You’d Be Surprised How Bad of a Person You Are - Thought Experiments That Change the Way You Think
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In this video, we explore three philosophical problems related to the concepts of fairness, justice, and morality. More specifically, we consider the illusive and perhaps impossible nature of these ideas.
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I'm an American born in Japan. In Japan, everyone admits that they are evil, but trying to be a good person. When I first went to the states as a college student, I was so surprised that people in the US genuinely thought they were "good people", and were just. It's not good or bad, but it was a big culture shock for me.
That's odd because Christianity teaches that we are severely flawed but can be redeemed through God's salvation.
Japan doesn't even admit their atrocities they committed in ww2 against the Koreans the Indonesians and Vietnamese, the Chinese and other Asian countries
@@bradleyboyer9979 Hint. College.
@@bradleyboyer9979 am i being dumb?
where did he write something about christianity or is it that wide spread in japan?
would be a shock if yes
@Decton I think they meant for how "Christian" America claims to be the people don't appear to reflect its principles so much as politics.
I met a woman in strange clothes while working at a grocery store. She took one look at me and seemed to notice something off when I did my smile at her. She said something like, "You have a lot of sadness in you, don't you?" I don't know why but I felt tears start up. It felt nice to have someone notice, but I was also sad that she did. She made an empathetic sound, gave me a hug, and told me that things were going to be alright. I think about her a lot. I think that good people are like her.
wet dream of depressed people ngl
Hmm not to ruin your moment but i feel like that can be said about anyone. Kind of like a typical future teller con artist. They make the most general assumptions and work their way from there depending on what your answer is.
Almost everyone has some sadness inside of them, some hide it better than others.
If you would tell me all your problems. I would not give you advices or just listen. I would be like “yeah that’s very difficult” (and i don’t even have to mean it) and you would feel seen/heard like never before.
There are none that are good, no not one. Good works are like filthy rags in the eyes of God. We can have our moments but we are not good people. The good news is that we can be forgiven. It can be liberating to know that we are not good and that we need to bow our heads in humility.
@@alceusrydan6237 tbh it's partially true but not entirely, such thing you mentioned would in fact feel good for everyone, however it would have peak effect on depressed people, also less depressed people tend to become some sort of addicted to that feeling and seek attention more and more, however more depressed people who been through much much shit tend to be more like: "tf bro i don't need a pat on my back, i need answers, is there any real way out i can take, or I should rather take the bullet" we don't want validation because ohhh our problems are so bad, we need empathy and hugs, if you're deep enough in the rabbit hole you don't give a single fuck, what is 1 minute of feeling quite ok compared to about 60 years of suffering ahead of you, it's literally nothing, not to invalidate other's problems but there is a fine linę between everyday struggles, feeling down sometimes and suffering constantly 24/7 with perspective or either killing ourselves, or having to endure it for a lifetime, that's why generally happy people want empathy, they don't need any help, they need attention and that's completely fine, everyone needs it but there's a misconception that it's about being sad depressed etc (my joke in previous comment is perfect example of that), but its not, its about attention, desire to feel cared about, to get empathy of others. The whole sadness / depression is just a sort of manipulative way of achieving it. That by itself is mostly okay, but mixing them is actually more hurtful than you could Imagine. People get attention via manipulating by playing sad etc, other people get fed up by it. But who on fact suffers the most? Of course people with actual depression etc, they take a lot longer to open up, then get mixed up with those seeking attention and get ignored (in fact you can even get bullied for that) so they make sure to never open up again. And watch those seeking attention and faking things succeed because it isn't always like the stereotypes, but people faking it behave exactly like stereotypes and seem like actually in need. And as I said once you're deep enough you don't even feel need to open up. That's why some people try to kill themselves a lot times, and some just do it seemingly out of nowhere.
@@trash9005 i shouldn’t have said anything but if i were in their position i’d feel pretty stupid and worse knowing that the lady was just using a con tactic to make it seem like i was seen/heard. Yeah i shouldn’t have said shit but I’m pretty skeptical so i always find meanings behind things when there isn’t any. Who knows maybe the lady genuinely recognizes their deep sadness.
Also yeah man i get what you’re saying. It comes to a point where very depressed people don’t care about or try to get attention because they’ll feel like a burden, feel like to others they are only doing it for attention, advices are very shit like “things will get better”. Even therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists don’t know what they’re doing. They’re only doing it for the money of course and they employ tactics like the thing i said “that sounds very difficult” “it’s hard what you’re going through i can’t imagine” as a way to seem like they give a shit about you but they don’t lol. The only ones that do give a shit are your very very close friends or best friends if you (general you) have any. And you still wouldn’t go to them because you would be dumping all your shit on them and making them panic and feel worse ruining their day, week, etc. And them not knowing what to say or do but at least they care i guess
I’m gonna say this “It doesn’t get better. You just learn ways to deal with it until you can’t.”
I feel like especially in western culture, we're taught from a young age that there's always a good guy and a bad guy in situations through stories like fairy tales and tv shows, the villain versus the hero. You're either good or bad, no in between.
I found that in reality, though, there are LOTS of situations with only victims, fights where both people are in the wrong, or where the situation is just so complicated that it's just impossible to tell, where everyone just tries to do what they think is best.
I think a cult is an easy example of this. Almost everyone except the very top is usually just someone manipulated into manipulating others.
Very true... and sometimes when one tries to do what they think is best, their actions is misperceived by others, creating more and more wounds. Good intentions do not always result in good outcomes.
Video spends 20 minutes explaining myriad of problems that are all solved by Determinism, and doesn't mention it once.
Any comment section in a nutshell basically
@@cstanley3868 They often pave the road to Hell. Funny how we as a species are still trying to figure all this out when the questions are at least as old as written language. 6000 years and essentially no progress, really highlights how little difference our technological and scientific advancements mean in the big picture, just apes with added microchips.
No human is "good." Human "morality" can shift on a whim depending on the situation. We are survivalist by nature.
That's only true for the conformists and the selfish individuals. Which, admittedly, is a pretty sizeable chunk of humanity.
That's kind of the point. True morality doesn't belong to humanity in the first place.
Survivalism is something to be overcome, not something to just accept as " human nature".
No-one is fully good or evil. Seemingly evil people do kind things, & seemingly kind people do cruel things. There is no-one on this planet that hasn't caused harm & suffering to others. There's also no-one on this planet that hasn't touched someone else's heart in some way.
It's almost like we're complicated & can't be reduced down to such black & white thinking.
@@socialmoon Seemingly, and being evil are two different things.
Depends on how cruel it is. Minor cruelties wouldn't make one evil.
And that's fine. I don't mind harming people that deserve to be harmed. Justice demands that much, and is a white action.
Touching someone's heart doesn't make you not evil. Evil is something firmly rooted in the heart. Even evil has loved ones, but that doesn't make them, not evil.
Being complicated or not, one is defined by their moral spectrum. Being less black than another it's still black morality. Being less white than another, it's still white in the moral spectrum.
@@socialmoon I know I have touched the darkest part of many peoples hearts rofl .
I know I’m not a “good” person. I behave like one, but I’m well aware of my dark side. If I were judged by my thoughts and not my actions, I’d be friendless at best, and probably in an insane asylum. I just don’t act on the thoughts and emotions, and I’m careful not to share these dark thoughts with everyone. And so, I’ve managed to avoid any judgement of what’s going on in my mind. If only people knew how dark it was in there.
Me too my friend. Me too.
My piece of advice: don’t dwell on them. Everyone has impulsive thoughts, they’re just our brain latching onto a future possibility, it’s what it’s designed to do. Good thing we have a locus of control to direct our thoughts to more useful areas. Our brain is designed to listen to the executive function, so it’ll trim those pathways off over time.
You’re not special pal. Your human like the rest of us. Your not as unique as you think.
My thoughts aren't mine nor are they me. They just visit me and tempt me like no other
Everyone's dark. The thing to focus on is how you have agency in how you deal with the darkness. Don't castigate yourself for realising how flawed we all are.
This is why I almost never hold grudges, or long period hatred. I feel very lucky to came to this realization really early in life, that every person's actions has an extensive, complicated background behind it that i nor said person will fully know, understand, or have a say in. With this I stopped seeing people as bad, or good, just simply human. I stopped hating people who did things that I viewed as wrong, and stopped excusing people who i knew their "reason" behind what they did. All thats left were people, actions, and consequences. I started forgiving people, yet at the same time holding them accountable, and this has been especially important because I implement the same way of thinking to myself.
Beautiful.
Now pass on your enlightenment to others
What about people who's reason behind what they did was money, or power? I think bad people do exist... i've seen so much of them... And i don't mean some bullys or girl that rejected me or some cringy ass things like that.. I mean... Really fucked up people that are happy that other people suffer. People that... don't have any remorse for killing other people, they even are happy and boastful that they don't have any remorse. This is fucked up. Like... to the maximum.
@@MrCake-ic6hn In my opinion they’re not an exception to my main comment. I do believe even the worst of people has a forever unknown story to who they are and thus what they do. Thought it does not at all excuses their actions.
I think we should forgive people, but I think a certain line must be drawn when they repeat their wrong actions multiple times.
This is like a much more fleshed out and sophisticated version of an argument ive been making for decades now. No one ever agrees with me, and most people get extremely emotional and accuse me of all sorts of nonsense. Great video.
You should show them this video
@@jordendarrett1725you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it think.
@@SigFigNewton Do you view yourself as morally superior?
@@epicviolence123 Know you're not asking me, but thought it was an interesting question.
Like, I don't think anyone can be morally superior? Since the whole thing about morality is based off of who you are, so everyone's view of morality is both incorrect, and correct at the same time. Sure you can objectively judge individual's moralities, but how- when your own view is shaped by your own morality?
@@themanysirs1814 I would say, in conjunction with what I took from the video, the universality of the morality in question.
This last quote hits hard. Recently I’ve noticed that I do things with the kindness of my heart and I apologize often. But people tend to leave me or at the very least never apologize for their actions. It would throw me down a rabbit hole that I am not a good person or unworthy but I cant deny that I feel owed an apology when I’m the one looking out. Morality is twisted at times but I think it takes the other person to see it for themselves to know where they stand. If you won’t keep yourself accountable, the universe certainly will
Seems to be a deeper issue. You might have trouble keeping boundaries or something of the sort. People who value and respect you will take accountability and respect your boundaries. Don't let people walk all over you
only help yourself and the people that you care about AND you are sure that care about you. having empathy towards everyone is a weakness that people will tell you is a strength.
Many people are quite selfish that care only about themselves, and some are just super selfish pricks. They assume everyone is selfish like them but they also think some people are weak so that they can take advantage of them. In fact I believe these people like to mistake kindness for weakness. Honest sincere selfless persons like you get abused and neglected for that reason. Don't be hard on yourself, truly you are not a bad person, don't let them take advantage of your kindness and so don't let their cold actions crush your warm heart. But one advice I would give is stop expecting the jerks to be nice, so don't be disappointed that they never show the kindness to you in return. But even more importantly: do not stop being nice yourself, do not make the mistake of thinking you don't have to be kind yourself as if the jerks don't deserve kindness, we all deserve kindness, but note that it's not your responsibility to cater to them. It's just that it's not your fault they are jerks, and you can't do much about the way they are; that's on them. I don't have a lot of time to spare to such people, it's a waste of time when they don't change their ways. Spend your time on kind and selfless people like yourself that actually appreciate it!
Apologies seem so meaningless to me. My live moves on just the same whether you said sorry or not. Coming to a mutual understanding of the situation is far more important than whether or not the person truly believes they're in the wrong and fully regrets it, and especially more important than the mere use of the word "sorry."
I myself have been put into this position many times, where I'm forced to apologise even though I don't actually regret my actions. We can acknowledge that you have been hurt without blaming me.
I have this friend, whom I love dearly, but this always annoys me: he apologises for every little thing he does that might upset me, and he always demands an apology in return, asking me if I regret what I did until he guilttrips me into it. And he does the same with other people, saying he won't talk to so-and-so until they've apologised. Whereas I would much rather just move on and forget about it. Unless it's actually important enough that we need to talk about it, but then it's understanding I crave, not an apology
@@Shashu_the_little_Voidlingyou want to solve your problems. a mere word does no such thing.
“A good man isn't one who is unaware of his darker side, but one who knows his darker side reaches the depths of hell and still chooses to have it under control and stay virtuous.“
A good man is not one who is perfect or without flaws, but rather one who is aware of his own limitations and actively works to overcome them.
This requires a willingness to confront one's own shadow, or the repressed aspects of oneself that are often hidden from conscious awareness.
By doing so, a good man can become a more authentic, compassionate, and virtuous person.
This is very insightful and uplifting 👏🏾. Who is the originator of this line of thought? I'd like to read more of their work
Sounds like Carl Gustav jung.
Finally a good comment. 😆 Great, actually. Something worth reading multiple times, even putting it on paper. Cheers! Is it really Jung's?
Where does that quote come from?
Please I need to know where that quote comes fr om
When I was a child I was “good”. I felt other peoples pain, put others first, went out of my way to help others, wished pain on myself to stop other people from hurting. I never thought of myself as “good” though. Things were very black and white back when I was a kid. Decades later I know I’m broken. I have rage issues and horrible thoughts. Do thoughts makes someone bad? These days I don’t go out of my way to help others like I did as a child. Seeing the world as an adult can jade you.
True. Also horrible past experiences where you've tried or you think you were being good but get insulted or mocked instead.
You should check out "Complex PTSD" by Pete Walker.
I agree with Spas k. What you describe is classic CPTSD. I have it. There are test on the web for it. Try doing the ACE test. Once you figure that out please see a trauma therapist if you can. Talk therapy does not work for CPTSD because of the nature of the condition. Trauma therapists have tools talk therapists don't have that can help you. But the biggest help you can get is you. Always remember to love yourself and all your broken parts. They are part of you. Not greater than you. And remember, it's not your fault. You were born wonderful. This was done to you. It's not your fault. People like us can never hear these words enough.
@@spas.k also “mind hacking happiness” by Sean Webb.
@@justanothermortal1373 this is exactly sadly true
I remember questioning myself these very questions when I was 14-16 yo. I didn't read books, related to the topic, but I had a great interest in psychology and learning about how our environment influence our behavior left me wondering about justice, determinism and blame as a concept. I spent a lot of time, searching for answers, but never found anything useful. This video was a relief of some kind. Thank you.
There's literally a book on this subject. You didn't spend enough time searching then
This is however a very one sided debate...In essence this comes down to free will vs. determinism...I fundamentally disagree with the notion we do not have control over our actions....It is too simplistic to look at the world as a series of causal events...If we take Larry's action as an example the whole argument for determinism is based on the fact that Larry punches someone in the face and the person unfortunately passes away...Despite being short fused and tired Larry could have refrained from punching at all he was certainly tempted towards it but he wasn't forced to do...I would view this as constrained free will which argues that we are pushed in certain directions but we do have some degree of influence within these constraints and an ability to reflect back on our past actions and let them influence our future actions that is where our free will lies....Let's continue with Larry's example...Larry is subsequently judged and condemned as an immoral actor because of the consequences of his actions...This is the utilitarian principle stemming from the enlightenment which states that actions are to be judged on their consequences...However another moral framework exists called deontology which states that an action is right or wrong based on the action and a set of rules and principles rather than its consequences...So in all examples according to deontology every person did something wrong because punching someone in the face is wrong...In reality both these frameworks exist in tandem and are both applied simultaneously by the same person...So everyone did smth wrong but some had less control over their actions than others...Whether you judge smth as moral or immoral is ultimately in the eye of the beholder and different subjective cultural norms shape what we find acceptable and not....However as a thought experiment I wonder if that is true...I think there is a degree of universality amongst moral rules and I wonder if that is inherent in humans or a logical consequence of living together in societies and communities
Morality in a sense is subjective knowledge but just because it is subjective that doesn't mean u can go punching people in the face that is because morality is necessary for a functional society...So it is fun to think about however we cannot get rid of morality in its entirety
This man explains things so well. We’re learning about John Rawls and the veil of ignorance and I wish my professor taught this way
I used to judge, critisize, but now I just accept everything, everyone, as is, as long as it doesn't affect me. I can only control one person, myself.
In most situations, that’s what laws and the judges’ interpretations are for. 🌝
The whole point of this video is to realise that we are all products of our circumstances, how the illusion of self control is just that, an illusion… how would you define your ‘self’?
@@ExtremeAce9 I have made a conscious decision, do not harm any living creature, unnecessarily. I am trying to cleanse/purify my soul.
But tell me where that "conscious" thought came from?
Krokodyl, no, we don't leave it up to law or stupid a $ $ judges. All that is trash. Best to judge for oneself.
I don't think everyone is evil, just easily influenced,I try to maintain nondualistic thoughts.but I love the topic, and I think the justice system definitely needs reform.
Yeah everyone wants to do good and be a driving force of good, but good and evil cannot be so easily defined and our insane ability to reason with ourselves makes this difficult to be absolute of any degree.
Good and evil are just words,and words are the wind.what I believe we are describing is the natural and unnatural, and the lines are blurred from social engineering,peer pressure, and outside influences.controling many of us telling us what to think,who we are,how to respond ,emotional Minipulation. science trying to convince us we are small and insignificant.the easiest way of taking our power is making us think we have none.the list goes on.
No everyone is evil.
@@PrettyBlue653facts they're just not about bad apples but bad barrel makers too
what is evil
You know what, I actually have to thank you for this. Watching this video and the comments, I finally came to defining the true essence of morality.
I don't usually make 3 consecutive comments but I'll make an exception this time. This one is for those who might find it useful.
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Shadow work is not about exposing our shadows and succumbing to it.
Shadow work is to recognize our shadows but realizing it's not our true self.
It's okay to have shadows. It's fine to have bad, evil, or horrendous thoughts.
It's not fine if you identify with it.
You are neither the light shown on yourself nor the shadow it casts.
You are neither society's lighting, its prescription of morality and goodness.
Nor are you the shadow it casts within you that you "repress."
You are the genuine goodness within you free from outside influence and circumstances.
But most of all, you are you. And you are perfect.
Remember that.
I'm no philosopher, but a lot of the things you mentioned in this video I've believed for a really long time. About how everyone's actions are influenced by every prior circumstance in their life and their genetics, and how humans are just like anything else, in a seeming 'delusion' of moral superiority. I really enjoyed watching this, and am glad it was not just me with these thoughts!
Video spends 20 minutes explaining myriad of problems that are all solved by Determinism, and doesn't mention it once.!
@@DeterminismisFreedom That's the beauty of it.
There’s. A group of people called naturalistics and materialists these people at large such as Sam harrris have a defunct world view in which they do think moral superiority is them which is funny.
@@DeterminismisFreedom Do you believe just punishments are actually possible, or should exist?
@@wildfire9280 The question is not if they are possible. The question is that punishments are absolutely useless.
"The central defect of 'the evil' is not the sin but the refusal to acknowledge it"
- M. Scott Peck
“People of the Lie”
The entitled narcissists, which world is full of, don't take criticism well...😉
it is the sin though.
Despite the strong reactions that morality can give rise to, the difference between good and evil isn’t always so easily defined. Or else the world would steadily be a better place
One precondition for your conclusion would be that all, or at least a substantial majority, of the individuals in that world would both be 'better', and willing to choose such that 'better' extended to their fellow humans. I find this a pleasant precondition to ponder but over 6-decades of life experience strongly suggests to me that this is nowhere near the case.
A lot of people falsely create the illusion of a "grey area" just so that they can justify their misdeeds.
What do you mean a “better” place?
The world is already a better place, and it will get better, as we go on.
A century ago, there was racial oppression which was lawfully accepted by society. People were dying of poverty and disease and pandemics. Serial killers were running amok. The number of people dying daily today is vastly lower than what it was a century ago. Its called evolution of society. Of course we always want better. And the situation will get better. We are not a barbaric species anymore. And we will continue striving towards betterment.
So look at the progress we have made.
@@RichardHarlosmaybe better is defined as self pleasure, which makes the statement true, as long as people define pleasure as something good and seek it. Which in my experience, almost everyone does.
What makes a person good or bad is not one's actions but rather what is in their heart.
It's one thing to have flaws. It's another to excuse and/or ignore it.
We may not always have complete control over our neural pathways, but we can choose which direction the river flows each and every moment.
Keep it completely unchecked and you'll find there's a limit to relying on suppression alone.
It's about works. From the fruits you shall know them. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. All that. I'd rather have the most vile and greedy person invent the cure for cancer to make money than have the world suffer a single communist.
Try telling that to a judge
Chance morality:
Don't be in bar fights. Just because you get lucky a few times and no one gets hurt doesn't mean you have a right to bar fights. Eventually, something can and will go wrong. Your choice to participate (driving home drunk) is what's important and not if the outcome is lucky (home safe) or bad (vehicular manslaughter).
Yeah I have to admit I've never felt the need to throw a punch at a complete stranger. I think that reflects poorly on each of the hypothetical assaulters.
Not doing so doesn't make me a 'good person'. I barely think at all about whether I'm a good person.
I think people love to classify and judge themselves and others. No matter what. I don't know if I'm a good person or not. I just attempt to treat others the way I'd like to believe is respectful to them and myself. And when i make a mistake I apologize to everyone involved, including myself. And usually at some point I forgive myself and m o v e o n.
Very well said
The Golden Rule (a.k.a. treat other the way I'd like to be treated) has bitten me more than once. When I see someone who looks sad or is already crying, I keep my distance because when I'm sad, I prefer to be alone to process my feelings. Then I'm criticized for being cold-hearted. And/or deemed to be "strange or weird because I don't want to be hugged or "comforted", and just want to be alone.
But I don't mind being comforted by my dog!
Oh people LOVE to judge OTHERS, but never *themselves*... at this point in time, I wish more people were able to do just that.
@@dddux It's very easy to judge people, especially when I feel tired and drained after being around those people (two, actually, the one who liked to cry and the one who liked to throw tantrums).
Everyone has their pet hates. Mine are high-maintenance people. I think that the darkest him about me is that I don't forgive any person just because they tried to get too close. I want to have a barrier around me and other people. A canyon. An ocean. A world.
@@trishawalsh7832honestly? same. but I still console them because if I’m uncomfortable with sharing when it comes to myself, at least they know that I’m not a cold person and it’s just how I want to deal with myself. I guess this phrase is more toward ppl who think it’s okay to treat others badly and expect themselves to be treated like they’re on a pedestal. it sounds like you need to be kinder to yourself. it’s not your fault
I hadn’t realized how much I’ve integrated these thought experiments into my moral judgments until listening to the scenarios here. I’m a big proponent of Rawls’ theory of justice.
I’m a big proponent of these Bawls on ur chin
I inhale propane gas
@@Yinyankstank I’m guessing they couldn’t fit you into the clown car?
Rawl’s is the veil of ignorance right?
I think what destroys people is comparing themselves to other people.
If you only focus on your own goals, strengths, and unique aspects we all have,
you will appreciate yourself more. Also "success" is not so easily definable.
Some people may have alot of money but no morals and be horrible people.
Some may be poor but have a good heart and help others.
Some are blessed with good health, others suffer from bodily ailments.
So much of life is perspective, its all about being the best you can be and being happy with it.
Success is definitely. measure. It has nothing to do with your morals.
@DominantBtch
This is what the western world values. There is a basis to argue that success is how much money you have. I agree. Again, wisdom and morality does not have a price tag.
I am convinced our lives here are temporary, and out connection to physicality will mean nothing when our souls ascend to g-d and we will give an accounting of our actions In this world. A person could be physically and spiritually well off at the same time, which obviously is the best position to be in.
We can agree to disagree probably but, I am convinced by my experiences in my lifetime that there is nothing that matters except one's connection to g-d and the truth.
I can't agree more with you. That's one thing I was thinking about a lot lately. We want to be happy, we want a good life and as a result we chase money and other things. But if what we really wish is to be happy, then it's all about being good and the truth. It is all in the mindset. We don't need to become rich in order to be happy it's pretty much a decision and, most importantly, a way of life.
And by the way I'm a religious person
Thank you for making this video. This is more or less what I've been thinking for a while, but I'd never heard anyone come out and say it.
I always give thanks for the cards I was dealt. They could always be better, but I am reminded daily, almost hourly, that my situation could be infinitely worse. I drink my glass of water, walk to my next destination, eat my meal, unplug my cell phone, and take a deep breath for the people breathing their last in hunger, pain, and agony, not just in some far off land but possibly down the street in an alley. At a hospital somewhere. The people dealing with much worse than I. Away from any comfort, or worse, in the care of the ones they love with nothing left they can do but to see them off. Be grateful, be kind, if enough people do it for long something will happen.
Right?
Yes I believe something will ❤
That's the issue with this life and the condition of it. No matter how much we are suffering and how bad our lives are we have to always think that our lives can always become infinitely worse and we have to be grateful that they are not; purely for survival and the sake of sanity. It's a paradox of sorts as our suffering is bad but we lessen it in some way as it could be worse. However at any moment it could become infinitely worse and yet we repeat this same process when we get to the next level of 'worse'. We have to constantly think about people who have it worse. An existential horror of sorts.
I am truly mesmerized by the depth of your storytelling, navigating through profound philosophical concepts with such clarity. Your ability to weave intricate ideas into a narrative that is not only digestible but also deeply thought-provoking is genuinely admirable. Your explorations into moral luck, fairness, and moral knowledge offer a remarkable journey through ethical considerations that leave me contemplating long after your words have been spoken. Your insightful analysis are nothing short of inspiring, offering a tapestry of perspectives that challenge and invigorate my own thinking.
can't agree more, nice playing with words there tho 😉
Wow this sounds very artificial but okay
@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 Artificial? Robert used way more advanced terminology than me. 😂 Did you even listen and comprehend what he was saying?
@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 yah agree 😂🗿
Omg, its too hard to understand for a non-native-speaker
This helps with a thought I've been having that every person is inherently selfish.
Some people do good things because it makes them feel good. Others do bad things because it makes them feel good. Both people are trying to achieve the same goal... to feel good.
And this goes in line with everything said in this video about a persons genetics and circumstances.
The problem with ignoring morality, is that we don't always know what is good for us, or what will ultimately make us happy & feel good.
Do you let a child eat nothing but candy? Wouldn't that make them happy (for the moment)? What is the long lasting effect?
Adults are also easily deceived by things that might make us feel good in the moment, but later will bring us misery.
The video mentions conscience, morality, religion, etc. but just dismisses it. However, studies have shown that people who follow these kind of truths tend to be happier & live longer.
We uphold morality because of it is the more beneficial thing in the long run if actions had no consequences most people including myself would do as they'd please
I had the very same thoughts. It's interesting.
Everyone is selfish, not everyone acts on their selfishness...
@@chrismcaulay7805 that's where morality and good vs bad comes in. But it can be quite a disadvantage for a person if they are born with a feeling that they need to hurt others to feel fulfilled vs a person who feels they need to help others to be fulfilled. Which is the point of the video.
People can absolutely recognize that they have certain habits (like getting riled up enough to cause fights) and work on that part of themselves. We are different because we have the intelligence to recognize patterns in our actions and emotions like that. In that situation, where they left that unchecked, yeah, they are to blame.
@@SigFigNewton Wow, is that a moral judgement on a person who might've only made this assessment because they were in a certain state of mind? This might be the only comment section the original poster ever took part in. And you're calling them a monster? You're a monster. /s
Get over yourself with making the exact assessment they did and taking a moral high ground already.
This is a fairly simple video but I’d bet this is the most important perspective you’ll ever share. Thank you for making it.
I see myself as someone who tries to be a good person or strives towards it every day instead of someone who is already good, because if I just go ahead and say I’m “good” i’m sort of in the trap that i’m already there and that I don’t need to put in an effort. At the very least I might say i’m decent and law abiding, but I have to consistently work for higher virtues. It’s a journey, not so much a destination.
Sure I could say I’m “good” in a colloquial sense, but being truly good is a journey you must always be on the path for, way I see it. If someone asks me if I’m a good person my default response is “I try to be” or “I’m closer to it than I was 3/X years ago”
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Same with perfectionism
The mind is like a parent protecting an unassuming child from something horrific, creating lies and telling stories to make sense of the chaos around us no matter how hard we try to perceive it.
Emathy and compassion come from being mindful, and understanding that not one person has experienced the same things as you. It is our experiences that we share that make us who we are, and putting yourself in someone else’s shoes and trying to relate and understand their situation, and being supportive is what I strive to do for the people around me.
I've been watching for a while and honestly you've outdone yourself. You referenced Rawls perfectly, gave light to Nagel (who is really one of the greatest philosophers who ever lived, who I _still_ disagree with on so many fundamental issues), and then brought the is/ought problem to public observation. This is next-level for your work, follow through with it.
I just am. I try to do well, sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I'm not. I've hurt peoples emotions, made them cry, been considerably hurt by other. I've lamented the pain ive caused others and wonder if others lament the pain they cause me. I react, I consider, I love and straddle the gentle line of dislike and hate. I seek to be better, knowing it's what's important. I've been homeless, an addict an alcoholic and have over come all those things. I hust am another human, finding their way through the labyrinthian corridors of the life ive been born into and thrust into figuring out. The more I learn, I learn I know so little in reference to all knowledge out there. It inspires me to be more understanding and recognize the myriad differences and similiarities that lay within each of us. I don't consider myself a nice person, but I do my best to be authenticly kind. I fail sometimes, but that's the point. I don't strive for perfection, I just strive to be more accountable and better.
You put into words and graphics, things that I have felt. I hope that those with whom I share this video will also gain insight into how our paths are determined by things we can control and things we can't necessarily. Great video. New subscriber, today! You've got it right.
I would say that while we don't have 100% control over situations around us, we *can* nudge the probabilities of those situations into something more positive. If Larry hadn't decided to go to the bar to drink, knowing he has a temper problem exaserbated by alcohol, then he wouldn't have gotten into the fight that resulted in his arrest. Small decisions can alter large outcomes.
So we can push it further and ask "Why did he go to the bar?". He didn't choose to like drinking alcohol in social environments. He didn't choose to have a bad judgement and weak restraint. It's all things he was born with or taught by people around him that made him go to the bar that night.
So why are trauma and mental illnesses good excuses, but being born with bad temperament or taught wrong things in life aren't? Because people with mental illnesses generally can't control themselves, but there are people with bad temperament who can restrain themselves from going to a bar or becoming violent? Well, he wasn't able to restrain himself in this circumstance. How do you know it was his choice, and not a genuine inability to restrain himself, just like a mentally ill person?
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Trauma and mental illness are not good excuses to act out in any way and neither is claiming you have poor judgement and restraint. I have poor restraint when it comes to buying things I like and usually spend way too much, but that's entirely my fault. Not some nebulous, cosmic force I have no control over.
@@med2904 This video sure likes to claim trauma and mental illness make excuses, but they don't. 90%+ of mental illnesses do in fact not render you "uncontrollable" and the law agrees quite strongly, as only in 1%~ of trials in history have even attempted an insanity plea, and only 25% of those have actually succeeded on the basis of an insanity plea. This is because any lawyer worth anything at all knows that "Well they just couldn't stop themselves!" is a terrible, near unprovable position, even with a defendant that has documented mental health complications.
That premise of the video is fallacious, that escaping moral consequence through claims of mental illness is actually commonplace at all. Borderline personality disorder does not render you "uncontrollable", if it did, it wouldn't be treatable, which it in fact is.
@@TheHazelnoot that is not the premise of the video, its just an example. Just think of it as the mentally ill woman got less jail time because she is a woman and the justice system favors women when sentencing, which works better as an example because it is actually realistic
Amazing video! What I took from it is how messed up the world is but at the same time helped me understand how to forgive the absurdity of it all
I tell myself I'm a bad person enough as it is, then I see things like this in my feed 💀
same
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective: If you already know this then you're better off than not knowing. You've already improved.
@@redgrengrumbholdt2671 I was mostly making a joke about the title, but I tell myself I'm a bad person because of internalized negativity and childhood trauma. That's the subconscious part of me saying that. Consciously I know it's far more complicated than that, and the talking points of this video are actually concepts I've pondered for years because of that.
Thank you for making this video, because some people need to hear this. The word “good person” is overused in our time and dulling its meaning, because there is no such thing as a good person
I didn't even think of myself
I was just excited of the thought of being able to create the best world I can create
Then you suddenly brought my situation into the mix and I thought
They sociaty I wish wasn't going to descriminate purposfuly anyone anyway, I can't influence what I will be, why should I care?
About moral luck:
I shun everyone the same, (less than most others would I believe) but wish for anyone to be better
My mind gravitates towards how the consequences could better the world the most on a larger scale
Punishement should only be given if it helps. It's important to know that this needs to translate into regulations which work on a larger scale
This will still lead to nonneeded suffering, but should minimise it
I don't claim to be moraly perfect, but trying to is something I value for myself.
i'm not a bad or good person, i'm just a person
That's painful enough in itself. I know, because I've been on as well, since the day I was born. That's what they told me, at least.
"The only good human is a dead human."
I think that's from Planet of the Apes
Love this channel and every single time I start to feel disillusioned with reality and depressed about tragic events, I always come back here and it reminds me of the impermanence of this experience. No matter how awesome or awful it's all temporary.. and not worth the worry.
I love this video. Some things I have already partly figured out through self-reflection but this is the first I have heard of "moral luck". Super interesting stuff!
Thank you I needed this in my life. Thank you!!!
I would never be surprised at how bad of a person I am.
You must be my ex-wife
@@KrustyPantz2142 Nope, I'm my OWN ex-wife!
Me either. If I were judged by my thoughts and not my actions, I’d be friendless at best, and probably in an insane asylum. I just don’t act on the thoughts and emotions, and I’m careful not to share these dark thoughts with everyone. And so, I’ve managed to avoid any judgement of what’s going on in my mind. If only people knew how dark it was in there.
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Have you considered counseling to help rid your mind of the alleged dark thoughts in there? 🌝
But what does it make something "good" or "bad"?Its just opinion.Based on our culture,our society,our surroundings,our survival,e.t.c. .What is good or bad is relative,does it exist without morality?
I did find it interesting that he spent so much of the video talking about how we can’t go from “is” to “ought” regarding morality, but then concluded that we ought to have compassion and forgiveness. (I agree that those are virtues, I just found it ironic)
Life is ironic. Universe is ironic. Human consciousness is ironic.
Always has been.
(Perhaps.. hopes the next phase of evolution fix it or else we will sleep)
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Evolution doesn’t have a specific goal outside of ‘survive so you can pass on genes’, so I doubt it is going to change our consciousness anytime soon.
I think there’s a difference between “reasons that someone could have made this decision” and “excuses to prevent responsibility” and “things beyond people’s control”. Some things are very situational, sure. But I believe that all of humanity is ultimately responsible for being their own moral agents, and this includes being able to get help if they require it. Otherwise, there is no meaning in anything, if there is no responsibility. It is my personal preference that life should have meaning, regardless of suffering or circumstances. I love that quote he put right before the end. I think in the same vein, Mother Teresa’s poem fits as well: “Do good anyway.” No matter the circumstances.
This video is quite timely, considering global events. I appreciate the level of thought put into this. I don't necessarily agree with the first points. But I don't disagree either, and I believe I know what was meant, and agree with the principle in practice. Great video.
Having thoroughly perceived, examined, embraced, and integrated my shadow self I can say without a doubt that I know exactly what kind of person I am.
I can also say that there are no good people or bad people, there are only people and potential.
We are all saints, we are all devils, we all carry the potential to nurture life, we all carry the potential to destroy life.
Only when we have examined the reality of this potential, accepted this potential, and integrated this potential do we have the opportunity to experience to the fullest that which life has to offer.
This is an amazing reflection on many of the thoughts I've had about morality and moral culpability. In fact, I'd like to add something, but at the moment I can't think of any new insights to say that weren't in this video already, apart from this tip: all of the people at the bar fights should be judged and treated based on their conditions and probability of lashing out. In general, the overall compensation for an act should be determined by the probability and potential impact(s) of the consequences.
Nice try. 😆 Meditate, a lot, about what you've said, and: how it would be enforced - who would make the laws and how would it be enforced. When you finally realise how complex the system is, you will appreciate it more as it is.
@@dddux I know it'd be very difficult to implement, but I was just saying what the ideal would be. Maybe the laws around things can be refined a little bit, based on the statistics for the outcomes of all the different instances of something happening
@@SigFigNewton Nah
@@SigFigNewton Is minority report that thing where you specifically find marginalised groups and look for anything to report
@@SigFigNewton Unfortunately for you, I am not quite that silly.
Please provide a detailed scrutiny-durable case on why a brown person walking in your neighbourhood is harmful and what empirical wellbeings have or could have been compromised by the act.
I cannot call myself a bad person, because it isn't true. Nor, can I call myself a better person than other people, because I can't project myself onto their experiences in a way which would solidify that idea. What I can call myself, is a stand up guy who does not let their self be lazy, treat people wrongly based on how they treat them, or denies the obvious wish to do the wrong thing for comfort. This makes me feel like a good person.....Thus....., I am one, and will continue to grow as one. Thoughts can be controlling of personal habit, but it is up to you to control your thoughts and where or what they lead to.
I loved the hotel analogy, it really made sense. Great video!
if there is good in this world, i will find it. if there is not, i will make it
I think what matters most is intent. Of course consequences matter and we should try to prevent bad things from happening but the fact we can never know another person’s inner thoughts means we’re not truly in a position to judge someone else. I guess the big question is “do humans have real agency or are we just a result of nature?”
What if I intend to give you a million dollars, but I never do it, of course. Does that make me a good person?
@@dddux argument on whether giving money is "good" on itself aside, if you are so sure you will never do it then there was no real conscious intent. A lot of people do fall into this lack of self reflection "you aren't alone" "I'll be there for you", proceeds to not follow through in any way whatsoever.
If you genuinely *try* to, say for a more concise example you are a parent trying to see their children through and for that you need money, intent expresses itself into action but cannot control it's consequences. If you are such a parent, and working hard towards but never managed to quite do what you wanted then you still tried your best to do good and in my very subjective view, that aspect of you speaks well of your person.
If you "intend" to see your children through but go every night gambling and lose your earnings and more at some point there needs to be an accountability check, do I really intend to do this or do I just tell myself that I do to feel better about myself despite my actions not aligning with my intent?
Of course there's many problems with this. This is just my personal view. For the sake of the argument and for practical life I like to assume that we humans do have a degree of agency over our actions.
That's what differentiates say the example of the person with BPD to the person with non-pathological aggressive tendencies. (If I am honest, I condone neither), but the accountability someone is held to for me is proportionate to the agency they had over the situation. If you are an adult relatively sound of mind you understand risks and consequences. You understand harm and good. That comes with responsiblity.
Free will type agency is probably an illusion. Agency, in the sense that humans can conceptualize and execute complex actions to effectuate a desired result, is certainly real.
I don't think intent matters at all. If you do every thing good but on the inside, inside your thoughts you think bad things I think you are a good person. If you convenience people you are doing good.
I strongly disagree, as that leaves moral judgement entirely up to luck.@@omerelhassan9133
I always strive to be a good person, and I am well aware that I have flaws. If someone points out a flaw that I have, I won't just brush it off like a narcissist. I will work to improve myself.
Hitting bad people with a reality check and gaslighting good people into redefining "good person" to exclude themselves. This is truly an interesting video.
It's also just an astoundingly poor presentation of the philosophical thought experiments. It does a great job as an anti-advertisement for whatever educational material they are promoting.
From the title alone it seemed weak and lacking in nuance to me.@@YouthRightsRadical
@@evanblake5252 And in that regard, they at least managed to come up with a title that accurately represented the experience they were offering.
@@YouthRightsRadical Suppose so.
‘Everyone is the villain in someone else’s story’
Sad but true
Not true
But stories can be either right or wrong.
"Everyone thinks themselves a good person, until given the chances to be truly Evil, free of consequence."
Been there. Done that. No thank you.
The conclusion smuggles in “oughts” as well, but it is the best path forward both in pursuit of finding a better answer and doing less potential damage in the process.
Envy will never go away. People will always be envious of each other, therefore nothing will ever be fair.
I was like "This is starting to feel very Schopenhauer-y." and then you hit us with that great quote of his. Bravo.
Great minds think alike
This is one of the best videos I've seen on CZcams.
This video perfectly explains why I choose not to hate anyone, even if I heavily disagree or am wronged by someone.
As in many cases the level of understanding I have or others have of outside factors is just too great to apply total blame to any 1 individual even if they are on the whole, guilty of said action.
This is not to say I can't choose to go my separate ways but why should I spend time hating someone when I could instead focus my mental energy on loving those I care for.
Great video and very thought provoking. Loved it a lot.
I've actually never felt this good of a person before, thank you
Is it weird that in the initial experiment, I would not think about the fact I wouldn’t know who I would be, the fact anyone would think that seems weird to me? I wouldn’t build the world based on how I would be effected at all. I’d build it thinking of how it would effect everyone but me. That’s just my natural way of thinking. The fact I would build it for my benefit seems completely alien to me.
You're so humble
I just want to build a better world. I don't want to have to take part in it.
Thank you, I was starting to wonder if it was just me that felt that way.
We struggle with what morality is and how we can be fair, because buried beneath of what we claim to be true or not is the confusion that exist on what we truly need. Individually speaking, We are mostly unsure of what our needs are. That is one of the reason we struggle to come to terms to how to really be fair, and what is morally true.
Inspiring. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you for this Video.
With the is-ought problem, instrumental convergence (various goals often sharing sub-goals) can probably be used to identify principles conducive to a myriad of goals. I doubt any specific set of principles would work for literally every goal, but there are probably sets of coherent principles for large classes of goals. Even if it doesn't lead to objective moral principles, people have goals (otherwise, a person would stop moving and not pursue anything while they waste away), so it would give human principles for pursuing their goals. We kind of already see this in ethics promoting achievement (valuing strength, nobility and power) and in moralities adverse to suffering (valuing meekness, humility and compassion).
All four of them should have been equally punished as harshly as the manslaughter charge.
You are just as much your Actions as you are your Intentions.
This really makes me examine my judgement of things
I feel that compassion and forgiveness creates more harm than good unless balanced by intelligence and cynicism or at least rudimentary pattern recognition.
I think a lot of harm can come from a person trying to care and help without totally understanding the situation or not thinking through the consequences to intervening.
When we help someone we rob them of the ability to help themselves.
Not really, nobody can be helped if they don't wish to help themselves first. Even if you are the one who wanted to help someone, the person you are helping must also accept your help in order to be helped. This can only take a second and yet this should be acknowledged.
What do you mean cynicism? What part does cynicism play in this?
You cannot be good or evil without other people, because it's not only their perception, but how your actions affect others that make you good or evil.
That being said, people overestimate how good they are perceived by others: If you think you go out of your way to make crazy sacrifices for other people without expecting anything in return, they may think you're a "decent person", at best.
And if you think you're maybe not a good person, they may think you're an absolute asshole, but they won't say it to your face.
I have a theory.
Everyone is the good guy in their own head.
Thank you very much for this video, it helped me to crystallize out my thoughts about it, albeit I know this is not the end, it never can be.
In the last few years, I have realized that I am unreasonably cruel to myself, in the sense that I only value myself for my achievements, but not for any of the work or struggles it took me to actually achieve them (or not achieve them). That I, at the very least, should not value myself merely by that, or by a moral system that only relies on action and that I could ultimately never choose. In the end, it is only myself that can judge my own decisions to the most accurate. And there won't ever be a definite end to it, as the basis is purely dependant on subjectivity. And that only then, when I myself accept this and decide stil tol act on my own subjective true morals, fully accepting them being my perceived subjectivity that is bound to me, only then I can really free myself.
"None has the right to judge my soul but me." ~ Precipice, V'NV Nation
also that Shopenhauer quote made me tear up... Thank you.
Treat yourself with kindness, for you are the companion that always remains by your own side, and value yourself for the person you are. May God be with you and may you live a fulfilling and happy life.
Hey, your viedo is too addictive and interesting in starting ( not talking about ad )
I was fascinated just wow ❤❤❤
In the words of the 12th Doctor:
“Hatred is always foolish. Love is always wise.”
The thing that has always struck me about the is/ought distinction is that morality, as with many cultural phenomena, can only exist when two or more people exist and interact (ignoring for the moment the (at least) moral-like behaviours that Frans de Waal points out in a great many species, including his favoured Chimps and Bonobos). If something relies on the perspective of two or more people to have any existence at all, it will always be subjective, by definition. So, you can speak about how it "is" - though this is also subjective - and about how it "ought" to be, by your own lights, and you might even be able to make a decent case by noting the preponderance of human preferences, but it will still be subjective.
Given this fact about morality, I'm not sure that I have a problem with affirming something axiomatic like the measure of the moral-ness of a given action being whether it adds to human flourishing or not.
That being said, I feel like we could co-opt something quite solipsistic to ground morality, and it takes us back to the Original Position and the fact that morality can only exist when two or more people interact. We end up with something somewhere between the Golden Rule and the Platinum Rule. The latter being from Karl Popper, and reads as 'Do unto others as they would have you do unto them.'
If we would want someone to treat us in a certain way, then it seems appropriate to treat them in that way until we discover that they do not want to be treated in that way. The reason this is ultimately appropriate is that we have no justification for us being treated differently, and such justification can be applied to them, so it's self-negating. This reminds me of the idea in counselling and psychology of Universal Positive Regard. If we treat others as ourselves and deviate from this only in line with their preferences (or discontinue contact if they would be treated in a way that we are not comfortable with), it seems like we could get a long way, but the basic underlying premise, nevertheless, is self-preservation.
I’ve often thought about this almost like a reincarnation style. One thing that worries me is that there are people who don’t commit atrocities simply because they believe someone is in the sky watching them and will judge them when they die on where they will spend eternity. Yet it also comforts me knowing it’s that belief of being watched that’s stopping them from doing bad stuff
Without God, objectively speaking, nothing matters. There is no good or bad.
There are also people go out and harm others because they because they believe some Sky Folk™want them to, or so they're told. Even then, I would imagine some do it because they feel its the "right" thing, even if they may individualistically disagree -- and others will gladly do it because they just want to and are opportunists, those folks that have become so afraid that they lust for power and control... or maybe never were disabused from power and control early on and any accountability is just relatively that painful to them.
@@rycona9878 But that number pales in comparison to the amount of people that hurt others because they believe we are just animals and ultimately nothing matters.
no one is a good person, we just know how to get along
The scariest person is the person who thinks themselves a "good" person. The number of atrocities that have been committed by "good" people are numberless. They will always tell themselves that whatever they do is "good" and anyone else that does otherwise is "evil."
What's fun is not only the acceptance of the destructive and impulsive human, but accepting it at a young enough age for you to become angry and exhausted with the modern explosion of mindfulness when you have naturally existed in it's simplicity for most of your life and have been well acquainted with it's absence within People.
It's that very mindfulness that has stopped some from pushing to be successful within the misery machine of opportunity cost and prideful apathy that has been so desperately and ironically calling for it.
You can't stop a generation-crossing landslide of willfully violent ignorance but you can watch it from a distance as it destroys everything.
stay safe out there if you can even get a grip of yourselves
Great stuff! My favorite Einstein quote. I am also reminded of Galen Strawson's Basic Argument Against Moral Responsibility. And wanted to recommend some reading: A Foolish Consistency: Keeping Determinism Out Of The Law by Michele Cotton. Most justice systems do rely on a presumption of free-will and the ability to tell right from wrong as a deontological fact. This is called mens rea or a guilty mind, and is all kinds of messy, especially since the introduction of the insanity defense.
I would like to offer a solution to the is-ought problem as well. Viewed from a God's Eye perspective, human consciousness is all about giving subjective quality to the objective universe. Thus it is our task to 'glorify' the interplay between subject and object. If we take as fact that the universe absent subjective experience is devoid of quality, or qualia, and consciousness is an objective property of the dialectic of manifest thingness.
I like it
Totally agree. This video is truly tragic … if you’ve never heard of Descartes. There is a snuck in ought in reality. We think therefore we exist. Sprinkle in a Kierkegaard leap of faith that we aren’t being lied too/tortured by an evil demon and boom, we know we exist and should improve our own wellbeing. Through rational analysis of the world we can further deduce that cooperation and mutual wellbeing provides the best results. Society works best when everyone is happy about society!
I'm so glad this channel exists
This is pretty difficult to think about when your mom told you since you were a little child that you're a good person and that you're not capable of being bad, and the I have problems when I do something bad I find myself trying to convinving myself that mom didn't lie to me, feeling guilty because I'm not like mom thinks I am, and then start doing good things to keep her happy with my behavior
There's no good without bad. Our 'goodness' is often contrasted by our ability to be 'bad', yet, two sides same coin. Or maybe no coin
Which is why you make it so the coin always lands on good.
I disagree with many of the hypothesis's listed. The basis of us all is our ability to choose. Knowing the consequences of actions and acting accordingly. In the bar fight... there never had to be a fight. When Larry or Tom chose to throw that first punch, they had already lost. This is what makes us all equal. We choose who we want to be. We as humans are not controlled by our emotions, but are guided by them.
Love the way you talk :)
Amazing video, great new insights.
Im an addict and when my addiction is in its active stage I can do bad things, or at least things I view as bad. When Im sober I feel so much guilt and hate towards myself that it causes me to self-hrm or attempt worse things to my life. To feel some kind of relief from guilt Im drawn to drugs. And it goes on and on...But I'll always try to be an 'open' person and have empathy for others - as long as my brain is able to do that...
I’ve been there you’re not alone
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You are doing better than many. Self-awareness and reflection is the first step toward healing.
@@jacobmonks3722 thank you, you are so kind. I think having hope that it's going to get better - it's so important. And having a wonderful support system❤️
Isn't the ego-death that is experienced during psychedelic trips such as DMT or magic mushrooms is at the very least incredibly close to the idea of the original position? Although such experiences upon "return" are always integrated within a worldview and knowledge that an individual person posses, it is often reported to bring out the idea of an eternal unity with everyone and everything which in turn helps people to realize among other things how unjustly many people are treated in our world.
Curious to hear your thoughts.
When you "return" your ego is reborn every time you experience ego death, but don't actually die, so that means if we call it ego "death" it must be reborn esch time we come from the trip as well.
I've experienced psychedelics many times and it's exactly like you said.
I always belive that good and bad are not mutually exclusive, everyone has a mix of both.
I'm aware of the darkness that dwells within me no matter how much light I have. My kindness is offsetted by a hidden malice I would feel to those that are deserving. It's how I know myself and avoid delusion, to know when I do something wrong and manage the darkness that dwells inside.
All I have to do is remember the Yin-Yang symbol.
I always thought that the most things I did were things 'good people' do, such as: letting people decide things, helping people out, forgiving for their mistakes. And eventually I learned there will be some people who don't think that way. People who are honest no matter the feelings of others. I thought, why can't you just let things slide or lie for the good of others, don't you have any sympathy. Eventually my sister told me, are you doing things a good person will do, because you actually want to help them and feel sympathy or rather you do it because you want people to see you as a 'good person'. That's when I noticed I cared more about my reputation than the feelings of others. I doubted and began to hate myself, because of the person who I was. Someone who wants to pay for others consumption and be kind to them just for his own benefit. What a disgrace. Then a friend told me: 'doesn't the fact that doubting if you are a good or bad person, makes you instantly a good person? Because if you were so evil as you say you are, you wouldn't have doubted in the beginning right. Everyone got some evil in him/her. It's about the impact you have on the world and your environment that decides if you are a good person or not.' So what i've learned is. If you follow what you think is right, It will turn out right ❤
I often wonder why people can't intuitively understand the idea of luck without academics rigorously classifying, documenting, and presenting the inherent unfairness in our society.
Egos make simple things complicated I guess.
Maybe because luck is retrospective and result based. And results comes from different factors or weightage that in part/whole of such factors can be accounted for probabilities only limited by information on infinite scale, which we can't reach. So it's like a progressive approach based off on a fundamental limitation/flaw. IMO at least...
A good self reflection video for those who never really did.
For my part i asked this question to myself already on a young age until to this day, everytime when something happend in my life so heavy that it could change my way being a personality.
First of i dont believe in the principles of good or bad. Its just simple a different way of seeing things.
And i,m also not religious, more into naturalism, so i am unbiased by that point.
And i came to the conclusion if you would compare my personality and they way i handle things and think about them, to how society wants me to be, then i would be possibly seen as bad.
But if you would compare my personality, to the rational and thinking folk of this planet/race called humanity, then i would propably seen as good as a person in my situation could be.
Being a good person is an ongoing learning process. Learning about ourselves and others. Understanding that we are just one of several billion individuals and although many of us are alike, we’re all unique individuals.
Being a good person is also a responsibility and necessary part of our emotional, spiritual and physical well being that can affect and alter the outcome and future of mankind.
Never assume you’re a good person or your intentions were good, but just as important, never allow others to judge you based on their motives and manipulative actions.
No one is even any more “good” or “bad” than society says he is - concepts like “morality” are just social constructs.
cant wait to hate myself after this new vid
Interesting paradox: someone with a mental illness is held less liable than someone without one when committing the same crime, however it could be that a mental health illness had just not been discovered for the person who was deemed not to have one.
Yes, no one should be held responsible .
It's not really a paradox as much as it is a thought experiment on how our understanding of human behavior progresses (or maybe regresses). We might be so sure that we are correct in saying, doing, or believing something, only for the people who live 100 years later to be just as certain that those same things are evil or contentious.
That initial assumption is just flat out wrong. People with mental illness are very, very rarely held less liable than someone without one when committing the same crime. In fact, from statistical findings, individuals with mental illness are *more likely* to end up prison overall, and often times mental illness is used as a condemnation for killers, often being referred to as "sick" or "psychopathic". Mental illness is often in fact conflated *with criminality,* not the other way around. How often do horror movies portray the mentally unwell as villains? How often is mental illness used to condemn or spread fear of those people?
The fact that I sometimes think that i might be a good guy makes me feel i am not because i am thinking about me in such a way!!
Hope you guys can understand what i meant.
A final factor I believe is awareness, and stubbornness, whether you are aware of yourself doing what is arguably wrong, and your willingness to change it