 50k miles on it with zero issues. Change the oils and thatâs it!
On trips I've seen more broken down Harley's than other brands combined. My KZ650 in-line 4 went almost 100K before needing a scheduled overhaul. I guess that's the price of sport riding. Rode with a group of young kids (Honda 350 twin) all day to see the Mekong, and there were no break downs, and no parts truck, or trailers following us. My experience is metric bikes (non Chinese-ium brands) are fun to ride, agile, reliable, and riders are friendly.
157,000 miles , then I traded it in for a New one. Awesome Bike
Sad to say MOST the people in the assembly shots no longer work here.
Lol I'm 5'4 163 lbs I ride it like it's a sport bike I do the police rodeos every few years I love my harley my dad has rode harleys since the late 50s
I built my own...S&S engine. aftermarket transmission with electric start a stretched aftermarket frame. aftermarket chrome everything..had it for a few years then traded it for a mustang....some day I will get a motorcycle license..I do still have a bike that I'm gonna customize..its not a harley..but it was the only bike my late father purchased new from the store...and I managed to get it...
I hv an FXFB...SIMPLY LOVE IT
I ride a Harley, and I have owned 3. I would have to say this "ad" must have been done a long time ago. One example, are parts really available?
My local dealer has been backed up for months with service because they can't get parts, and they can not tell you if or when the part you need will be available.
The video showed a Boss Hoss in.... not a Harley. Lol
harley might be low maintanance if you got one whiche they actualy had a working quality control on. but i drove a new pan america where the engin on a very slow test drive in town where i had to stop on red light gave a horrible noise (metal on metal for sure) and the oil warning lamp and the motor stopped. i could restart it again but that issue i had on the next stop light where i had to stop. drove slowly with low rpmÂŽs. so ... and that was a new bike.
Unashamedly HD infomercial LOL! There's LOTS of reasons why many people prefer other brands and styles. Also HD has lost its way with pricing. Need a mortgage to buy one.
Definitely buy a Harley-Davidson....just don't spend a lot of money for one.
One of the best comments here.
That was pretty damn good, thanks
WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING A IMAGE... QUOTE WILLY G DAVIDSON ,When he was owner of Harley Davidson.. I want a precision built reliable motorcycle .... Common to Honda Gold Wings with over a quarter million miles engine never taken apart or rebuilt... With only Routine maintenance like oil change and tires...
I never laughed so hard in my life......đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
You buy what you want. I will buy what I want
Ride, or drive, whatever you like. Just maintain it, enjoy whatever u have, and ride safe.
This is nonsense . you either work for Harley or are just know nothing about them Harleys are more expensive up front bye at least double . They're more expensive to maintain. They're track record for reliability is spotty at best . The Milwaukee had major issues the twincam had issues that would destroy the motor not to mention the cheap bearings they switched to and don't even get me started on anything before 1984 you had to be a mechanic to own one of those bikes . The Evo is the only reliable bikes they ever made to this day I'd still only buy an Evo . As reliable as they are most metric cruisers will out last them . If new it cost more to change parts because if it's not licensed by Harley and three times the price it voids the warranty witch they have had law suits about . If it's older most dealers don't want to touch it so forget getting work done at a dealership . Anybody that goes on Craigslist can tell they don't hold their value like they used to. I like Harleys as much as the next guy but to pretend they are some how better than other bikes out there is just straight BS and don't think anything you said was accurate . Buy what you want but know what your getting in to .
I've been researching the sportster s and decided to go to the dealership to physically look at it. The person that approached me had such a fake attitude.... The only thing they said about the bike "yeah this is nice". like they gave two shits on whether or not they got a sale. couldn't tell me the price off the top of their head and didn't mention any specs. after 4 minutes of just standing there I was asked how my credit was and that it was ok If i needed to go home and speak to the wife about this purchase..... HD rise and demise will always be their customer base and their dealerships. I feel like i would of enjoyed the sportster s but when you have these d*cks gatekeeping, It'll never get better. Their reliability is a big CON for me but still played with the idea of trying it out but na screw that.
Before you buy, go to a Ducati dealer and ride a scrambler with factory race package . Most fun of 26 bikes owned to include 6 Harleys ,a Honda 400 F ,BMW R 90 AND R 60 , . RIDE DUCATI !
Most who do not like Harleys are those who can not afford a new one and only could get older ones that have been through a LIFETIME of beating. I know this because that is me... after 60 years of saving I refuse ti finance... I will have a new 2023 Soft tail Standard this tuesday to break in the right way and maintain her the right way. Also, I will keep my 2018 Kawasaki ZED 900 that I did all the right care for. This will be my 10th motorcycle (3 were H-Ds) and I will not own a car (cage). thank you for this skit.
Most trustworthy engines in the industryđ€š that sounds more like a Honda engine not a Harley engine.
And Chinese knockoffs.
If you wear high vis underwear while you're riding a Harley-Davidson is not for you.
Iâm a younger lad and have been on two wheels ever since I could get a license. My first bike was a VTX1300 Honda and boy was she great. Road her everywhere and as far as I could. She was buttery smooth and worked great. The only problem I came across was sourcing parts from the aftermarket as their were few options. Stuff made her my own and always did the work on my own. After 4 years I sold her but as soon as I could ride again I got another bike. Second bike now is a 2001 Harley dyna that I got for a steal. Definitely a change in feel to say the least but the biggest difference is the amount of aftermarket parts I can source to make it my own. All this to say buy the bike that will make you happy ( used if possible) and build it to your own personal creation.
Thank you for sharing your story and advice on finding the right bike and making it your own. Your passion for riding is truly inspiring.
You are wrong on the company supply network. Handful of times I have had to work on a Harley in Distress, only to find the part is at least a week plus away. The only saving grace is the friendship network built around this brand.
Don't worry, I won't. If I ever lean towards a pricey cruiser-ish thing, it's gotta be a Diavel.
A big reason not to buy a Harley is parts availability. I mean itâs a terrible idea to be able to get parts for a bike built in the 1970âs from the dealership. Why would you want to maintain an old bike. My brother has a 1997 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100 and we canât get a new CDI module for it, itâs obsolete and there is no retrofit for it. But my neighborâs 1978 Harley needed some gaskets to fix an oil leak, as well as brake pads and a clutch cable, and I found all those parts at the dealership. Now he has no excuse to buy a new bike, I was able to fix his for him. So yea, parts being available for old bikes prevents the purchase of new bikes ;)
Vintage bike parts are available. You have to hunt for them. My 84 Electra glide has only vintage parts on it. Keep looking, and never never buy from a dealership.
@@davidbell1619 The Shadow has no aftermarket support and buying a used CDI for it and potentially get a sour one isnât something I canât afford, neither can my brother. Harley on the other hand still offers many parts and gaskets still from the dealership as well as engine pieces being available aftermarket new and vintage used. Again if this was the CDI module on an older Harley I would not feel comfortable buying one without a guarantee on its functionality. Iâm not finding anyone online offering a CDI with a guarantee or warranty, most just say unknown couldnât test.
@@cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547 the honda like there cars are throw away junk the harley holds its value and appreciates in value.
@@andrewslagle1974 I agree that some of Hondaâs bikes are not made to last while others are good quality, but in the end once support for said bike goes away there isnât much you can do. So get new.
Great advice.
The antiquated air cooled tech is the main inherent problem. They run too "hot" kills the lubricant engine oil. I love the Milwaukee 8 engine especially in 135 stage 4. The forked big end on the same journal. Loping firing order with the large capacity. Fantastic feel and grunt delivery. We now have the technology to radically improve this engine. In reliability and performance. The physical length of the motor can be shortened. By incorporating new Koenigsegg free-valve camless head design. Casting or Three "D" printing these new heads and replacement cylinders. With water jackets utilising a large radiator. Like the bespoke aluminium one planned for the new. Buell Supercruiser. The new heads and cylinders can be cast,cnc billet machined or three "d" printed for traditional look and appeal with faux cooling fins. You will need to redesign the cases. For there will be no need for pushrod or camshaft anymore. Come on Harley engineers. You need to step up your game. To prevent the company from eventual decline.
This guy thinks heâs an expert.
3 out of 4 Harleys are still on the road. The 4th one made it home.....
I just bought a Street glide and I still have my two metric sports touring
Tried to purchase a street bob, price was 5000 over msrp not including 2500 in fees. 23,000 for a 15,599 bike? When I declined to be fleeced the price came magically down to 16,500 out the door. Well that just turned me off so much they could have said 10,000 and I still walk shame on stars and stripes HD of Langhorne pa.
You ever notice how the majority of used bikes for sale are harley davidsons by a vast margin? For every 1 used sportbike you will find 100 used harleys. Its almost like people buy a harley just to realize what a pos it is, then try to dump it off on the next moron.
@jvillain9946 So true. I look at the motorcycle section on the Craigslist
page of my city and 90 percent of them are Harleys. If they were so great then nobody would want to let them go- right?
But that isn't the case. Glad I ride a Honda.
I wager, This is most fibs you can fit in to 7minutes and 26seconds?đđ€Ł
Owned one but will never again cause first time sold my ass to Harley will own a victory v92 but newer one are easier to fix but older ones not as easy